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Speaker 1: What a real change of pace right now, because we

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Speaker 1: know Master Builders NT have welcomed the Federal government's decision

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Speaker 1: and streamline reforms aimed at boosting housing supply. Now the

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Speaker 1: Commonwealth has also fast tracked its first home by a

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Speaker 1: deposit scheme which would see people only need a five

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Speaker 1: so three months earlier than what they'd promised at the

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Speaker 1: federal election. So there is no doubt that some of

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Speaker 1: these changes could have an impact on our industry here

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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory. And joining me in the studio

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Speaker 1: right now, Master Builders CEO Sallyanne Innes, Good morning to you, Hi, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you on the show now, Saliane. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: why are the master Builders supporting this pause to non

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Speaker 1: essential changes to the National Code.

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Speaker 2: Well, cantie to start off with the National Code across

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Speaker 2: Austraya obviously, but it's where with a housing accord it's

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Speaker 2: in place. We really need to see that productivity increase

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Speaker 2: and we want to see territories at homes, so we're

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Speaker 2: really pleased that all those non essential regulations won't be enforced.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean the safety. They have guaranteed the safety.

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Speaker 2: So what we really want to do is you know,

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Speaker 2: get territories into homes faster, and you know, have that

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Speaker 2: made easier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I suppose at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: like our builders here in the Northern Territory, and I'm

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, absolutely, and you know, territory builders great like

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Speaker 2: no issues and they will be the first to stand

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Speaker 2: up and say we need to implement those should there

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Speaker 2: be those safety concerns. So no problems with that. It

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Speaker 2: is those non essential ones that are that just you know,

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Speaker 2: increase things around compliance for builders, which increases costs and

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So to pause them between now

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Speaker 2: and the end of the house accord just makes sense. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I would assume as well, you know, the different

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Speaker 1: to what it is, like you said, if you're building

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and we're not talking about commercial. We are

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Speaker 2: talking about residential, so we are talking about you know,

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Speaker 2: certainly a lot of those new houses that are coming

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Speaker 2: want to get more of those built. We want to

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Speaker 2: need to come and experience this incredible lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, we want plenty of people living here. In

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Speaker 1: terms of some of the challenges that the construction industry

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Speaker 1: how are things tracking from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great. Look, I probably wouldn't be the first

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Speaker 2: it's and again I'll go back to these first home

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Speaker 1: Hey in terms of you know, in terms of the

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Speaker 2: Well, I'd like to think of it in a different way,

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's a really positive thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are we seeing, like how how is our workforce going?

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Speaker 1: I spose sally An. You know, like we talk about,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, build it and they will come. Yeah kind

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Speaker 2: And we really like some of the you know, there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even like our young ones coming up through

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Speaker 1: And that was something I thought that was really interesting,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and it's such a great thing to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it is a good thing. So more broadly

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. The first Home BIASGRINT has been great. There's over

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Speaker 2: but it's also the direct and indirect result of those

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Speaker 2: having an effect everywhere. Yeah, so you know, bring in

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Speaker 1: And then what about when you look at more of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's there's a couple of cranes around and

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Speaker 2: there is you know, it would be good to have

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Speaker 2: bit of a lull, but it's a great opportunity now.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'd really like to see the government sort

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Speaker 2: They released a snapshot about three or four weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: There was a little bit in that, but you know,

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Speaker 2: we've got capacity and we want more well.

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Speaker 1: Master Builders Mt CEO Sally an Ines really good to

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Speaker 1: speak to you this morning. I appreciate your time, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming into the studio.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you