WEBVTT - Kween Kong - RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE: DOWN UNDER - Performer 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:03.640 TV Reload, the podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.040 Last Weep Thebine. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.800 Welcome back guys to TV Reload. As you may know, 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.880 my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.400 to get all the inside goss all the popular TV 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.640 shows you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.440 our TV set's are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.400 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.560 shows get made. 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We are lucky enough to get 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.320 some piping hot tea from her experiences at the Australian 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.639 TV Awards Night of Knights. Kong will also share their 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:06.160 thoughts on Season three and the New Queens. There's a 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.720 few spoilers for episode two in the chat, which happens 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.600 at the back end, so make sure you have watched 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.920 this week's episode, which you can catch up on STAN. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:14.560 Australia. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.399 Queen Kong is the stage name of one of New 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.800 Zealand's most prolific drag performers who now calls Australia home. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.200 They are based in Adelaide and also they managed to 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.480 win the Drag Nation Australia Award. Kong is of Samoen 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.520 and Tong and descent and has been an amazing ambassador 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.679 talking about people of color and the importance of their 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.039 recognition right across New Zealand and Australia. I will find 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.720 out how Kong's nomination went down with her fellow contestants 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.640 and why she thoughts Fanky Jackson might have missed out. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.040 Kong shares their thoughts on season three and why she 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.160 thinks this season is actually quite different to her season. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.680 We will discuss if Australian Queens will ever be considered 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.800 for American All Stars and why Kong would say no 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.560 to returning to the work. And plus we will get 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.600 plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of Ruepoul's Drag 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.000 Race Down Under, which you can now catch up on 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.240 on Stan Australia. Anyway, guys, let's bring Queen into the 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.120 podcast and I hope you really enjoy this special look 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.800 at RuPaul's Drag Race down Under. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.239 Like, Queen Kong, how are. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.280 You hey, I'm good? Thanks? Any Well, I didn't want 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:19.960 a LOGI. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.840 Or a Crown, but hey, I'm one of the bookings. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.360 I'm one of the bookings, so suck on that, Amy Shark. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.040 I thought it was really amazing that you got this 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.280 LOGI nomination. But I also was talking about this amongst 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.680 my friends. Is it a little strange that you get 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.720 the LOGI nomination when you weren't the winner? Or do 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.000 you think it has a lot to do with the 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.359 fact that you're from Australia or that you've done a 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:42.560 lot more with your time? 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.160 What do you think the rationale is? 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.280 Oh? Well, I think my work speaks for itself. The 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:46.840 past year, I. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.360 Think, out of all the girls, like I've kind of 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.600 streamlined like a loss until winning everything. I think outside 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.680 of the show, and I mean that in the most 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.480 obnoxious way possible. Like I've had all the book, Like 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.840 I've been the ambassador of like pretty much every festivals 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.520 sort of Sydney Wood Pride, I sort of Adelaie French Festival, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.600 did lots of like endorsements, And I think in terms 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.240 of what I spoke about on the show, in terms 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.040 of POC representation, like in my own sort of platform, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.840 I'm just trailblaze that kind of platform here in Australia, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.120 even more so with the momentum of drag Grace. So 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.920 I think the acknowledgment from the you know, the nomination 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.040 was definitely well deserved on my part. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.160 But also it's so great to see drag. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.919 I was the only drag queen on that red carpet 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.880 and in that room, so you could have missed me 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.560 because I'm seven foot five beasts, So I'm happy that 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:30.920 we could be there represent Do. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.200 We know if RuPaul was invited to the logis and 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.520 could you imagine if Rue had gone. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.760 Oh my god, I I would imagine that they would 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.200 have definitely invited a Roue and Michelle definitely she wouldn't 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.080 have come. She busy they're doing like a hundred seasons 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.000 of drag Race, like in five weeks. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.320 I I don't actually love it. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.080 So they're in Bangladesh right now. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.480 Yeah yeah, literally, soon they're going to be drag Race. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.480 It'll be like drag Race suburbs soon, like the big 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.920 thoughts still the country, that'll be like drag Race Banks to. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.560 Well, you know, I was this is how I knew 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.360 how you'd penetrated with the Australian audience was when I 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.520 was driving past my bus stop over the last twelve months. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.240 From a large part of the year, you were on 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.400 the billboard. You were the bustle on the billboards. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.920 So well, that's spitting. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.359 It's part of my brand because I was a struggle 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.760 bus for my season and since the show, I'm now 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:21.440 just the bus. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.159 So makes sense. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.840 Can we talk about the logis in this sense of 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.080 was it a fun night? Like you know, you would 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.120 have had a huge expectation of what it was going 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.240 to be, but then what was the reality? 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.680 Oh, I actually had no expectations. Because the thing is, 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.280 it's like, and I said this on Susan, I was 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.880 like in your press, I was just like, I actually 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.680 had no idea what the logis were before I was 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.599 nominated because AI am from New Zealand originally, but also 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.080 with streaming sites and everything, I don't necessarily watch TV anymore, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.200 and so this has been such a crash sort of 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.960 course in New Zealand means in Australian media. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:54.840 So yeah, I. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.000 Think this whole experience has been wild being there on 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.200 the night, like I didn't necessarily know how big it 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.080 was and like how big of a deal it was 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.200 until sort of seeing that I needed a pass to 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.640 get onto the red carpet. I was like, I'm Queen 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.520 Congo was nominated. They're like, no, you need to pass, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.720 and I was like, oh, this is legit period. I'll 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:13.080 be right back. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:13.880 I'm going to get my path. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.680 Bitches getting dressed up like this for no reason, let 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.200 me onto the red carpet without. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.600 The Oh well, look, I think we both saw this 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.440 stuff about Susan Mattessi's. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.119 The shade is real. Do you know what is so? 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.160 Do you know what really makes me sad is that 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.839 I don't didn't know who she was before she was 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.240 on the Challenge. Then I watched on the Challenge, I 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.160 was like, you know, you're great on the show, but 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.599 then ever since then, I watched her dough Facebook lives 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.400 and she's supposed to have like a million followers, but 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.279 only three people turn up for her lives. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.919 Oh my goodness, that's true. It's so tricky because it's like, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.760 oh my god, like just just I don't know if 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.480 you heard what happened with the logis, but like the partner, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.400 she had run onto the red carpet without that invitation 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.000 after buying a general admission ticket allegedly and and a 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:57.479 storm to. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:58.040 Take a photo. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.680 And it's so trigging because there's that side of the industry. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.000 But I'm just starting to understand because for me, it's 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.680 like all of it's new, like you know what I mean, Like, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.880 and I think I'm always going to stay humble in 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.040 the regard that I just don't take myself seriously and 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.960 don't think like, no, I don't like ego, so that 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.320 there was a lot of egos there on the night, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.479 and I just ignored the egos that I could see. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.039 And you know, it's just a it's a tricky and 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.679 a slimy industry in some regards, but it was amazing 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.520 to be there to celebrate Australian medium or the people 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:25.640 that were nominated and won. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.760 It's nice to be on the side where you're invited 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.520 and you're not the crazy person who has not just 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.680 on the red carpet. It happened to me with my 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.919 series of Big Brother. One of the other girls that 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.720 came in the top three, she wasn't invited, and she 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.800 got a press organized. She turned up the logis and 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.719 the thing was, they only invite the winner of back 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.880 in those days. And then it happened that this girl, Laila, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.560 who came second, she was on a celebrity apprentice, so 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.560 she was invited for a different show. Why this girl 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.719 of Stelle was disappointed. But I couldn't imagine buying the 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.800 dress and just getting on the red because they walked 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:00.640 aroun off the red. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.400 Harbet, holy crap. That would I would? I would, but 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.280 also I would die, But also I would. I just 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.200 wouldn't go if I wasn't, you know what I mean, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.640 I because you know Hannah and Spanky, I would would have. 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:12.800 They're both my best friends, and obviously we're the top three. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.160 They're my best friends in the whole world, and we 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.640 all wanted to be there, and so they obviously couldn't 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.400 come because they couldn't get an inby because it's so 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.960 limited in this capacity. So they were there in spirit, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.160 and me and Hannah did a massive drinks in my 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.160 hotel room, had the start before I went down to 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.720 the red carpet. So, yeah, it was so tricky seeing 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.480 that side of the industryhere people just trying to get 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.559 in front of the camera and being in the front. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.480 You know, I'm kind of learning that. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.360 You know, there's a there's a strategy to it, but 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.280 it's also just like very My soul dies every time 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.160 I hear things like that, running into a red carp 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:41.000 and being discorded. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.120 What is the magic though, between the three of you, 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.080 because Hannah and Spanky and yourself, I mean, individually you're 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.360 all fierce queens and you're so at the top of 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.240 your game, and normally when you find people in a 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.680 position like that, there'd be some competitiveness or you would 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.160 have fallen out by now. But we all know that 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.960 the three of you have this real sisterhood. What's the 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:03.760 magic behind that? 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.440 Oh, you know, I think above above the trauma bond 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.360 that we sort of tiloped on drag Race, I think, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.040 you know, aside from the riot fate, it was so fair. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.440 But I think aside from that, like we all just 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.720 genuinely aside from love, you know, I think it's easy 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.760 to love people. Like for the most part, we have 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.960 such a like an utmost respect for each other. You know, 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.120 we know who we are individually. We've also been around, 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.520 like Spank has been around longer than us. Obviously she's 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:33.560 just way way older, but like weg Yeah, definitely she 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.240 sees interest stripes, that's sure. But the three of us, 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.800 we've been doing our things in our own fields, you know, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.840 for over decades, and so you know, we know what 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.240 we what our strengths are, We know all those kinds 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:45.600 of things. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.719 So like when we're around each other, you know, I 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:48.199 was just with. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.480 Such a Colby like a couple of weeks ago, and 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.840 like she's like my soul sister. We're both from the 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.199 from the spacific, you know, and we just like get 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.319 each other. But she said it to me perfectly, She says, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.600 Goddess sees Goddess, you know, like you understand each other. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.160 You know that you're different. And I don't ever feel 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.520 threatened by anyone that's talented in their regard because I 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.720 don't think they're talent Trump's mind, and I think the 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.880 three of us really kind of believe in those values 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.880 and just love each other. You know, we know that 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.440 drag Race was such a pervotal part of our career, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.280 but I think it was more like a bonding experience 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.920 for us personally, which I think is more rewarding than 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.360 winning a crown or a LOGI I just do. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.880 What I keep thinking of is I remember when they 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.560 were gossiping about who was going to be in season 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.200 two of down Under and your name came up a 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.480 few times. And obviously I've been in your audience before 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.839 you're on drag you know, you had been around for 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.040 a while, and I just remember everyone who was in 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.040 the industry, your industry, saying how lovely you were, and 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.560 I was like, it's a hard thing to stay humble 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.240 in such a competitive industry, but you have that integrity 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:53.200 somehow maintained. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.719 I don't know how you're doing it. I'd be I. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.800 Think, you know, like, I think that the trick is 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:59.520 and I think this is like really good text for 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.079 the season three girls, and I've been trying to help 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.880 them whenever they needed things. I think, you know, the 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.680 trick is to keep your circle very tight because you know, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.439 all kinds of people are going to come out of 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.360 the woodworks and want to jump on the success train, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.719 especially if you do well. Just be weary of like 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.000 the energy that you keep around you. I literally, on 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.320 like two hands can count how many friends I would 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.840 call friends and people that I actually like have around 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.040 me at all times. And Spanking and Hannah definitely two 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.720 of those people. My family are very humble. So as 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.520 soon as I walk through the toils and the house 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.880 that I bought us in Melbourne, like, doesn't mom Yeah, literally, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:30.560 my mom doesn't give. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:31.199 A shit who I am. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.280 She's like, yeah, do the ditchers or like I've got 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.200 a decent a nephew, and it's like nappies, you know, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.920 Like I'm literally not the celebrity in my house. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.400 I'm just like Mom, I don't leave here anymore. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.240 I know literally, I'm not just chaking cooked in out. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.200 Like you know what I mean. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.920 So I think all that kind of stuff really like helps, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.280 But also I just think naturally, like I don't check 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.000 myself like that seriously outside of drag. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.520 I think I take my drags. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.800 Seriously, but I don't really take myself seriously because I'm 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.720 just a kad like to be honest. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.959 Sometimes want to tell people though when you when you're 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.880 winning in life, you want to tell everyone to get 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.000 in the boat. You know, you get this boat, And 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.240 what people don't realize is that the boat is actually 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.200 really flimsy. It looks beautiful and it's very trucking. So 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.000 you want to like tell everyone to get in the boat, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.880 but the boat will sink if you. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.680 Absolutely people, you know. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:18.040 So true. I love that. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.920 Oh my god, such a great analogy. And it's and 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:20.480 it's also true. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:20.679 I think. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.280 I think, I think like with something like reality TV 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.120 or like something like yeah, it is very like it's quick, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.160 you know what I mean, Like you do this definitely 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.000 get your fifteen minutes of fame. And I think with 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.480 some of the girls somehow season and also the previous season, 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.360 I think most of them were kind of bidding on 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.680 drag race to bring things in for them. And with 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.120 the reality is it's like you've got the public eye 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.120 on you. Now you have to work ten times harder. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.839 And so you know, if anyone that knows me and 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.360 is around me, like how do Spanky can. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.199 Attest to this? That's why we're still friends. Up to 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:46.800 the local. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.439 Nomination, you know, because I was thanking been like that 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.760 you last I wipe the ground spanky goes you know 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.280 what I mean, like spank you seeing me work like 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.640 an absolute slave, like you know, and sees that like 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.480 everything that I that I've wanted, like I'm not letting 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.680 anyone are waiting on anyone to bring it to me. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.440 And I think that comes down to being a queen 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.000 of color in Australia and always having to create my 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.199 own opportunities. And I think the thing about Drag Race, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.439 it's like it's short, it's filmed over a short period 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.400 of time, and like I think, if you're in the 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:13.880 right alignment hid like. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.920 Mentally and emotionally, like you can go really fine. I did, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.480 I do. I did well for the most part. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.760 But I think, you know, my version of where I 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.640 was at at the time was just like I was 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.520 so in my head, like there was a lot of. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.240 Things going on for. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.040 Me personally and mentally before I'd even gone into the show. 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.120 And then they put us in isolation for two weeks, 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.160 which killed me. And that's why me, me and many 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:35.640 were fucking nuts because like sitting in our fucking little 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.839 room like of isolation before going into drag Race, like 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.240 Spanky walked in happy because that bitch didn't have to 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.160 sit there and look at a box and get. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:48.320 Custofied two going so like I think for me, like 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:49.160 I was so. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.480 Proud of spanking pointing because before all of us and Hannah, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:53.199 Hannah won two. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.000 The three of us were equally deserving. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.920 But Spanky did so well on the show, and I 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.959 think her like seeing someone like her when Drag Race 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.920 at the time when she won, Like you know, up 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.120 until then, it's just always been about how much money 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.640 you spend, how many designers you were, you know, how 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.480 many like how amazing your wigs are. Like Spanky literally 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.640 walked in the trash bags and like from day one, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.880 episode one, people were like, what the fuck is there? 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.640 And then like by episode two, RuPaul got it and 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.559 through Paul understands, she goes, but that's Spanky Jackson. Then 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.959 all the little children like writing in her comments need 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.719 to quiet because mamas the one that signed the check. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.360 So yeah, it does sort of happen though, like in 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.960 a lot of reality shows, you know when someone might win, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.679 but it's like if you come second or third, you 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.000 have more fire. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:37.280 In your belly. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.240 I think I think, you know, I'm going to try, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.160 and you know, I think it was a missed opportunity. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.560 But I'm going to get away from the logis, but 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.439 I just want to say it was a real missed 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.800 opportunity to not have the three of you perform. I 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.040 would have preferred that over Amy Shark, and I felt 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:53.040 so bad. And this is no shade to Amy. I've 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.440 interviewed her a number of times and she's an incredible person. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.559 But it's a beautiful person, a beautiful person. But that 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:00.720 before Romans. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.400 Yeah, look, look. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.840 It just wasn't It's not a spanky Hannah queen performance. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.199 Like, well, look like if they had us, I was like, apparently, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.679 like new talents these days, there's six arias and a 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:11.840 few albums. 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.600 So look great for that. If I knew that, I 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:14.839 was like. 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.640 Well, listen, give me a couple more years because we're 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.360 definitely developing new music. But I think also too with 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.960 with with missing out on like just being there obviously 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.440 to represent not only the drag community, but the queer community, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.120 especially in a political time like this when drag is 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.320 being so like fucking drug through the mud with so 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.000 many people just attaching all of this propaganda, and it 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.320 is coming from you know, the governments, like and this 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:36.720 is like definitely. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.520 A cup and copy of what's happening in the US. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.920 You know, all of the fearmong green drag queens agreements 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.040 and drag queens this, and it's like, you know, the 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.880 last thing we want to do is groomy kids like 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.400 spanking Billy wants to groomers out. How the fuck are 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:48.400 we going to do that, you know what I mean? 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.320 But so I think, you know, like just being there, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:51.840 I think. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.920 From the logi's perspective, it was good that they. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.920 Acknowledged like me and acknowledged my community, and you know. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.320 They're seeing us as artists. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.560 But I think it would be ridiculous dumb of them 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.360 not che acknologust because we're not going anywhere and my plans, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.040 you know, at one point we're going to be back 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.240 there winning a LOGI and the people that didn't want 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.760 to start, Yeah, Gold, they will be wanting to come. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:14.640 Yeah it's yours, queen class. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.640 I would just dress as a Gold Logi. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.680 But it was Nonetheless, it was amazing and Amy Shark 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.120 did a great job, and she has. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.920 Been around for a while, so she deserved to she's. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.080 Been around for a while. That's right. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.480 She doesn't deserve a new new talent get out of 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.080 a category, mate, Like I know. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.040 I was like, wow, look that is what it is. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.440 And bless her and her little the sil LOGI and 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.280 I'm sure to look nice next to this areas. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.560 That's all she got to shelf for it. Yeah, exactly right, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:42.040 there you go. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.480 I want to talk about season three because it's in 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.960 full screen, and you know, is it weird when a 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.880 new season starts. I remember with Big Brother there was 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.800 a season started after mine and I was still on 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.920 the ride, so I wasn't upset about it. I was like, great, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.440 bring more people in. But then when I knew that 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.480 the and the series after me was full of assholes 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.400 by then, the third time the series that came up 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.960