1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: We are joined this morning by Vincent Fan. Vincent is 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: the curator of the one thousand Libraries Instagram account. It's 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the largest social media account in the world dedicated to 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: books and libraries. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Vincent, good morning. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 3: Good night, good morning, Closey and Lisa. Thanks for having me. 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Vincent, what is the one thousand library social media account? 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: What's it all about? 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: It's all about inspiring people to visit more bookstores than 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: libraries all around the world. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: All right, you did, in fact, ask your followers of 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: the site to tell you what they think are the 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: best libraries and bookstores in the world. And I see 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: that the State Library of Victoria and the Ambasan Books 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Are in Sydney made the top fifteen list. 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: But nothing from Perth. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: No, unfortunately, nothing from Perth. But there's a good reason 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: for that because our main Australian audience is based in 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Melbourne and Sydney here. But it's just it's still very 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: incredible to have those two places in the top fifteen 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: in world ranking in voted our community. 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen, that's that's high price. 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: It is, Hey, Vincent, do you think it's a really 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: big COVID was a really big kickstarter of people going 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: back to tangible entertainment pastimes like books and vinyl and 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 4: the rest of it. Do you think that was a 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: huge influence. 29 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: It was, yes, I think you know, during COVID, we 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: all started realizing that we're spending way too much time 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: on our phones, on our tablets and computers. And I 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: get this right, there's a research that shows that we 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: spend staggering seventeen years of our lifetime on our phone. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: How crazy is that. I think, you know, people have 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: started realizing feeling those these screens of the load and 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: started going back to basics, which is, you know, the 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,559 Speaker 3: more analogue kind of pastimes. 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: If you met Yeah, I'm a big reader, Vincent, and 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I sort of resisted the online book, you know, the 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: e reader type of buying books for a long time 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: because I had this you know, romantic notion about books 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: and paper and holding a book and all that. 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: And just recently I have started buying, you know, more 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: of them online. 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Because I've just run out of space for books. But 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: I understand the rest of the world's gone the other way. 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: They're going back to the paper books, the physical books. 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what there's it saying in the community that 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: says you don't have there's no such as too much books. 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: You just don't have enough bookshelves. 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. I hate myself for a vincent, but 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: I can't. You know, it's just sort of it's just 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: evolved that way. 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of people going online right now 55 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: checking out Instagram accounts where you see incredible libraries that 56 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: people have set up in their homes. 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: And that's you know, if I one lotto won the 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: lottery vincident, my dream is always have a room where 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: I have one of those ladders. It's on wheels that 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: just spins across the room as I get to the 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: top to get to my books. 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: I'm such a. 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: Nerd, you fantasized like that. I was on a work 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: trip seven or eight years ago and there's a younger 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: work acquaintance I was on the trip with, and I 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 4: was reading an autobiography. I love reading entertainment and sports autobiogs. 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: And I was reading this book and the guy looked 68 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: at me and he went, oh, clerzy a book, old school, 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: and he. 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: Thought he was really rude. He was really cool. 71 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: So it does go back and forward, but it can 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: be seen as something but isn't it funny because that 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: same dude is probably now reading book books. 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's really interesting. You know that books are 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: making a huge comeback, and you know it used to 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: be seen as you know, an old school thing and 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: something that nerves will do. Right now, books are cool, 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: which is amazing to see. 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: Books are very cool. 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: And as someone who does it both ways, I'll just 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: let me start that again, just as someone who both 82 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: reads physical books and does them online, here are the 83 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: reasons why physical books are better. First of all, if 84 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you read a lot and you're not picking up the 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: book every day and seeing the cover, you will forget 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: the name of what you're reading when you're reading it 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: on an e reader, and you can't just you know, 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: flip the book back to the front page to see 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: something that you've missed in the opening line of it or. 90 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: Something you've got to go back in a weird way. 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: So, even though I've been doing both, I still recommend 92 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: physical books the most. I got to ask you, Vincent, 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: where are what city in the world are the best 94 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: bookshops in. 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: The best The number one bookshop in our work ranking 96 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: is actually in Portugal. Yeah, it's this gorgeous place called 97 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: if Brother Leo. And what's interesting about this one is 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: that it's trade out of her Harry Potter movie. So 99 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 3: it's been rumored that J. K. Rowling used to spend 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: quite a lot of time there when she was writing 101 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: the first Harry Potter movie. And a lot of people 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: say that she inspired herself by the magical atmosphere of 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: this bookstore. Yeah, to create to create the magical atmosphere in. 104 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Logicals right up there on my list of places that 105 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: I wanted really, so you know, I love another reason 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: to want to go to Portugal. 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: That's funny because I had this chat with Lisa here 108 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: off here the other day and I said, what would 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: you really like to do if you could just do 110 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: any business it didn't matter for it made money. And one 111 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: sure said, I'd have a little bookshop, a little cafe bookshop. 112 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: Cafe bookshop. That's my dream. I'll let you know, Vincent 113 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: when it's on the market. Yeah, all right, well I 114 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: believe you. 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Next project is a coffee table book on the most 116 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: beautiful libraries in the world. 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: I look forward to that as well. Nice, Yes, there is. 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: We just launched on a Kickstarter about two days ago 119 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: and we're almost halfway funded, which is amazing in just 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: forty eight hours. Yeah, yeah, it's been Yeah, it's been 121 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: really popular. The whole campaign was meant to go for 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 3: thirty five days and we're almost halfway there in terms 123 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: of funding, so it's incredible. It looks like people are 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: very excited about it. It's called the most Beautiful book 125 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: Places in the World and it's essentially the Instagram account 126 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: but in a beautiful print format to us lide al right, 127 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: I love it. 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: Well, we're seeing the proof in the putting out with 129 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: the sales numbers around the world and around Australia of 130 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: course starting up in recent times, which is the last 131 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: two years, which is wonderful. 132 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Well, one thousand Libraries is the Instagram account to look for. 133 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: It's been lovely to have chat with. 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: You, Vincent, Thanks Crazy and Lisa, thanks for having me. 135 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: That was really fun. 136 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 4: Thanks all the best.