1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nason changing the date of Australia Day. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I've been giving a lot of thought to this over 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: the years, and this time of year for me is 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: when I first started in radio. I remember flying into 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Karatha on Australia Day and the big discussion on the 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: radio at that time was because the Australia Day long 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: weekend used to be a thing that just happened on 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: the weekend. And then people were blowing up because oh 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: what happens if it comes on a Tuesday or a 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday. It's going to ruin my public holiday. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: So by and large it just seemed to be people. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: All they were concerned about was the long weekend, and 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: then in ninety four when it became on the twenty six, 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: even then people used to complain about it. Now at 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: a point and this is what I find for me, 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: being a white Australian of convict ilk, I do feel 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: that the day has to change. I feel as I've 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: become more educated about it. And I was thinking about 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: this yesterday and I was at an Australiaanna Cronulla yesterday. 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: The vibe was so great, everyone was into it. 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: But then I started just thinking about it, I thought, 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, if I had a mate and he was 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with something that I was doing, then. 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: I'd go, yeah, fair enough. 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: And so when you really look at it, when you 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: look at what Australia day is about. So and most 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: people where you say, well, what do you know about 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: Australia as far as who came here? 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: And I just asked people and they go, what was 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: when Captain Cook? 31 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Well, no, Captain Cook came in seventeen seventy April twenty nine. 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: Then eighteen years later, Governor Philip comes. 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: To Australia in eighteen eighty eight January twenty sixth had 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: the French circling around when Captain Cook was outside in 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Port Botany. So there was a time where we could 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: have been colonized by the French or the Spanish. 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: It was just all the Dutch way either way. But 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: either way. 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Someone Caginning is the beginning of a white settlement. So 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: many years it was assumed that that's what we celebrate, 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: with out the thought as to what that means for 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: our First nation people. I like what Craig Foster wrote yesterday. 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: I saw this on Twitter. 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: I stand with First Nations people today marks the moment 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: their sovereignty was denied, their humanity discounted, and their culture desecrated. 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: Changing our celebratory day is just one small part of 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: building a stronger nation on foundations of truth, equality and unity. 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: As you say, Brennan, if your friend is not happy, 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: is suffering that day, it's no skin off our nose 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: to make it another day. I'd love to be able 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: to say to proudly celebrate Australia Day on a day 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: where everyone can celebrate. And I don't feel that this 53 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: date is that, and. 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: It's so fair enough. It's just fair enough. And you 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: look at the days. I was just looking at this 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: chart here, it's quite extraordinary. So in the forties they 57 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: had this survey about how do you feel about not 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: celebrating Australia on the twenty sixth of January and you're 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: looking at this chart. In the forties the majority said no, 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: it should stay where it is. But where we are now, 61 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: how were the millennials. The millennials have taken it across, 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: so it's over fifty percent. So it's the young people. 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: So what this says to me, the day will change. 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: It has to. 65 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: I think yesterday was that we were sitting in an 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: uncomfortable moment. You didn't know whether to wish people are 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: happy Australia to day. We were in that awkward moment 68 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: where I think we're transitioning into changing the day. That's 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: how I feel, but how do you feel? Lots of 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: people still want it on January twenty sixth, and that's 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: what the pub test is. We want to hear how 72 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: you're feeling.