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Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, the Australian Diamonds lost the Commonwealth Game's.

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Speaker 1: While the Diamonds have tasted plenty of successes since, it

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Speaker 1: was that one goal loss that's continued to motivate Liz

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Speaker 1: Watson ever since. Liz is now in her fifth year

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Speaker 1: as captain of Australia's netball team, the Dunce. Along the way,

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Speaker 1: she steered the ship through some of the team's toughest times,

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Speaker 1: from negotiating a new collective player agreement to fronting Immedia

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Speaker 1: scrum amid the Hancock Prospecting sponsorship saga, but she's also

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Speaker 1: led the side to some of its best successes on court,

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Speaker 1: including consecutive gold medals at the Commonwealth Games and Netball

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Speaker 1: World Cup. Welcome back to the Female Athlete Project. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sophie and I'm the producer here at teavapp.

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Speaker 1: This week, Chloe sat down with Liz as the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five Supernetball season heats up and her Suntime Goes

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Speaker 1: Lightning are on the verge of a finals berth Listen.

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Speaker 1: Chloe chat everything from being picked for her first women's

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Speaker 1: team to making the decision to move halfway across the country.

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Speaker 1: More than a decade into her netball career, Liz has

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Speaker 1: recently not stopped her one hundred and fifty Son Corps

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Speaker 1: Supernetball game and doesn't look like slowing down anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 2: Liz Watson, Welcome to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It's just so excited. We've been a big

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Speaker 3: fan for a long time, so.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've been trying to line this up

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Speaker 3: I know it's worked out so well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's awesome because I think we have

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Speaker 2: tried to move towards like doing podcasts more in person.

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Speaker 2: I like the idea of like virtual obviously for athletes

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Speaker 2: as well who are inter state and doing all their things,

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Speaker 2: but it's so much nicer to do it in person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And we're playing here tomorrow. Yes, that well, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: We always start by going back to childhood. Yeah, can

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Speaker 2: you describe yourself as a little kid.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've got two brothers, so it was just lots

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Speaker 4: I've got two brothers, so right, very much. They would say,

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Speaker 4: But I feel like it was such a such a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Where did the love for sport come from?

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Speaker 4: It probably started just to my immediate family first and foremost.

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Speaker 4: It's actually you know, it's in olphetical order, which kind

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I know it's that is just like no

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, let's make it positive about it. When

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you've got that first phone call to

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Speaker 2: how did that feel?

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Speaker 3: Oh, like it's the best.

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Speaker 4: Like it's such a weird feeling, like you still remember

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Speaker 4: Just to say you're playing for your country just sounds

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Speaker 4: And then you don't really realize. And I totally get

442
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,679
Speaker 4: when athletes say.

443
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 2: That, who was your first phone call to you found out?

444
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 4: Mum always mum, Mum and dad. So yeah, and they

445
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 4: booked flights. It was actually in the UK the first trip.

446
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:08,400
Speaker 2: Dad.

447
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,800
Speaker 3: Well, they had been of holidays. They loved it, but.

448
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so special. Mum puts a big family

449
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 4: dinner on straight away.

450
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 3: Love that, Love that yeah good.

451
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and your progression through the Diamonds prior to talking

452
00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 2: about your leadership role, Like what was your progression like

453
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 2: to really like solidify your place in that group and

454
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: a group that has like a very very strong history.

455
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 2: And also Netbull is like just so cutthroat, yeah, because

456
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,399
Speaker 2: of like how many people are on the court and

457
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 2: on the bench, Like it's so cutthroat to solidify your

458
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 2: place there.

459
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I think you obviously go through cabs and

460
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 4: tours and when you first start, you might get into

461
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 4: the twelve and then it's like wanting to get onto

462
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 4: the court and like usually well when I was playing,

463
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 4: debuts were like, well you're either twenty goals up or

464
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 4: twenty goals down, like you're going to get on really losing. Yeah,

465
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 4: So probably got little bits and pieces like that, and

466
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 4: then I don't know, I feel like we'll build in

467
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 4: towards our World Cup and come off games. And I

468
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 4: must have seen something in me and Maddie Brown as well,

469
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 4: she was the wing attack too, So yeah, I don't

470
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 4: I don't know when it kind of happened, but I

471
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 4: think you just got little bits and prize, I don't

472
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,239
Speaker 4: know throughout the time and then eventually something's clicked and

473
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 4: it sort of stays.

474
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: But even now, like you just can't be safe and

475
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: you don't know that you're going to be there and.

476
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 4: People say, yeah, but you're the captain, like you're going

477
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 4: to I'm like, yeah, but like you don't understand, like

478
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 4: the especially the mid court. Yeah, not to sound biases

479
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 4: the mid court, but we talk about it all the time,

480
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,719
Speaker 4: how intense the mid court of the Diamonds is at

481
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 4: the moment, how competitive it is, but how we're all

482
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: really good friends and it's the weirdest dynamic but it

483
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 4: just works, like it's really great.

484
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,719
Speaker 2: What do you think the guest challenge in your career

485
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: has been to date.

486
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: Or definitely the Hancock situation.

487
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, as an.

488
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 4: Off court perspective, probably that In the leadership role, I

489
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 4: think it was just yeah, it was just it was

490
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 4: not just Netbak news. It was like national news and

491
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 4: something I've never ever experienced. And being in a past

492
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 4: athletes as well, like they would say the same thing

493
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 4: banker and girls who I'm still friends with in the

494
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: netbill environment, it just yeah, it became a lot, a

495
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 4: lot lot bigger than what we all expected, I guess.

496
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 4: But I think the hardest part of it all was

497
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 4: we were on a tour where it wasn't happening for

498
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 4: your posts going away. We're literally at camp heading away

499
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 4: to play, which is probably the toughest part because you

500
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: want to perform. Yeah, yeah, be there for your organization,

501
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 4: for your teammates, like the whole range of things really.

502
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: And there was that press conference where you had to

503
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: walk out and you were the first player to speak out.

504
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: Is that right to the media, yes, yeah, and you

505
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: just were like getting questions by and like that's brutal. Yeah,

506
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: what was that experience?

507
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: Like that was?

508
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Usually that was our captain's run, so a day

509
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: before a game and usually you get a little bit

510
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 4: of media there, like one or three reporters.

511
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: There was like ten to fifteen, and I was like,

512
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: I've never seen half of you. We're just going to

513
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: pretend that everything's okay.

514
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 4: And it was me and Dylan next Tom, who was

515
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 4: the captain of the men's team, because they were both

516
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: they were also playing the next day, and I think

517
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 4: it was the first time I realized like what the

518
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 4: media can do and the beast that some of you know,

519
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: some of it is and to get kept getting the

520
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: same question asked in a different way to get some

521
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 4: sort of answer. So I think I went in really prepared,

522
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: and you know, the media lady at the Diamonds was awesome.

523
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: It sort of helping me navigate. Obviously we're not trying

524
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: to hide anything. We want to be very open, but

525
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: we're also getting ready to play a game, like let's

526
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 4: talk about that. Yeah, it was a lot, but I

527
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 4: think we're kind of always expecting it, Like when we

528
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: got off the plane, we were so there could be

529
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 4: media there, like just be pair sort of thing, but

530
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: it was. It was a lot, and I just remember

531
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: walking straight off and Stacy West at the time just

532
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: kind of like held me under her Wow, just like

533
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: sort of pushed.

534
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: Me back stage.

535
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 4: But I just sort of broke down and I was like,

536
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've done don't know what, you know,

537
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: you just question everything the right thing?

538
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: Do I do the right thing? Am I? I'm I'm

539
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: very honest, Like I'm not trying to you know, I'm

540
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: trying to put the best foot forward for this group.

541
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 4: But I felt like at that point in time, anything

542
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 4: that you said someone was going to come at you

543
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: at something with some angle. So it was probably just

544
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: a sense of relief as well. I was like, thank gosh,

545
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 4: that's done, sort of thing like yeah, let's just get

546
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: to plane. And then game day was the best because

547
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: no one could speak, but it actually became like this

548
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 4: running joke like let's just get to game day to

549
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 4: talk to anyone.

550
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing, nothing to worry about.

551
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 4: And actually going to New Zealand, the silver Ferns and

552
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: the New Zealand media were really really respectful of what

553
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: was happening. Yeah, and they didn't really push us all,

554
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 4: which was yeah, great. They were great, great people and

555
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 4: really respect that at that time.

556
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, that's also really good. Do you feel like

557
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: that's something that brought the group together. I feel like,

558
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: from like I guess an outsider's perspective, I feel like

559
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: the playing group in Netbul always seems very unified.

560
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: Yep, yes, oh yes, absolutely it did.

561
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 4: It's sort of it happened at CAM That's when we

562
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 4: first we're having discussions about everything, and then from that

563
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 4: moment forward we were like we want to look after

564
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 4: each other that tour, but then also going forward and

565
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: I think it just showed like we just wanted to

566
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: go out and play and do well and above everything else,

567
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: that was the biggest thing.

568
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: Like, this is going to take care of itself. We'll

569
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: figure it out.

570
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: But the best thing we can do as a group

571
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 4: right now is just go out and play well and

572
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 4: show that nothing is effecting. We can't always say we

573
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: work better when we're underpressure. Yeah, flying yeah on the so, yeah,

574
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 4: it was good for us. Yeah, And what was that challenge?

575
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Like, obviously you're fronting media over a really difficult like

576
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: athletes have been through obviously different things, I guess over time,

577
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: but that's a pretty difficult thing for you as a

578
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: captain to step up and face the media. But you

579
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: then also have to lead your group, as you say,

580
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: like four game day and get people pumped up and

581
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: probably have the right amount of acknowledgment about what's going

582
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: on and how that might be impacting different individuals within

583
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: the group. Yeah, but also be motivating them to play.

584
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was tricky, and I think Steph would

585
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 4: well now, but she was the vice captain at the

586
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 4: time and was the biggest support and we kind of

587
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: just said, all right, what do.

588
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: We need to share the group?

589
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 4: Yep? Good, what doesn't have to be shared. Great, Like

590
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: it's not because we don't want to, but it's just

591
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 4: like we don't want to. Because the response from the

592
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: group us was like are you okay? Like what can

593
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 4: we do?

594
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Can we help you? Like we didn't want that.

595
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: We're we're fine, like we've got support, but because we're

596
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 4: such a caring group, that was their first response, like, yeah,

597
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: how can we help you? Like, what do you need

598
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: to do?

599
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: Just play? That's all we need to do, That's what

600
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: we need to think about.

601
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: So and I think they just took inspiration from that,

602
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: like they understood that Steph and I and Joe western

603
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: as well. We're having conversations and doing what need to

604
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 4: do and knowing that yep, if they are getting asked things,

605
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 4: I can speak freely and openly and there's nothing to hide.

606
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 3: Yeah.

607
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we had Joe on the podcast a couple

608
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: of months ago, and she obviously showed some amazing insight

609
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: around the whole CBA or you guys are CPA CBA,

610
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: you guys one of them. What was that experience like

611
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: from your perspective going through.

612
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, Yeah, it was weird again, just so strange

613
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 4: and just to see the impact it actually had on

614
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: just people's day to day life, Like it wasn't about netball.

615
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: It was about rent and bills and those a lot

616
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: of things moving into state you don't have family support,

617
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: Like how they were real things happening in real time.

618
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: So Joe Western and Tara from the Lightning as well,

619
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: like they just did an incredible job of just keeping

620
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 4: us updated. But yeah, but they just they couldn't give

621
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 4: like the final answer because it was still just it

622
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 4: was just up in the air.

623
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: It was horrible.

624
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Limbo was horrible.

625
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 4: But I think the way we sort of held on

626
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: and held on and like let it go, Like I

627
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 4: think it definitely has made us sport in a better position.

628
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 4: But it took lots of courage and just trust in

629
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: the in amper to know as well, like what we're

630
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 4: doing is the right thing. We want to push your

631
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: sport forward, Like this is a.

632
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: Pivotal moment in time. You know.

633
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: We kept hearing that, which was great and it has been.

634
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: But just yeah, especially like the young girls coming through,

635
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: like the day to day trying to find like little

636
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: jobs or things just for like yeah, yeah, which was hard,

637
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 4: so hard, and off the back.

638
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: Of that, off you guys holding your ground and creating

639
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: better conditions for you and hopefully future plays as well.

640
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: What are the biggest differences that you guys have to

641
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: impact your day to day and training and lives and

642
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: things like that.

643
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're definitely becomeing more professional. I think

644
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: lots of the girls are working or studying, but also

645
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 4: they want to do that too. But I think the

646
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: time we're spent at the club, like the access we

647
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: have to resources, the way the game's grown on a

648
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: broadcast level as well, and the interest we're having that

649
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: There's so many things, and obviously we are building to

650
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: our World Cup and what's to come. But I think

651
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: you can see that SSN is a comp that everybody wants.

652
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: To play in.

653
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: It's sort of like if you play netball around the world,

654
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 4: like you want to try to get it to SSN

655
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: and it's great, Like it's so cool to know that

656
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: you are playing in the best comp in the world.

657
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: It's attracting so many international players. Young girls are looking

658
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: at it and wanting to get there. So yeah, it's definitely.

659
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: It was a good just tough.

660
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: Time, but it was like what it had to be,

661
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: and yeah, we're here now.

662
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 2: And looking again at your I guess ten years captain

663
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: of the Diamonds and the success that you've had fire

664
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 2: like COMM Games and World Cup, and then obviously you're

665
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: preparing for that home World Cup that we'll chat about.

666
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: What do you think has made you successful as a

667
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: leader but also as a group, what what has made

668
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: you guys perform to that level.

669
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we speak a lot about shared ownership and it's

670
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: not just something we throw around.

671
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: We actually mean it and we have to live by it.

672
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: And you know, if you look across the Diamond squad,

673
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: almost everyone is in a captain or vice capital or

674
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: leadership role position.

675
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: Across their local interesting their clubs as well.

676
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: So the clubs, you know, they've got the experience, so

677
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: there's no so you have to lead on that and

678
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: use that. And I think, you know, we set things

679
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: up where girls who are passionate about something can take

680
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: that whatever it is. But actually the shared ownership and

681
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: the squad mentality is huge and there's no way that

682
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: we could have won that without the squad. And I'll

683
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: talk about like Jamie Lee Price and Kate Maloney. Jamie

684
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: wasn't there at the COMM Games the following year, Kate

685
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: wasn't there at the World Cup.

686
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: They kind of switch positions, but.

687
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 4: The support and the love they had for each other

688
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: to just know, yep, like you're here at the com

689
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: off games, I'm gonna spport you and then vice versa,

690
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: Like it's so incredible to see. And I think just

691
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: the way we attack trainings at camp and match play,

692
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: like I've never experienced a match as intense as when

693
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: we play against each other. And that's going to the

694
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: data and the GPS and everything as well, like our

695
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: S and C coach says that this is just so

696
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 4: intense and the level is so high that you're going

697
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: to be prepared for any test match that comes your way.

698
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: You play SSN, you're used to those big crowds, close games,

699
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff gets you ready for it.

700
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: But the way we attack each other at trade, it's

701
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: a lot, but we just walk off and say yeah,

702
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 4: like we know that that's how it has to be.

703
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: And some of our worst training sessions happen the last

704
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: one before or the come off games. I remember it

705
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 4: was like, oh.

706
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: Like, we don't know what's happening.

707
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: Everyone's a bit on edge, but it just had to happen,

708
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: and everyone knows that.

709
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the weirdest thing.

710
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: You walk off and then you go all get coffee

711
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: together and it's yeah, oh gosh.

712
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: That stresses me out. You're like, oh, like the more

713
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: you think about it feels like it just keeps getting worse.

714
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: And you're like, it's like, are we meant to be

715
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: like playing well right now? Because we're about to play.

716
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: At the games, we always have this battle between our

717
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: attack and defense. So should a supply and defensive pressure

718
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: and whoever wins that? So even after every training session

719
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: that we're going up and saying who who won that

720
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: training session and we're like, just chill, it's just training.

721
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's how competitive that the group is. And yeah,

722
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: the coaches as well. Yeah, so it's a healthy, healthy

723
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: environment for that.

724
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: And from like learning to have difficult conversations point of view,

725
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: you talked about being like more of a shy kid.

726
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: How have you developed because having hard conversations is hard,

727
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: and managing people as a leader, Yeah, in what's quite

728
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: a close knit environment, how have you progressed those skills?

729
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it takes a lot.

730
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: I think obviously the biggest thing I can do first

731
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: and foremost is be a good person. To everyone and

732
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: build genuine relationships and genuine trust with everybody, so you

733
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: can have those and it doesn't feel like, oh, Liz,

734
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: the captain is coming to talk to me about something

735
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: like what could this be about?

736
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: It's just a conversation. And I think I'm always approaching.

737
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: It with if something's going on with someone or you

738
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: notice something about them, like just ask them straight out,

739
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: like is there something you need to.

740
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: Talk to us about? Or is there something that I

741
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: can help you with?

742
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: More so than I've noticed this, it's like, tell me

743
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: what's going on, because sometimes it might be something that's

744
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: happening at home and we're on GIO for five or

745
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: six weeks and you've got families and everything happening at

746
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: home and that could affect your performance. So those sort

747
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: of things, I think leaning on people. You know, you've

748
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: obviously got close relationships with other people. You know, we've

749
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: got best friends in the group and teammates and stuff.

750
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: So even go into them and say, hey, can you

751
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: help me out with this, like how do you think

752
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: we should tackle something like this? Like not feeling like

753
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: I just need to go with the bad cop and

754
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: just have a conversation. It's like we can work it

755
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: out together sort of thing.

756
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah like that.

757
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's yeah, like you said, they aren't easy,

758
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: especially when you're friends.

759
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: And you want to have a fun and like you're great.

760
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: We don't want people to feel stressed when they're there

761
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: because performance is stressful enough.

762
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: So everything off the court to be at more relaxed

763
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: and fun than Yeah. Yeah, yeah, let's.

764
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Chat about your move up north. So you're the Victims

765
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: for almost ten years, is that right?

766
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeap?

767
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: Where did that first kind of come into the conversation

768
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: looking at a move up to Queens.

769
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was probably just before the World Cup. I'll

770
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: be out twenty twenty three, so going into that, Yeah,

771
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: what are we twenty five? Yeah, so total twenty three?

772
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: Like and I love the Victims that I still do.

773
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: And I played all my netball from under twelves at

774
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: the same stadium the State, so literally my first game

775
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: was at the Netball Center where the girl's still trained.

776
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: So Vixen's was great.

777
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: That netle Victoria Pathay was incredible, Like I feel like

778
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 4: they made me the player I was, and I felt

779
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: like there was just a point where I was like,

780
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: this is something I've always wanted to move into State

781
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: as well, but kind of fell into netball straight out

782
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: of school. I just felt like there was just more

783
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 4: out there in the netball world. It's really hard to

784
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: explain because you might look at it and think, well,

785
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 4: you're making the Grand Final, that you'll play, well, you've

786
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: had a great group. But for me, I just wanted

787
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: that little that next challenge, that next what can I do?

788
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: How can I become even better?

789
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: And just know.

790
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: It just was like that feeling trusty gut kind of feeling.

791
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: My partner was really supportive too. He was like, you're

792
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: never going to do this ever, ever again. We're never

793
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: going to do something like this too, So let's just

794
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 4: do it now and if it doesn't work, it's okay, Like, yeah,

795
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: it's not the end of the world.

796
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

797
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: And what was the public perception of it? Like did

798
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: you struggle with that part? Because in sport there's often

799
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: this big thing around like loyalty, right, how is that

800
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: process for you?

801
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

802
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: I think the hardest thing was the conversation with Simone

803
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: and the coach. I think like the public going to

804
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: say things and I was like, in two three years time,

805
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: like no one's going to remember, like like it's not

806
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: that deep, like it's going to be okay. So it

807
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: was probably more the stuff and the people that had

808
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: become really good friends with really and like Simoon and Die,

809
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: the coaches, the team manager at least, like I've been

810
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: with them since the start, so I think their view

811
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: and their opinion to me mattered the most. Even the

812
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: network Victoria board and just like everyone who has been

813
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 4: there obviously fans. The fans were really nice, like I've

814
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 4: had some great messages online. We're still going to chieve

815
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: for you kind of people understand that there's other things

816
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: that you know you want to achieve in your life

817
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: as well. But I think overall that was probably the

818
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: hardest thing of just having those conversations with people that

819
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: you really care about it have put so much time

820
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: and so much energy into developing you as a player.

821
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just don't want to let those people down. Yeah. Yeah.

822
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: And then telling my grandma that I was leaving stay

823
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: it was hard.

824
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: Oh that's really sad. I know.

825
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: He's all right, She's come around. I just gonna go

826
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: visit her every time I get back to Melbourne.

827
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

828
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, but those things too, like missing family and friends,

829
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: like you kind of see you don't want them.

830
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

831
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: They obviously got to always support you, but it's hard

832
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: because they do a lot for me as well.

833
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's the move did Sony Coast been like

834
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: for you?

835
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? It has been amazing. Yeah. I don't think I'm

836
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: gonna get my fiance back home, but he loves it. No,

837
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: we love it. We're by the.

838
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: Beach, Like, the lifestyle is amazing. Yeah, our family come

839
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: and visit all the time. Like it is really really nice,

840
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 4: very different to Melbourne, but I think that one will

841
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: always be home and we will go back there one day.

842
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been really good.

843
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: And then looking forward to that twenty twenty seven World

844
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: Cup on home soil that I feel like the Matilda's

845
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: World Cup has talked about so much and it obviously

846
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: got so much media attention and so much spotlight. You

847
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: guys as a group have had continuous success over a

848
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: number of years and haven't had the media attention. What

849
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: do you think needs to be done to ensure that

850
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: that home World Cup has a really significant impact? I

851
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: think for you guys, obviously in the netball community, you're

852
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: so well celebrated and across Australia, like people know how

853
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: good you guys are. Yeah, but I think you don't

854
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: receive the level of attention and respect that you guys

855
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: deserve to receive. What do you think needs to be

856
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: done for that, but also for participation in like the

857
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 2: sustainability of the game long term as well.

858
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a big moment for us, and everyone

859
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: talks about, you know, we want this Matilda's moment and

860
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: this big thing, but I think we've got to sort

861
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: of create our own and what it is. And I

862
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: think as Aussie's we do love an underdog and that's

863
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 4: just classic.

864
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: So true and like you just it's so true.

865
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: You see that across I said, let's just start losing everything.

866
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: We're the other dogs, but you.

867
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: Kind of yeah, And I think I think creating the

868
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: story of what we're trying to do is go back

869
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: to back as the come off games World Cup. We

870
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: no Diamonds group has ever ever done before double double. Yeah,

871
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: So creating that story and that like and being that,

872
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: I think international netball right now is the toughest it's

873
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 4: ever been. And that's you know, I can say that

874
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: as you know, our staff are telling us with all

875
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 4: the data and the numbers, like we are in a

876
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: competition right now that is so tired and so heavily

877
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: just contested, so I think creating that picture as well,

878
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: like this is actually something that's really incredible.

879
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: For Australian network. If we can do this and do

880
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: it at.

881
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: Home soil, they want to make it the best World

882
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: Cup that's ever been. I think to create like that

883
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: excitement around Netbourne. Yes we've got so many young girls

884
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: and boys playing, but just to keep I guess being

885
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: interested about the diamonds when we're not actually onto it

886
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 4: or not actually playing, and just for people to know

887
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: who we are and know our stories and just like

888
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: the Matilda's did really well. But I think it's going

889
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: to be huge for just overall at the sport in general.

890
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: This is a really if we can nail this moment,

891
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be huge for us in this sport.

892
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: And with everything that's going on, it's kind of sort

893
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: of led us to this, which is pretty cool. Yeah,

894
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of work going into it,

895
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: especially here in Sydney. Yeah, they're talking so many you know,

896
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: big status, big games like big arenas, big just everything

897
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: bigger than what it's ever been, whould be really cool.

898
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you went on the slide? How did I forget that?

899
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: Just recently? That looked and we need to talk about

900
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: how old it was. But can we discuss the Barbie outfit?

901
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: Where did you come? Because it's a lot of pressure,

902
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: it is. I kept every time someone gets up, I'm like,

903
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: that makes me feel stressed, like because you want to

904
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: nail it, and you nailed it.

905
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: Thank you, because I was so nervous.

906
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I was.

907
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: I luckily they have a theme because I was like

908
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: previous years they hadn't had themes. It was just kind

909
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: of like whatever. Yeah, so Ossie icons was was a theme.

910
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 4: And even that was like tricky because I'm like, I

911
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: don't know, it's very broad and you don't I just

912
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: I don't want to do just like athletes as well.

913
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: I don't know.

914
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I love the Barbie movie.

915
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: When am I ever gonna wear something like that? Every

916
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 4: Let's just go for it?

917
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: And it was. It was so good. It was honestly

918
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: the best day, like just incredible.

919
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: Their family and like the whole organization that Dad like,

920
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 4: it's amazing what they're doing and what they've done. To

921
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: see at firsthand, to meet all the kids, the grandkids,

922
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: like just so special and just the vibe around everybody

923
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: who was a Slider and we kind of felt like

924
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: we're this team. Now we've got a Slider number like

925
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: one too five. It was really fun stuff. They just

926
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: made it so special. But yeah, it was great. I

927
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: was so worried I was going to like fall off

928
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: or something. I had to wear a biras, like this

929
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: is going to be a disaster.

930
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: So it was.

931
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: It was so good, so good, and we petrified sight

932
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: because Melbourne is freezing at a baseline, Like were you

933
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: so scared about how good? It was?

934
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: The hardest part like I feelt you get through the

935
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: adrenaline of like, yeah you're in getting out like the

936
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 4: chill of Melbourne.

937
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 3: It was cold.

938
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then doing the.

939
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: Interview straight after it like your mouth is numbs. I

940
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: felt like I couldn't speak. I'm just like spitting out

941
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 4: water because my mouth would have moved, so I think

942
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: I spack the reporters.

943
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: But it was yeah, the adrenaline got you through, like

944
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: just yeah.

945
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: It was so cool, that's awesome, Okay, great glad I

946
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: got that in because I just looked at the house

947
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: like damn it, Oh my gosh and Robert Irwin. Oh there,

948
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: So I should have looked at my notes.

949
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: I was gonna just hop the seam actually about that too.

950
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, recently you you guys got Robert Owin to

951
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: come to a game.

952
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: How did you make that happen? I know it was

953
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: absolutely amazing.

954
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: So I think the plan was for him to come

955
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: to our last home game and they're going to build

956
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: up the suspense each home game and have a seat

957
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: there for him. But then he got on Dance with

958
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: the Stars and he said, this is my only game

959
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: I can come to.

960
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to come to it.

961
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: And we're like amazing, like here, but we had no idea,

962
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: like this is all the media team were organizing this.

963
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: So we were in the change rooms before the game

964
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 4: and our coach's talking to us like quite serious about

965
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 4: the game and whatever. And then she's like, and I've

966
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: also got and it was Anzac day round. I think yeah,

967
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: and she's like, I've also got a special guest and

968
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 4: we were like, oh okay, and then he comes with

969
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 4: the doll and we're like what like and gave us

970
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: his big rev like he gave so much time to

971
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: all of us. It was so nice. He delivered the ball,

972
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: surprised everybody in the stands and even the Firebirds girls

973
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: were like and they were like losing it and then

974
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: sat there for the whole game and like he was

975
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: just great, Like he's a Sunny Coast boy obviously. Yeah,

976
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: it was nice to just see him want to give

977
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: back to the community and everybody loved him.

978
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: I feel like people watching him more than us the

979
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: whole game.

980
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's very cool. He's been very probably his

981
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: Bond's ad.

982
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: This was pre Bonds, so we were to get him early.

983
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, a chance after Bonds, but yeah, he was hot

984
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: property it for a minute.

985
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: That's amazing. How good. A question I ask everyone on

986
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: the show is what is your favorite failure?

987
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: I think it's probably our recent I want no Actually

988
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: it would be the twenty nineteen World Cut where we

989
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: lost that by a goal, and I think for me

990
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: that drove everything that I've probably done since then. I think, Wow,

991
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: it was a big I was still sort of fresh

992
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 4: into the group, but it just showed me what I

993
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: wanted to do with this this team, this country to

994
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 4: go to a comic games, like we lost home games

995
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 4: and World Cup both years, Like back to back both

996
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: my one goal, Like it was just brutal, brutal, So

997
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: I was like, this is something that Yeah, it's just

998
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: so that I want to keep doing this and I

999
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: want to go back there, and not that gold medals

1000
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: are everything, because there's so much that you learn and do.

1001
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: But I think it's definitely the way I've attacked it.

1002
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 4: It's sort of helped me in my leadership. It's helped

1003
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: me and create the environment that we have. And I

1004
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: always speak to all the new girls that come into

1005
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: the environment and say, what do you actually think of

1006
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: the environment and be honest, because yeah, right, we want

1007
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: to make someone's first day of the environment so exciting

1008
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: that they want to be here. Yeah, you know, And

1009
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: I was like it I was probably the start coming in.

1010
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: I was felt really included and I loved the environment.

1011
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: But I know it hasn't always been like that, so

1012
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: it's always special to think, like, what's the environment going

1013
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: to be like for someone who first comes in.

1014
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good motivator.

1015
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: It's a big shift though, right because like back in

1016
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: the day, I feel like when I was a kid

1017
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: started in a professional sport, it was like yeah, you know,

1018
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: like even like the veteran gets like the best bed

1019
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: or like the best seat on the planeff, you know,

1020
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: like that kind of thing. Yeah, all that kind of

1021
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: stuff where the rookies literally got to do all the

1022
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: worst jobs. That's a pretty big shift to then be

1023
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: asking people who are coming in for the first time, like,

1024
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: what's it like. We want to hear from you, we want.

1025
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: To make it better, yeah, or what did they think

1026
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: it was going to be? Like it is it different?

1027
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: And then including them in everything straight away and just

1028
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: being like your part that you're here because you you

1029
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: deserve to be here, Like yeah, let's let's make this

1030
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: the best time for you and you'll be here in

1031
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 4: ten years time.

1032
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: Like just yeah, I love that. That's good, really good moment.

1033
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: Who has had the biggest impact on you as a person.

1034
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: Definitely Bianca Chatfield.

1035
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: She was my captain at the Vixen's my first year

1036
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: and she was, yeah, almost ten years older than me,

1037
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 4: but just we became great friends straight away.

1038
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: We're still really close.

1039
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: Now, and I think she showed me what you need

1040
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 4: to do to be an elite netballer one and just

1041
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: the time and energy that she put in, but just leadership,

1042
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 4: her skills, her no fuss attitude.

1043
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: Like everything that she's done.

1044
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 4: She's someone who's extremely likable and can talk to anyone,

1045
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 4: but also never ever goes away from what she truly believes.

1046
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 4: And now she's in commentary and she's doing a great

1047
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: job there, Bibles it doesn't she Yeah. I think she's

1048
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: just so that it doesn't have to be complicated, like

1049
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: we're in a very privileged position. This is our work,

1050
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: which doesn't feel like.

1051
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 3: Work at all. This is great. So yeah, she's still

1052
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: still right up there as one of the best people

1053
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: I know.

1054
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: I love that. That's awesome. She's a legend. Thank you

1055
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: so much for your time today. It's been so nice

1056
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: to sit down and chat. Yeah, and to hear more

1057
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: about your story and wishing you like for the rest

1058
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: of the season.

1059
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks so much, being awesome.

1060
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out

1061
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you

1062
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: could send it on to one person who you think

1063
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,600
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1064
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,000
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1065
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1066
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