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Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Wednesday,
Speaker 3: the first of May.
Speaker 1: I'm Zara, I'm sam.
Speaker 3: This week, a hate speech trial against One Nation leader
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson has begun in the Federal Court.
Speaker 1: A defamation trial between Deputy Green's leader Marine Ferruki and
Speaker 1: One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has begun, with Australia's hate
Speaker 1: speech laws expected to be put to the test.
Speaker 2: Well National leader Pauline Hanson has been accused of unleashing
Speaker 2: a torrent of public racist abuse against Green senator Marine Ferruki,
Speaker 2: including threats against her life. The case, brought by Green
Speaker 2: Senator Marine Ferruki, centers around an exchange on social media
Speaker 2: following the death of Queen Elizabeth.
Speaker 3: It comes after Hansen was accused of racially discriminating against
Speaker 3: Green's deputy leader Marie Ferruki in a social media post
Speaker 3: from twenty twenty two. Hanson and Faruki have both faced
Speaker 3: questioning so far in the hearing, so on today's podcast,
Speaker 3: we're going to explain a bit about the context of
Speaker 3: the case and what could happen next before we get
Speaker 3: there though, sam what's making headlines.
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Speaker 3: formulated so sam this week, a hate speech trial against
Speaker 3: One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has begun in the Federal Court. Now.
Speaker 3: It all centers around comments that Hansen made on social
Speaker 3: media back in twenty twenty two, when she was accused
Speaker 3: of racially discriminating against Green's deputy leader Marine Feruki. So
Speaker 3: far we've seen both Hanson and Feruki face questioning this week.
Speaker 1: And what was the post that actually kicked all of
Speaker 1: this off if we go right to the beginning of
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 3: So in a social media post following the death of
Speaker 3: Queen Elizabeth this second, you'll remember that was in September
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. You were on holidays. I was
Speaker 3: slicsfully unaware.
Speaker 1: I was away what you werewa.
Speaker 3: Was sleeping anyway at that time Marine Ferruki, who as
Speaker 3: I said, is a Green senator. She wrote it was
Speaker 3: then on Twitter now on x saying condolences to those
Speaker 3: who mourn the queen. I cannot mourn the leader of
Speaker 3: a racist empire built on stolen lives, land and wealth
Speaker 3: of colonized peoples. She called for a treaty with First Nations,
Speaker 3: justice and reparations for British colonies. In response, Pauline Hansen
Speaker 3: told Feruiki to quote piss off back to Pakistan. And
Speaker 3: it's that comment that Mariene Feruki is claiming was hate speech.
Speaker 1: So Pauline Hanson fires off a tweets towards Marine Ferruki
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. What's happened from then to now?
Speaker 3: Yes, So, shortly after the tweets were posted, Marine Ferruki
Speaker 3: moved to what's called censure Pauline Hanson in the Federal Senate.
Speaker 3: And essentially what a center is is a formal statement
Speaker 3: disapproval of a politician's actions or policies, doesn't have any
Speaker 3: legal consequences and doesn't really hold much weight. We've seen
Speaker 3: a number of politicians censured and never really translates outside
Speaker 3: of Parliament House.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like being told off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Fariki urged her fellow senators to condemn Hanson's
Speaker 3: quote divisive, anti migrant and racist statement, which she had
Speaker 3: said unleashed an avalanche of hate. Instead, Labor and Coalition
Speaker 3: senators passed a general motion at the time condemning racism
Speaker 3: and discrimination in all its.
Speaker 1: Forms, so she didn't really get the response from the
Speaker 1: Parliament that she'd hoped for.
Speaker 3: She didn't, and so from their Marine Ferruki moved to
Speaker 3: lodge a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission. However,
Speaker 3: when Pauline Hanson refused to participate in an investigation. There,
Speaker 3: Marine Fruki ended up pursuing legal action instead, and that's
Speaker 3: how we get to hear So Marine Feruki is arguing
Speaker 3: in this legal action that Pauline Hansen engaged in unlawful
Speaker 3: offensive behavior and that that is a breach of Australia's
Speaker 3: racial discrimination laws. As part of this case, Ferruki has
Speaker 3: also provided expert analysis of social media users responses to
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson's post.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's what Farruki is arguing in court. What
Speaker 1: does Pauline Hanson say in response to all of this?
Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson is denying that the tweets were made based
Speaker 3: on race. Her lawyers have made two main defenses. So
Speaker 3: the first is that the post is protected by fair
Speaker 3: comment on a matter of public interest, so arguing there
Speaker 3: that Hanson therefore had a right to make a statement
Speaker 3: defending the monarchy right. The second point that her lawyers
Speaker 3: are arguing is that the post is protected by an
Speaker 3: implied but not an expressly stated right of political communication,
Speaker 3: meaning that both Pauline Hanson and Marine Ferruki have a
Speaker 3: right to engage in political debate.
Speaker 1: Okay. Interesting, So Pauline Hanson. Ultimately, there isn't denying she
Speaker 1: ever said it. I mean it's there in writing what
Speaker 1: she's said.
Speaker 3: I can't deny it. Yeah, millions of people.
Speaker 1: Right, So what she's saying is she was allowed to
Speaker 1: say it because of those political and public interest defenses.
Speaker 1: So both sides are bringing those arguments to court this week.
Speaker 1: What have we heard in the court so far? So?
Speaker 3: Day one started with Marine Ferruki up as a witness,
Speaker 3: and she was arguing, as expected, that Pauline Hanson's tweet
Speaker 3: was racist. She said that she felt like she had
Speaker 3: been silenced on colonization and made to feel like she
Speaker 3: didn't belong here. She said that she started experiencing racism
Speaker 3: in an overwhelming way once she entered into public life.
Speaker 3: In response, Hanson's lawyer, Sue chrisent Thau argued, and I'll
Speaker 3: quote it here, the racism that you've experienced is far,
Speaker 3: far worse than the conduct that you complain about in
Speaker 3: relation to my client. Christentthu went on to claim that
Speaker 3: the barrage of abuse that Feriki said she had faced
Speaker 3: was actually due to her own tweet, which was described
Speaker 3: by the lawyer as provocative. Fariki rejected this premise, and
Speaker 3: she said that Hanson was a well known, longstanding and
Speaker 3: prolific sayer of racist things.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then Marine Feriki went off the stand in
Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson then took over. What did she have to say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So on day two, Pauline Hansen took to the
Speaker 3: stand and over the course of the day she was
Speaker 3: essentially just played a number of clips of comments that
Speaker 3: she had made over a number of years, including in
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen when she said, and I quote here, Islam
Speaker 3: was a disease that people need to vaccinate themselves from.
Speaker 3: So Faruki's lawyers were claiming that Hansen told her to
Speaker 3: go back to where she came from because she is
Speaker 3: a Muslim woman. Hanson rejected this premise and said that
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, when she published the tweet about
Speaker 3: Marine Ferruki, she didn't know that she was Muslim. So
Speaker 3: is that kind of questioning and back and forth that occurred.
Speaker 3: On the second day of the hearing, Hanson spoke of
Speaker 3: feeling incensed and insulted by Ferruki's tweet.
Speaker 1: So this is ongoing. We'll keep everybody updated as this
Speaker 1: case progresses. But Fariki brought this case against Hanson in
Speaker 1: the beginning, what is she actually looking for here?
Speaker 3: If she wins, she's asking for an apology from Pauline
Speaker 3: Hanson and one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in compensation
Speaker 3: to be paid towards a charity. Whether or not she
Speaker 3: gets that, we will have to wait and see.
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking us through that, Zara. We'll bring everybody
Speaker 1: the result, perhaps in a news story when that gets
Speaker 1: passed down by the court, and who knows how long.
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