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Speaker 1: Jump mission with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Sean Fraser has joined us. We're hearing this morning that

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Speaker 2: Russia has moved into Ukraine. What is the story here?

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Speaker 2: Excuse my ignorance, but let's do Russia Ukraine for dummies.

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Speaker 2: Why is Russia interested right now in going into Ukraine?

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Speaker 2: Is this because Ukraine wanted to join NATO?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I believe, I believe so it's it is

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Speaker 3: quite a complex situation that Ukraine and Russia for years

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Speaker 3: now been back and forth. They haven't really liked each

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Speaker 3: other too much for months. Vladimir Putin he's denied that

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Speaker 3: he's been planning any sort of attack at all, but

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Speaker 3: his troops are, like you said, now on Ukrainian soil.

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Speaker 3: State of emergency has been declared in the Ukraine this morning.

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Speaker 3: That's that's pretty serious stuff. That Why is Russia looking

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Speaker 3: to invade? Now? This dates back. It speculated that Putin's

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Speaker 3: goal is to return to the former Soviet Union. He's

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Speaker 3: already taken crime south of Ukraine. So it's a pretty

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Speaker 3: dive situation, right, So are we going to war? No?

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Speaker 3: Is the answer I would say for Australia. If you

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Speaker 3: if you're worried about Australia and Australian troops heading to war.

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Speaker 3: Scott Morrison said as early as half an hour ago

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Speaker 3: that we won't be sending troops places like the US

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Speaker 3: and the UK. They've got troops around the globe and

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Speaker 3: they are on alert, but we don't actually have a

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Speaker 3: treaty or an alliance with Ukraine, so Australia is just

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Speaker 3: keeping an eye on it at the moment. As for

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Speaker 3: you know, the regular joe out there today, there has

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Speaker 3: been a bunch of cyber attacks around the world, so

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Speaker 3: you've got to, you know, make sure that you've got

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Speaker 3: all your stuff on your computer. You know, you're stuff

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Speaker 3: backed up. Yeah, because there have been cyber attacks across

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Speaker 3: the world, and we're obviously putting up our hand and

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Speaker 3: saying that we're you know, in alliance with Ukraine. So

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Speaker 3: interesting mine that's where and data mining that's the that's

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Speaker 3: the new thing. That's what everyone wants, like China and

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Speaker 3: Russia and all those people.

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Speaker 2: But I just feel for the people of Ukraine who

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Speaker 2: are on the who were just waiting to see what

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Speaker 2: this means, and even for Australians. There's a story in

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Speaker 2: the Herald this morning Ukraine is second to United States

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Speaker 2: for surrogacy for Australians. So there are hot There have

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Speaker 2: been four Australian babies born to surrogates in Ukraine for

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Speaker 2: the past two months, fifteen more due in the next

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Speaker 2: coming months. And Australians the babies are only signed over

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Speaker 2: if both of you go there and it's signed by

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Speaker 2: our embassy has been disbanded, so you cannot get your passports,

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Speaker 2: you cannot. There's a whole there's a whole. Look at

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Speaker 2: this photo. Here's a whole nursery of babies who were stranded.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the heartbreak for those parents, but for everyone in

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Speaker 2: Ukraine wondering what does this mean? What does it mean

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Speaker 2: for them?

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Speaker 3: Sean, Yeah, it's quite a dice situation. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: there's five million people they believe that could be displaced

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Speaker 3: if war goes ahead. And even though Australia might not

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Speaker 3: be heading to war, it looks like Ukraine and Russia. Rah.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I get a.

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Speaker 1: Vibe that he's going to be on the brig and

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Speaker 1: then pull back.

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Speaker 2: That's who knows what's really the Brendan Jonesy Jones.

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Speaker 1: This was my analysis. He'll be on the brink and

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Speaker 1: then he's goes ah, you know I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not, but he'll want to save face. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is what's terrible. This is a tragic, tragic scenario,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. And you just hope, hope you're right, Brendan,

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Speaker 2: who knows where your spidery sense. But he won't. He'll

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Speaker 2: need to save face somehow. It's all brinkmanship with him, isn't.

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Speaker 1: It's brinkmanship and you have to And then we've got

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Speaker 1: to live on the world. We don't want to blow

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Speaker 1: each other up. And we've going through a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff right now. So I even Putin's probably thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll just play the piano and wrestle the beer.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, last week he was saying that his troops

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Speaker 3: were pulling back from the border. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: talk about that the Russian troops were leaving, and then

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Speaker 3: there were reports that no, there's more Russian troops on

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Speaker 3: the border than there were before he said he was

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Speaker 3: pulling the back. So whether he you know, he hasn't

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Speaker 3: been telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: No, Sean, that was very good. I wish you delivered

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Speaker 1: it in about six different languages that journalists we saw

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Speaker 1: the other day.

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Speaker 3: I was talking about that the other day. He's just

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Speaker 3: giving himself more word.

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Speaker 2: So you can actually speak ten languages, but you're pretending

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Speaker 2: not to.

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Speaker 1: You could do it and you beggar stand language, but no.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep us up to date. Jonesy and Amanda's Gamnation