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Speaker 1: It's just sixteen minutes away from ten o'clock and it

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Speaker 1: is being reported today by Sky News that police have

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Speaker 1: launched an investigation into allegations of misconduct within the Northern

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Speaker 1: Territories Anti corruption watchdog. Now joining me on the line

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Speaker 1: right now is Sky News, Well, Northern Territory correspondent or

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Speaker 1: news chief. I'm not sure exactly what your title is,

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Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. Have we got you Matt Cunningham? Are you

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Speaker 2: there all right? We're having some technical issues there.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if we are able to get Mash on

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Speaker 1: the line. I'm not one hundred percent sure what's going on, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Can you hear us?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I seem to be having some technical issues at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't have Matt Cunningham for some reason. Some tech

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Speaker 1: issues there. So we'll see what we can do and

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Speaker 1: if we are able to get mass back on the

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Speaker 1: line and we'll go to him in just a couple

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Speaker 1: of moments. But yes, from what is being reported, what

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Speaker 1: we can see is it have launched an investigation into

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Speaker 1: allegations of misconduct within the Northern Territori's anti corruption watchdog.

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Speaker 1: That is what Matt Cunningham from Sky News is reporting,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see if we can get Matt back on

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Speaker 1: the line and find out exactly what the situation is

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Speaker 1: with this investigation. In the meantime, a few messages coming

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Speaker 1: through this morning. I've got one here from Peter and

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Speaker 1: it says, good morning three six years Barnaby Joyce in

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Speaker 1: isolation in the USA. If you know anyone in the

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Speaker 1: government there, can you ask to make it permanent, says Peter.

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Speaker 3: One here from I'm not too sure who this one

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Speaker 3: is from, but it says that Big w Woolworth's and

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Speaker 3: Cole's and probably others have now installed electronic manual check

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Speaker 3: in and remove the pen and paper version.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for making us aware of that.

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Speaker 1: I hopefully have Matt Cunningham on the line. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Good good mate. I've got you now, Matt Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: What is we I'm obviously just seeing that Sky News

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Speaker 1: that you are reporting that. Well, we've got a situation

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Speaker 1: where Northern Territory police are investigating or have launched an

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Speaker 1: investigation into the Northern Territories ICAC.

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Speaker 4: That's right now. I've been able to confirm that there's

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Speaker 4: a police operation. It's been code named Operation. It's being

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Speaker 4: run by the Special References Unit of the Anti Police, which,

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Speaker 4: of course, as we know, is that special Unit Katie

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Speaker 4: that looks into things such as conflicts of interest and

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Speaker 4: allegations of corruption. Now it's investigating allegations of his conduct,

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Speaker 4: historical allegations of his conduct that should be pointed out

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Speaker 4: within the Office of the Independent Commissioner against Corruption. Now

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Speaker 4: these allegations predate the appointment of the current Commissioner, Michael Witches.

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Speaker 4: They relate to people who are no longer working at

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Speaker 4: the Northern Territory i CAP. But I have confirmed that

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Speaker 4: the Special References the Unit have taken detailed witness statements

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Speaker 4: in relation to this investigation, including statements from former staff members. Now,

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Speaker 4: as we reported before, there was that issue Katie where

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Speaker 4: there was an almost out Australian police officer by the

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Speaker 4: name of David mcinlay his award of investigation contracts at

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Speaker 4: the office of the IKAK. Now he's the facto partner.

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Speaker 4: Kate Kelly at the time was the Director of Investigation.

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Speaker 4: Now my understanding is that that's one of the things

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Speaker 4: that's been investigated. There's no suggestion of any wrongdoing. In fact,

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Speaker 4: we probably should point out that the KAQ Inspector actually

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Speaker 4: investigated this issue and he's found he actually dismissed a

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Speaker 4: complain about this. But what we do know is that

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Speaker 4: the police are now investigating that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, goodness, may I mean it is? It does sound

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Speaker 1: pretty serious. I don't know that anybody would have expected

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Speaker 1: So it does sound as though it's a pretty serious situation.

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Speaker 4: Here, that's right. And we've got a statement from the

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Speaker 4: Order Territory Police confirming that they confirmed that they are

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Speaker 4: investigating an historical matter in relation to the Office of

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Speaker 4: the Independent Commissioner against Corruption. They said they couldn't provide

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Speaker 4: any more details because of that investigation is ongoing now.

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Speaker 4: I also went to the ICACH for comment. I just

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Speaker 4: point out that I tried to contact David McKinlay and

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Speaker 4: Kate Kelly. They didn't return calls yesterday and haven't responded

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Speaker 4: to messages asking for comment in relation to this matter.

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Speaker 4: When I went to the ICACK, Michael rich has actually

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Speaker 4: pointed me to a statement that he put out a

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Speaker 4: couple of months ago, basically saying that the ka will

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Speaker 4: cooperate with any investigation into its office, but it's inappropriate

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Speaker 4: for the IKAC to comment on any of those matters

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Speaker 4: in relation to allegations or investigations into its staff, as

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Speaker 4: he says, he wouldn't comment on investigations that the IKAK

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Speaker 4: was undertaking undertaking. So yeah, it's all. It's all the

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Speaker 4: pretty serious business. But it's probably not a hell of

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Speaker 4: a lot more we can say at the moment other

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Speaker 4: than police have concerned. But that investigation is happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was going to say, Matt, I wonder

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Speaker 1: if we ever will really know a huge amount more

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Speaker 1: detailed than what we've got today.

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Speaker 4: Well, I suppose that will depend on where this investigation

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Speaker 4: ends up at Katie and the special references inducting this investigation.

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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes these investigations can take many months, so

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Speaker 4: you know, we may not know for some time where

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Speaker 4: this all ends up, but certainly it's something that's being

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Matt Cunningham, A busy week for you, mate.

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Speaker 4: It has seen, Yes, and I think we can get

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Speaker 4: an out the Chief Minister in the next hour and

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Speaker 4: a half in relations to what we can can't do.

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Speaker 4: Come the twentieth of December, tating and also an interesting

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Speaker 4: challenge in the Supreme Court today when it comes to

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Speaker 4: the vaccine mandates.

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Speaker 2: So I did see that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I hope you to quietly wind out for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. No, I had just seen that.

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Speaker 1: So Mario Service, the president of the United NT Business Incorporated,

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Speaker 1: they have just issued a statement saying that today they

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Speaker 1: are today commencing action in the NT Supreme Court to

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Speaker 1: declare the mandatory vaccination directions of the Northern Territory CHOW unlawful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be interesting. You have noticed that

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Speaker 4: there's been some decisions. I think last week there was

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Speaker 4: a decision in relation to the vaccine mandate of one

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Speaker 4: of the mining companies. Maybe it would the HT but

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Speaker 4: I could be wrong that the founder of the vaccine

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Speaker 4: mandate couldn't be implemented. So it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 4: where this one goes. Katie. It's certainly an issue that's

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Speaker 4: created plenty of controversy in the top end over the

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Speaker 4: past month or so. Yeah, it was Supreme Court today.

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Speaker 2: It most certainly has.

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Speaker 1: And Matt Cunningham, we've had to move the week that

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Speaker 1: was tomorrow, first time ever in the history of the

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Speaker 1: week that was it's happening at ten o'clock because literally

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Speaker 1: everybody has to be at a school.

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Speaker 5: Assembly almost almost Matt, good on you mate.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again very soon. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: keeping us up to date with that story. In relation

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Speaker 1: to the Ikak