Speaker 1: The Rising Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the
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Speaker 1: We further acknowledge country throughout Australia and their connections to land,
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Speaker 1: to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is the podcast
Speaker 1: for ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things.
Speaker 2: Anything can be obsessive if you want it to be.
Speaker 2: It's like at the end, it's also your relationship with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I have If I want more, if I'm starving,
Speaker 2: I don't be like Nope, that's all. I will add more.
Speaker 2: But I'm aware, Okay, I'm having a bit more.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the Raising Conker Podcast. It
Speaker 1: is your host, Georgie Stevenson. Guys, today we have my
Speaker 1: fitness girl Crush, Rachel Dylan joining us on the potty.
Speaker 1: I probably don't need to introduce her, but for those
Speaker 1: who don't know who she is, she is the founder
Speaker 1: of Move with Us and crop Shop boutique. We chat
Speaker 1: marketing business fitness training, routines, habits. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm currently doing their Busy Girl challenge, So I was
Speaker 1: very selfish and I was like, Rachel, give me all
Speaker 1: the tips, tell me how to ace this challenge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's really good because we get into a really
Speaker 1: raw and deep chat about how my fitness journey has
Speaker 1: changed and how, you know, I used to look at
Speaker 1: fitness a certain way and I almost get a bit
Speaker 1: burnt from making fitness goals because of my problematic past
Speaker 1: with fitness. But how I'm really like growing on that.
Speaker 1: And I loved the way that she spoke about how
Speaker 1: we can, you know, sort of change our mindset and
Speaker 1: really look at fitness as this whole ecosystem rather than
Speaker 1: just like this weird specific part where you have to
Speaker 1: obsess over it. That makes sense, And I loved how,
Speaker 1: especially when you talked about obsession and how some people
Speaker 1: perceive it as an obsession, but sometimes it's just being
Speaker 1: aware and that'd be interesting. I loved that she put
Speaker 1: that out instead of it can be different. We're not
Speaker 1: just going to put in this basket of if you're
Speaker 1: obsessed with fitness, it's problematic. If that makes sense. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed that. But before we get into the show, my week,
Speaker 1: my weekend was great. A tea. I actually had what
Speaker 1: did you do? A girls' night on Saturday night. I
Speaker 1: think about three or four of my besties are all
Speaker 1: born in September, as are you and JB. Hey, what's
Speaker 1: the star? Si'm berger ergo. Yeah, everyone's a go. We
Speaker 1: love it. So we had this, yeah girl's night. I
Speaker 1: went down to Brisbane. A lot of the girls I
Speaker 1: literally hadn't seen since before Ivy was born. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was so lovely. We you know, had lots
Speaker 1: of wine and champagne, dance the night away. Look, my
Speaker 1: head did hurt a little bit, say hour Sunday. I
Speaker 1: wasn't that intoxicated, Like it was fine, but when you're older,
Speaker 1: you just you don't recover and you just don't bounce back. No,
Speaker 1: you don't bounce back. So I was feeling a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, sorry for myself, but it was fine. I
Speaker 1: feel fine. Everything's fine, everything's fine. But yeah, my week
Speaker 1: has been good. I'm also my Petal and Pup collection
Speaker 1: launches this week, so exciting. So the Sunday Dreaming collection
Speaker 1: launches at Wednesday at twelve pm I'm just so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of this collection. And the vibe is
Speaker 1: if you have a spring or summer event like oh,
Speaker 1: wedding or a Christmas party or a birthday, it's just
Speaker 1: the perfect collection to like celebrate, you celebrate others and
Speaker 1: embrace you know, spring and summer. Everything is like bright.
Speaker 1: It feels like you're going to like Italy. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's so cute. So that's really exciting. I'm doing the
Speaker 1: busy your challenge, which you guys will hear about in
Speaker 1: this episode. But I'm loving I got up and did
Speaker 1: gym this morning and I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the thought process that went through my mind
Speaker 1: was I'm in a challenge. I need to get up
Speaker 1: and do this because I really didn't feel like it
Speaker 1: because of the weekend. But I was like, nah, I
Speaker 1: got it done. It was thirty minutes and it was great.
Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying it. It's like kind of keeping me
Speaker 1: a bit more accountable. That's so good. We love a challenge,
Speaker 1: we do, but let's get into it. Rachel, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer Podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I am so excited about I actually feel
Speaker 2: a little bit nervous because I haven't been on a
Speaker 2: podcast where I've the one. I've been the one like talking,
Speaker 2: oh my god stop for so long. I always the
Speaker 2: one that's like, tell me all about you. I'm a listener.
Speaker 2: I love to listen to other people.
Speaker 1: Well, I was actually thinking. I was like, I splay
Speaker 1: Rachel's being in my podcast. Then I was like, no way,
Speaker 1: I was on her pocast.
Speaker 2: We have been trying to organize this for like a
Speaker 2: long so long, so long.
Speaker 1: So happy to be doing it too. I've probably said
Speaker 1: this in the intro guise, but Rachel is my girl crush.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Just everything about you is just oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just a.
Speaker 2: Vibe thank you. But I am a bit disappointed today
Speaker 2: because I did think Ivy would be here.
Speaker 1: Oh and I walked in and she wasn't. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so upset. I was just like in the corner
Speaker 1: of my office. No. Ivy is gorgeous, but she's very distracting.
Speaker 2: She takes the attention. She's the main character.
Speaker 1: She's got main character energy, and nothing would get done
Speaker 1: when she comes in, Like if Tim's got an appointment
Speaker 1: or something like the girls, nothing gets done. Everyone's obsessed
Speaker 1: with her, so I've got to rain there.
Speaker 2: I literally die over Tim and Ivy content. It's just
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: So they're like best friends and they're also like twins.
Speaker 1: I was just say they look exactly the same.
Speaker 2: It's so cute. I love it. I love dads and daughters.
Speaker 2: There's something about it. I'm just like, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, honestly, I obviously was so in love with Tim,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've been married for three years now
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But when you have a daughter and the
Speaker 1: way that Tim and her and everything, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh my heart. Yeah, it's really sweet. And they literally
Speaker 1: like best friends. Like the way that he talked to
Speaker 1: her and yeah, treats her and everything. I just I
Speaker 1: die but less. Maybe next time we'll have to go
Speaker 1: for a walker and I'll bring her.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's done it.
Speaker 1: She's lots of fun. You would love her. Wait, what
Speaker 1: staffs on to you?
Speaker 2: I'm a Virgo.
Speaker 1: She she's a sad ah.
Speaker 2: So they're very like Morgan's are sad you know? Morgans? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, very out there, high energy fire sign because Virgo's water.
Speaker 2: I'm not that great with all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tears of Virgo. I love oh so you're very granted,
Speaker 1: Tim's a Taurus, so he's grounded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm but we're quite bossy and
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: You know what you want?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we know what we want.
Speaker 1: We love after it. I love that anyway, guys, me
Speaker 1: and Rachel literally just had like half an hour convo
Speaker 1: of off air, so it will just seem very natural
Speaker 1: to you, guys. But let's dive into business. So I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to segment this potty. So the first start,
Speaker 1: let's do business where we chat about, you know, your
Speaker 1: two babies and how they grew and all those, and
Speaker 1: then after that, I really just have some selfish questions
Speaker 1: to ask you about fitness and getting back on track.
Speaker 1: I'm nine months postpartum, so I'm in this weird journey
Speaker 1: where I'm at the beginning again even though you know,
Speaker 1: I've done fitness for like ten years, and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a whole big thing. So we'll get
Speaker 1: into that towards the end. But let's start with Move
Speaker 1: with Us and Crop Shop Boutique. So these two businesses,
Speaker 1: obviously they revolve around and you know, you and your journey,
Speaker 1: but what really led you to starting both of them?
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's take it back. So back in the day, I,
Speaker 2: like many of you may be going through, it's or
Speaker 2: sort of resonate with you finish high school and everyone's like,
Speaker 2: so what are you gonna do? And you're like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. And I was always that
Speaker 2: child that was just like you know, Liam and Emma
Speaker 2: they finished school, they went and got like you, law degrees,
Speaker 2: and I was always just like, all right, I'm heading
Speaker 2: to Melbourne for a year with my boyfriend. I'm seventeen
Speaker 2: and we're in love. So see how I'm my dad.
Speaker 1: And they're like you wait, is Liam young younger? And
Speaker 1: then Emma's older?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh kay? And Mom and I are like you
Speaker 2: have no money? Like what on earth? Anyway? So I
Speaker 2: was that child, right, So I never knew what I
Speaker 2: wanted to do, wanted to drop out of school like
Speaker 2: all of that stuff. I always had this like obsession
Speaker 2: with wanting to do something sort of in the service industry,
Speaker 2: like whether that be like a beautician or like I
Speaker 2: loved fitness. I always wanted to do something to like
Speaker 2: make people all better, whether that like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like whether it be waxing someone's eyebrows or like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I just always loved the idea of doing
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: Did you ever do beauty? No?
Speaker 2: I wanted to, So that's what I wanted to do
Speaker 2: in your ten I wanted to go to beauty school
Speaker 2: and my parents said no. I love them for that,
Speaker 2: so they were like, You're going to university blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So you know, I did my gap year that didn't
Speaker 2: turn out too well. So I came back and I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, cool, I'm going to sort of go
Speaker 2: to university and do teaching because I liked the idea
Speaker 2: of also teaching, which is kind of like both those
Speaker 2: things add up to what I ended up doing in
Speaker 2: the end. But I did it for a year. It
Speaker 2: just wasn't for me. And then I kind of liked
Speaker 2: some of the business subjects in my teaching degree, so
Speaker 2: we moved on to do business. Listen. I liked university,
Speaker 2: but I didn't love it. So on the side, I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to be a personal trainer. Got
Speaker 2: my seirt started Bodies by Rachel and that was like
Speaker 2: literally just one on one sessions of people that grew grew,
Speaker 2: grew to these big hit camps, and I just honestly
Speaker 2: loved helping women like I just I was obsessed with it.
Speaker 2: I was obsessed with helping them feel in control, right
Speaker 2: because for me, when I started out, I didn't have help,
Speaker 2: and I always felt so lost and I was like like,
Speaker 2: who can I turn to? What does this mean? Why
Speaker 2: is this not working? And you know, following every fad
Speaker 2: diet under the sun. So for me, it was more
Speaker 2: just about like giving girls that education around what they
Speaker 2: can do, especially weight training, because you know, this was
Speaker 2: a while ago and weight training wasn't really a thing.
Speaker 1: You were ahead of the game with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really wasn't a thing. So we Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was really passionate about that. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I've got to spread this to more people.
Speaker 2: I've got to take this online. And at the time
Speaker 2: I didn't really have a massive following, but I just
Speaker 2: slowly like did both at the same time and like
Speaker 2: had ebooks and little things. I started like one on
Speaker 2: one coaching online and slowly made enough money to be
Speaker 2: able to transition. And at that stage I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to move to Sydney. My
Speaker 2: sister and I were like let's just do it. Well,
Speaker 2: that's all I had to literally like drag Emma she
Speaker 2: didn't want to come, and we pretty much just moved
Speaker 2: to Sydney. And that's when Bodies by Rachel, like online
Speaker 2: started And you know, we had many apt fails. We've
Speaker 2: had like every every possible thing that could go wrong
Speaker 2: in business has been has gone wrong. But I guess,
Speaker 2: you know, we just have always loved what we've done,
Speaker 2: and yeah, that sort of is what inspired me to
Speaker 2: start move with us, right. Crop Shop, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: is kind of like a similar story. But I noticed
Speaker 2: early on when I would train, I would look around
Speaker 2: the gym or go into you know, your typical stores
Speaker 2: back then, like your Lulu Yeah yeah, oh that wasn't
Speaker 2: even really around Lululemon much, but like yeah, Nike and
Speaker 2: like yeah, and back then like little crops and like
Speaker 2: stylish sort of active, but it just wasn't as much
Speaker 2: of a thing. It was still very functional and and
Speaker 2: everything would like looked the same, Everything looked very similar.
Speaker 2: Obviously all of these brands have like evolved since then.
Speaker 2: But I would just notice that there wasn't really anything
Speaker 2: I really loved, so I would actually go into shops
Speaker 2: like City Beach and See Prey, and I would buy
Speaker 2: like their crops and I would wear them to the gym,
Speaker 2: even though like they weren't for the gym. So they
Speaker 2: were these like crops that like, you know, looked a
Speaker 2: bit stylish and you know, yeah, they were cute. And
Speaker 2: people would always say stuff to me, like I would
Speaker 2: always get comments and stuff about what I wear, but
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I don't care because
Speaker 2: I loved the idea of fashion and fitness. I was like,
Speaker 2: why like I spend all day Nelly either in the
Speaker 2: gym training clients, Like.
Speaker 1: Why do I have to not feel and look my best?
Speaker 1: So always loved it.
Speaker 2: And then at that stage, I was approached by Muscle Nation,
Speaker 2: who had just started out and they had a couple
Speaker 2: of boy athletes and they didn't have any female athletes,
Speaker 2: and they were like, would love to work with you,
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, cool, Like let's do it.
Speaker 2: And I took to them a lot of these crops
Speaker 2: like ben dos and all of that back then, and
Speaker 2: they would create these crops for me and then I
Speaker 2: would sort of drop lines with them, right, And so
Speaker 2: I did that for a couple of years. And it
Speaker 2: got to a point where I loved it, but I
Speaker 2: just had this like burning passion to like create more
Speaker 2: and design more. So you know, I sort of decided
Speaker 2: to go my step way and sort of create crop
Speaker 2: Shop boutique. And at that stage, it was just going
Speaker 2: to be crop so I was like, oh, we'll just
Speaker 2: see how this goes sort of thing, and then it
Speaker 2: just sort of like I just love what.
Speaker 1: You called it a crop shop. Oh yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: didn't know that's where it came from.
Speaker 2: It was originally only going to be crop chops, Like
Speaker 2: I didn't really think that I was going to do
Speaker 2: full active Well, that's why we kind of call it
Speaker 2: CSB because we're like her name change would be just
Speaker 2: too much, right.
Speaker 1: Whoa enough changes?
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then now Crop Shops it's like like
Speaker 2: stands alone as a brand and it's like doing super
Speaker 2: well and we our team's growing and yeah, we love it.
Speaker 2: So both businesses definitely started like through passion, just like
Speaker 2: you and I guess, yeah, when there's something that you
Speaker 2: feel is lacking and you know that you can like
Speaker 2: feel that, I feel like it's it's sort of yeah,
Speaker 2: I've just always loved the idea of creating stuff and
Speaker 2: being challenged by the process of it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly been so amazing to see your evolution
Speaker 1: because I feel like I followed you back in the
Speaker 1: day when you were doing like the fitness comps. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny because I had no interest in fitness
Speaker 1: comps and kind of like refuse to follow people like that,
Speaker 1: but for some reason I followed you a bit. Found
Speaker 1: it not problematic, and you know, in the way of
Speaker 1: like I really enjoyed you and your content even though
Speaker 1: that was you doing what you were doing. But I
Speaker 1: felt like, I guess a bit more of a different
Speaker 1: vibe that was more relatable to me.
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like something I did that maybe separated
Speaker 2: me a little bit was I always put my health first,
Speaker 2: so you know, I always made sure I never did
Speaker 2: anything that would jeopardize that. Like, honestly, I would still
Speaker 2: you know, if I wanted a burg I'd have a
Speaker 2: burger if I just was never I was never okay
Speaker 2: with having to sacrifice my health to look a certain way.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I challenged myself, but like sitting
Speaker 2: in the bikini like division, especially in WBFF, it's just
Speaker 2: that like it's a bit softer. Yeah, they kind of
Speaker 2: liked that, like a bit curvier, Like you didn't have
Speaker 2: to be this like really hard lean look, and you know,
Speaker 2: nothing against that, it just wasn't an interest of mine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I guess being able to take myself from you know,
Speaker 2: being quite thin to having more of that shape through
Speaker 2: weight training was sort of the thing that I pushed
Speaker 2: out to, you know, so many females around the world, which, yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of I feel like that was kind of our
Speaker 2: thing at the time with bodies Wear Chel at the time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's yeah, it's been really amazing to watch
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go straight in for the kill and
Speaker 1: let's just talk about it, because if you think about it,
Speaker 1: there's so many fitness girls. There's so many girls who
Speaker 1: you know, have because you have a huge community, you
Speaker 1: have a huge following. But I would argue that, you know,
Speaker 1: some aren't as successful, and I feel like you have
Speaker 1: really made a name for yourself, like in the fitness
Speaker 1: industry and obviously with crop Shop. Now, what do you
Speaker 1: think has been a catalyst to your success, you know,
Speaker 1: in the fitness industry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is such a good question, and I feel
Speaker 2: like why you said, all it could be. You know,
Speaker 2: I think that at the end of the day, there's
Speaker 2: many contributing factors. I think a lot of what people
Speaker 2: don't realize, right, which is just like the time and
Speaker 2: the consistency that you put in behind the scenes, you know,
Speaker 2: in front of a camera, et cetera. But I think
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, something you know, I've
Speaker 2: always tried to do was be as authentic as I can.
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds kind of cliche because a
Speaker 2: lot of people say that, but not only that, I
Speaker 2: think I was always very very much I always is
Speaker 2: very customer centric. So especially earlier on with Move with Us,
Speaker 2: I always tell I'm just gonna call it Move with Us,
Speaker 2: but it was bodies very strong. But early on I
Speaker 2: always say to our community, like, you guys actually created
Speaker 2: this product because I, you know, had a journey and
Speaker 2: I sort of put that forward to the girls. But
Speaker 2: then they were the ones that sort of like guided
Speaker 2: me to add features or you know, create this or
Speaker 2: create that. And I guess, you know, being someone who
Speaker 2: can you know, connect with people right, like I could
Speaker 2: make people feel comfortable to come to me, Like I
Speaker 2: always say it when someone comes up and says hello.
Speaker 2: I'm always like that is like the nicest signal to
Speaker 2: me because it shows that people feel comfortable to come
Speaker 2: and say hello to me. You know, they're not intimidated.
Speaker 2: They don't think that I'm you know this, or that
Speaker 2: it's like they feel like, ohkay, yeah, I'm I see
Speaker 2: you on my screen every day and like we connect.
Speaker 2: And I think that's like something that I really focused
Speaker 2: on early on. So I was always very community focused.
Speaker 2: And I think when you're constantly putting others, you know, first,
Speaker 2: and listening to them and taking on their feedback, you're
Speaker 2: making people feel valued and you're making them feel hurt.
Speaker 2: And I think that's something that I always put a
Speaker 2: lot of effort into and still put a lot of
Speaker 2: effort into. Only last night, we had about ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen of our long term move with us customers come
Speaker 2: in for a sort of like night where we pretty
Speaker 2: much presented a lot of what we do or what
Speaker 2: we have planned to do, and they kind of gave
Speaker 2: us our feedback around do they like it? Do they not?
Speaker 2: You know, Like, I think that that stuff for me
Speaker 2: that energizes me. We have community days where we hear
Speaker 2: people's stories and there's just seeing other people's success, whether
Speaker 2: it's you or a client. I just get so much
Speaker 2: joy from that, and I think that's truly what energizes
Speaker 2: me to like do what I do. And I think
Speaker 2: that that has been a contributing factor maybe to you know,
Speaker 2: creating a community and being different.
Speaker 1: I guess I love that so much. And I'm going
Speaker 1: to butcher this quote, but I've heard someone say, like
Speaker 1: this is different, but it's it's you're not in the
Speaker 1: fitness industry, You're like in the people industry. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense, and you've realized that.
Speaker 2: Definitely, And it's like, you know, I think sometimes we
Speaker 2: get caught up like what should we be? So it's
Speaker 2: like what kind of content should I be making? Like
Speaker 2: what trends should I be following, instead of actually understanding
Speaker 2: what is the problem that my audience has and how
Speaker 2: can I fix that? Or how can I add value
Speaker 2: to their lives? Because you know, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it's like I can share lots of things
Speaker 2: about my life, but is that always helping that person? Yes,
Speaker 2: some things, for sure, but it's like, how can I
Speaker 2: also make sure that I'm adding enough value that when
Speaker 2: they watch my content they take something away from that,
Speaker 2: and I think that that's really important and something that
Speaker 2: you know to always make sure you're considering.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, that's such a I'm like, I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm here like thinking your naked harf or something, mmmm absorbing.
Speaker 2: You do so much of this so well yourself, like
Speaker 2: you honestly do.
Speaker 1: Like, no, I appreciate that, but I just I love
Speaker 1: that that's your answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm like, these questions are so
Speaker 2: like I could say so much, but I think that
Speaker 2: that's what I would contribute to. Yeah. A great example,
Speaker 2: I know we're going to touch on it was our
Speaker 2: busy girl workouts, right, So we had these programs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people loved them. I sort of started, you know, going
Speaker 2: to Adelaide and realized, oh my god, like Jim's are
Speaker 2: so busy, Like the gym go to an Adelaide is insane,
Speaker 2: Like at peak hour. I'm like, I've got anxcitedy It's
Speaker 2: like insane. So I was like, wow, like some of
Speaker 2: my programming, I'm like, there's just no way someone could
Speaker 2: do this or like understanding like even with my travel
Speaker 2: and my work schedule right now, adding a baby into that,
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't even know how you do it.
Speaker 2: Nelly is honestly, she's just a handful as she is.
Speaker 2: But I was like, people also don't have you know,
Speaker 2: seventy minutes or like some some workouts honestly can go
Speaker 2: for so long, like people don't have that time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I guess like that process for me was a
Speaker 2: massive wake up. And then I started to just sort
Speaker 2: of like ask questions on my Instagram about like what
Speaker 2: you know is stopping people from getting to the gym?
Speaker 2: What obstacles are they facing? Like what equipment can they
Speaker 2: get to? Is equipment hopping difficult? And that literally guided
Speaker 2: me to create busy go workouts, So I identified a problem.
Speaker 2: I then, you know, survey in my community. We surveyed
Speaker 2: our database, like we surveyed all of our customers just
Speaker 2: sort of like reassure us. And then it's like that
Speaker 2: is actually how the product was created. It wasn't just
Speaker 2: created because I thought that it could be a cool product,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? So I think again,
Speaker 2: like as I said, the community sort of guides that
Speaker 2: process for me, and I think that listening to your
Speaker 2: customers is like super super important huge.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. What was the I
Speaker 1: guess the big reason I think, I know, but it
Speaker 1: was the big reason behind changing the name from Bodies
Speaker 1: by Rachel to move with.
Speaker 2: Us great question. So it was definitely it was a
Speaker 2: hard decision, but I feel like being Bodies by Rachel
Speaker 2: I was sort of only saying, well, this is the
Speaker 2: one way you can train, this is the one you know,
Speaker 2: style of person like I'm only one person and not
Speaker 2: that everyone needs to like me or I don't need
Speaker 2: to appeal to everyone, but it's like we need to
Speaker 2: I guess, have more variety within the business. So the
Speaker 2: decision was sort of based upon you know, wanting to
Speaker 2: work with new coaches, wanting to bring on new personalities
Speaker 2: and you know it being Bodies by Rachel for you know,
Speaker 2: for most people, they're like, oh, well, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't really feel like that's an inclusive thing to come
Speaker 2: on board on board too, like, yeah, we want us
Speaker 2: to all sit together. We don't want people to feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, there's different levels within the business. So that
Speaker 2: was probably the biggest driver for that is just I
Speaker 2: guess opening up some more opportunity to like work with
Speaker 2: different different people amazing. And so let's talk marketing yeah,
Speaker 2: so what would you say that is your obviously you
Speaker 2: don't have to tell us all the secrets, but marketing wise,
Speaker 2: what do you use in your business? What do you
Speaker 2: find that is you know, I guess like the strongest.
Speaker 2: And that feels really good to you because I feel
Speaker 2: like you do do marketing different to a lot of
Speaker 2: you know, fitness companies and you know fitness personal brands.
Speaker 2: I see, so obviously you have you know, organic marketing
Speaker 2: and then paid. I think it all comes down to
Speaker 2: touch points. So where are people seeing, how are you
Speaker 2: being represented and what are they taking away from you? Right?
Speaker 2: So you know, from my social to move with us,
Speaker 2: to TikTok, to email to paid, I guess we have
Speaker 2: we want everyone to feel the same feeling from each
Speaker 2: piece of content, but that content is definitely created for
Speaker 2: that channel. So for example, we might create a piece
Speaker 2: of content for Instagram and then we will cut it
Speaker 2: up for TikTok, will position it on an email. Like
Speaker 2: for me, I think marketing needs not There's not one
Speaker 2: thing when it comes to marketing, right. People need to
Speaker 2: be seeing you and like understanding you and hearing you
Speaker 2: multiple times before they usually probably make the decision to
Speaker 2: well trust you and purchase from you. So I think
Speaker 2: when it comes to marketing, it's understanding what is your message,
Speaker 2: who is your customer, and what problem? So I keep
Speaker 2: coming back to this, but what problem are you solving
Speaker 2: for them? Because like Busy Girl workouts, it's very clear
Speaker 2: that who we can literally like do our personas right
Speaker 2: of who that program is going to best fit for,
Speaker 2: and it's not everyone. And that's a mistake we made.
Speaker 2: There was a time there we were really trying to
Speaker 2: be something for every like one thing for everyone. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: guess what training like a wbffpro is not going to
Speaker 2: be the best program for a mum who is back
Speaker 2: at work and has a crazy busy lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I think that was a big turning point is
Speaker 2: understanding that different people need different styles of training and programming.
Speaker 2: And I think that you need to understand who those
Speaker 2: people are, what their problem is, and then your content
Speaker 2: needs to be able to solve that problem for them,
Speaker 2: whether it's like you know, obviously through mine it would
Speaker 2: be trusting, through move with us, it would be like
Speaker 2: education and what the product is, and then obviously all
Speaker 2: the other channels sort of like tie into that.
Speaker 1: Amazing is that sort of what you're asking because I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's all the touch. It's a big question, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's I think that's definitely where like how I would
Speaker 1: answer it in the way of there's not one marketing strategy.
Speaker 1: I don't think you could have one marketing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like how much goes into it, right,
Speaker 2: like insane and it is content content content, it's the gang.
Speaker 1: And touching different Like if I really see marketing as
Speaker 1: an ecosystem, everything you know contributes, everything you know makes
Speaker 1: sense and has to be specific for that channel.
Speaker 2: So and I also think a great form of marketing
Speaker 2: is also letting your community speak for you, so, you know,
Speaker 2: having these client stories or testimonials because people want to see, hey,
Speaker 2: that person like I, that's I can read me, I
Speaker 2: can resonate like I want that, you know. Whereas again,
Speaker 2: if you're only trying to move your you know, product
Speaker 2: or service through that one person I gave you or myself,
Speaker 2: that's not really enough. And people want to see that,
Speaker 2: you know, other people's you know stories, and I guess
Speaker 2: they want to buy into that to that journey, which
Speaker 2: are being super important.
Speaker 1: Well, I love that it is. It's also about realizing
Speaker 1: like it needs to be inclusive. You can't just yeah,
Speaker 1: have one target marketer. Okay, so last question and then
Speaker 1: we're going to get into the fun fitness stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is your and let's just focus on Move with Us.
Speaker 1: What's your five year goal, like give us an insight
Speaker 1: of like what are you working towards, what's your vision? So, yes,
Speaker 1: this has been without feeling too many secrets because we know.
Speaker 2: So my goal with Move with Us in the next
Speaker 2: couple of years is to defer, restructure our product and
Speaker 2: pricing a little bit. So we want to have something
Speaker 2: more appealing I guess to our long term customers, so
Speaker 2: whether that be some sort of like membership platform where
Speaker 2: they get like access to more and then definitely I
Speaker 2: want to work with more coaches and trainers and partners.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to include more personalities in the brand
Speaker 2: through different training styles. That's like a big goal of
Speaker 2: mine for sure.
Speaker 1: Amazing. All right, guys, let's chat about fitness and health.
Speaker 1: Like I said, this is very selfish because I'm like, Rachel,
Speaker 1: help me. So I actually like I've been a big
Speaker 1: fan of yours for a long time and resonate with
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. And even though I guess you've
Speaker 1: always been very different in regards to the results I
Speaker 1: want or anything like that, I've always seen and I
Speaker 1: feel like this is what you need to do, is
Speaker 1: like you need to see yourself in that person a
Speaker 1: little bit definitely. And then you bloody brought out the
Speaker 1: Busy Hour Challenge and I was like done. So I
Speaker 1: actually like purchased and did the Busy Gel Challenge when
Speaker 1: I was postpartum, and I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: get back into the gym because previous to that, I
Speaker 1: was doing group classes that were just a bit hard
Speaker 1: on my body, and like I wanted to. I've always
Speaker 1: been loved weight training and always been into it, but
Speaker 1: I like got nervous again for gym and like entering
Speaker 1: the weight section and it's like I was the beginner,
Speaker 1: you know, all over again. So then it was like
Speaker 1: the perfect segue to get back into it. Because again,
Speaker 1: also I don't have an hour to work out, like
Speaker 1: I've got forty five minutes tops, and that includes like
Speaker 1: getting in warming up, et cetera, et cetera. And also
Speaker 1: I can only work out three to four days because
Speaker 1: also I don't want to work out more. I know, like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I've got to a point in my life I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just not that I don't care, but it's like
Speaker 1: I'll do enough for my health and to feel good.
Speaker 1: But then, yeah, different priorities. So let's chat about I
Speaker 1: guess how do you And especially now I love that
Speaker 1: you've gone through that transition of obviously having you know,
Speaker 1: your partner into state and having to travel and you know,
Speaker 1: doing so much in your businesses, But how do you
Speaker 1: prioritize your fitness and health on the daily when you
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time, Like what kind of
Speaker 1: sets you up? What are the little things you do?
Speaker 2: So it's funny that you just said, like I don't
Speaker 2: want to train like every day, and I can totally
Speaker 2: relate to that because for someone who loves training, the
Speaker 2: phase that I'm in in my life, I don't want
Speaker 2: to train every day either, Like it's just not something
Speaker 2: I just I'm like you, I would rather be like
Speaker 2: working on my business or you know, spending time with
Speaker 2: my partner or you know, seeing my family. So for me,
Speaker 2: I am someone who I love routine and I love
Speaker 2: to know exactly like where things are going to sit
Speaker 2: in my day right, because if it's not in there,
Speaker 2: it's just not happening. Okay, So I'm going through a
Speaker 2: new fame is at the moment where I train at
Speaker 2: late quite late in the evening. Yeah wow, yeah, well
Speaker 2: I mean why so I well, obviously, you know, especially
Speaker 2: when I'm not with Toby, I am you know, a
Speaker 2: single gal. Like my lifestyle is like you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just find that in from the morning is like
Speaker 2: work is just my brain is best in the morning.
Speaker 2: So I'd love to get up.
Speaker 1: It's creative time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like all of my floors just yeah, get
Speaker 2: them out. So whether that be walk, going for a walk,
Speaker 2: or just walking on my treadmill early morning, jotting everything
Speaker 2: down my phone and I'll get on my laptop for
Speaker 2: a bit, then I'll get ready, I'll eat the head
Speaker 2: into the office or have calls from home. I just
Speaker 2: find that if I try to train in the morning
Speaker 2: or even mid morning or lunch, a lot of our
Speaker 2: girls at work train at lunch. I'm just like my
Speaker 2: head is not there. And for me, Jim is a
Speaker 2: time of like put my phone down. It's my therapy,
Speaker 2: like actually enjoy and train with intention. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: just found I'm like training at like five thirty six
Speaker 2: at night, sometimes later, and no one at the office
Speaker 2: because obviously our gym's at the office. You know, I
Speaker 2: wear my tracksuits, I'm like wearing something comfy. I just
Speaker 2: like get in there and I just feel so clear,
Speaker 2: and I guess I make the most of that session because,
Speaker 2: like you, I'm not training as much, so I'm like,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to train, I'm gonna make it like
Speaker 2: a good session. And I've just found even early morning
Speaker 2: without eating and stuff. I don't know, I've just found
Speaker 2: my sessions. Lately, I've just been preferring that afternoon slash
Speaker 2: evening session, which is like very odd for me because
Speaker 2: I've always been like a morning trainer.
Speaker 1: I love this though, because this is like the first
Speaker 1: tip of don't just train when you think you should train,
Speaker 1: when you can actually get in the zone and when
Speaker 1: it feels good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do guarantee if you're in a bit
Speaker 2: of a like slump, try to change something up. So
Speaker 2: whether that be let's say you've been training in the morning,
Speaker 2: start earlier at work and try maybe going in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: or you know, just try changing something about your current routine.
Speaker 2: Because like anything. This is like a lifelong journey, right,
Speaker 2: and if you're constantly doing the same thing and you're
Speaker 2: not enjoying it, it's going to be very difficult for
Speaker 2: you to like continue to do it. And even like
Speaker 2: the style of training, right, Like if I wake up
Speaker 2: and I don't feel like training, Like yesterday I was
Speaker 2: getting my period, I was like, I am not going
Speaker 2: to train, So I went for a walk, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that where I'm also cycle sisters,
Speaker 2: but I think, just yeah, just understanding that as long
Speaker 2: as you're moving your body in some way, stop being
Speaker 2: so hard on yourself, Like I used to be so
Speaker 2: hard on myself with sticking to that routine to like
Speaker 2: the tea. Yeah, and the more you like are flexible,
Speaker 2: the more you realize, oh wow, I don't need to
Speaker 2: be that intense. So yeah, I find like for me
Speaker 2: just changing things up and also like knowing when I'm
Speaker 2: going to train it that day and when I am
Speaker 2: training phones away, like concentrate on what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: How do I keep the phone away if I'm on
Speaker 1: the app? Okay, put on do not disturb Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: I was like, no Instagram, no Instagram scrolling I am
Speaker 2: the worst for that, but I feel like that better
Speaker 2: because if you have it open and the time or
Speaker 2: was something, you can't get out. So even the rest period, I.
Speaker 1: I want to go on my friend, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess up my rest perit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also if you save so much time, like
Speaker 2: if you just I can spend so much time in
Speaker 2: the gym, if I'm like effing around.
Speaker 1: Honestly, and this is actually this is going off topic
Speaker 1: a little bit. But when I was doing the first challenge,
Speaker 1: because I've just started the new challenge, but when I
Speaker 1: was doing the first challenge, I did notice because yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to stay on the app. Yeah, I did notice.
Speaker 1: Like it's even the way like I'm weight training sticking
Speaker 1: to like I really used previous training. I was probably
Speaker 1: doing like heaps on rest breaks and like not actually
Speaker 1: sticking to the exact So I was like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: this sac actually really hard and it's like only thirty
Speaker 1: minutes and I'd be like, you know, trying to do
Speaker 1: my reps in the same time and all that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. But yeah, that's such a good thing. What
Speaker 1: about let's go Okay, so training, we're changing up the
Speaker 1: time and also we're listening to our bodies of like
Speaker 1: doing am I actually going to train? Or am I
Speaker 1: just going to do some link you know light What
Speaker 1: about the like the eating side of it, the food
Speaker 1: side of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, I feel like I like to
Speaker 2: eat quite similar for like three to four days or
Speaker 2: even the week. So for me, if I'm like, it's different.
Speaker 2: If I'm with Toby, he cooks so like oh, but
Speaker 2: even still what he cooks is very like this. We
Speaker 2: cook similar meals. We might have like five meals that
Speaker 2: we cycle through over the month and then we'll be like, no,
Speaker 2: let's try new stuff. But for me personally, I just
Speaker 2: I don't know if you hear anything like this, but
Speaker 2: food for me and my day is just like I've
Speaker 2: just got to eat. It's not really I'm going to
Speaker 2: sit down and enjoy a meal. It's like, just get
Speaker 2: it in me. I've got things to do.
Speaker 1: So I've often said it's kind of annoying having to
Speaker 1: eat sometimes yes, and other times, like on the Weekend Story,
Speaker 1: we enjoy it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm very like I've got my breakfast, my lunch,
Speaker 2: my dinner. I have them like pretty much prepped except
Speaker 2: my dinner.
Speaker 1: When do you prep?
Speaker 2: So I'll when I say prep, for example, well, i
Speaker 2: might cut up like a bunch of salad and then
Speaker 2: I'll take like a tin of tuna and some rice
Speaker 2: to the office and I'll like mix it all together
Speaker 2: and create and like a bit of balsamic and a
Speaker 2: bit of surata and like that's lunch. Breakfast is always
Speaker 2: quite easy, So it'd be like a bagel with egg
Speaker 2: whites or a scrambled eggs or something like that with
Speaker 2: like some rocket and stuff. And then a snack will
Speaker 2: like be an apple or a protein shake. And then
Speaker 2: dinner is always like salmon barramundy or like some sort
Speaker 2: of turkey mintce and like I'll just like put veg
Speaker 2: through it or something something just easy from the app.
Speaker 2: Like honestly, like so many of our recipes are like
Speaker 2: for ingredients, Like they are so just super simple, because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if any recipe has
Speaker 2: like more than like six things, I'm like, that's just
Speaker 2: not doing it, no, And it's a waste of money.
Speaker 2: You wete so much like produce, like buying all this
Speaker 2: random stuff that you like use once. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: very much about but I also enjoy health like healthy,
Speaker 2: I also enjoy the food I eat, So I'll have
Speaker 2: like a clippo every night or like a bit of chocolate.
Speaker 2: I'm very much a sweet.
Speaker 1: Tooth Gluepoo's like an ice cream is now, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Like yeah, but they're like icy ice creams, you know,
Speaker 2: so you got cream ice cream and an icy pole
Speaker 2: sort of thing.
Speaker 1: It's like an icy pol Yeah, quite.
Speaker 2: Sweet, like so I kind of go between them cyclones
Speaker 2: and then I have magnums as well.
Speaker 1: I was about to say I'm moving ice cream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so was I originally. But they're so low
Speaker 2: in calorie so you can have like them every night.
Speaker 2: It's like nothing, and they can have a couple of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like honestly love love that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for me, like food's super important because I'm
Speaker 2: not training as much as well, so I'm like if
Speaker 2: I if I am gonna be like oh not, you
Speaker 2: know not where I hear and they're about a session,
Speaker 2: I do make sure that my nutrition's like on point
Speaker 2: because especially like just getting enough food in what.
Speaker 1: About serving size? Yes, I think I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: when I say I probably the same amount as him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just because he serves me and then I
Speaker 1: just eat what's on my plates, Like what do I
Speaker 1: do here?
Speaker 2: So personally, I still weigh my food. So even though
Speaker 2: I don't track my food like as in like I
Speaker 2: don't count my calories anymore, but I'll still just like
Speaker 2: have a rough amount of what I'm eating. So for example,
Speaker 2: I always know I have like one twenty to one
Speaker 2: fifty gram of rice. I always have like one twenty
Speaker 2: to one.
Speaker 1: Fing Like, how do you weigh it?
Speaker 2: Just on the scale, So I'll put my plate on
Speaker 2: the scale, zero it out, and then just serve up
Speaker 2: on top of the plate because you don't eyeball it
Speaker 2: no obviously sometimes but if I am at home and
Speaker 2: I have access to it, I'm like, it's such an
Speaker 2: easy thing to control. That's just like it's very easy
Speaker 2: to over or under eat, and especially you'd be surprised
Speaker 2: even sometimes I under eat. So for me it's like
Speaker 2: also making sure I'm like eating enough of things, especially protein.
Speaker 2: But I find that just.
Speaker 1: Like the more you do it, too, the better you
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: Eyeballing, because everyone's like out of eyeball. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but do you.
Speaker 1: Even understand what weight?
Speaker 2: Have you ever understood what one hundred brands looks like,
Speaker 2: so I think that like doing that stuff early on,
Speaker 2: it'llow like I tracked for years, so like I now
Speaker 2: you've just made it habit. Yeah. Yeah, it's literally just
Speaker 2: a habit. Like I don't even think, not like realize
Speaker 2: I'm doing it. And like some people might be like
Speaker 2: I think that's obsessive, but I'm like anything can be
Speaker 2: obsessive if you want it to be.
Speaker 1: It's like at the end, it's also your relationship with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no if I want more, if I'm stafving,
Speaker 2: I don't be like nope, that's all, Like I will
Speaker 2: add more, but I'm just aware, Okay, I'm having a
Speaker 2: bit more like hey, yeah, I find it really interesting
Speaker 2: and I get it because there's a lot of like
Speaker 2: behavioral things that like attribute to emotional food issues. Right,
Speaker 2: I had some of them early on. But one thing
Speaker 2: that I think super important is like we're so happy
Speaker 2: to educate ourselves on everything else in life. Like you
Speaker 2: have a business problem, you're happy to read a book
Speaker 2: on it, or get a mental or understand that. If
Speaker 2: you go to university to become a doctor, you study it,
Speaker 2: you understand it. You have tests on it right. But
Speaker 2: then when it comes to food, we had this like
Speaker 2: kind of like negative thing about understanding what we're actually
Speaker 2: putting in our body.
Speaker 1: It's obsessive. Yeah, I don't want to, well, let's actually
Speaker 1: chat about this because I come from a disordered eating background. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where I was, you know, it was the whole you know,
Speaker 1: the skinny teams and all that shit on Instagram, and
Speaker 1: I a kind of developed just like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: bad habits, but I would argue they came from being
Speaker 1: not understanding, not educated, whereas now that I have education.
Speaker 1: In saying that, though, there was a time where I
Speaker 1: had to focus on healing like the damage that was.
Speaker 1: But now I feel like I'm at a really and
Speaker 1: also I'm going to be very honest with you. So
Speaker 1: you know, I've told my community that I'm on, you know,
Speaker 1: this challenge, But there was a thought in my mind
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't, you know, oh, should I
Speaker 1: be doing this. I don't want people to think they
Speaker 1: have to do challenges because I'm like very.
Speaker 2: A lifestyle approach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I felt like there was a time there
Speaker 1: where I got really sucked into just like obsessive behavior
Speaker 1: and like it being normalized, if that makes sense. But again,
Speaker 1: it's like you said, I had to think about it
Speaker 1: and like, well, I actually I am at the beginning
Speaker 1: of a journey and this is focusing on my health
Speaker 1: and it is something I want, just like I focus
Speaker 1: on my self development when I do read books and
Speaker 1: I do listen to certain podcasts like why wouldn't I,
Speaker 1: especially when it's from someone who I respect and I
Speaker 1: feel like does have a very balanced approach. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like mentally, it's like.
Speaker 2: What I find interesting. Rise. So when you do your
Speaker 2: courses for the girls, yes.
Speaker 1: You're manifesting process.
Speaker 2: There's things that they're required to do each day, right, correct,
Speaker 2: and they're accountable to them. Yeah, so that's how I
Speaker 2: kind of look at a challenge, right. So each day
Speaker 2: you have this sort of like person, even though it's
Speaker 2: not a person, but this is something that's sort of like,
Speaker 2: you know, I getting your water, have you done your steps?
Speaker 2: Have you done a workout today? How's your nutrition going?
Speaker 2: And it's kind of just like oh wow, Like for
Speaker 2: eight weeks, I am going to implement these new habits
Speaker 2: into my lifestyle. And at the end of the eight weeks,
Speaker 2: some girls like oh I saw no results or I
Speaker 2: didn't see enough for this. I'm like, okay, but do
Speaker 2: you now understand how much you sleep each night? How
Speaker 2: much water are you drinking compared to when you started?
Speaker 2: You know, what are your energy levels? Like It's like
Speaker 2: there is so much that you can learn from giving
Speaker 2: yourself a period where you actually force yourself to focus
Speaker 2: on implementing habits that you wouldn't necessarily do, just like
Speaker 2: your course, right, And then I'm sure that, like posts
Speaker 2: that course, those girls take those habits on and they
Speaker 2: have them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this. I also just had
Speaker 1: like an epithomy because this is something I talk about
Speaker 1: a lot with my course and especially when I market it,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a manifesting course. So I'm showing
Speaker 1: you pictures of like my car and my house. But
Speaker 1: then I tell the girls in the course, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I get you with those things. But then
Speaker 1: inside the course, like we're doing healing work, we're doing
Speaker 1: self development, we're doing things that it's not surface level,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's almost the same. In the
Speaker 1: fitness industry, you.
Speaker 2: Need to get people on board in order to help
Speaker 2: and educate them.
Speaker 1: Out and sometimes getting them on board is you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say problematic, but can be seen
Speaker 1: as obsessive or you know this and that polarizing, And
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I think if you do have emotional,
Speaker 1: unhealthy emotional behavior around food, tracking.
Speaker 2: Might not be best for you right now. And for a
Speaker 2: while that early on, I couldn't track. I'd be like
Speaker 2: so obsessed with the numbers I definitely want, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't the tracking, it was my emotions emotions around it.
Speaker 2: So it was like fixing that and understanding why I
Speaker 2: felt that way and stop labeling foods is bad and good,
Speaker 2: and like we talked about in our podcast, like you know,
Speaker 2: we look back at the generation of our moms and
Speaker 2: grandmas and everything was about weight loss, and everything was
Speaker 2: about these like obsessive fad diets. But it's like, so
Speaker 2: we need to be aware of why we feel the
Speaker 2: way we do before we can then go into maybe
Speaker 2: you know, tracking or doing whatever you know we want
Speaker 2: to do. But I think that sometimes unfortunately things get
Speaker 2: like a negative association, and I think, you know, it's
Speaker 2: probably more about actually fixing the behavior and the emotions
Speaker 2: around it.
Speaker 1: Ah. I love that and it's because as you were talking,
Speaker 1: when you were talking about the weighing your food, I
Speaker 1: was actually thinking because again I kind of put that
Speaker 1: in the basket of oh, that's obsessive. But it's funny though,
Speaker 1: because I was like, hmm, I wonder how much food
Speaker 1: I am eating and maybe I'm under it like I want.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not ender any guys, we can all agree
Speaker 1: because I eat the same as Tim, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: I actually do wonder and I think also I know myself,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I have progressed so much to
Speaker 1: myself that it's not like I would ever get to
Speaker 1: that point because I've come so far mentally.
Speaker 2: And it's just understanding it right, Like as I said,
Speaker 2: you might even do it for a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: and be okay, cool. Now I can I bail it
Speaker 2: pretty confidently and actually, you know, be able to eyeball it.
Speaker 2: But that whole like, I think, it's just there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with understanding what you're putting into your body. And
Speaker 2: as I said, if I'm hungry, it's not like I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh that one fifty elm the door, Like it's like
Speaker 2: I just like to know because then also if you're
Speaker 2: like I'm doing all of this stuff, but I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing the results, or I'm I'm not building as much muscle,
Speaker 2: I would like whatever it is, you can actually go
Speaker 2: back and be like, well, you can actually understand why
Speaker 2: instead of guessing.
Speaker 1: And also, for example, what a great thing is you
Speaker 1: know you're saying when you're weighing it and you are
Speaker 1: a bit hungry, you could probably also use that to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, this is interesting, like it is
Speaker 1: that time of the month. Yes, so, and we all
Speaker 1: know you need a bit more, you know, because you're
Speaker 1: losing energy. You need a bit more. And it's like
Speaker 1: having those tools and using it that way and just
Speaker 1: being aware. And this is something I say to you know,
Speaker 1: my RNC girls of when you have if let's talk,
Speaker 1: you know, limiting beliefs. When you have a limiting belief,
Speaker 1: it's being aware of it is literally the first step
Speaker 1: because now it doesn't have power of you. So it
Speaker 1: would say me food, Yeah, it's like hmm, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: rather than the behavior of automatically doing something.
Speaker 2: It's so funny you say that because I did a
Speaker 2: podcast honestly over a year now just about my relationship
Speaker 2: with food and how I've sort of progressed. And I
Speaker 2: used to say exactly that. I used to fear food.
Speaker 2: Food would control my God, I would I wouldn't go out.
Speaker 2: This was bad. I had a piece of chocolate. I
Speaker 2: was like, I've gained five kill like my like I
Speaker 2: love it process, Like my mind process was wild. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure so many people can relate to that. What
Speaker 2: actually freed me of that was doing these things and having.
Speaker 1: Those educating yourself.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I'm like, so if we cannot look at
Speaker 2: them in a negative light, like you said, you know,
Speaker 2: if we're feeling a certain way, we have our toolkit
Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, yeah, I'm being negative right now,
Speaker 2: but I'm I can be aware I'm being negative, and
Speaker 2: what are the steps I'm going to take to like
Speaker 2: sort of progress out of that. Well, it's exactly the
Speaker 2: same with food. It's like, you know, I'm feeling hungrier. Why,
Speaker 2: oh I'm on my period. Oh I'm actually gonna allow
Speaker 2: myself to have a little bit of food. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to feel guilty. You know. I think that it's
Speaker 2: so important to understand and be educated around those things
Speaker 2: in order to have and feel like control over them.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And I would argue to that education.
Speaker 1: You know, if you can have you know, the the
Speaker 1: awareness first, and then that education is you then have
Speaker 1: the decision. Yes, it's not like this automatic thing because
Speaker 1: you have the awareness first. Yeah. No, definitely, my head hurts. Okay, amazing.
Speaker 1: I love that little rant. What are your favorite busy
Speaker 1: girl snacks?
Speaker 2: Okay, my favorite busy girl snacks. I've actually been super random,
Speaker 2: but like into Have you had like the Milo bars
Speaker 2: with the white chocolate under them? No, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: they're so good. So I've been having those with like
Speaker 2: an apple, Like I'll often have that or like so randomly,
Speaker 2: so random.
Speaker 1: I'll have like I love Milo though.
Speaker 2: So look, have you got the protein Milo cereal? No,
Speaker 2: it's so good. You should get some if you're wanting
Speaker 2: something sweet at home. It has like quite high protein
Speaker 2: for Oh my god, you guys should do cereal.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, put on the list.
Speaker 2: Put on the list. That would be awesome. I'm like
Speaker 2: a bit of a cereal fiend.
Speaker 1: See I'm not. That's why my face is like, yeah.
Speaker 2: You weren't impressed. No, okay, okay, but yeah, like I'll
Speaker 2: often have a protein shake, honestly, tuna is just so easy.
Speaker 2: Being really into calm and sour dough crackers lately. Have
Speaker 2: you tried those? No? Oh, put them on put them
Speaker 2: on the list. Yeah, but like made up salads, overnight oats,
Speaker 2: those wheat big oats are like delicious.
Speaker 1: Love those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything that's just I can either prepare before or
Speaker 2: I can just grab out of my draw and go
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: Do you do the whole prep on Sunday or are
Speaker 1: your day to day preparer?
Speaker 2: I'm like a day to day girl in saying that
Speaker 2: nothing I prepare is like super complex, right, so I'll
Speaker 2: be like a shop on Sunday sort of girl, Like
Speaker 2: I'll have all my grocery shops on Sunday.
Speaker 1: You do your list?
Speaker 2: Yes, so I do get some assistance sometimes with my
Speaker 2: grocery shopping, so I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Tell us more.
Speaker 2: Sophia does my grocery shop? Oh that's your Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey pa, pa? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh love that, like honestly him does mine? See there
Speaker 1: we go honestly, But does she do it on a Sunday?
Speaker 2: No, she does a Monday morning.
Speaker 1: Okay, but like that, I was like.
Speaker 2: To the grocers, like no, so yeah, Monday morning I
Speaker 2: kind of have like all of my food for the week,
Speaker 2: and then because I'm away a lot as well, that's
Speaker 2: like it's pretty hard to make sure it's like enough
Speaker 2: or not too much and I'm wasting. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I know exactly what I'm going to have for that week,
Speaker 2: so I never eat planted out.
Speaker 1: Or you just like mentally no now because you've done
Speaker 1: it for so long.
Speaker 2: No, So I'll go through some of the recipes on
Speaker 2: the app. So yeah, for example, for a while there,
Speaker 2: I was loving that there's a like protein pancake crumble
Speaker 2: sort of thing, so good, so instead of like doing
Speaker 2: a protein pancake, you crumble it up.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's only out, you have to have it it.
Speaker 2: So that thought it was my breakfast. Tuna salad with
Speaker 2: rice is my lunch. And then I was having.
Speaker 1: Some to get the pack of rice or do you cook? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I just want to make sure. Yeah, okay, great,
Speaker 1: So we having a whole cup? Are we having half?
Speaker 2: No whole carp Okay? Yeah, are you having a I
Speaker 2: think so, yeah, it's only like one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: I think for a whole cup. Okay, yeah, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine. So yeah, so for me. Yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 2: like I definitely know what I'm going to be consuming
Speaker 2: throughout the week, and I think that's key. And as
Speaker 2: I said, I make it sound easy, but I've done
Speaker 2: it for so long.
Speaker 1: It's habits, it habits seconds, it's habits.
Speaker 2: Honestly, guys, I can't tell you how much time I've
Speaker 2: spent sort of like doing all of this.
Speaker 1: So it is quite easy for me now. And she's
Speaker 1: also bloody packaged up in an app for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the hard way, literally, No, I love and I
Speaker 1: love that the app is like very easy to read
Speaker 1: and like ingredients, wires and stuff. And that's what I
Speaker 1: did notice. I was like, oh, wow, these are actually
Speaker 1: retely simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can't really mess it up because I'm actually,
Speaker 2: you know, not the greatest cork guys. So if I
Speaker 2: can make these recipes, so can you love?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll get to my final question because I
Speaker 1: feel like we could talk for.
Speaker 2: Me, really could we?
Speaker 1: Really? We need to wrap. We've got things to do,
Speaker 1: businesses to run. For example. If someone is like, I
Speaker 1: do want to see change, So I want to see
Speaker 1: physical change. I obviously want to feel healthier, but I
Speaker 1: want to see physical change. What is your recommendation of
Speaker 1: them to do? So I'm kind of getting out here,
Speaker 1: like is it more important to work out? Is it
Speaker 1: more important with your food? Is it both? Like tell
Speaker 1: us tell us okay, so tell us tell us how
Speaker 1: to get results.
Speaker 2: So what I love about our community is obviously I
Speaker 2: get asked this a lot, right, And so it's like
Speaker 2: I always say, you need to find something that fits
Speaker 2: your lifestyle, because at the end of the day, if
Speaker 2: I was to give you maybe what fits my lifestyle,
Speaker 2: you would be like, well, this doesn't this is just
Speaker 2: not for me, right, And I always say the best
Speaker 2: plan is the plan you follow. So you need to
Speaker 2: be realistic with yourself. So the first thing I would
Speaker 2: do is actually understand what is your goal. So a
Speaker 2: lot of people I feel like they don't actually understand
Speaker 2: why they want to achieve things. So sometimes it's like
Speaker 2: I want to lose weight. I'm like, okay, but like
Speaker 2: how much weight? Like why? Like why do you want
Speaker 2: to lose weight?
Speaker 1: Or like what sort of You're like, I just want
Speaker 1: to feel sexy naked?
Speaker 2: Is that your goal?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, I just want to like feel good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't think I want to get back to like,
Speaker 1: it's not like I want to get back to like
Speaker 1: my pre baby body or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So you're allowed to say You're allowed to say that.
Speaker 1: I know, I think I've got some weird like you
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: It's a it's an interesting thing in the fitness industry
Speaker 2: at the moment. And I totally agree in that we
Speaker 2: are not purely focusing on the way we look. I
Speaker 2: always say, listen, you can have several goals at once,
Speaker 2: but there is nothing wrong with wanting to look or
Speaker 2: feel a certain way. And I think that there's kind
Speaker 2: of this like negative light on my how dare you
Speaker 2: want to change the way you look right now? It's
Speaker 2: like if you want to tidy things up a little bit,
Speaker 2: feel a little bit sexier. And I'm telling you now,
Speaker 2: it's not even going to be the physical that makes
Speaker 2: you feel that, but it's going to be like but
Speaker 2: following something consistent enough to be like it's a mindset
Speaker 2: thing and you're like, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: It's the routine, it's the confidence. And also I have
Speaker 1: this huge thing of committing to something, seeing it through
Speaker 1: and feeling so proud of myself. Yes, and there just
Speaker 1: has not been yet fact Yeah, And Also I love
Speaker 1: that you kind of validated me then, because I, you know,
Speaker 1: very much see myself as a role model. And it's
Speaker 1: not that I, you know, want to have a six
Speaker 1: pack or anything like that, but it's like I do
Speaker 1: want to, you know, feel good in my body and
Speaker 1: I want to feel good with my health, yes, And
Speaker 1: I just like I know that hasn't been a parity
Speaker 1: and it's just going Actually I want it to be
Speaker 1: a party now and it doesn't have to be a
Speaker 1: party forever. But it's also I kind of want to
Speaker 1: get back in the group because that's what happened previously
Speaker 1: and then it felt so easy and I like felt
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 2: Yep. And also just because it's one of your goals,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make it's your only goal. So part of
Speaker 2: your fitness journey is you might want to, for example,
Speaker 2: lose a bit of weight, but I think what you're
Speaker 2: saying is you kind of want to tidy things up
Speaker 2: a little bit. You want to have a bit more
Speaker 2: of a routine, and you want to feel sexy. And
Speaker 2: I guess proud that you are following something through which
Speaker 2: I always think is actually because how many times when
Speaker 2: you don't train for like five days I feel terrible
Speaker 2: and then you train one say I am a queen,
Speaker 2: I am a god. Yes, just it's actually proving to
Speaker 2: yourself that you can do something. I think is like
Speaker 2: where most of the confidence comes from.
Speaker 1: And also, to be completely honest, I notice such a
Speaker 1: difference in my mental health and my image of myself.
Speaker 1: What's that called?
Speaker 2: Like, Well, you're going to be your best for everyone
Speaker 2: around you when you feel your best?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Right? Yes, So okay, let's just say you're either wanting
Speaker 2: to so choose your goal number one, so actually figure
Speaker 2: out what that is, right, So let's figure out what's what.
Speaker 2: Let's put it down on paper. You can say it,
Speaker 2: no one is judging you, doesn't matter what your share.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, pop it down and know what that is?
Speaker 2: Right then? Obviously, when you are signing up for a
Speaker 2: programs like that, I love about app is like how
Speaker 2: many days can you actually commit to?
Speaker 1: Because for example, we have three, four, five training days.
Speaker 1: I love this too because like I did this with
Speaker 1: the first challenge and I picked four and then like
Speaker 1: two weeks and I went back and I changed it
Speaker 1: three because I was like, oh, look it's not happening.
Speaker 2: But three is fine, right, but it's like, at least acknowledge.
Speaker 1: Have the option and be realistic with yourself.
Speaker 2: Yes, otherwise you're constantly letting yourself down. It's like I'm
Speaker 2: going to go and put something that's so unrealistic on
Speaker 2: my goal list and then I'm going to fail it
Speaker 2: and then I feel like I failed. But instead of
Speaker 2: being like, guess what if you put down the lowest
Speaker 2: and then one week you might be I can do
Speaker 2: four And it's like, you know, like yeah, yes, so
Speaker 2: I think don't. Although we want to set big goals
Speaker 2: when we're trying to strategize how to get there, keep
Speaker 2: them realistic, right Yeah. So for example, so if.
Speaker 1: You'res and that's what I would argue with my fitness
Speaker 1: and health journey is it's all realistic. There's no big
Speaker 1: goals here, trust me.
Speaker 2: Which is would? Which is I think is like really
Speaker 2: important where most people go wrong because I set themselves
Speaker 2: up for failure just with a plan then not gonna follow.
Speaker 2: So so three sessions a week, you've got you locked
Speaker 2: into how much are you moving throughout the day.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get into daily walk, sometimes I don't, and
Speaker 1: then I'm sitting down most of the day.
Speaker 2: Okay, So very similar to that. I would highly recommend
Speaker 2: trying to understand I just use my iPhone or I
Speaker 2: do have oh you have an Apple work? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: what are your step check? What are your steps today?
Speaker 2: Sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Let me have a work three nine eight one.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's good.
Speaker 1: That's today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So for example, I don't again, I don't set.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone's like, you need ten thousand a day
Speaker 2: for me. I'm like, that's just not really a vibe
Speaker 2: for my lifestyle. Like I sit I'm like you, I
Speaker 2: sit down quite a bit. We drive most places when
Speaker 2: I'm in Adelaide, we walk. We walk a lot, so
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier. But for example, you might set
Speaker 2: like five to six thousand, and it's going to be
Speaker 2: for you. So you know, you're moving around with IVY
Speaker 2: like there's so much you're doing that you don't even realize.
Speaker 2: So even just like having an understanding, Okay, I want
Speaker 2: to move around that that much.
Speaker 1: I want to move conscious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be conscious of my movement each day
Speaker 2: because the activity that we're doing outside of exercise is
Speaker 2: actually attributes a lot when it comes to especially like
Speaker 2: weight losses, et cetera. Then, third to that, so we've
Speaker 2: got our exercise, our movement, and then we have our
Speaker 2: food food.
Speaker 1: What are your biggest obstacles not preparing? So Tim cooks,
Speaker 1: I had the same serving as him. So that's why,
Speaker 1: like mentally, I'm like it would actually be interesting to
Speaker 1: know how much I'm eating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah I might message you should with you.
Speaker 2: You should just do like a rough like week of
Speaker 2: what you're having, like just write it down and I
Speaker 2: can just like have a look at it for you.
Speaker 2: But also like just being a little bit accountable to
Speaker 2: what you're eating.
Speaker 1: And you know what on the weekend, I know you
Speaker 1: have waffles on a Saturday. Have your waffles on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: You know I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: People think you need to remove all this stuff, and
Speaker 2: it's like, no, you just need to have more of
Speaker 2: an understanding of like what you're actually having. Like every
Speaker 2: Friday night, I always love to get like, you know,
Speaker 2: just like a pizza or whatever like, and I have
Speaker 2: no problem doing that, Like I might eat out on
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Like I just am very aware of just
Speaker 2: like the portion of what I'm having over everything else.
Speaker 2: So probably just having like more accountability around food and
Speaker 2: more interest as.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was excited about. With these challenges.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I just I need some more ideas, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's like you can have something really
Speaker 1: simple and just to spend a bit more time preparing,
Speaker 1: like so for example today, And this is interesting because
Speaker 1: something that I will often do is like skip breakfast
Speaker 1: because it's a time thing, and then lunch comes and
Speaker 1: I'm like so ravenoush And then I'll like then feel
Speaker 1: sick or order uber eats or something like that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, just be a bit more fucking consistent.
Speaker 2: Or like because I'm a bit guilty sometimes, like if
Speaker 2: i start earlier at work or whatever, like I'll order
Speaker 2: breakfast to work, but I'll know exactly what I'm ordering,
Speaker 2: so I'll have like avocado on toast and a protein shake,
Speaker 2: which I mean, girl, you're in a I know you're
Speaker 2: in a supplement.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you think you are.
Speaker 2: But like that's so easy and you kind of you
Speaker 2: can kind of like that have a one toast, can't
Speaker 2: really go wrong. It's when you start to order these
Speaker 2: like meals that can have very much added to them
Speaker 2: that it's like that's just a little bit hard. To
Speaker 2: sort of understand what you're eating. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: if you weren't on this journey, I wouldn't say like,
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life you need to do this.
Speaker 2: But if you have a goal, there are certain things
Speaker 2: you need to sort of be accountable to, and a
Speaker 2: little bit of discipline in any area of our life
Speaker 2: doesn't go astray when we do have like tighter goals
Speaker 2: that we want to achieve. Right, And then how do
Speaker 2: you sleep with Ivy? She is? She pretty good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? She sleeps like told so?
Speaker 2: So water is tick?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So then really, for you, I think it's not
Speaker 2: even anything. It's not anything extreme. And this is what people.
Speaker 1: Think really is.
Speaker 2: It's the little things, right, It's these little things that
Speaker 2: if you just focused in on them a little bit
Speaker 2: and we're a little bit more accountable and aware, because
Speaker 2: then it's like, Okay, you might say, oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: really reaching my goals, but it's like you can look
Speaker 2: back and be like, oh, okay, well I am doing this,
Speaker 2: or you can understand why. I think the worst feeling
Speaker 2: is when you're like I'm doing everything right, what's you know,
Speaker 2: what's going wrong? But I think that this is like
Speaker 2: a really exciting time for you in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like I'm excited too, because again it's
Speaker 1: not like it's high up in my goals thing, but
Speaker 1: it's definitely I want it to be a priority. And
Speaker 1: just like, for example, you know when I got a
Speaker 1: business coach and it was like for my business and
Speaker 1: I had no issues with doing that. It's a similar
Speaker 1: situation where you know, I feel like I'm a beginning again.
Speaker 1: I beginner again, so I want to have that like motivation.
Speaker 1: I want to have some sort of guidance, so of
Speaker 1: course I'm going to seek out help. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to kind of just get back into that.
Speaker 1: And you're getting a home Jim set up. Yes, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I got set up yesterday. I'll have to
Speaker 1: send you a photo.
Speaker 2: Yes, such a good idea. Yes, I'm big on. Even
Speaker 2: when I'm at Toby's, he has just like an apartment gym,
Speaker 2: and honestly, like it's so convenient to just have I
Speaker 2: even have like a little treadmill in my house and
Speaker 2: like just for a movement. For example, Nellie's obviously got
Speaker 2: her like had her surgery, so I feel guilty going
Speaker 2: for a walk, So I'll often just jump on early morning,
Speaker 2: you know, get my movement in. I think it's just
Speaker 2: about like having the cans right, and obviously not everyone
Speaker 2: can have a home gym, but you don't need much
Speaker 2: to be able to work out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Tim's like fully decked out. He also wants
Speaker 1: to do gym while Ivy naps because they're in this
Speaker 1: like whole big thing of like when he can fit
Speaker 1: and this is like, this is a really interesting thing
Speaker 1: of Tim actually stopped going to gym pretty much since
Speaker 1: I he's been born, so what was that nine months?
Speaker 1: And like mentally he has just felt so shit and
Speaker 1: like really not himself because that used to be a
Speaker 1: huge aspect of he would go to the gym like
Speaker 1: three to four, et cetera. And so we're doing this
Speaker 1: also for him so he can feel good. And again
Speaker 1: it's not like anything to do with you know, his
Speaker 1: physical body, but he's like also you know him doing
Speaker 1: Jim it helps testosterone, it helps like or his hormones,
Speaker 1: it helps like regulate things.
Speaker 2: We underestimate that like even you know, it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: how many times you tell Tim here's this and that
Speaker 2: he needs to feel about himself to feel just like
Speaker 2: you need to feel it. Like, we can't rely on
Speaker 2: other people to make us feel a certain way, right,
Speaker 2: we need to do the things in life. And obviously
Speaker 2: without him even probably knowing like health is probably a
Speaker 2: very high value of his.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's like for me, I know, health is when
Speaker 2: I feel most not myself, is when I'm not like
Speaker 2: living up to my values.
Speaker 1: I'm not an alignment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so for me, I'm like, I need to
Speaker 2: know that I'm doing these little things each day that
Speaker 2: make me feel like I'm the best for me. And
Speaker 2: I think that's super powerful for your relationships.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well even like it's just like we had a
Speaker 1: great talk about this because for example, we both have
Speaker 1: never drunk like regularly, and like recently, like he's been
Speaker 1: having like one or two beers every single night, as
Speaker 1: like he's like he's wine. Yeah, he's honestly like and
Speaker 1: how crazy I is? And I'm like, no, bro, I knows.
Speaker 1: But then he's like, I realized it's now habit and
Speaker 1: I just look to do it every single night. And
Speaker 1: so he's like, I need to just get back to
Speaker 1: my healthy habits, which is my gym, which he's planning
Speaker 1: to do during Ivy's nap, and he's also getting back
Speaker 1: into his morning meditation because he's noticing like his patients
Speaker 1: wearing the wearing thin and he's like, I need to
Speaker 1: get back with meditations for Ivy. But again, it's like
Speaker 1: it's a habit. And that's why I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: the challenges because I know once I like get these
Speaker 1: habits sorted, it would just like keep happening. It's just
Speaker 1: like that initial.
Speaker 2: It's always the hardest part is that initial step. But
Speaker 2: like I promise you, you will feel like so much
Speaker 2: better about yourself and you will take so much away
Speaker 2: from doing it. And I feel like, just like in business,
Speaker 2: sometimes like in fitness, I'm only saying this the other
Speaker 2: day to someone, I was like, sometimes you just gotta
Speaker 2: check in on yourself. Like I was starting to like
Speaker 2: finish my sprints five seconds early. I was starting to like,
Speaker 2: you know, not finish my reps, like just little things
Speaker 2: are I'm like, Rachel, come on, like you're just you're
Speaker 2: slacking a little bit, like like in being very honest
Speaker 2: with your yeah, checking and actually being like a bit accountable.
Speaker 2: And so for me, I'm like, no, you need to
Speaker 2: like thought your shit a bit, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that's always an eight. I'm the biggest persons, like be
Speaker 2: kind to yourself always, but also if you want to
Speaker 2: be the best you, sometimes you have to be.
Speaker 1: The one to you know, like check in a bit
Speaker 1: of tough love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So, and I think we're going to
Speaker 2: set up a session. Yes, yes, can we?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm scared, but I'm excited.
Speaker 2: So good.
Speaker 1: No, I'm so excited. Well, I feel like we should rap.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gone for a long time. Love,
Speaker 1: I hope you're still listening if you are, Thanks for
Speaker 1: staying around, Rachel. Thank you so much for coming in
Speaker 1: the potty studio and chatting to us and giving us
Speaker 1: the the pep talk and the motivation we need to
Speaker 1: be our bestselves. Thank you to do the damn thing.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited.
Speaker 2: I'm excited for you. Thank you so much fun having
Speaker 2: me in your beautiful office. I love it. I think
Speaker 2: so you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Rachel Goes. You designed this to you, like,
Speaker 1: can you tell it's so Georgie? And yes, and guys,
Speaker 1: I will keep you updated on how I go in
Speaker 1: the Busy hour challenge. Yeah, I'm excited and it's cool
Speaker 1: because I've told everyone now in the podcast studio, so
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm going to be checking, like, well out
Speaker 1: what's happening. No, it sounds so good. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for Rachel. It's been a pleasure always. Thank you
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