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Speaker 1: Blues Fast is coming up on April the first at

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Speaker 1: Nikola Estate. You can get your tickets through Ticketmaster and

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Speaker 1: this year featuring the likes of Count and Crow's, John Butler,

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Speaker 1: Michael Frantie and Spearhead and headlined by the Doobie Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Michael McDonald is joining us now. Good morning, Michael, good morning,

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Speaker 1: call you very very well. Now you heard that lineup.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever performed with any of those before, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm sure the band has. You know. I'm just

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Speaker 2: back with the band in the last two years for

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Speaker 2: our fiftieth anniversary, but I know some of those bands

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Speaker 2: So we're very much looking forward to coming down back,

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Speaker 2: getting back down under again. It's been a while for us.

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Speaker 3: Michael, very excited, massive fan of yourself and of the

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Speaker 3: band to see you see you're back with the boys

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Speaker 3: again with this, you know, the fiftieth anniversary tour. But

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Speaker 3: I just want to talk about Grammy Week. It was

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Speaker 3: a huge week of course with Stevie Wonder doing the

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Speaker 3: tribute to Smokey and Smokey Robinson and Berry Goody. You know,

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Speaker 3: as the music is people of the year you had

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Speaker 3: a big play in that week.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful to see the tributes, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: was so so honored to be asked to do that.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are just such giants in my mind as

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Speaker 2: far as music of the sixties, and you know what

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Speaker 2: part they played in all that is. They're probably the

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Speaker 2: reason I even do this today, you know. So it

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Speaker 2: was it was really a privilege.

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Speaker 1: Now but freshly back with the Dbie brothers. But of

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Speaker 1: course you've been you've toured for many, many years. What

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Speaker 1: is the biggest thing you would say has changed about

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Speaker 1: being on the road.

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Speaker 2: Well, we probably get a lot more sleep, you know,

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Speaker 2: our Hleral road we used to but uh yeah, you know, uh,

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Speaker 2: not much really, you know. It's it's funny. Back in

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Speaker 2: the in the day in the seventies, we traveled by airplane.

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Speaker 2: We had an old hot rodded you know. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was probably an old commuter airliner that was probably

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Speaker 2: you know, we we flew around the US and that uh, nowadays,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what, you know, people help people travel,

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Speaker 2: I know, for US we traveled by bus these days

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Speaker 2: in the US, and so we spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, Michael, is it true that that plane of

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Speaker 1: which you speak was called the Doobie Liner and you

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Speaker 1: had one for the one for the roadies called the

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Speaker 1: Krubie Liner.

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Speaker 2: That's very true.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to ask you that, Michael.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you that all my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, that's that's true, boy liner. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: the Dooby Liner became a became a restaurant. Oh really, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it actually became the Doobie Diner.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like something Jimmy Buffett to do, make it into

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Speaker 3: a business. Last time was last time I saw the Boys?

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Speaker 3: Was Tom Johnson was and Pat Simmons were sharing the

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Speaker 3: vocals and Tom mcfae were in town with yourself. Was

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Speaker 3: there ever a moment with the band where it was

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Speaker 3: a Don Hanley Eagles moment where it was like we're

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Speaker 3: not getting back together until hell phrases eva? Or was

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Speaker 3: it just you had a solo career to get them

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Speaker 3: with you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Think no, it was never any animosity. I think we've

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Speaker 2: we've always been friends. I mean, we did our share,

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Speaker 2: make up by the next day, you know. But we

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Speaker 2: were really what I think solidified us as a band

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Speaker 2: more than anything. It was our friendship and in the

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Speaker 2: fact that we all loved doing what we did together,

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Speaker 2: you know, and traveling together. There was a time where

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Speaker 2: the band you always had to make strategic decisions and

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Speaker 2: when the band broke up, when Pat you know, decided

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Speaker 2: of us that were left really warranted calling ourselves Adobies

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Speaker 2: having someone in there that that was originally with the band,

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Speaker 2: and although we were still playing Tom's music, you know,

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Speaker 2: as other sounders.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've had what you probably considered the distinct

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Speaker 1: pleasure of being in a couple of the biggest bands ever,

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Speaker 1: You know, Michael was the bad the very first band

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's great a bit of history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Michael Steely Dan have been my favorite band

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Speaker 3: for many years. And I love you guys as well,

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Speaker 3: but I know you as less you said you work

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Speaker 3: with him, But those two, you know, the light Walter

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Speaker 3: Baker and Donald Fagen, absolute studio perfectionists, Majie, you know,

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Speaker 2: Know, I always had good fun with the guys. You know,

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Speaker 2: they were tough, you know, in their own way, but

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Speaker 2: I always kind of figured it was because they were

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Speaker 2: was just getting a good New York hazing. You know.

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Speaker 2: Some of the LA musicians kind of kind of bristled

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Speaker 2: know they did, you know, they were exacting, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so they were really uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't like to say they were perfectionists, but they were.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of businessman about them. I guess that

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Speaker 1: you have collaborated with some amazing artists, the likes of

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Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin and Joni Mitchell and Van Halen. Is there

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Speaker 1: anyone you can think of that you would love to

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Speaker 2: There's probably so many artists, you know, and I've been

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Speaker 2: random providence. Really, you know, I think of artists that

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Speaker 2: they are out there today. I would still love to

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Speaker 2: make a record with Stevie Wonder, and we've worked together

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Speaker 2: it's just, you know, sometimes those things come to fruition,

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Speaker 2: sometimes they don't. But I still have high hopes that

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Speaker 2: we'll be able to do that someday. He actually played

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Speaker 2: on my motown records. But I would love to sing

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we want to sing back in Astralia if we can. Hey,

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Speaker 3: last night, when I was cooking dinner, Michael, I was

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Speaker 3: listening to a song, a live version of one of

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Speaker 3: your songs called I Keep Forgetting We're not in love anymore?

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Speaker 3: Do you have to have lived it to write and

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Speaker 3: sing with such passion about a subject, mate? Or can

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Speaker 2: It's funny that you asked that, because you know songs

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, like a lot of things, over

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Speaker 2: the years, even your own songs change in their meaning.

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Speaker 2: You know, what do you think the words meant when

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Speaker 2: come to mean after a few years is could sometimes

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Speaker 2: I do actually forget a lot of it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean songs like What's going On? You know,

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Speaker 1: The Deobu Brothers are recent inductees into the Rock and

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Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame. It was twenty twenty. What kind

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Speaker 1: of not is that? Is it a big night? Is

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. It was a real thrill for us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we're we sad that it wasn't televised. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I was really, you know, a flattered to be asked

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Speaker 1: I think it was important that you all be there.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was everyone's moment, yeah, part of it.

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Speaker 3: Michael, I want to talk about your voice. I think

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Speaker 3: you've got one of the great soul voices of all time.

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Speaker 3: What's the key in out seventy one recent birthday? That's

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things that I've come late to

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Speaker 2: I really didn't do much of anything to really that

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Speaker 2: I should. And I've heard of singers, you know, I

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Speaker 2: know singers that they have rituals and they really go

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Speaker 2: and I think in some cases it's really to the better.

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Speaker 2: You know. There's a great singers who read a lot

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Speaker 2: I smoked too much and I drank too much over

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Speaker 2: the years. Now I don't do any of those things.

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Speaker 2: I find it. I wish I had quit because my

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Speaker 2: of care of it. You know.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I've heard that can go both ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's just an excuse. I've heard people use it.

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Speaker 1: I can't quit now because almost.

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Speaker 3: Husky when we see you in Perth Night April first.

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Speaker 3: Is there a song with the Doobies that you can't

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Speaker 3: Is it one that that they just begged for.

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Speaker 2: There's a few with the Doobies that you know, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of them are Pat and Tommy songs that

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Speaker 2: to the music got so many of Tommy songs and

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Speaker 2: take It to the Streets is one of those songs

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Speaker 2: play it every night, and you know, frankly, it's it's

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Speaker 2: probably been tired of playing the songs fifty years ago,

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Speaker 2: that experience with that audience, the song is it's kind

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Speaker 2: And so it's never it never goes old, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, Michael. We asked all of the music coming

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Speaker 3: out to show the last artist, band or T shirt

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Speaker 3: that you wore. If you wear the T shirts and

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Speaker 2: I'll see the last one, you know, I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I haven't worn much merch It used to be. I

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Speaker 2: wore it all the time because it was the only

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Speaker 2: clean orlundria, you know, so I'd be wearing all these

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Speaker 2: because the last clean shirt I had. You know, I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of those T shirts. I did find

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Speaker 2: the box once. Of all this vintage do be better

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Speaker 2: merchandise from the early seventies, none of which I could

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Speaker 3: I horn that was going on, you never let your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the Blues first is as I said April first,

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Speaker 1: this is not a joke. At Nicola Estate tickets through

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Speaker 1: Ticketmaster and the Doobie Brothers Michael McDonald, we are very

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Speaker 1: much looking forward to reaching our shores. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: your chat today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, good to talk.

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Speaker 2: Well. I'm looking forward to it very much too, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Thanks Michael, Thanks all the best guys.

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