1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Get a. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, and professional oversharer. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: about their. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Highs as well as they're lows, all. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: In a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello, 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Welcome three of the Fertility Podcast. This episode was recorded 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: the day before I went in for the egg collection procedure. 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk needles, scans, blood tests, how 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: my procedure and timeline and even my medicines got changed 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: around because our concern came up. 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: So we tell you all. 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: We tell you our numbers, as we tell you where 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: we're at. We talk about tests. 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Loads of stuff. Hope you learn loads from this. 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: I learned loads through going through it, so I'm hoping 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: by sharing it you can. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Learn from it too. 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Fertility Special Potto with Bossachenko. 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Hello AKA Matt. 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: Sofo, Hello, thanks having me back aka my boyfriend, partner, partner, longtime, 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: good time pal, good time. 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Pal, rotten soldier. Oh yeah, lover. 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: Ah soul mate ah sexy times friend Ah even better. Okay, 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: So in this episode, as you know, doing a fertility special, 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: and in this episode, we are recording this the day 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: before the procedure or the egg collection, egg retrieval, whatever 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: you want to call it. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: So what we're going. 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: To share with you in this episode is the last 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: twelve days, so effectively the period of time where I've 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: been injecting every single day. And then I'm going to 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: walk you through the procedure and what it's involved for 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: our case. So it's different for different doctors prefer different procedures. 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: So let's start. How do you feel bossed? Because you 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: have been my coach, my cheerleader throughout all this. 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: How do I feel? Oh? I feel good in general. 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: Definitely is quite a full on process. Yeah, but no, 41 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty good. I'm pretty excited about it. It's 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: just a lot. It's just a lot to do, like everyday, 43 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: you know, different things, injections, supporting, setting my alarm, supporting you, 44 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: making sure you feel okay. And yeah, I mean I've 45 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: got probably the easiest job in the whole thing. 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have to do? I just got 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: to jerk off? 48 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: He does literally. Also, the nurses called because the retrievals tomorrow. 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: The nurses called two days ago and we're like, can 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: Matt please ejaculate today. 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: And then abstain from it ejaculating for three days? 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the magic window was like, you want to have 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: not jerked off for my last I jerked off for 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: two to five days. That's kind of and so you'll 55 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: be at bang on three. Yeah, so that was fun. 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: They want you to get one out and then they 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: want you to hold it for three days. 58 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: So it's like the best quality and delicious, still spermos delicious. 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about the injections. 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: So we went and had a training day with the nurse, 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: which I broke down in and cried, didn't I a 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: little bit? 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Well, there's been a couple of crying. 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's an emotional thing. You're about to start 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: injecting yourself, like understandable. 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: So basically, for our case, and remember everybody's case is different, 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: the doctor sends through what they call a stem plan, 68 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: So that's where they're stimulating the creation of like follicle 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: stimulating hormone I think is the first one, and so 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: you're creating all these extra follicles hopefully with eggs inside them. 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: And that's what we have been on for the last 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: We're day twelve today, right, so the collection is tomorrow, 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: day thirteen. Now our collection date has changed, our plan 74 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: has changed a little bit. So I'm going to share 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: everything so that if you're ever in this situation, don't 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: be afraid when things change, because I think that that 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: scared me a little bit, the change. 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Yes, it did so, but it's a good thing. 79 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: It starts off with you call them when you get 80 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: your period, right, so you've already picked up your mads, 81 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: you've done your training. 82 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: You call them and if. 83 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: You get your period before midday, they count that as 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: day one of your period. I got mine like two 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: pm or two thirty pm on a Friday, and they're like, right, 86 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: we're counting Saturday as day one, and the injection started 87 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: for me on day two of their count so it 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: would have felt like day three of my period for 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: my brain, but for the way they like to count. 90 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: And you're working in Queensland time too, because the clinic 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: we go to is Queensland and we're on New South 92 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: Walest So then day two for us was the Sunday 93 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: and you get up in the morning, and we decided 94 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: eight am was a good time, so I wasn't waking 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: you up too early, and I just started injecting myself 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: on that first day and add that first injection, the 97 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: follicle stimulating one. 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: It's not too bad. 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: It's it's like an it's like feels like a pen 100 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: and you wind it to the gauge to the dosage 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: and then it's a really skinny needle. I imagine it's what 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: if diabetics had to inject insulin. I imagine it's a similar 103 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: like it's a really tiny no pain, didn't use numbing cream, 104 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: just made try to lean over and had a really 105 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: nice hunk of fat. Basically, I've got a nice little 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: pocket here, now, don't I. Yes, So you do that 107 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: till day five, but it's really four days being drenting. 108 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: And then what happens is the next day you'll get 109 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: a call from the nurse and you add in this 110 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: second medicine. And this second medicine is time down to 111 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: the minute in our case, right, And so we did 112 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: that at eighth three every morning, and that is an 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: antagonist that stops you from ovulating, and you keep doing 114 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: the other one pen one and then you chuck in 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: this other one that's basically stopping the body opulating but 116 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: still allowing you to make all these extra follicles, right, 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: So you do that, and then at day ten you 118 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: have a blood test, so they want to check estrogen levels, 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: and that's an urgent blood test. So you get up 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: in the morning, you go straight get your bloods done, 121 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: and then you head to the doctor in the arbow 122 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: in my case, and you do a scam. And when 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: people say a scan, what does that involve us? 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: An internal scan ultrasound. So it's the same thing. It's there. 125 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: It's a skinny deal doo with loads of lube up 126 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: your vagina to put it up here. 127 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't go that far in how far? 128 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: Well? 129 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, how do you know I was watching? 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I watched the first one. 131 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: So the first one was a walk in the park, 132 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: pizza cake. But remember this second one. 133 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: You've been growing. 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: Your it's over easy expand to the size of grapefruit. 135 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: So when it goes in the second time, you're like, oh, 136 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: it's just pressure. 137 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Ye, It's not like needle pain. 138 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: It's more just like this feels uncomfortable and you kind 139 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: of want it out basically, and especially when they're jabbing 140 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: the right and the left side and trying to get 141 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: a good look. So we had our first scan and 142 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: blood test a few days ago and I was the 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: doctor like told me what to expect, so he's trying 144 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: to manage my expectations. He was like, we're going to 145 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: go for five follicles. That's our goal, right, and in 146 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: each follicle there's either one to two eggs as far 147 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: as I'm aware. And I was like, great, sounds good, 148 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: and he's like, I just want to manager expectations. We 149 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: get on the table and remember, boss, we're sharing everything 150 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: in this. We get on the table and he's like, oh, okay, 151 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: there's more here than what we expected. So we had 152 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: on when we had that first scan and blood twenty 153 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: two follicles, which is more than what he was kind 154 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: of aiming for. And it does put you in the 155 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: risk factor for something called hyperstimulation, which is actually really scary. 156 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: I had no idea how dangerous it was and life threatening. Yes, 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: So the doctor goes, let's just have a squeeze estrogen. 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: He's like, okay, it's really high. He goes, all right, 159 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: we're going to make need to make some changes. So 160 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: in a very short period time. Within about twenty minutes, 161 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: I had a call from after leaving the doctors literally 162 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: I left the doctor's procedure center where he was practicing. 163 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: I got in the car, and not five minutes later 164 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: the nurse from the clinic had called me and she goes, right, 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: your procedure day has been pulled forward and you cannot 166 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: use the current trigger that you have. It could send 167 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: you into this hyperstimulation, which is really scary and life threatening, 168 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: and I think it could throw off fluid balances and whatnot. 169 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: You can end up in hospital wick smart so naturally 170 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: from excess estrogen. 171 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I think, yes, yeah, okay, so I freaked out, 172 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: But you did had a little meltdown, had a little meltdown. 173 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: Mum was he for that too? She came to that scam. 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: So what we've had to do in the last twenty 175 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: four hours is pick up a new trigger. So that 176 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: the fun bit about that was that meant two injections 177 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: instead of one, didn't it? 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: Just yes, you did four injections yesterday. 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did made hormones in the morn or 180 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: the normal procedure stuff in the morning, the normal stuff, 181 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: and then it's time to gain down to the minute. 182 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: At ten pm last night we did the two triggers, 183 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: and then today is a free day, we don't do anything. 184 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning is the collection, so they time that down 185 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: to the time of your procedure. 186 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: Well done, thise, yes, well he's all over. Yes, he's 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: all over it. 188 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: So and that new trigger that they've given you prevents 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: your body from producing excess estrogen and prevents you from 190 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: randomly ovulating between now and the procedure. 191 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: And it will also mean that I can get all 192 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: the symptoms of hyper simulation, which is scary, but I 193 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: cannot die from it. 194 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically they've gotten on top of your hormone 195 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: levels with this new drug. 196 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So usually that's not what happens. 197 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Usually I would go in to still be doing the 198 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: hormones this morning even and I would be going in 199 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: for a blood test this morning where they'd be checking 200 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: both estrogen and progesterone. I think it's E two and 201 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: P four on the form. I've still got my forms, 202 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: and then i'd be going in this afternoon for another 203 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: scan to check where it's at. And when he saw 204 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: the scan on Monday, he was like, look, you're not 205 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: gonna have to come in for a scan. We're all set. 206 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: I don't worry, I'll be changing your treat planet pinch kind 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: of thing. And then it quickly when he saw my 208 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: estrogen levels, he was like, all right, all right, all right, 209 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to make sense forward. Yep, some changes. 210 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: So they pulled me forward. I've taken the triggers. We're 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: good to go, and we're set for tomorrow morning. 212 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are bright and early, right, And. 213 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: So I guess I just wanted to share the realness 214 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: of all of it with you, and the honest treats 215 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: I haven't put on Insta real time that we've been 216 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: going through this, because as great as it has been 217 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: to be sharing it on Insta, a lot of people 218 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: have been sending horror stories. And I fully understand that 219 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: everybody has a different experience. But I found that I 220 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: was getting a lot of anxiety and I was really worrying, 221 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: wasn't I to the point I had to book a 222 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: therapy session and just kind of like unpack. 223 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: It a little bit. 224 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: But Bosco, I want to know how you've found this 225 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: whole process. Like I've had two breakdowns. I've got angry 226 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: at you once I've got angry at mum once. Yeah, 227 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: what else I've cried in the last three days, I've 228 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: cried a bit. 229 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: Look, I think I came into the whole experience, like 230 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: knowing what I was about. Yeah, you know, experience and 231 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: what you're putting yourself through, and I kind of knew 232 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: that there will be emotions and there will be breakdowns 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: and will be moments where I want to pull my 234 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: fucking hair out. But I'm here to support and I'm 235 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: here to do a few And it's only a short 236 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: amount of time, it's only two weeks. 237 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: But your whole it becomes a full time job. It 238 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: becomes a full time job because. 239 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: You're having calls from the nurses, you're going in extra bloods. 240 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: Going in for and then you're waking me up in 241 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: the middle of the night to like talk and then 242 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: I have a little chat about how situation and you're 243 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: not feeling great. But yeah, as I said, I'm here 244 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: to support you. If anyone else's partner is going to 245 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: go through it, like yeah, there's you've got to be 246 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: on top of it every single day and need to 247 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: help help manage your partner's emotions. And some people might 248 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: be fully emotional and can't stop crying, and some people 249 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: might have friends say that yeah, of course, yeah, but I. 250 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 2: Do feel like I got a lot, especially from probably 251 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: day eighty or like a few days of doing that 252 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: kind of the antagonist that stops you ovulating. Yeah, by 253 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: eight I reckon the nights, but by the time I 254 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: go to bed, I'll be like, oh, my boobs are 255 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: so sore, and I feel bloated. 256 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: And also I was getting this like I had for 257 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: the last three days. 258 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: It's really light nausea, like super light nausea. And you 259 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: know when you're a bit you have that one too 260 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: many drinks and your skin goes tinging, had all that, 261 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: and I reckon that was the nurse said that that's 262 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: excess estrogen. 263 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: Would you say it's like a like a just like 264 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: a crazy period like feeling or like different. 265 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, I imagine it's more like morning sickness. 266 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking it will be like, because 267 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: you've got this like constant, like just sub level nausea, 268 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: but you don't throw it well, touchwater, haven't yet thrown up. 269 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Be fine now. 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: But I was saying to Matt just before, I feel 271 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: that feeling's gone today. Probably because I've taken the trigger 272 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 2: that has put a cap on the estrogen. 273 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: And it's been a good twelve hours since you've taken it, 274 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: So it's. 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: It's been exactly twelve hours since I've taken it, and 276 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: I just feel not sick anymore. But yesterday, like, we 277 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: went out and took my mat for a green smoothie 278 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: and I was like, I really want to get this 279 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: smoothie down because there's so much nourishment and goodness in it. 280 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I was like, am I going to be able to 281 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: keep it down? 282 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: I think I was having a bit of sympathy nausey yesterday. 283 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: It was I was like, why do I feel a 284 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: bit of low level nausea? He was? 285 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: He was, But yeah, I guess I just wanted to 286 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: share our experience because it wasn't the norm and it 287 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: did change at the last minute, like you will usually 288 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: do two bloods too. 289 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: I don't think there is a norm. I think that 290 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: everyone has a very specific and tailored plan to them totally. 291 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: But like I've got mates that have gone through a 292 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: number of times and you do get the two special 293 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: scan days and this what where the category that we're 294 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: in is like that risk of hyperstimulation, so that it 295 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: just means you've got and you've got to move quick. 296 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: So for us to pick up the new medicine, you've 297 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: got to drive an hour and a half to the 298 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: Goldie and back. 299 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: So your day go. 300 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: You lose that tomorrow the procedure Goldie again, Goldie, I'm 301 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: really next. That's that's just because we live in a 302 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: place where there's no. 303 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: Bar and bay. Yeah. 304 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Yes, and and even the doctor like as close as 305 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: he is, like it's still I'm lucky I didn't have 306 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: to drive to the Goldie for the scans. 307 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: But I'm actually nervous about the water fasting. So from 308 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: midnight tonight I. 309 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: Have to be fully fasted. Food and water. Food I 310 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: don't care about, but water like I love. I don't 311 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: like being parched. 312 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: Boy, I know I'm feeling thirsty right now. I know, 313 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: talking about it right that's my thing. 314 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: I think my brain's going to be like, oh, you're thirsty, 315 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: But I'm just going to brush my teeth, have a 316 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: good gargle, and then we'll be on the road, straight 317 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: to the. 318 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: Road, and you can wash your mouth out with some 319 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: water the whole kind of time. You'd be fine. I'll 320 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: take a body. They just don't want you to have 321 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: liquid and stuff in your stomach. 322 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so because if you get nauseous, you can 323 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: choke because you're laid you're like, yeah, kind of like 324 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: laying down. 325 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, such the same as like any kind 326 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: of procedure, Yeah, any kind of anesthetic. 327 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk procedure, because again I think a 328 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: lot of people go under a general anesthetic for this. 329 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: It is quite a quick procedure. I think it's ten 330 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes. But most people I've spoken to go 331 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: under general. Our doctor doesn't do that. So we will 332 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: be having two jabs of local in the vegina vagina 333 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: that'll drop a valium when I get there. I think 334 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: they've given me value when I get there. 335 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: I've never had one. 336 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: Before, but I've heard great things. You've had one, haven't here? 337 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dreck and old love it. 338 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. It feels great and relaxing. 339 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: And then they're going to put me on before I 340 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: even go into theater, the green Whistle, which is called Pentrocks. 341 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: Pentrocks, yeah, which is an Australian drug. 342 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: Funnily enough, and so this is basically an opioid free 343 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: opioid opioid opioid free painkiller that is regulated by your breath, 344 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: so you breathe it in and it lasts like twenty 345 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: six breaths. 346 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Bring one home too. 347 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: Mate, So they give you that before you even go 348 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: into the theater, and then you go into theater. Then 349 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: the local goes in and then you're just inhaling the 350 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: green whistle. But he's the doctor said, it shouldn't be 351 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: too much more discomfort than what I had the other 352 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: day with the. 353 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: You'll be so relaxed with the with the value in 354 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: the air. Yeah you are. I'm chicking. 355 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: So I think I'm one of those people that freaks 356 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: out in the lead up and then once I'm in 357 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 2: the situation, I just am like, well, I'm here, I 358 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: may as well just give over my control. So that 359 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: is where we're at, boss. And while I'm literally in 360 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: procedure because sperm doesn't last that long, you'll be in 361 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: another room jerking off. 362 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Correct. Correct? I think you've got a proper nice room. Yeah, 363 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I think. So, it's a nice clinic, so. 364 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: Hopefully bit of pawn. But the internet worked. They're fine, Yeah, 365 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: so you'll you'll be able to do And then I'm 366 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to talk about like post procedure. I've 367 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: got a full plan with my natural path acupuncturist, and 368 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: I've got so many supplements that they want me to 369 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: start literally the second we walk in the door after 370 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: the procedure tomorrow because of their risk of hyperstimulation. They 371 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: really want me on this stuff like as soon as 372 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 2: humanly possible to help flush it and get it completely 373 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: out of my body. So I'm kind of pumped for 374 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: that bit. Oh do you want to say the funny 375 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: thing when. 376 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: I have a nice big detox? Yeah, what'd you do? 377 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: What do you mean? What's the funny thing you did? Yes, 378 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: I did a funny thing. What In preparation for the procedure. 379 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: Oh Loela's a bit worried about who's going to see 380 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: her vagina tomorrow. 381 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: I've got a Brazilian guys. Nice, I'll be honest, that's 382 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: what I get. I get it, but I do get it. 383 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: But I just thought, Oh, I haven't had one since America. 384 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: That's true. I don't want to stragglers. You don't have 385 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: a hairy pussy. 386 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't want stragglers for when Yeah, I get it, 387 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: I get it. The docs down there handsome doctor. 388 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Might I say, I don't think he's really going to care. 389 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure no one is going to care. But also, 390 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: don't you want to clean working area, clean working envirol? 391 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, but he's not working on the outside, 392 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: he's working on the inside. 393 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've got to get pass the outside. 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: You would see some fucking hairy bushes for sure, do 395 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: you reckon? 396 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 397 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Well I just thought, you know, clean, clean work station. Yeah, 398 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: but I think they'll have it force up open like 399 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: with you the way when they do it. Perhaps mere 400 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: they kind of like open you up and then or no, 401 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: maybe not, It'll just need to get there. 402 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure, you know. So they'll be a 403 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: surprise for the team down there tomorrow, just impressing the 404 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: people at the clinic. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. 405 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: Didn't you I want to take a book to my doctor, 406 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: And you're like, boss, it's not a date. 407 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: It's not it's not you need to bring your doctor gifts. 408 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: Maybe after the procedure you can. 409 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then am I going to be off chops? 410 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Am I going to be high? Just bring them and 411 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: say this is little thank you. 412 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want to give the nurse something because 413 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: she has like talked me off the wage of freaking. 414 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: Out one, bring two books and then give them to 415 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: thanks boss. So that's our plan. Yep, that's where we're at. 416 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: We'll be doing an episode post procedure as well, and 417 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: we're really honest about it. 418 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: And also, just so you. 419 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: Know, if you heard us go, oh, we've got twenty 420 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: two follicles, that does not mean that we're going to 421 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: get twenty two viable eggs. 422 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: We don't know two are there on the day. 423 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: And then the embryos, because our priority is going to 424 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: be embryos. If for some miraculous reason there's leftovers and stuff, 425 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: we might get some eggs, but the goal is embryos. 426 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: And then they've got a they're going to be introduced 427 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: to your spermite seal a spermes and then they've got 428 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: to live for five days. So we've still got a 429 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: scary road ahead of us. So we're going to do 430 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: an episode post it all and tell you where we're at. Yes, 431 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: we're in like a nice possey that we've got quite 432 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: a few follicles, but you just don't know what's in them, 433 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: and we are in the risk factor. So they say 434 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: if you have more than fifteen follicles, then you're in 435 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: the risk factor and it's automatic. 436 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: You must switch over to this trigger. Yeap, okay, So 437 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: that's usport right. What's next on the Oh, we've got 438 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: questions to answer. Oh, let's answer these questions, you know. 439 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: I know. So I did a call out on Instagram. 440 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: I was just like, what do you want us to answer? 441 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: So at the end of each episode, we're just answering 442 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: some instat questions. Keen to know how you feel when 443 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: you're going through the process emotionally and physically. So someone said, 444 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 2: have I put weight on? 445 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've put weight on, but I 446 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: think it's no. I think you just maybe just more 447 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: bloated and maybe water weight if anything. 448 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: So I would disagree. 449 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: I have a one hundred percent pull weight on, but 450 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: I would say more from the pre leadup. So I 451 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: am someone that likes to intermit and fast. I am 452 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: seventy kilos right now, so that would be a seven 453 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: k kg increase over three months in the lap. So 454 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: I got back from America and I started working with 455 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: the Natural Path and I went on all these supplements 456 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: which we needed to go on, and I could not 457 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: into fast and keep them down basically, like because zinc 458 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: and things that kind. 459 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Of like upset you down. 460 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: So I spoke to the acupuncturist as well, and I 461 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: was like, what should I be having for brecky for this? 462 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: And she goes always warming foods because fertility is linked 463 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: to the kidneys, and she's like, so I started doing 464 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: oats in the morning, which I've been. 465 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I've nailed the porridge recipe. Yeah, it's great. 466 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: I love it so. 467 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: As great as that is my bod when I carbohydrates, 468 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: loves to hold a bit of extra weight. So I 469 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: just had to change my mindset to be like, this 470 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: is a fertility goal right now, and then when I 471 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: come out the other side, the goal will be health, 472 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: and then the goal after that if I want to 473 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: like get really fit and get lean and all that 474 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: kind of thing and feel like hel like my version 475 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: of where I like to be of health wise, well 476 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: then I can do that. But right now that's not 477 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: a priority. The priority is fertility. 478 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: And emotionally, I think you've been pretty good. Well. 479 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: Had a breakdown before we didn't had a break down 480 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: when the whole plan changed. I literally thought I was 481 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: going to die from hyperstimulation, and then I got angry 482 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: once at you and angry once at mom. Yeah, and 483 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: I think it was from me being a bit oversensitive, 484 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: probably getting cold, a bit selfish, wasn't it. 485 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I think yeah. I think everyone's experience is obviously different. 486 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, you've been pretty good, I would say. 487 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, okay, okay, and I haven't been doing too 488 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: much social stuff a little bit. Like we saw I 489 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: mate Charlie speak the other day. It's fine, but I 490 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: haven't been in my social okay. Next question, if IVF 491 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: doesn't work out later on, hopefully it does, would you 492 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: use donor eggs or even adopt Yeah, yeah, I think so. 493 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 494 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: We're trying to get these eggs and embryos young though, 495 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: and we've also done all the testing. I think we've 496 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: done about twenty three different tests yea to check the 497 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 2: genetics of us as well, so that that should prevent us, hopefully. 498 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: To carry a testing. 499 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so have there's something if anyone is going 500 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: to do it or there at the start of their journey, 501 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: ask for carrier type test straight away, because that's going. 502 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: With the genetics of and it takes ages. It takes 503 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: between eight and twelve weeks get results. So we've done 504 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 2: the test. We haven't got the results now, but we 505 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: will very very soon. But we got even before that. 506 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 2: We got a polethora of test done even before that. 507 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: And then for the first specialists which we didn't go with. 508 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: The second specialist was like, I still want you to 509 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: carry a type regardless in case, because there's different states 510 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: have different mandated rules and some states say, yeah, you 511 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: have to do that. Like someone wrote to me and 512 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: said in Western Australia you can't freeze embryos and the eggs. Yeah, 513 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: only like if you're socially infertile, you can only do 514 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 2: it if you're medically infertile. 515 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: How crazy? 516 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: So I think different states have different rules and different 517 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: states have different costs. Interesting, do they give you a 518 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: timeframe to use your embryos. 519 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: By don't know that answer? Is it? Ten years? Yes? 520 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: They do and ten years We signed an agreement ten years, 521 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: So I mean I think we'd be using them within 522 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: five to seven yeah, five to eight probably someone threatening 523 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: good on you. Do they provide counseling rehealth risks for 524 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 2: mums in pregnancy in their forties? So I think we 525 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: touched on this last last time we chatted. But the 526 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: health risks come when you fall pregnant naturally in your forties, 527 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: and we're trying to prevent that by having these younger 528 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: embryos in my older forty three, forty four to forty 529 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: five year old body. And so if we did pregnancy naturally, 530 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: there would be loads of health risks, right, miscarriage, high 531 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: blood pressure, also for the bambino, I think downs. 532 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: There are different things, different risk factors. 533 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, and they really older embryos. 534 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, with older eggs especially and in an older body. 535 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: So what we're. 536 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: Doing is getting the younger embryos putting them in my 537 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: older body, so that should mitigate. Is that the word 538 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: I'm looking for some of these health roocent people are 539 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: talking about. 540 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: But counseling, I'm not sure. I'm sure there is. I'm 541 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: sure it is available. 542 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: On the client portal that we're on. Counseling is I 543 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: think it's. 544 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: We don't. We haven't had to do it. 545 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: But we also told our doctor we've both got therapists 546 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 2: in that initial consult and it was really interesting. What 547 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: I loved about our doctor is he goes in that 548 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: initial console, He's like, what have you had history of 549 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: and we both said mental health and I said me 550 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: specifically eating disorders, and he goes, just talk to me 551 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: what happens when that crops up? And he spent a 552 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: bit of time like checking that with me, and he's like, 553 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: do you have a mechanism? 554 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: Like what do you do? If I said I've got 555 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: a therapist like blah blah blah. But he was amazing. 556 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so the next question is are you doing preconception 557 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: care before you freeze? 558 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: What does that mean? It's like, yeah, yeah, of course absolutely. 559 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: So I got back to Australia on September first, and 560 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: I had my first consult with the Natural Pathway is like. 561 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: I think within two days. 562 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: I think I got back on Saturday and my consult 563 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: was on Monday and we ordered the supplements that day. 564 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: She did get us to do a flush before the 565 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: bloods were done, so we were probably a bit las 566 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: with that the first kind of like two weeks until 567 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: we got the bloods done and then we were like 568 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: pretty hard. Gung Ho didn't miss a day. I was 569 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: also doing like so as much extra stuff as I could. 570 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: I did slow my exercise down accidentally in the lead up, 571 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: just because I had that thing cut out of my legs. 572 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: So my exercise is definitely definitely. We're just we're doing 573 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: like we've been doing gentle beach walks. 574 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've been taking heaps of stuff as well. 575 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: Maps on stuff too, so there's stuff that your partner 576 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: can take as well. 577 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's it. Have I missed one that was four 578 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: or five? 579 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, we've yeah, we've done them all. Boy, Oh, 580 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: we've done them all. So feel free to write to 581 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: us and if you've got questions. My goal is to 582 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: like help people feel less lonely and scared, and we 583 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: just want to be really honest about our experience and 584 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: and you know what it's been like. So fingers and 585 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: toes crossed. It all goes swimmingly well. And thank you 586 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: for being such a big supporter. Do you, sir always 587 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: do you want to add anything? I feel like I've 588 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: just been gas back. 589 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think I'm yeah. 590 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: Just you know, if your partner's going through it, just 591 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: be therefore be there for them and. 592 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: In the lead out with them, and in the lead 593 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: up of thousand percent book therapy. 594 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: So I had my therapy. 595 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there and the acupuncture has been great too, 596 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: they did. I had acupuncture booked for yesterday and they said, 597 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: the nurses like, please cancel it because your body needs 598 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: to just stay calm. And that's when I start like, yeah, 599 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: like I said that last couple of days I felt 600 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: really off, whereas today, probably because that stopped the estrogen, 601 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: I just feel a little bit. 602 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: We'll get back to it next week. Nice little detox, 603 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: get the health back to nice sort of baseline. 604 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: I also asked the doctor how sooner because I've got 605 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: a work trip in Melbourne, And I said, how soon 606 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: am I allowed to travel? 607 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: You know? 608 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: And I've got a flight in two weeks after pretty 609 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: journey because. 610 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: You'll be fine, you'd be so fine. Yeah, So that's interesting, Boss, 611 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: You've done so well. I'm very proud of you and 612 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: growing all these little eggies. 613 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: Oh thanks, Boss has did a little chat to them 614 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: this morning we got up. 615 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 616 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, make sure you've got a really good support network, 617 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: whether that's therapist, counselor healer, acriventurist, natural path and then 618 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: also like with your friend group as well. Let's be real, 619 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 2: we've noticed friends that have been freaking incredible and checked 620 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: in and like you know, when people are really nice 621 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: and start crying. I've been doing that thing. If someone 622 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: calls me to check in, I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm 623 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: not sad, I'm just I can't cry where people are guyed. 624 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: But there's also been some people that have been NADA 625 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: that we thought were close to Would you. 626 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Say, yeah, can you share a bit about that? 627 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it has been a little bit hard. 628 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: I think some people can only show up in certain ways, 629 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: and I don't think everyone understands it. I think probably 630 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: are more empathetic friends are the ones that have been like, yeah, okay, 631 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: you're going through something tough. I might not get it, 632 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: but I'm going to be there to support and check in. 633 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think just other friends is just not 634 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: capable of understanding or showing up. 635 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: So what does that teach you? 636 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: Like? 637 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that like for me as well? 638 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: Like I've got so much love and respect for the 639 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: friends that have bothered to like pick up the phone 640 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: and just like totally in. Yeah, even if they don't 641 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: get it, Like I've we've got an amazing mate that 642 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't really get and he's like. 643 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. 644 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: I love that you're talking about it and it's just like, well, 645 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it makes me realize how lucky 646 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: we are to have the friends that we've got, and 647 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: like the friends that just give it to you straight too, 648 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm really valuing like just honesty, especially when I'm 649 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: in it too, and I'm like, I need to help. 650 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to do this, DA 651 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: what am I going to do? And I've just got 652 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: a few friends that are like, I hear you, I 653 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: see you, this is what I believe. And those people 654 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: you know who you are. I feel like I'm giving 655 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 2: an Oscar speech here. Thank you so much, because I 656 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: don't know that I would have been able to do 657 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: it without your support and without those people that have been. 658 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Just like consistently checking you. 659 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: It was nice to have Mum doing the hard needles 660 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: because some of the needles are harder. But good old Wendy, Yeah, 661 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: good old Wendy, little legend. 662 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Good job, boss, Very proud of you, Love. 663 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: You, sexyly, love you all right, gang, wishous luck all. 664 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Right, love you, love you, goodbye. 665 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 666 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 667 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: on Instagram. 668 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. 669 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: This potty my work for podcast is available on all 670 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: streaming platforms. 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