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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to feariously fail. Hello, friends,

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Speaker 1: welcome to your pod. Your interviewp with Mitch Jury. He's

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Speaker 1: a celebrated radio host, pod host, comedian, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: literally does it all in this chart.

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Speaker 2: He's really honest.

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Speaker 1: He will just share really openly the highs and lows

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Speaker 1: of his career, some of which has been kind of public.

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Speaker 1: And he has this incredible work ethic that I think

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Speaker 1: any creative if you listen to this, I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna find it really inspiring because I think that often

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Speaker 1: we see the highlight reel, we see the wins, we

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Speaker 1: don't often see the or hear about the slog and

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Speaker 1: how tough and how long it can take to kind

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Speaker 1: of like make your dreams come true. So Mitch chairs

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Speaker 1: really openly and honestly, and I said this at the.

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Speaker 2: End of our chat.

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Speaker 1: I was like, can we please be friends? And he's

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Speaker 1: just an effing legend. So you, the listener, I hope

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Speaker 1: you love this chat. I hope you get something out

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 2: Mitch. You flipping wonderful.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see you next time I'm in Australia. Also,

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Speaker 1: please come and visit me in LA I would absolutely

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Speaker 1: love that. And yes, I am absolutely adopting you as

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Speaker 1: my friend, against maybe your will. Everyone else, go listen, enjoy,

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Speaker 1: share it with your mates.

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Speaker 2: You get a laugh out of this.

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Speaker 3: Mitch.

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Speaker 2: You're wonderful. Mitch Drue, welcome to the pud Well A

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Speaker 2: very great to be here. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to put a bit of pressure on

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Speaker 1: you straight out of the gate, Halfair. I have this

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Speaker 1: thing when I interview people, like if I think I

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Speaker 1: might be friends with them after yeah, oh no no.

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Speaker 1: But I was saying this to the beautiful Claire who's

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Speaker 1: my pod manager, and I was like, I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling we might become friends after this.

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Speaker 3: I think so too. I thought the exact same thing

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Speaker 3: as soon as I we gave me gifts too. You

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Speaker 3: butter me up with these free your free hot chocolate.

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Speaker 2: I love It's my love language, chocolate. I'm a gift giver.

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Speaker 3: They are your own products, so you know, I'm deeply

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Speaker 3: aware of where this is coming from. Blow the dust, honey,

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Speaker 3: you get me an out of the book, and chocolate

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Speaker 3: we got to get other.

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Speaker 2: Guess i'd hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So to me researching, I'm a bit of a deep diver,

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Speaker 1: Like I really am, a bit of a do all

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Speaker 1: the research and then throw it away and just go

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Speaker 1: wherever the interview goes.

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Speaker 3: And for the listener. Handwritten too, which is very is

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Speaker 3: that rare. I've never seen that in my entire career.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: And can you hold it up? I just want to

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Speaker 3: get it. I want to get a age of your handwriting.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful handwriting.

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Speaker 2: Really a bit messy, but it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's a window to the personality and the psyche. I think.

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Speaker 3: So what you googling with one hand, iPad on my lap, well,

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Speaker 3: a Berry branded hot chocolate in the other hand, and

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Speaker 3: then what a pen and you're just jotting?

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Speaker 1: Is literally for you, I'll because you were such a

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Speaker 1: joy to research.

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Speaker 2: Should I say so?

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Speaker 1: I'd had my laptop up and I always start I

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Speaker 1: go a bit backwards.

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Speaker 2: I always start with YouTube and.

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Speaker 1: Then I go podcasts, and then I go like your content,

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Speaker 1: and then I usually end up with your content last,

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Speaker 1: like I want to see other people's like pov of

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Speaker 3: Oh, I like it your back end then front end, yes,

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Speaker 3: and so then.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, have to take notes.

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Speaker 1: I have to take handwritten notes, and I keep all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. That's me because I went to

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Speaker 3: theater school. I've got all my theater school books.

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Speaker 3: And I was showing my boyfriend the other day because

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Speaker 3: It's not but I don't do it anymore. So I

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Speaker 1: I'm also I'm so much older than you, so I

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Speaker 1: think it's also like being an elder millennial.

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Speaker 3: Which is, oh, you're an elder millennial. I'm thirty nine,

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Speaker 3: ten years.

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Speaker 2: Right, But that's a whole generational.

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Speaker 3: Per Pishpash couldn't tell, you know, you're a young soul.

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Speaker 3: I'm an old soul. You know, we're both hot, like

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Speaker 3: just shit right, But we've got the bowtos going for you know.

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Speaker 2: I love that you love. Am I allowed to say?

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Speaker 2: What salmon sperm.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a guy that I was telling you about

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Speaker 3: on a date before with salmon and I got seven sperm? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 3: I've had seven sperm in the in the eyes.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Sign me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you are a radio host, a comedian, a

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Speaker 1: TV presenter. So for me, when I see all of

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Speaker 1: that and I start to like soak up all your content,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're an entertainer.

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Speaker 2: You're like a born entertainer.

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Speaker 2: Is that how you would describe yourself?

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Speaker 3: I say, I think, I say performer? Do you Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Because I've got this real ego complex and this real

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. I's like you gotta go back to America.

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Speaker 3: I struggle with entertainer at steel. I have a visceral

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Speaker 1: I remember I was an acting class in Melbourne and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a compliment. Yes, I'll take that as

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Speaker 1: a win because you and I have the exact.

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Speaker 2: Same mega dream.

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Speaker 3: Oh really yeah.

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Speaker 2: So one of it's like Steve Colbert is like my

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I know who I sat next to it

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Speaker 1: Sushi Brentwood.

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Speaker 2: Oh stop that sushi with his wife, his son. He's

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Speaker 3: Tall. Wait what sushi restaurant?

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Speaker 3: He talks about it on his podcast. I've always thought,

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Speaker 3: next time I'm in La, I'm going sugar Fish packed.

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Speaker 1: It was packed and there was only one table, and

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Speaker 3: Oh I love it so much as great right.

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Speaker 1: In kind as anything, like so incredible, so sweet. And

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Speaker 1: more sakis than me, and she's like, Lola was just

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Speaker 1: Like fully was like pitchy meter kind of no, Brian, how.

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Speaker 1: He's he's so lovely, Like he was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: It was one of those.

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Speaker 1: So LA is a really brutal place sometimes career wise,

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Speaker 1: and then you have those days where you're just like,

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Speaker 1: Anthey Lapalia to having dinner next to Conan O'Brien all

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Speaker 3: Rove McManus, like, this man is my everything. He was

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Speaker 3: then my mom suggested that I write him a letter,

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Speaker 2: I remember this.

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Speaker 3: And then they had a live feed of Sydney Harbor

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Speaker 3: and every fucking house went on, off on, everyone was

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Speaker 1: Also, there's something about the magic of that format of

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's incredible. I love it. I love the grandeur.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot to be said about transitioning late

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Speaker 3: A lot that needs to change. But I just love

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Speaker 3: the brass band, I love the host. I loved the monologue.

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Speaker 3: or comes from Rove. So where did it stem for from?

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Speaker 3: For you? Was it Rove no.

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Speaker 1: I mean I always watched Rove, but I like Stick.

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Speaker 1: When I started acting training, i'd always get put forward

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Speaker 3: we want the cash cock. Funny, you know it works.

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00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 3: So they needed a cash cock, they needed a mascot

441
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,920
Speaker 3: and they're like that new kid's funny. Obviously, don't have

442
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 3: to pay me anything. I'm a kid. So they're like

443
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,879
Speaker 3: easy and he's fat, that's funny, you know the visual gag. No,

444
00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,760
Speaker 3: that's how they work. Ye, it's like, oh, he's jubby,

445
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: it's great. So I get a message from my manager

446
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 3: and the marketing team going, oh, the head of Kiss

447
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 3: wants to meet you. Head on up after the Kyle

448
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,119
Speaker 3: and Jackie Oh show. Tomorrow at nine and thinking okay,

449
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 3: and I didn't know, like, you know, were kings of

450
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 3: a radio station. I didn't know who this boss was.

451
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, big big bus, big.

452
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 3: Boss who would later be my boss for my whole career.

453
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 3: And Kyle and Jackie are So I walk up the stairs.

454
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,639
Speaker 3: I go to the studio, which I'd never been to before,

455
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,360
Speaker 3: and Kyle Jackie is sitting there after the show DBS,

456
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,359
Speaker 3: sitting there and he just looks at me and he goes,

457
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 3: I hear you pretty funny. You think you're pretty funny?

458
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 3: And I go, oh, you know, yeah, well you know

459
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,720
Speaker 3: I studied improv and you're thinking it's like an audition already, Yeah,

460
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 3: study improv, you see b And he's like, can you

461
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 3: be a rooster? Cuts me off, can be a rooster?

462
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, like a chick? Like a chicken. He's like, yeah,

463
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: like a chicken, Ben Chicken. And then in front of

464
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 3: Kyle Jackie, all the other team by the way working

465
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: like sitting on the computers working. This is a normal

466
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,959
Speaker 3: day for them. So I just go, sure, how can

467
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 3: be chicken? So I squat onto my like my legs

468
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 3: squat down and just walk around the room bucking like

469
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,199
Speaker 3: a chicken, and they think it's the funniest thing in

470
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 3: the world. They're dying laughing, and then they pivot talk

471
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 3: about whatever's happening on the show the next day, and

472
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 3: I just stay there like half squatted, like do I

473
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 3: go now? And the head of marketing was there with me.

474
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 3: It's just like you just can't. So I have to

475
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 3: go get up and we go walk off. And then

476
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 3: I got a call that day saying you're a cash cock.

477
00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 3: You start next Monday. You're on air. You were the

478
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: cash cop. That's how it works, which mind you, no prep,

479
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 3: no producer briefing. It was a miscommunication. They thought Mitch

480
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: had it. I thought they had it. So I turn

481
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 3: up at five am. I'm outside some woman's house in Blacktown,

482
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 3: dressed as a giant rooster with a thousand dollars strapped

483
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 3: to my chest like a fucking suicide bomber, saying the

484
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 3: most insane isis maybe you've ever seen in your life.

485
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 3: And I'm strapped and I have a phone, and the

486
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 3: producer crosses to me, the show's live, and you know

487
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 3: a classic producer mind Mitch, Honey, you're on. You're on

488
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 3: after this song three minutes. What do you got for us?

489
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 3: And I had nothing, like genuinely nothing, because I thought

490
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 3: it's a bigger show in the world. That prep me,

491
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 3: brief me, I'll be told what to do. And you

492
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 3: could just hear the pit like she she was livered

493
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 3: and she goes hone. You got to you got to

494
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 3: give us something, babe. You got to think on your feed.

495
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 3: And it was that uc B training and it was

496
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: just a Nate and you know, I'm I think I'm

497
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: a rooster. What does a rooster sound like? So I

498
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 3: was in Blacktown, so came out of the song It's

499
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 3: time with the cash coock. You know, chicken dance plays

500
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: and in the morning, I mean black Town. They loved

501
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: it and early early in the morning to get the cock.

502
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 3: Don't you think like it just works?

503
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 2: Oh?

504
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: I did it for a year for four years.

505
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, Oh you're amazing stupid.

506
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 3: Ended up in hospital three times as.

507
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: The cashcock because you got tackled.

508
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 3: Well that was the whole premise. You get tackled to

509
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: the ground. Yeah, and whoever gets you first gets the cash.

510
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: And it became this cult Sydney icon, right, and people

511
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: there would be like hundreds of people chasing me to

512
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 3: the ground. Men would drive off the highway in there

513
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: in their highluxes and chase me into parks. There was

514
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: one where it got so popular and the prize was

515
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: fifty grand. Something stupid strapped to me and they worked

516
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 3: out what car I was in. It was like a

517
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: higher car, but someone saw me and it was spotted

518
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: and I couldn't get out of the car. It was

519
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: like a zombie movie, all these these listeners in the

520
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 3: western sidur of the Sydney banging on the window. Yeah,

521
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: and you couldn't. It was like Princess Diana. I couldn't

522
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: get out of the car dressed as his chicken.

523
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: I like, I feel like as well that show would

524
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: feel really high stakes as well, like best Shot, like biggest,

525
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: like like huge team like and it's just like you're

526
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: on and it's so fascinating the way that their producers like,

527
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: you're on, give me something, think on your feet. It

528
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 1: is scary when you're in those like high stake worlds,

529
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 1: but it's really good as well because you can kind

530
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: of like course correct really quickly in the moment, and

531
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: it's such a good learning and it's such a great way.

532
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: To cut your tea will make a choice and commit

533
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: to it, right, Yeah, which is kind of what improv is,

534
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: you know, so you know the best we kind of

535
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: skipped over my improv, but the best thing I ever

536
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: learned improv. Yeah, and in my comedy training, which I

537
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: live by to this day. Like I don't have many mantras,

538
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 3: but when I'm kind of like lost or what's fucking funny?

539
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 3: These days, I always think, and I learned at you see,

540
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: b if if that's true, what else is true? Like

541
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: if I'm a giant chicken that has a speech impediment,

542
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: and that's like, if that's true in this whole world,

543
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: then what else can be true? You know? What's the

544
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 3: next level on that? You know? Wow? So it's just

545
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: always next level.

546
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: So exactly.

547
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So if you're in a situation you go, well,

548
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 3: this is funny. It's getting laughs, And if that's true

549
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: in this dumb, made up world, then put a hat

550
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: on a hat? What else can be true? That's funny?

551
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: So I just kind of live by that, and it's

552
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: I apply that to everything.

553
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh I love it you act as well, don't you?

554
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

555
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: What how like?

556
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: Because that feels like such a different beast to like

557
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: when you're behind a mic or you know what I mean.

558
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean to be honest, like acting was

559
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 3: like the dream, the dream. And it was from eighteen

560
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: to like twenty three that I was acting. I was

561
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: doing productions. I did shows at the atyp yeah, like

562
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: to it to the National Theater, but that stopped that,

563
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 3: or when I did radio. I didn't do any any

564
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: acting at all, didn't do any acting classes. It kind

565
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: of dropped off.

566
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Speaker 2: I gotta say, you suit the actor's red carpet.

567
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, yeah.

568
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: But I've been like, does it inspire you, like being

569
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: up there and seeing all these like incredible artists being celebrated.

570
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: It does, yet does Yeah? And I'm a jealous person,

571
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: You're jealous?

572
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'll see someone and I'll be like, oh,

573
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: I want to be there, Like I want to be there.

574
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: But I also know, like, and this is I'm a

575
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: decade older than you.

576
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: No one is you.

577
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: There's no other Mitch out there, right, So like what

578
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: you as an actor, like what you would bring to

579
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: a role would be you and I could read the

580
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: same script and brain no opposite.

581
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: Things to the world.

582
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: And I think like, as an actor, as a radio host,

583
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: as a podcast, as a presenter, as a I see

584
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: Ash London's during a book next, and you're like, m

585
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: seeing and hosting the whole thing, Like that's a whole

586
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: different skill set, but like, no one can do it

587
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: the way you're going to do it.

588
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: I know, but it's I mean, comparison is the thief

589
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: of joy. I know that, but I still fucking compare.

590
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: It always steals my fucking joy, you know.

591
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: Like I my acting coach in La always says comparison

592
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: is cancer for actresses. And she's like, you can't ever

593
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: and she's like, you've got to remember your life can

594
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: change overnight as an actor.

595
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one of those people that needs to face

596
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: a lesson to learn it. Like I feel totally I

597
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: have to. Like I only learned that going through a

598
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: really bad breakup and I was just like comparing. I

599
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: knew my ex was getting with all these men, and

600
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: I'm like it makes myself mad, like cheated on and

601
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: all that. Yeah, And I just was being I was

602
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: driving myself insane thinking about him with other people. Yeah,

603
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: and then I had a friend just be like, Babe,

604
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: comparison it's like the thief of joy, you steal your

605
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: life And I'm like, you're so right, But I wouldn't unless.

606
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: I had that experience you learn from. It wouldn't make

607
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: sense to.

608
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 3: Me on one of those idiots I have to ask.

609
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: So I just love your brain, like I am. I

610
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: feel like I get to nerd out with you right now.

611
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: But like if you and I right now could look

612
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: into a crystal ball, what would you want to be like?

613
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: And you could have any because I feel like you

614
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: are in a career where you wear many hats, like

615
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: a lot of creatives. Like I would say I'm similar

616
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: in that way, but like what would it be like?

617
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: Would you write a book? Would you be acting?

618
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 1: Would you be like obviously late night talk show hosting

619
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: is the ultimate, but the beauty of that is you

620
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: can age into it, like do you know what I mean?

621
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: Like that's something you can do like fifty sixties, you

622
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean? It's so fun to like and

623
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: it be and there.

624
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know. I want

625
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: to I want to do it all. I really want

626
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 3: to do standout so it but can we can you

627
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 3: therapize me because I'm so terrified of doing it. I've

628
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: done it and I and I did so well. We

629
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: sold it. I toured with two of my best friends,

630
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: Laura Burna and Britney Hockley. Yeah, and I had a

631
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: radio show with her from Life on Cut.

632
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: I feel like I watched all this unfold on and stuff.

633
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yes you would have. And they toured their live

634
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: show and they asked me to open with twenty minutes

635
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: to stand up. And I'd never done it before, but

636
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: I studied the theater and done comedy, and you know,

637
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I can do this, so wrote A said,

638
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: and it was great. I was like sold out State Theater,

639
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: sold out Pali Theater.

640
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: Like it was huge.

641
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, oh, I want to do it.

642
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: But then the way my brain works is like, you're

643
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 3: not good. It's not going to work, not funny, you

644
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: won't sell tickets. They're there for the girls. Like I

645
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: really struggle with that a lot, even in this period

646
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: of my life where I've got quite a bit of

647
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: free time and I'm not doing a daily radio show

648
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: or two daily radio shows. I have a concept for

649
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: a show, I've got a title, i've got the material,

650
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: but my brain's like, no one's gonna come.

651
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: You'll be oh no, okay, so I just before you

652
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: walked in this room, I interviewed. I'm pretty sure she's

653
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: the biggest author in Australia.

654
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: Her name's Canda's Fault.

655
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: She's a crime fiction, all that two hundred projection letters

656
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: and now she's like Ridley Scott just signed the right

657
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: like producing her make her recent book right. And I

658
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: was like, are we talking about the same really school

659
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: like Gladiator.

660
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: She's like yeah, Alien, yeah.

661
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: Aleen Yeah. And I said, what makes you?

662
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: She's the same age as me, She's in twenty two books,

663
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so, what's the trick, Like, what's the secret?

664
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: She's like, I'll be brave and I won't think about

665
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: the like what if this happens?

666
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: What if I foil? What if I bomb?

667
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: What if I I think, as a stand up you

668
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: have to know that you're going to bomb, and you

669
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: have to test your material out. But if you've got

670
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: that litmus from touring with those girls like that was

671
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: only last year?

672
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: Was yeah, that's pretty recent.

673
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: Twelve months ago. Yeah, I know.

674
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: But Copletely sets down to Comedy Festival.

675
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: I do know what's wrong with my head that I

676
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: do a live radio show and do bits the whole

677
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 3: show and won't a batter an eyelid and won't even

678
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: think about it till the MIC's aron doesn't bother me.

679
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: But then to do this, I don't know.

680
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 2: Here's my challenge for you. Then go back to LA

681
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: and do a stand up course.

682
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: I love to, I know I love to, and just

683
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: do like.

684
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: A six weeker, like you don't even need it, and

685
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: do that and then you'll come back with the chot

686
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: because it's almost like I think, if you do it enough,

687
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: and you know what training is like in America, like

688
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: they make you stand in the fire from class one. Usually,

689
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: if you do it enough, if you're gonna come back

690
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: and be like, all right, I've got a set. Like

691
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: you said, you've got the title, you've got the material.

692
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: It's just about jumping essentially right and not overthinking it.

693
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: I know, I know I do overthink.

694
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh so do I I can relate to that. I

695
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: have to ask you this is going to sound like

696
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a like not deep question.

697
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: But like a's your relationship with your father?

698
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: No, not like I always think creatives are incredible but

699
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: probably have a fair bit of like self doubt.

700
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you experience.

701
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: That, yes, but it really changes, like with radio, like

702
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: oh my god, never you know, like, yeah, I trusted

703
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: and I had done it for so long that it

704
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: was in fact, towards the end, I probably got a

705
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: bit lazy because I was complacent, Like I just knew

706
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: it was so easy to do radio talk underwater. I

707
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: was like, this is easy, and I've got the show.

708
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, self doubt with the things that I genuinely

709
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 3: really want to do, like acting majorly comedy, definitely self doubt,

710
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: like yeah, no, I'm riddle with it. But ebbs and flows.

711
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: I feel like you shot something with Brittany last year,

712
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: like acting wise.

713
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we shot a pilot. Yeah, yeah, well what was

714
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: all great? Great? So Britney had this concept and she

715
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: worked with writers and had it written in commissioned yes,

716
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: and then we shot the pilot. So she wrote the

717
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: role for me and her two best friends and pilot

718
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: was great. It's being shopped around. But I really enjoyed that,

719
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: but was more nervous than I'd ever been really or anything.

720
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, because you've got just get that's that

721
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: is the beauty of when you go to America. You're

722
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: just like so in it and like every second person's

723
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: writing a sitcom or a pilot or something, and you like,

724
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: I I teach yoga when I'm in La to pay

725
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: la rent because it's so flipping expensive. And I don't

726
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: think I've said this in the pod, but I've been

727
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: cast in sitcom and it was because they came from.

728
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: A yoga class.

729
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: What for hell?

730
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: Cast lit the screenwriter?

731
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Shut up? Wait down with dogs?

732
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: I want to yes, like, came to a yoga class

733
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: in La. Wait are you playing a yogat like real

734
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: sassy bussy boss? Oh?

735
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, what'scom?

736
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Tell us it's I mean, it's I know, I mean,

737
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what I can say because it's it's

738
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: it's actually the concept is so amazing. It's about two queer,

739
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: codependant brothers. Oh wow, yeah wow yeah. So it was

740
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: meant to be shot during the fires in LA, but

741
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: that shut everything down, and so it's now as soon

742
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: as I fly back ten days later, I shoot it.

743
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm so pumped. But came from teaching. Yah.

744
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: I know you're right, And you know what's so funny?

745
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: I think humans just do it. Like all my success

746
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: has come from meeting someone that's never been an application

747
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: or an audition really, So why is my brain thinking

748
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: that it has to be that way now when all

749
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: the success that I've had has been the opposite.

750
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: Also, who's your favorite stand up? Just right to them?

751
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, you're right, I know, but I

752
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: love a lot of internationals.

753
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: I know, but we've got such goodies here.

754
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: Oh we're brilliant. Yeah, but I know a lot of them.

755
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: Like Julia Morris, I think is so funny. I've had

756
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: on my know I I've had her on my show

757
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: a bunch of times, Like I've interviewed all these.

758
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Well her training. I did the same training as her

759
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: in LA. She's sitcom trained to really Leslie Khnt.

760
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's how I got into the class.

761
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: I dropped it.

762
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: I was like, Julia Morris said, I should train with you,

763
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and they're like, because in LA it's all like lists

764
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: to get in and stuff.

765
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: I got it absolutely mental, but Row that's wild. Yeah.

766
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: So like just like and here's the thing, I think

767
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: creatives know what the struggle is like, and they know

768
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: that like self doubt is part of the imposter syndrome,

769
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: It's all part of the territory. Don't ever be afraid

770
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: to like ask and be like, hey, do you know

771
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: what I mean?

772
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: I know, I do know what you mean.

773
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: I want to see a stand up show in the

774
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: next twelve months, thank you very much.

775
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: Okay, sure front you've heard it here. Am I going

776
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: to have to give you the tickets because you gave

777
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: me a hot chocolate? Not at all? Okay, not at all?

778
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: But I think, like I think, if that's something that

779
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: scares you, and that like the stand up and the acting,

780
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: like gn me, run at it, just run at it.

781
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: Like acting scar still scares the shit out of me.

782
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: But it's I And.

783
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't until I got into classes that I was like, oh,

784
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I have to sit in comedic writing.

785
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: I could never stand up, can't do improv.

786
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: But like the writing that I sit with interesting like scripted,

787
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: like sitcom.

788
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: It's so fascinat. You don't learn that unless you sit

789
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: there do it. You experience it.

790
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: There's also parts of me like I've never really spoken

791
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: about this, but you know in my career that I'm

792
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: at now and you know, I had to big shake

793
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: up with my radio shows twenty twenty four, going back

794
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: back into radio, I was like, oh, it doesn't feel

795
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: like I should be doing that really well. I can

796
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: do it with my eyes closed, like and I really

797
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: and I love it. It's so much fun. But it's

798
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: like not, it's like play for me, Like it's very

799
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 3: you want to be challenged. Yeah, yeah. And also there's

800
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: so much that I want to do and I know

801
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: that I could probably get a radio gig fingers cross God,

802
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: Like I'd love to get a radio gig, anyone would,

803
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: and I'd be very lucky to there's that humility coming in,

804
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 3: but I'm like, no, I think I should. There's definitely

805
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: a major part of me that's like now it feels

806
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: like the easy option for me.

807
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

808
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: I felt like that with books, and I took a

809
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: big break writing books for a while and dove into acting,

810
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: which was like you know, so hard, so much rejection,

811
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: so crazy and peak. Especially in Australia, people were like, no,

812
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: stain your lane. You're a nutritionist, so like if you

813
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: know that the like radio that's within you, like that's

814
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: just who you are, that's party, it's never going to

815
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: go anywhere.

816
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: Well that's exactly right. It's like the late night thing

817
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: that you touched on, Like I could slot into a

818
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: show in twenty years. In twenty years, Yes, it's there.

819
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Just yeah, I think I feel like we're just like

820
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: planning your career.

821
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: I got to get excited.

822
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: And you did mention what happened at the end of

823
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, how on earth did that?

824
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: Like rock? You didn't knock you for a six?

825
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, first of all, I didn't see it coming

826
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: at all.

827
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: Can you share a little bit just for the listener.

828
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. So I was let go from RN. So,

829
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean you heard the story of how it started.

830
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: I was there at nineteen and I was let go.

831
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: End of twenty twenty four, I was on two shows.

832
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: So I hosted my night show, The Night Show with

833
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: Mitch Cherry, which was a beautify It's my dream and

834
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: we only had it for twelve months and then we

835
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: got cut, but it is beautiful.

836
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: It gives late night talk show.

837
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: That was the breath a brief. I sent Conan's Conan's

838
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: Original and that's what we based it off. So I

839
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: had that and had like the biggest stars like Miley

840
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: Cyrus do it, but like six times, Sabrina Carpenter, everyone

841
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: would come on. It was amazing. Yeah, and then I

842
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: did the pick up, which was the Mum Show and

843
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: the ove O in Brittany and Laura, Yeah, from Life

844
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: cut and we did that for three years. And yeah,

845
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: they cut me and I was really surprised, genuinely, like shocked.

846
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: And I haven't really spoken about it, you know, I

847
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: haven't spoken about it because my podcast ended coincidentally the

848
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: week before we chose to end it, and we were

849
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: about to record a show and my co host was

850
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: sitting in this exact studio and I said, I'm going

851
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: to be twenty late. I've just got a meeting with someone.

852
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's about. And I genuinely said,

853
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: might be fired, so might not come back as a joke.

854
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: And then they got fired.

855
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: Did they give reasoning?

856
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, as much as they could.

857
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

858
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: I was told it was financial, and it was. They

859
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: have signed a big contract for Kyle and Jackie are Yeah,

860
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: another ten year deal for them, which two hundred million

861
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: over ten years, and they needed to cut costs. So

862
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: you know what, it was not just me. There was

863
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: fifty other staff members that were working. And I mean,

864
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: I'm so lucky that I can jump on and do

865
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: other shows. I can jump to another network, and I

866
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: can do social media influencing and I can do whatever whatever.

867
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: But so many staff members that are so brilliant and

868
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: so creative but are really struggling to find work. And

869
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: it was a big blow for the whole industry, but

870
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: personally really shocked because I there's probably three four other

871
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: people at the station that have been around for as

872
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: long as I have, and I'd started at nineteen and

873
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 3: I was twenty nine. So I gave yeah. But also

874
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: like I did late nights. I did nine pm till midnight,

875
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: paid forty grand a year, five nights a week. And

876
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: then I was feeling in for Kyle and Jackie O

877
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 3: when they were off, so I was starting at three am.

878
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: I'd finish at nine am. I'd sleep in the car

879
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: sometimes come back in the harbor. I live so far away.

880
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: So like, I gave a lot to the network. So

881
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: maybe that was my blind faith, thinking, well, I won't

882
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: chop me like I'd seen so many shows get chopped. Yeah,

883
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's not gonna happen to me. I'm

884
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: friends with everyone, I'm part of the furniture, the audience

885
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: know me. Aside from Kyle and JACKIEO and the work

886
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: day host, no one had been on air at the

887
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: network as long as we all had so yeah, it

888
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: was a real shock, a shock for the management too,

889
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: to be honest, like, I think decisions are made from

890
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: above that made it happen.

891
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: You shared it so beautifully. I think it was with

892
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: Brittany and Laura.

893
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you shared that really like I don't

894
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: know if you've ever watched that back or you can

895
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: watch that bad.

896
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

897
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: It's but it is like if and when you feel ready,

898
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 2: it is.

899
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: I know it's like would have felt like horrific news

900
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: to live that, but like you, you share it so

901
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: honestly and it is like sad but beautiful to watch,

902
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, thanks, and you should be

903
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: I think you should be proud of the way that

904
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: you chose to share that.

905
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 3: Well, that's the other thing, like when you I didn't

906
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: realize I'd ever been let go from my own radio show,

907
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: Like how do you deal with it? And I mean

908
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: kudos to arn for letting me stay on air genuinely,

909
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: like I have. I worked on two shows before I

910
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: got my own show, and they were both canceled and

911
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: they were walked that day and they didn't to have

912
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: another goodbuye so I got to stay on for four

913
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: weeks and have a goodbye show. And I'm very grateful

914
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: they let me do that, so yeah, kudos to them

915
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: for letting me do that, and they let me post

916
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: that online and that was social media footage that were

917
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: filmed in their studios and they didn't have to let

918
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: all that go out. So I very much you know,

919
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: had a good run there, But it was hard. That

920
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: was just that was live, that was what we said,

921
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: that's what went to air, and we found out three

922
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: days before and the girls didn't know. So it's sick

923
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: and twisted that the girls the show that we had

924
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: to pick up Britt mitche Laura only ever existed as

925
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: that their co host was just pulled from them and

926
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: they had no saying it and they have to continue

927
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 3: on doing the show. Yeah, but they want me there.

928
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: It's we were all really gutted.

929
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: Oh it sounds outbreaking, yeah, it literally.

930
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you like what following all three

931
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: of you on socials that you can feel the genuine

932
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: camaraderie and chemistry the three of you had too, and

933
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that that's often like so hard to find

934
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: in a radio your show or a great pod or

935
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

936
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: And I think that like what the.

937
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Three of you had, Like I hope you guys will

938
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: do stuff together.

939
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah we will. Yeah, Well I'm em seeing BRIT's wedding

940
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: in a couple of months, so that's that's private, but

941
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: I'll instagram live it if you want to watch it.

942
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: But like just but also there's like you know, Kim,

943
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: people are dying. Like it's not that it's in the

944
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: big scheme of things. I'm fine, It's all good and

945
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: actually probably needed to happen. Like I'm lazy in my

946
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: bones and I got I was not complacent. I did

947
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: two shows every day. I was exhausted, but like I

948
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: wasn't doing anything else. I wasn't following the comedy dreams

949
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 3: or the improm or the stand up or the acting.

950
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: So the universe has ways of like pushing you out

951
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: of your comfort zone. And you know, if I had

952
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: never left, if I'd never been pushed out, I would

953
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: never have left.

954
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Totally, totally, totally, totally well then far out. Not to

955
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: get hippie on you, but like maybe like this is

956
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: all and if and when you go and train in La,

957
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I've got the best acting coach for you.

958
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: I would genuinely love it. I really would love her.

959
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say in recently, I'm going to

960
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: send it to you. She teaches freedom as an actor. Wow,

961
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: and so like if you're doing a script, whether it's

962
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: heavy light media like comedy, she'll just be like I

963
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: need to feel Mitch in it like and teaches you

964
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: how to bring you without you being like, well, this

965
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: is my interpretation of.

966
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: Good because that's where acting loses me. And that's a

967
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: Atlantic Theater company, which is, oh my god, it's a

968
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: whole thing. It's Mammett like David Mammett and William H.

969
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: Macy co owns the school. So it's it's very intention based,

970
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 3: like you need an intention on an intention, Like what's

971
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: your intention? I don't know, but fucking tension headache, Like

972
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: it's it's intense. It didn't really work for me in

973
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: that sense.

974
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you love this teacher teaches like Sam

975
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Rockwell and like it's all it's a little bit more miisonery.

976
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: So you learn by wrote, you learn by wrote, and

977
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: then you literally do all the work, chuck it away

978
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: and then just show up.

979
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that.

980
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: And she's an on set acting coach, so nose like

981
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: but we'll talk often between directors and actors. Oh, so

982
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: you as a student get to just learn this skill

983
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: of like what the prep I get to do in

984
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: the trailer? How much like how much time do I

985
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: get to reset when everyone's talking in video village and

986
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: going to give me feedback?

987
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: And I'm I going to get that? Like it's so

988
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: fascinating you.

989
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: Kind of don't even really think that that's what happens.

990
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: Like that, there can be acting coaches like that. Some

991
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: of the biggest actors in the world will have people

992
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: there for them, right.

993
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes shows will bring on coaches.

994
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: Is that like a red flag? Like, hey, we've brought

995
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: this coach on. We think you need it.

996
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think it'll just be like sometimes

997
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: big budgets and we'll be like, all right, we want

998
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: to have a coach that can speak between director and

999
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: actors and like bridge that gap. Because some directors you

1000
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: would know this for sure, but some directors are like

1001
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: actors directors. They'll be like, Mitch, I love what you're

1002
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: doing here, can you just give it a little bit

1003
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: more like to persuade or whatever, like change the verb,

1004
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, Whereas like some will

1005
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: just be like, give you the weirdest note and you're.

1006
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: Like, the fuck do they work with that?

1007
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1008
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for this next phase.

1009
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah me too. Let's talk because I really want I've

1010
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: I've got time on my hands, and I'm thinking a

1011
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: trip to LA would be amazing. Well, replacing the world.

1012
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: Really do you love about it?

1013
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: Place in the world. I've been then nine ten times,

1014
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: like just traveling. What I love about it? I'm like

1015
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: an entertainment kid. I love the Hollywood of it all. Yeah,

1016
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: I also love the hills. There's something about the hills

1017
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: that are Like when the La fires happened, I was like,

1018
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: really really upset.

1019
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Because I was living that. That was wild.

1020
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah not so yeah, my god, your poor thing, But like,

1021
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: are you in the hills? Where are you?

1022
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: Base of the hills?

1023
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: So we we've got a rooftop and we could see

1024
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: the Pacific Palisades from one side and Pasaden and from

1025
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: the other. And I went up at sunrise and the

1026
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: sky was black and orange.

1027
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 2: It was mental. But yeah, I imagine.

1028
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: If you've got an affiliation with LA you would have

1029
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: felt that. And it had a huge effect on the

1030
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: entertainment industry when it happened, but it.

1031
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Was is yeah, just such a beast.

1032
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: But I think also you if you love La and

1033
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: these are your dreams, and not that I'm here to

1034
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: coach you, by the way, please do but like you

1035
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: can like get.

1036
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: On all those sets like you're Jimmy Kimmel taping.

1037
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 3: Oh trust me, okay, I'll get my punch cut out.

1038
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: Been to Kimmel twice, I've been to Conan four times.

1039
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: I've never seen Jimmy fallon neither of I so hard

1040
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: and such a small theater. I've been in the theater,

1041
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: I've been to the SNL theater. I've seen whoever. I've

1042
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: never seen Colbert. I never seen let him and miss him.

1043
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: He wasn't my time. That's sad. But the SNL of

1044
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: it all is also another aspect. Like grew up watching

1045
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: SNL thinking like this is it? Like this is so cool.

1046
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: There's so much talent in Australia for there to be

1047
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: a sketch comedy show. That's another discussion about why that

1048
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 3: wouldn't work or couldn't work. I think Tall Poppy really

1049
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: fucks creatives in this country.

1050
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: Americans literally don't know what it means. It's like tall poppy.

1051
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, poppy.

1052
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I interviewed Will not will On Nett from Oh God,

1053
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: what's he? And he's in a stand show on stan

1054
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: I'll think of his name. He was at the Logis

1055
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: for whatever reason with Darcy Cardon, who's comedian and she

1056
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: actress's free from and I'm like, oh god, guys, like,

1057
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: what's it? What's it like being at the Logis? It's

1058
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: so shit compared to the Emmy's like having a laugh,

1059
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: like it's so Darrow and morell Bogan And she was

1060
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: like can you stop for a second. She's like, dude,

1061
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: like we've learned this new phrase tall poppy.

1062
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is cool.

1063
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: You've got a red carp Like was like, shut up,

1064
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: you know, like they even they hate the concept, like

1065
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: what is wrong with you? Why do you punch down?

1066
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1067
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: And that's what I think as well, Like I love

1068
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: that you've got this like humble side of you, but

1069
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: I think you've also got to celebrate yourself. You've done

1070
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: so much. You've already lived a career that people would

1071
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: dream of having, and now it's like you're only twenty nine.

1072
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: How cool?

1073
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: But I yeah, I know I'm dating a twenty two

1074
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: year old. So I'm like, fuck old, you know, I'm.

1075
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh please please I can if I as your elder,

1076
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: Oh god, enjoy like so fun and so much shit

1077
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: happens in your thirties, like so much cool shit, and

1078
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: you figure out who you are and you like, like

1079
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: it's it's just like you know your values and morals

1080
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: so well that you figure out what you're willing to

1081
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: bend and flex on, and then you'll figure out what

1082
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: you're willing to say no to yes. And I think,

1083
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: like for you as a stand up that's going to

1084
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: be really important.

1085
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah. Do you want to hear the title

1086
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: of the show, yes, all right, So it's Radio Killed

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00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: the Radio Star. Amazing great title, right, great, And it's

1088
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 3: everything that happened in ten years of hosting the commercial

1089
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: radio show. It's the stuff that it's wild. Like I

1090
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: just posted this clip to TikTok. You probably haven't seen.

1091
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: I'll send it to you. Yeah, but it's when I

1092
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: interviewed Miley cyrul No.

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00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: I watched it. That was my next question and I

1094
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: let her.

1095
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: Into the Zoom interview early and you sneak snapchat my

1096
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: family like batchat to Miley, and she said and it's real.

1097
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: She just sits there. She's like, helloy voice like a

1098
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: frog and U but like there are so many moments

1099
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: like that. But like I've got I can see it

1100
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: in my head. You got the audio visual. Yeah, I've

1101
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: got this whole bit that celebrities just could not, for

1102
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: the life of them, get my name right, Katy Perry,

1103
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: and you get things called id's in the radio industry,

1104
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: which is like, you know, they say your name hates

1105
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: Katy Perry and I'm I'm with Lola Perry failing. So

1106
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 3: she set it through and she's like, hey, I'm Katy

1107
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: Perry and I'm with my good friend Mitch churreal like

1108
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: just gets my name so confidently wrong. My good friend

1109
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Mitch Churrel Kate Miller Hyde Kid did one in the

1110
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 3: last few months, and she thought I was a radio duo.

1111
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: She's like, good, ay, I'm with my good pal, good

1112
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 3: pals Mitch and chury No, like a wacky radio duo

1113
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: Mitch and chury No. Yeah. I've got so many of

1114
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: visible audiographs, so you know I can. It's just a

1115
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: lot there.

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00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: I have to say. I watched the full Miley interview.

1117
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like you are such.

1118
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: A natural at just like ver nice, you meet people

1119
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: and you order madly. I felt like it made me

1120
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: think two things about you. One you must research. So

1121
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: when you tell me you're complacent, I think that's BS.

1122
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the humble, weird thing coming from talking

1123
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: down thing. No, that is like, and you can meet

1124
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: people really like, you meet them where they are, and

1125
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: I think that's probably through being an incredible radio host

1126
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: and pod host and all of that. And I think

1127
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: the combo of that and obviously you don't being a comic.

1128
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: You don't take yourself seriously.

1129
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, any kind of fire it kind of negates it

1130
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: straight away as well.

1131
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: No, it's so.

1132
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: Fun because I loved watching that interview and I was like,

1133
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: it's like Miley is, like, that'd be pretty intimidating walking

1134
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: into an interview like that.

1135
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah it was yeah from my living room too,

1136
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: or from my spare room. It was the middle of COVID,

1137
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: yeah as well. Yeah, the l and now I posted

1138
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: to TikTok and the top comment is like, I love

1139
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: how immediately disarmed she was when she realized you were gay,

1140
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: because there's this moment where I'm like, these are my

1141
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: boyfriend's vinyls and she goes yeah, and her energy changes.

1142
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: She's like, yes you faget, Oh my god, really brutal,

1143
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: like okay, but sure, go off, queen.

1144
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: I love it.

1145
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: But she was so much like she kind of shoulders relaxed. Yeah,

1146
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: she loves the guys. It was very funny, and she like.

1147
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: Really wanted to connect. You could feel the connect and

1148
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: she wouldn't like whatever you said. She would make sure

1149
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: she like met you, when heard you and you know

1150
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, Yeah.

1151
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: I know what you mean. There was one other that

1152
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: was really that was like that that I remember thinking, oh,

1153
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: I did a good job, like I'm really proud of this,

1154
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: and that was Billie Eilish. I interviewed Billy when she

1155
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: was in Sydney face to face and her mum was

1156
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: there and a best friend were there, and I met

1157
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: her brother and it was like, she's so cool and

1158
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: it was one of those interviews. It didn't the best,

1159
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 3: like I think it's like one hundred and eighty million views,

1160
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, something ridiculous, like on YouTube somewhere and

1161
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: it gets ripped by everyone like that. All the fan

1162
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: accounts steal it so it would be everywhere. But it

1163
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: was one of those interviews that did really well and

1164
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: I was so proud of it and it was like,

1165
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: oh god, that's fun. But then to your point, like

1166
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: I think, like I know I can do that. I

1167
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: want to do something different.

1168
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: You know, you could look, here's one thing.

1169
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: As your elder, you can do it all, Like you

1170
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: can do stand up and have a great radio show

1171
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: and be working on the world's best talk show eever,

1172
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: do you know.

1173
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: What I mean?

1174
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: Like, do you have a pitch for your talk show?

1175
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: Do you have you have anything anything?

1176
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I've written so many pitch pitch decks

1177
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: I reckon. I probably sit more in like yeah, daytime

1178
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: lifestyle a bit of like Drew Barrymore meets the non

1179
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: problematic Alan, you know, like so good, light, fun, warm,

1180
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: like I'm very warm all that stuff. But I but

1181
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: like I nerd out over like and I know you

1182
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: would just give me your punch card of all the

1183
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: amazing shows you've been to. But I have to say,

1184
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people don't like any

1185
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: but seeing James Corden record live was incredible, brilliant.

1186
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: One take.

1187
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: Can I say James Corden has one fan on this earth?

1188
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: It's me, me.

1189
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Too, No, and like like in between takes we'll be like, guys,

1190
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: what do you want to know? And like spent so

1191
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: much time as you go to a lot where you

1192
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: don't get that audience interaction some ag.

1193
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he is such an entertainer. He's really good.

1194
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: And so what the guy gets a bit tired like

1195
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, you would too, just two kids, you know.

1196
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: I have a lot of time for James Corden. I mean,

1197
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: if he's a bastard, you know, I'm sure sure, I

1198
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: don't know, yes, And I'm talking about his skill set.

1199
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 3: I think he's very very good. You know his I

1200
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: went to James Corden twice once saw him brilliant. Second

1201
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: time it was when his son was born and they

1202
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: had a fill in host and they didn't announce who

1203
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: it was, and I was like, this is random. Got

1204
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: the ticket? Was cool? Get there it's Harry Styles. No, yeah,

1205
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 3: it's the it's the episode that Harry Styles hosted and

1206
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: he had Kendall genneron for Fill Your Guts or Spill

1207
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: Your Guts where they did the gross ship and now

1208
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: they were exites they dated. It's got millions and millions

1209
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: of views and I was there in the audience and

1210
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is insanity that I'm here right now.

1211
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think I flew out that night or

1212
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: it was like such a chaotic event to make it happen.

1213
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, nice sow Harry do it.

1214
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's such a that's such a They're those

1215
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: moments where you're like and I love la.

1216
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, and then you come back to Sydney and

1217
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 3: it's like, oh god, you know, come and away on again,

1218
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, write the projects on love it. But it's

1219
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 3: all the same.

1220
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: I have to ask. I could talk to you all

1221
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: day long.

1222
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: But final question is somebody that like aspires to be

1223
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: like you, like someone that wants to work in radio

1224
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: or wants to be creative or wants to do Like,

1225
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: what advice have you got because it like I think

1226
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: like you do have that beautiful, like romantic story of

1227
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: like I was a radio kid, I got into radio.

1228
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: But like for someone now like wanting to work in

1229
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, what would you say?

1230
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've got two answers. First answer is

1231
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: post on TikTok really yeah, genuinely yes, Yeah, start posting, Okay, seriously,

1232
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: don't start a podcast, just post on TikTok. And that's one.

1233
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 3: But two is I think really try to lead with authenticity.

1234
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: I think that that is like what it's the content

1235
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: that people want on any platform like you can you

1236
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 3: think podcasts, you think radio, TV, social media, like people

1237
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 3: just want authenticity, right, even with acting, right, I mean

1238
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: basically it's you want an authentic performance. You want to

1239
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: feel like real human. I just think, like, just don't

1240
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: try to be anyone, don't try to just just be

1241
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: you like it's I think that is the best advice, seriously,

1242
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: because I wasn't trying to emulate anyone in my early days.

1243
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: Like you just you go in and you be you.

1244
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: I think that's it. But genuinely posted TikTok because like god,

1245
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 3: the cash that's out there for influencing and not influencing,

1246
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: but just post vlog your life.

1247
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,479
Speaker 2: It's bad.

1248
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: Long form content's back, baby. People want this episode in

1249
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: full on YouTube. You know, people want lots of content

1250
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: and just start.

1251
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: Posting all right, I love it, thank you, my friend,

1252
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: and can we now be friends please?

1253
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: I think so. I think we were at the start, man,

1254
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: I mean, what was this whole thing if we weren't

1255
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: friends totally. I had so much fine, thank.

1256
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: You and I want to hang when you're next to

1257
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: our line, I'd love.

1258
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah, yeah, well connect, I get your number.

1259
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: We'll go to we're taping like a late show tape.

1260
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: Now we're going on a sugarfish Man and we're sitting

1261
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: there until Conan O'Brien walks.

1262
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: In a little from Colin A and b Ye, thank you,

1263
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: my friend, thanks for having me.

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00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1265
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram.

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00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm at Yamo Lullerberry. This potty my word.

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Speaker 1: For podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

1269
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rape and comment, and of

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00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: course spread the love.