1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: wants answers. Now, I see not a bit. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Like I am losing my mind over the fact that 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: you're of ninety. 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Six thousand people here today, because it's true. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: I this is the biggest show that we have done 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: on this tour or any tour. The biggest news story 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: across Australia in the last week, without question, has been 10 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Queensland Council elections or government policy 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: or Anthony Albanezi or Donald Trump. Has barely even made 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: the news. You know what has been the number one 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: news story for the last week everywhere you look, Walter 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Wall coverage of It's been eight long months since Taylor's 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: We've revealed she was bringing her record breaking tour here 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: to Melbourne, sparking a frenzy that's engulfed the city all week. 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift. 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: Can't get enough of Taylor Swift. 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: You can't get enough. 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm saying, well, the country can't get enough Taylor Swift. 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I had had enough of her several years ago. 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: I heard you say you can't get enough Taylor Swift. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: Let's just Jay, Can we rewind that cannot get enough 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift. Okay, that's what I said. So our kids, well, 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: actually they've been okay ish. But I did check in 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: with our daughter, Lily, fourteen years old, and I said 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: to her, Hey, how are you feeling about not being 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: at Taylor Swift because so many of your friends did 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: get tickets? You know how? 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: She responded, I'm going to guess you probably burst into tears. 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Here's the audio. It looks like your eyes are leaking, kiddo. 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: The silly chance get tickets. 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: There's still a chance. So I think a bit abackstory 34 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: is necessary here. Our daughter's spent a full four days 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: or more, like as soon as Taylor Swift tickets came 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: on sale back in June last year. They had my 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: credit card. I reluctantly handed it over because I'm thinking, 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm not just buying concert tickets. Right. We live in 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Queensland where she's playing Melbourne and Sydney, and I'm thinking, well. 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: You're not just buying tickets for them. 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: It means that you have to buy tickets for an 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: adult who's going to supervise them on the travel. 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: That's right, probably two adults, Like I'm not going to 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: let you go with the kids and not be part 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: of it. I've got to I don't even like Taylor Swift, 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: but I've got to be part of the whole. I mean, 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't dislike her either, I'm just not that into it. 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: But if the family is doing it, the family is 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: doing it. I'm thinking, Okay, so that's four tickets, and 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: I want decent tickets, because when you get the seats 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: that are right up the back, what's the point of 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: even being there. I'm thinking thousands of dollars that we 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: don't have on a concert that I'm not even enthusiastic 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: about going to. But then we've got the airfares, and 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: you've got the hotel rooms, and you've got the car 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: rental or the ubers. You've got the restaurants or the 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: cafes or whatever you're going to eat, Like, this is 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: an insanely expensive thing. So I very reluctantly handed the 59 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: credit card. 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: So I'm going to throw you under the bus just 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: a little bit lucky. 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: Come on. 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: Paul McCartney came to Australia just a little while ago. 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: A living legend, a beetle and a beetle. 65 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: And when you had to look at his travel schedule. 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: We missed the concert in Brisbane, yep. And the next 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: concert that we could attend was was it in Bali? 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: No, it was Mexico, Mexico. 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: You actually started thinking about how we might make. 70 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: That trip for twelve seconds. Twelve come on, we had a. 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: Conversation about whether or not I would get on a 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: plane with you to go to Mexico so that we 73 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: could see. 74 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney spanol. 75 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: Let's just put this into perspective. 76 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: No Intendo at all now. So anyway, I gave them 77 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: the credit card and I said yes, even though I 78 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: didn't know how we were really going to be able 79 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: to the credit cut off, and I wasn't enthusiastic, but 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: I my heart broke. I watched them press refresh and 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: get onto iPads and laptops and every computer screen that 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: we could possibly find so that they could try. And 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: while they were trying and trying and trying and trying 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: to get on. 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: We were getting messages left, right and center from family friends, 86 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: other people that we knew of distance acquaintances who had 87 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: got tickets. 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Not only that, but some of them got in a 89 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: second time and even a third time and got tickets 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: for extras. Somebody did actually offer us some tickets that 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: they got surplus because they got in a couple of times, 92 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough tickets, and it wasn't quite It 93 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: didn't work for us, and we had to reluctantly and 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: very sadly say no. But it just felt like it 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: was so unjust. And I know, I just made a 96 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: big deal about Paul McCartney living Beetles, seeing him in concert, 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: very very big deal. But I think Taylor Swift might 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: be the biggest music artist ever to walk the planet. 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: Only she's got to be bigger than pretty much anybody 100 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: ever the last twenty thirty, forty fifty years. She's got 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: to be out there with the greats. And I remember 102 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: I remember the thrill as a teenager of knowing that 103 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: I'd scored tickets to go and see Guns N' Roses 104 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: at Eastern Creek in the early nineties, or Leny Kravitz 105 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: at the Sydney Entertainment Center or Princes same venue, or 106 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Henry Rowlands at the Harden. Most people might not know 107 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: who Henry Rowlands was, but I was stoked to get 108 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: tickets to go and see Henry Rowlands or whatever, rather 109 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: superstar was coming to Australia. Being there as well, being 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: there was unbelievable, regardless of the quality of the seats. 111 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: And so now Taylor Swift is here, we've got wall 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: to wall coverage and that means that right now actually 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: sucks for millions of teens who were reliving the disappointment 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: all over again. It's a really hard time for them. 115 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: On Monday, I was asked to appear on The Today 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Show to talk about what we're supposed to do to 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: help our kids if they're experiencing FOMO. They're seeing the instagrams, 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: they're seeing the photos, they're seeing the social media uploads, 119 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: they're hearing the news stories, and they're sitting in the 120 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: living room going I'm not there. I've missed this monumental 121 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: and it really is for them, this monumental event, and 122 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: my heart breaks. 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: And yet I can just see so many parents around 124 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: the country's eyes rolling, going come on, really, it's just. 125 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I think that we should share, just briefly, five ideas 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: that can help if your kids are struggling right now 127 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: with a little bit of Taylor Swift envy, because maybe 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: their friends got to go and they didn't, or maybe 129 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: they're just watching what's happening, but not actually being able 130 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: to be a part of it. Five ideas that can 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: really help. Can I dive in? Here we go? The 132 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: first idea is just have soft eyes. Have soft eyes, 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: don't roll your eyes, don't have fast moving, rapidly eye 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: rolling eyes. Just have soft eyes. You can't have soft 135 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: eyes and be unkind to somebody. Have you noticed that? 136 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Have you ever like, as you listen to this conversation 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: right now, try to make your eyes really hard, but 138 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: think loving thoughts about somebody, Think kindness while you've got 139 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: hard eyes, Like, you can't do it. It's impossible. Similarly, 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: it's impossible to have really soft eyes and think horrible thoughts. 141 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: You just can't do it. It doesn't work. 142 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: What I love about this concept, it's such an important 143 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: concept and building a relationship of love and trust with 144 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: our kids, with anyone in general, because if my eyes 145 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: are soft, it has the capacity to soften our children's hearts. 146 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: Their hearts are softened towards us because they have a 147 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: sense through our eyes, through soft eyes, that we actually understand, yeah, 148 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: what they're experiencing, and that it's important to them. 149 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: There's that compassion. Colm in passion colm is a prefix 150 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: forwards like community and common, communicate, combine, compact, compliment. In 151 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: other words, all of these words are about bringing things 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: together and passion. Historically, passion doesn't mean what everyone thinks. 153 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: It means, like Anthony Robin's getting excited about something. Passion 154 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: means to suffer, So compassion literally means to suffer with. 155 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: If your child's suffering right now, have much you think 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: it's silly, just meet them where they are. Soft eyes 157 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: means soft words means soft touch means soft hearts. You 158 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: can't have soft eyes and be dispassionate or unkind. So 159 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: soft eyes is my number one idea. My second idea, 160 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: give them the fantasy. Give them the fantasy even though 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: they can't have it in reality. 162 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: So the way you do that, it would be so awesome. 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: If we could go to Taylor's with right now. 164 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: That's exactly how you do it. 165 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: What would we do when we get there? What would 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: we wear? What song would you like it to sing? First? 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, just play with it, Just play with it. Don't 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: you wish you were there? Don't you just wish? It's 169 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: offering empathy, but it's also emphasizing reality. It's validating and 170 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: it's soft, but it's not patronizing. Third idea. Third idea 171 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: is listen. Just listen for reasons that are so hard 172 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: for us to understand as adults. Your child is experiencing 173 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: a form of mourning right now, and that fear of 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: missing out or the actual reality of missing out, genuinely 175 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: creates its own kind of grief. Like there's the social loss, 176 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: but there's also the experiential loss. Just be there for them, 177 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Just listen. Number four, don't minimize it. You said it before, Kylie, 178 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: it's just the concert. You might think that reminding your 179 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: kids that spending twenty five hundred bucks to see a 180 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: show that you need binoculars for and that you're not 181 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to hear the music properly anyway, 182 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: is going to make them feel better. But it won't 183 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Telling them that the music sounds better at home on 184 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: the TV or on Spotify. 185 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: Does on your ubute stereo system. 186 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: They don't look at it and go, oh, that's so true. 187 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Don't minimize it. 188 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: Maybe you have your own tailor swift concert in the 189 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: lound room. 190 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know what I reckon, there's something to that 191 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: you can buy ears. I mean, she's already made a bajillion, 192 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: literally a bajillion dollars off this thing. But you can 193 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: buy it on your smart TV and just spend the 194 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: money compared to what you would have spent. Just spend 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: the money and let them play that concert NonStop for 196 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: the next week or so. It will be the closest 197 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: thing that they can get to it. And it's showing 198 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: that you're not minimizing it. It's showing that you're willing 199 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: to meet them halfway, You're willing to make the effort. 200 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: I just think there's something in that. And the last 201 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: idea that I've got I can't help it. I have 202 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: to do it. Shake it off, Shake it off, shake 203 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: it off. What I mean by that is let them mourn, 204 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: and mourn with them, but then move on. 205 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: What I love about each of these steps, though, is 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: what it actually does is it allows them to process 207 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: their grief, their disappointment, their heartache around whatever it is 208 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: we're talking at Taylor Swift today, but this obviously works 209 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: with any area where they feel a level of disappointment 210 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: or grief around missing out on different things within their 211 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: social groups. As we show them a level of compassion 212 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: with our soft eyes, with our gentle touch and you know, 213 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: kind of allowing them to share what they're feeling and 214 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 2: we listen. It actually gives them the space needed. 215 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: To process it. When we are hard, when. 216 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: We come in with kind of just get over it, 217 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: it's just a concept. When we have little compassion or 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: understanding for what they're experiencing, what we actually do is 219 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: keep them stuck in that space, in that emotion, and 220 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: what could be over within a matter of days goes 221 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: on for weeks. 222 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: Well, it could have me decades. I remember when you 223 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: would not let me go to Taylor Swift and they're 224 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: like forty years old, and they're criticizing you as a 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: grand peace and that's why they're going to send their 226 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: kids to all the best concerts like this can go 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: for such a long long time. Morning means being allowed 228 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: to be sad. Moving on means finding the people and 229 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: the activities that are going to give you the strength 230 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: and confidence to believe that life is still rich even 231 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: when you don't get exactly what you want. In fact, 232 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: can I get deeply philosophical for about fifteen seconds. Not 233 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: getting what you want is what makes life precisely that rich, 234 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: because you can't appreciate how good. The good really is 235 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: unless you've experienced the bad. There has to be that 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: opposition so that you can appreciate what you've got. 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: And I guess the last thing I would share, yeah, 238 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: is helping our kids to celebrate their friends' experiences. Oh yeah, 239 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: this is really hard, especially when you wanted to be 240 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: a part of it. 241 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: But there is so much power in being able. 242 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: To take perspective of somebody else's experience and in some 243 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: ways share the joy of that experience vicariously. It doesn't 244 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: mean that you're not going to be upset that you 245 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: didn't get to go, but it does allow you to 246 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: have a sense of joy in that experience. 247 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: For the people who did go, for your. 248 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: Friends who have had that experience, and share the joy 249 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: of that. 250 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, for everyone who didn't get tickets, it could feel 251 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: like a cruel summer. 252 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: Oh you're good. 253 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: I worked that one in, didn't I. 254 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: The thing that I loved about Miss fourteen Lily was 255 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: she was so devastated that she couldn't go. She had 256 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: been making friendship bracelets for months in preparation, I know, 257 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: and one of her friends was getting ready to fly 258 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: out the next day and she said to her, I've 259 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: got a whole heap of friendship bracelets. 260 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: Would you like to take them? 261 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: Because I can't do anything with them now I'm. 262 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Getting them Peary. 263 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: I just loved that she was able to share the 264 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: joy that she had in preparing something that she can't 265 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: use and give it to somebody else who hadn't had 266 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: the chance to do that, and she was so excited. 267 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: This wasn't even a particularly close friend to her, but 268 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: she recognized the joy that she would be able to 269 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: experience through the exchange of these friendship bracelets. 270 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: And maybe they'll be closer friends as a result. Just 271 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: a general reminder as well for everyone whose kids were 272 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: lucky enough to score tickets, help them to share their 273 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: joy and sensitive and considerate ways they should be allowed 274 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: to celebrate, but it's always better when they can do 275 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: it nicely. The Happy Family's podcast is produced by Justin 276 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: ruland Craig Bruce, our executive producer. The Happy Family's Podcast 277 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: is back tomorrow. We'll talk to you there.