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Speaker 2: Got anything good?

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell show podcast. Let's get

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Speaker 1: into this weeks What are the odds? Let's go believe

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Speaker 3: What are the odds?

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Speaker 1: You gotta be justhing me.

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Speaker 2: Like we were you with Cheryl who married a Hun?

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Speaker 4: Who wor was weird?

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Speaker 1: The Cheryl married a Hunt as well? Previously on What

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Speaker 1: Are the Odds?

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Speaker 5: Ten years ago, I decided to take my little child

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Speaker 5: to the Grampians who were splicing around in the Little

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Speaker 5: Pools area, and my son lost his dummy. Last weekend

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Speaker 5: we actually went back to the same fools with another

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Speaker 6: I have three brothers, Peter, Greg and Shane. My ex

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Speaker 6: I'm looking for it Greg.

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Speaker 3: I moved to Australia from New Zealand and I had

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Speaker 1: Sure, all right, mape that old chest snap another first

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Speaker 1: on the police. I've heard that, little cutie. What are

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Speaker 1: the odds? Team? What are the odds? The odds line

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Speaker 1: is open right now. Thirteen fifty five, twenty two. This

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Speaker 4: Christiana.

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Speaker 1: What my home? Twenty two years ago? Last Friday, my

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Speaker 4: Christian. There was a plastic bag in the hole.

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Speaker 1: He continued to carefully dig and retrieved an intact, black,

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Speaker 4: It was heavy. Oh, whatever was in it.

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Speaker 1: We brought it inside with thinking is this cash, valiables,

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Speaker 4: It was the body of another dog. Ah buried there?

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Speaker 4: Christian? I dug up somebody else's small dog.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's cat. We didn't have time to examine the remains,

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Speaker 1: so we dug another hole extra deep, three feet down

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Speaker 4: They're playing together.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're reunited.

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Speaker 1: The souls are back together beautiful anyway. Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: I recently got back from a road trip around your

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Speaker 1: In the You need to find the word that is phenomenonon.

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Speaker 1: You've cursed me because I said, what about if you

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Speaker 4: Are you wedding?

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Speaker 1: You're throwing up. I can't say phenomenon, phenomenon, phenomenon, phenomenon.

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Speaker 4: That's a journalist. It's a phenomenon. No, No, you're not

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Speaker 4: saying it wrong. What do you know the word?

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Speaker 4: It a video.

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Speaker 6: Can you do it edited?

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Speaker 1: You nailed it.

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Speaker 1: A mash up? Perhaps? Can you tell me that you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cuttle guys, I believe it all right. The odds

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Speaker 1: O'Connell show podcast. We do this every Wednesday. We call

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Speaker 1: it what are the odds? You can call me? Thirteen

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Speaker 4: Ruth? Good morning, Ruth, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Oh, good morning, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good?

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. You give us a call with

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Speaker 7: I've been married to my husband twenty five years. My

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Speaker 7: another Ruth Angela. How many times do you meet Ruth Angela?

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Speaker 7: Lit alone? Marry them? He begame with an if for

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Speaker 7: I'm the second rat Rat.

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Speaker 1: That's were you the love rat? Ye? All right, Ruth,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for going us skill my have

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Speaker 1: a good day.

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Speaker 1: Bye, Liz, come on and Liz, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Thank you for having me my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Now, Liz, what is your story? What are.

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Speaker 2: What are theys?

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Speaker 1: You got? My friend?

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Speaker 2: Fourteen years ago, I had my beautiful daughter and sadly

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Speaker 2: She said to me, you're the lady that was sitting

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if I heard I remember thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: was a lovely chat to you Liz as well. Thanks

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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