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Speaker 2: Because when I think of that, it's like when I

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media personality and

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Speaker 3: personal development junkie. This podcast is for my girl gang

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Speaker 3: who want to feed their mind with positive and expansive

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Speaker 3: thoughts to help them step into their power and live

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Speaker 3: their most authentic life. We chat a variety of topics

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Speaker 3: including mindset, business, relationships, health, and so much more. Basically,

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Speaker 3: wherever you are on your journey, I want to help

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Speaker 3: you feel inspired and empowered to rise up and conquer

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Speaker 3: your next bold move. I know that's going to look

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Speaker 3: different for everyone, but just know I'm right here by

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Speaker 3: your side and that you have the RNC community behind you.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome back to the Rise and Conker Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 3: I am joined by someone who I'm sure needs no introduction,

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Speaker 3: Ellie Bullen or you may know her as Else's Wholesome

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Speaker 3: Life on Instagram. Ellie is an Instagram sensation, mostly known

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Speaker 3: for her amazing plant based food photography, her beautiful baby

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Speaker 3: on Instagram. So Ellie is a qualified nutritionist and dietitian

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Speaker 3: They look literally incredible, and in this episode we get

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Speaker 3: their online store, The Wholesome Store, and we also dive

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Speaker 1: Let's get straight into the show.

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Speaker 3: Ellie, Welcome to the Rise and Conker Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited you're here in my house. We actually

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Speaker 1: Close, I know, just down the road, Ellie said. She

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Speaker 3: Well let's get straight into the show. So I'm so

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Speaker 3: your cookbooks, the Wholesome Store, being a new mum and yeah,

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Speaker 3: want to ask you what is your favorite quote to

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Speaker 2: I really like the quote you are creating the life

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Speaker 2: of your dreams because when I think of that, it's

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And so for the listeners who don't know who you are,

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Speaker 1: The ones always so.

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Speaker 2: My name is Ellie Watson and I am a dietitian

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Speaker 2: and nutritionist. I've published two cookbooks here in Australia. I

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Speaker 1: Is that a good summer? And I have a baby.

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Speaker 3: So he's literally, guys, he's literally you probably pulls him

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Speaker 2: And then for a cookbook, I needed over one hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just it's like very kind of like

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Speaker 3: It's just like a really cool place where you can

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Speaker 3: And so you guys, you guys fully you know, have

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Speaker 2: need to move like right now, and then like the

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Speaker 2: volume is stopped coming. I was like, it's not going

444
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: to fit in your mum's house and we've got to

445
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Speaker 2: just like take that step. And it literally like happened

446
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Speaker 2: in like days. Wow, we need to hire. We couldn't

447
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Speaker 2: even go down there to get that. We need to hire,

448
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: remove list to come and move it all up here,

449
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: and then we're like, Okay, tomorrow we've got a higher stuff.

450
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: We've got to train them, and like we've got a baby.

451
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Speaker 4: Jew in a couple of weeks, Like it was like

452
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Speaker 4: all just yeah, twenty twenty was a lot.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just snowballed really quickly.

454
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Speaker 2: And so the rest of twenty twenty was pretty hectic

455
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Speaker 2: and busy, lots of launchers products, yeah.

456
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Speaker 1: Taking out so much time.

457
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Speaker 2: But now this year, I feel like it's like, Okay,

458
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Speaker 2: things are starting to you know, we can start get

459
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Speaker 2: organized and planning.

460
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Speaker 3: And I think any like first or second year of

461
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Speaker 3: a business, like I kind of feel the same with

462
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Speaker 3: Naked Harvest in the way of like the first and

463
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 3: second year, I felt like I was just always running,

464
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Speaker 3: like just always catching up, always trying to get on

465
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Speaker 3: top of things, just like doing doing, doing, And then

466
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Speaker 3: now we've kind of had you know, like a good

467
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Speaker 3: year of that.

468
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Speaker 1: It's like, all right, we've got a bit of a foundation.

469
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Speaker 3: Now we can actually like slow down and be more

470
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Speaker 3: like think.

471
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Speaker 1: About things more than you do it. You plan, Yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: where's the first year?

473
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Speaker 3: It's like you don't have time to think, you just

474
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Speaker 3: have to like constantly do do do.

475
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Speaker 2: A big thing for us was like a season would

476
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Speaker 2: hit and then we'd be like, you know, you sort

477
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: of underestimate how long it takes to develop and design,

478
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Speaker 2: sample and get produced products. And then planning around seasonal

479
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 2: events or seasons. You're like, that's a whole other thing,

480
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Speaker 2: Like you got to start planning early, and we don't

481
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Speaker 2: have a background in.

482
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Speaker 1: You know, that whole world.

483
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Speaker 2: So for us, we like had to be learning step

484
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Speaker 2: of like, Okay, we need to start pre planning launchers,

485
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Speaker 2: pre planning the collections around seasons. Yeah, still working on

486
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Speaker 2: but yeah that's actually just learning stuff.

487
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Speaker 1: As you as you go.

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Speaker 3: Like me and me and Elliott were just saying offline

489
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Speaker 3: when we had a chat before this podcast that yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: we very much both don't come from business backgrounds. We're

491
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Speaker 3: very much just like learning as we go, but with

492
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Speaker 3: the same and naked harvests like this.

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Speaker 1: This year, our.

494
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Speaker 3: Goals for twenty twenty one was to be ahead, not

495
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Speaker 3: always catching up, because I think there's like it's huge

496
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Speaker 3: to like be on top. Like you said this, seasons

497
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Speaker 3: like have product coming out at certain times and.

498
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Speaker 1: You'd have to plan it.

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Speaker 2: We take it summer and like, yes, in some of

500
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Speaker 2: everyone's thinking about smoothies again, and come winter it's like porridge. Yeah,

501
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: so you've got to think about your products and how

502
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Speaker 2: you're going to market them in the seasons and.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you can kind of be on top

505
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Speaker 3: of things, it's you're not like constantly racing and feeling

506
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Speaker 3: like you're drowning and outsourcing when it's your own company,

507
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Speaker 3: it's like it's your baby, and you want everything to

508
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Speaker 3: be perfect and done a certain way.

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Speaker 1: And then it gets to a point.

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Speaker 2: Where you've got to just accept that you can hire

511
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Speaker 2: people to help and they can do like just as good.

512
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Speaker 1: As a job, and you can outsource.

513
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Speaker 3: Letting go of control is huge, isn't it. So yeah,

514
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Speaker 3: tell us more about outsourcing in the Wholesome store.

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Speaker 1: What have you kind of done with that recently? Well,

516
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Speaker 1: we hired warehouse staff to help us.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then so we've got three Now we've just

518
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Speaker 2: got Alex's mum up here full time with us, which

519
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: is amazing, so should be our full.

520
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Speaker 1: Time warehouse manager.

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Speaker 2: It just means that Alex can take a step back

522
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Speaker 2: from home out with Bowie a bit more towards the

523
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Speaker 2: end of the year.

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Speaker 1: It was just like he had to be there, yeah everything,

525
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Speaker 1: make sure everything was running properly.

526
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Speaker 2: Like we need a manager, we need someone overseeing everything.

527
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Speaker 2: And that's really what she's going to step in and do,

528
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Speaker 2: which is just going to give us so.

529
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Speaker 1: Much more amazing.

530
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Speaker 2: He can help me with some of our products that

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Speaker 2: we're developing and wholesaling and all things like that.

532
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Speaker 1: We've also got.

533
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Speaker 2: Someone on doing our Facebook marketing and doing our email

534
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Speaker 2: marketing as well, amazing someone on customer service because Alex

535
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Speaker 2: previously was running customer service wow to a point where

536
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Speaker 2: he's managing the warehouse, He's doing all the customer service.

537
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to do the DM customer service. Then we

538
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Speaker 2: have to try to communicate about the person who's DMed

539
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Speaker 2: and emailed and trying to think it all together. So

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Speaker 2: he hired someone to do just purely customer service again

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Speaker 2: game changing. And then we've got someone to help us

542
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Speaker 2: with content. So I've just got a food stylist on

543
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Speaker 2: board as well, which is amazing because that means I

544
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Speaker 2: can bring out new recipe, so I can just create

545
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: the recipe at home at night time for dinner. We're

546
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Speaker 2: like cook it a few times write it down. Then

547
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Speaker 2: I can just send her the recipe, she can style it,

548
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Speaker 2: photograph it, send the images back to me, and then

549
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Speaker 2: I've got a new blog.

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Speaker 1: Yep, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you were saying before, it's not like you

552
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Speaker 3: have to worry about you know, the time of the

553
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Speaker 3: day and you know with having bow and Bowie and

554
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Speaker 3: feeding him and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So and of course I still I love doing that,

556
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Speaker 2: so I'm still gonna do that as well.

557
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Speaker 1: But it just means I can do more. Takes the

558
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Speaker 1: pressure off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's actually I'm glad you brought that

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Speaker 3: up because I think it's really important when you are

563
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Speaker 3: you know, when you do have a small business, you

564
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: do tend to want to do it all and it

565
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Speaker 3: can seem super scary, uh, you know, investing in someone

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Speaker 3: a job you can do yourself, but it sort of

567
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Speaker 3: don't value it.

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Speaker 1: But I can do that, Yeah, but I can just

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Agains to a point where you just can't do it, no,

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Speaker 2: And I think also.

572
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Speaker 1: You're just gonna be able to. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's also like the whole when someone else

574
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Speaker 3: is doing that job, you have more time to do

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Speaker 3: you know, important stuff that only.

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Speaker 1: You can do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, which is yeah, so important exactly. Oh that's

578
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Speaker 3: so exciting. I'm yeah, I'm so excited for you with

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Speaker 3: let's get back into the episode. Let's chat about So

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Speaker 3: what is it like working with Alex? So you guys,

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Speaker 3: are you know, are team? You were saying that he's

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Speaker 3: at the warehouse more. Have you had any challenges with

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Speaker 3: that sort of side of things?

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Speaker 2: We were we wor like together like together together for

616
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Speaker 2: years because we were living basically after UNI, we moved

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Speaker 2: overseas to travel heaps. We moved to Barli together, and

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Speaker 2: that's kind of like when he quit his job in retail, he.

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Speaker 1: Was retail managing and I was at UNI. Finished that

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Speaker 1: we both moved.

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Speaker 2: Over seas, so we're both basically he was essentially what

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Speaker 2: you call my Instagram husband.

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Speaker 1: He was like my pa.

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Speaker 3: He like basically taking photos, helping with emails.

625
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Speaker 2: Doing everything to help me. So we've been doing that

626
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Speaker 2: for years and we're traveling a lot, and then when

627
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Speaker 2: we moved back, it was more we were at home

628
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Speaker 2: doing it together.

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Speaker 1: So like if I wanted to film some resciu his YouTube,

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Speaker 1: he'd help me with the filming and uploading, schedule everything

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Speaker 1: for me. Like I literally go someone like, oh I need.

632
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Speaker 2: A call out because he's got the diary, because he

633
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: was like the diary, like he'd schedule everything in Otherwise,

634
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Speaker 2: like my brain was like I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 2: doing tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So he was like my pa, I guess.

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Speaker 2: And then when the business moved up here, he really

638
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Speaker 2: had to step into that and I kind of like

639
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Speaker 2: lost him to me as in like to help me

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Speaker 2: with my things, and I was like help, I like you, and.

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Speaker 1: You come back to me, come home, Like I called

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Speaker 1: him back, can you come home?

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Speaker 2: Like, because I was just so used to having there

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Speaker 2: with me all the time to work, bounce, ideas go

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Speaker 2: over like Okay, today, this is what's on for today.

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Speaker 2: We need to film this, so we need to do

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Speaker 2: take these photos, style these blah blah blah. So when

648
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Speaker 2: I didn't have him there, I was a bit like

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Speaker 2: and then like, obviously a baby came along, so I

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Speaker 2: was just fool concentrated on obviously like being a mom,

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Speaker 2: and then he was concentrating on being at work. But

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Speaker 2: really I felt that feeling of when like you know,

653
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Speaker 2: someone becomes a mom and then their partner goes back

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Speaker 2: to work. And I was sort of like we had

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Speaker 2: a flexibility for him to come home at lunch. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, one day he just got in the morning,

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Speaker 2: let the girls in, and then he'd come home. But

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Speaker 2: he did have to be there quite a lot, and

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Speaker 2: I sort of felt that like, oh, like, I want

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Speaker 2: you to be here with me, like I missed that.

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Speaker 2: And that's why we're very excited for his mom to

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Speaker 2: move up because I could have him back flexibility to

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Speaker 2: have him home with me. And then of course, because

664
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: I had my work that I couldn't really stop, I

665
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: needed someone to help me with my work.

666
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: So I felt like I.

667
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: Kind of just, you know, basically turned off all my

668
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: jobs for the time being, just to concentrate on being

669
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: a mom and concentrate on the wholesome store.

670
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: And so this year I'm like, yes, I'm going to

671
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: have him home.

672
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: That's such like an interesting transition for you guys, because

673
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: like he says, sort of, yeah, like you for years

674
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: you were traveling, you were always together. He was helping

675
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: with everything, and you're almost like you know this team

676
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: and then you're still a team.

677
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I definitely.

678
00:30:59,600 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: Know what you.

679
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: Me in direction was more into that he.

680
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: Was, yeah, full time customer service and like full time

681
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: managing the warehouse and the staff.

682
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: That I was like, ah, yeah, I needed to be

683
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: my pa. I'm going to manage my own life.

684
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 2: It made me really appreciate him because I honestly couldn't

685
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: be where I was without his help.

686
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Like we were definitely like a two person shows. Yeah,

687
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: in the face of the business.

688
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: But he was definitely like, yeah, I love but I

689
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: love that you mentioned that too, because like I think

690
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: that's quite huge in regards to you know, I guess

691
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: reflecting it with my life and like an influencer is

692
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: like you know, Tim, probably not to extent of oles

693
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: because Tim always worked full time, but like Tim would

694
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: always take all my content on the weekend and help

695
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: with different things. Because it's not necessarily like this easy thing.

696
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: You like, you definitely need help and someone that makes

697
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: it easy to facilitate it.

698
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense.

699
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I love that you chat about that because

700
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: I think it would have been yeah, like so important.

701
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Like you said, you appreciate him so much.

702
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that. I love that.

703
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: And so yes, you guys have plans so he'll be

704
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: able to you know, come home more and then you

705
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: guys can you know, focus on Bowie. So let's chat

706
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: about little beautiful Bowie. I was a bit sad that

707
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Ellie didn't bring him.

708
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: But honestly, he would have been chatting this whole time.

709
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: We'd be climbing around pulling everything down. I'll come and

710
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: I'll have to meet him.

711
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: You have to, Yes, Well, so let's chat about mum life. So,

712
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: like you said, you got a six month old new baby.

713
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: First baby before we.

714
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: Get into mom life, actually was Bowie planned.

715
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: We were at the point where we were ready to

716
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: have babies, but we weren't trying, Okay, not planned as such.

717
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: We were like I fell in late of twenty nineteen, yeah,

718
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: and we were planning to start trying in twenty twenty. Yeah,

719
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: like a few months ahead of schedule. I guess, yeah, yeah,

720
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: but it.

721
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Was a nice surprise.

722
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: And then so you guys were like, we just feel like,

723
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: you know, we're at that next level.

724
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: Just like yeah, it just I think after marriage, by

725
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: a home, moving into that, it was kind of like

726
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: next step, that's it.

727
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I.

728
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: Could really just like, you know, I'd start to see

729
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: families at the beach at cafes and be like or

730
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: like looking at other families on Instagram, be.

731
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm excited for that.

732
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: Because he was always the maternal one and like Alex was, Yeah,

733
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: he was always very excited to be a dad, like

734
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: like I remember when we first got together, he was like.

735
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: My dream is to be a dad one day and

736
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: I was, oh, like a so sweet.

737
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: And he was, but he was always like no pressure,

738
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: like I'll wait to you already, yeah, but I don't

739
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: want to be much older than thirty before I'm thirty,

740
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: so he turned thirty and luckily I was already pregnant.

741
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I made it.

742
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: Yes, that is so funny and it's so interesting. We

743
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: were chatting off air again and Ellie was saying how

744
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: she wasn't fair very maternal, and then now.

745
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm worried for you. He's like, I'm scared

746
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna want like five babies now because literally, like

747
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: as soon as he's passing you on stage, I was like,

748
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: oh I can't wait, damn eno a baby.

749
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: Really well, tell us how the first six months has

750
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 3: been with Bowie.

751
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: So busy, Like that's like the best word, just gob

752
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: it busy, but like the best, like you can't. They

753
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: just make you so happy, and like the days just

754
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 2: fly by because she's just staring at them all day,

755
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: every little thing, like you know, and I now know

756
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: way Mom's like just gets like you literally like their

757
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: little cheerleader. Like everything they do, You're like, oh my god.

758
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: It's so excited.

759
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: And it's also just so nice because it brings on

760
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: your family and friends really close, because they obviously always

761
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: want to come around and see him, and they all

762
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: love him and he's special to them, and it's just

763
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: like that like just warms your soul that like he

764
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: makes everyone around you so happy as well, and like

765
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: you've created this little human and it's just it's honest, like, oh,

766
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: I get like the shivers. I'm also a very emotional person.

767
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Now. I wasn't like i'd cry in like sad movies and.

768
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, twenty twenty happened, and I was like I

769
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: must just be pregnant because I started like crying more

770
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: like just getting emotional that my sister.

771
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: Not being there.

772
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm just hold on. And then

773
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 2: I had him and I was like I can't stop crying,

774
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: like happy tears, like I just go do song. I

775
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: see this on your stories you like I listened just crying.

776
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: I look at a video of him and I'm like, oh,

777
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: happy tears, And I was like, what is hap He's like,

778
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 2: now I know why my mom cries so much.

779
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: She's like becoming a mom that is so finacial.

780
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: Wow, And so tell us about like what does the

781
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: typical like during the week and and the life look

782
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: like now with having a baby.

783
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Now, with having a baby, like we wake up, we

784
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: don't send an alarm anymore. That's one thing.

785
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that Alex was a five am kind

786
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: of man, and we're basically still a five am kind

787
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: of people because.

788
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: Of the baby. But we don't ever said an alarm.

789
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: Yep, he's our alarm, and he will wake us up

790
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: when he's ready, and it's usually early yeah, so we're

791
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: usually up between five and six thirty anytime between. Then

792
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 2: we cuddle in bed for the first like hour because

793
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: I feed him and just he's always fun in the mornings.

794
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: And then we always go out for coffee, so we

795
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: go for a walk with the dog, go to a

796
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: local coffee shop and have a coffee and walk back.

797
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 2: She falls asleep for his first nap on the walk backs,

798
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: and then we like try to transfer him into his

799
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: cot and he sleeps for like forty five minutes. So

800
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: that times when we like shower, get ready, have breakfast, yep,

801
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: and then it's usually Alex. Maybe he's heading off to

802
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: the warehouse at that point, so then I wait for

803
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: him to wake up. And then when he's awake, his

804
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: hand's on like that. Now he's at this sage where

805
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: he's trying to crawl, he's rolling. You can't just like

806
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: plung him on a little cushion and just like pot

807
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: around the house because he's on the go. We can

808
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: see him in his little plate corn and we'll play

809
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: with his toys. But I like to just be there

810
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: with him because they can get into all kinds of situations.

811
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: So I'm usually sitting there with him and he's awake

812
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 2: for like two hours. That's like the normal wake window

813
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: yep at this age, around two two and a half hours,

814
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: and then I've got to put him back down for

815
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: his nap. So we're either playing at home, or if

816
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: I've got somewhere to be, we might be like going

817
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: to do something. I'm sometimes at the warehouse with him.

818
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: It really depends on the day, like I'm here, there,

819
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: and everywhere. Then lunchtime he goes down for his one

820
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: and a half two hour nap, which is my worktime.

821
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: That's literally my.

822
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: Two hour like smash it out, smash as much as

823
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: I can, Like I'm usually jump on the computer, doing

824
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: some ordering, going through samples, emailing people if I have

825
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: content to shoot. I'm shooting content, doing a new recipe,

826
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: filming stories.

827
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Like it's like my two hour window. Yeah, and it

828
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: goes so quickly. Oh, that is not a lot of time.

829
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: Not he goes so quickly.

830
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: So and Alex usually comes home at lunchtime too, so

831
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: he'll usually be there to cook or prepose lunch, or

832
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: we'll do something together. We might even go out for

833
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: lunch or whatever. But it's literally like, actually, no, that's

834
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: a light, we're not going out for lunch.

835
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: But he's asleep. We can't live now. The three PM

836
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: we're like, let's go out for lunch. Now, like everything's closed, okay,

837
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: let's just go get like rice, paper rolls. And then the.

838
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: Afternoon is usually Alex's home. So if I've got to

839
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: do something and I'm like I really need to finish

840
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: that bit of work, he was like, cool, I'll take

841
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: Bowie for an hour. He might take him for a walk,

842
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: but usually it's just like us playing with him, doing

843
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: some Now he's eating solids, we're like giving.

844
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: Him some food to play with, and then we might

845
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: go for it.

846
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: We always these days go for an afternoon walk as well,

847
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: because it's just nice to get them out of the house. Yeah,

848
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: get the dog out as well, so we usually going

849
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: for another walk. Then you get home and it's like

850
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: pretty much bath time and then it's feed time, book time, bedtime,

851
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: and then we have our time, so like the last

852
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 2: end of the day is just.

853
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: Like full on. Yeah, and then so what time is

854
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: he going down? He was going down at seven.

855
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: Previously he was going down at nine point thirty, so

856
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: it was sort of like we're keeping him up, someone's

857
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: trying to cook, then someone's eating, holding him because like

858
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 2: pretty much from like six o'clock onwards, he was like just.

859
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: Like hard work, stirring.

860
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just quite grumpy and needy, and some would

861
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: always actually walking like you couldn't sit down.

862
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 1: As soon as you sit down, he'd start crying.

863
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Pick him up on your show, on your heap and

864
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 2: walk around and he's like so like just can happy.

865
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was just like hard work.

866
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: And then we had a consult and they were like, no,

867
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: you should be putting him to bed at seven, and we're, oh,

868
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: he's tired. We're like, oh right, we're like torturing him,

869
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: keeping him away when he should be asleep.

870
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: So we pulled like everything schedule right back. Yeah, put

871
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: him to.

872
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: Bed at seven, and then it's like he's down and

873
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: we're like, let's cook dinner, last time, sit on the couch,

874
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: watch a movie, watch on Netflix, and then go to

875
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: bed and it's just been so nice. Good is that

876
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: it kind of miss him though, Like we find ourselves

877
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: sitting there looking at like, oh, he's near the best,

878
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: miss him. And then what time do you guys go

879
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: to sleep? And then we go to bed like ten.

880
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes we'll be earlier, but he usually wakes around ten

881
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: between ten eleven. So it's kind of like that, like

882
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: you get into bed, then you're like, nope, I'm up again. Yeah,

883
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: so I wake up basically twice a night, and then

884
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: sometimes he wakes up in between, but it's just Alex.

885
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Going in there just be like back to sleep.

886
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets back to sleep, and then I'm up

887
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: in the next two hours to feed him. But it's

888
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: literally like this cycle of like this just goes on.

889
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: The weeks become a blur, the day's becoming yea, all

890
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: goes so fast.

891
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: But he just is just so enjoyable.

892
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet, and like sitting here and you

893
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: can see Ellie's face just like light up as she's

894
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: standing about this, and it just you know, it sounds

895
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: so mundane, but I love it.

896
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so what has it been like?

897
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: You know, because like we've been chatting about you have

898
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: so much going on, and I obviously you know, you've

899
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: got Alex and you've got a team, But what has

900
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: the transition with mum life been like with your business?

901
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, basically in the latest stages of pregnancy, because I

902
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: also have an agent who does or deals with all

903
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: my brand collaborations and that side of things, I basically

904
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: just said to him, look, not taking on any more

905
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: work until at least, you know, the first after three

906
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: months of basically like being a mum. I don't want

907
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: to look into any new jobs. I had some of

908
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: my longer term partnerships which I was happy to continue

909
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: with because they're like easy, They're easy, they're brands I

910
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: value and it just fits into my life. And I

911
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: obviously only partner with those brands because it's easy a

912
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 2: product that I use every day and I can easily

913
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 2: just like keep that up. So I catch those and

914
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: then anything new coming in, I said, just tell them

915
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: reach back out next year and we'll see where we're at.

916
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: But even now I'm sort of like, I don't know,

917
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I really have the time. So I

918
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: basically just had to like turn down a whole heap

919
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: of work, which was hard for me because I'm so

920
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: used to like saying yes.

921
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Saying yes, like.

922
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: If it's something I don't want to do, or a

923
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: brand I don't like or I wouldn't use and I

924
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: don't personally want to endorse, I'll never say yes.

925
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm always like no, no, shut that one down. But if

926
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: it's something that I really want to do, it's.

927
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: Hard because I'm like, oh I want Oh, I love

928
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: that brand, Oh I love that product.

929
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh it's a great campaign.

930
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like and I get like, all, maybe I

931
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: can do it, and then Alex is sort of like

932
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: nudging me, like and I'm like no, nah, yeah, I'm sorry.

933
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: I'd love to, but I can't. Yeah. So I've just

934
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: had to like prioritize.

935
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: I've had to prioritize, and also with the growth of

936
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: the Wholesome Store, I've had to prioritize that over other brands.

937
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: And that's a big part of my business plans for

938
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: the future is prioritizing my business.

939
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: Over other businesses. Even though the great.

940
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: Products that I'm like, i'd love to promote them, it's

941
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: just like I've got to focus on my business and

942
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,959
Speaker 2: my future and prioritizing that over someone else's business at.

943
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: The end of the day.

944
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting. I've heard the term like almost

945
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, like social media like real estate in regards

946
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: of you know, every influencer or person on social media,

947
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: they only have so much real estate of you know,

948
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: feed posts and stories, and you do have to really

949
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: think and being like, you know, I only have a

950
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: certain amount of space. Do I want to be filling

951
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: it with other people's companies, which yeah, you might you know,

952
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: love and use, but it's like you've got to make

953
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: sure you're looking after yourself and your business. And I

954
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: think it's you know, we were saying off air to like,

955
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, certain partnerships and collabs. It's kind of like

956
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: they can come at you with a you know, a

957
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: big figure and it can look very you know, glamorous

958
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: and exciting, but it's like, long term, what do you

959
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: want to be putting your.

960
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Time and energy into exactly, And you only have so

961
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: much time and energy, and like you don't obviously want

962
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: your feed and your stories to be filled with sponsored content,

963
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: so I very much like to space it out as

964
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: much as possible and just really doing ones that It's like,

965
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: it's easy, it's seamless, it's something that I organically already use.

966
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: Otherwise it ends up just being like stressful and awkward

967
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: and uncomfortable. And like there's been the jobs Around'm like, oh,

968
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: that's cool product, and then I go to do it

969
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't actually feel comfortable doing this one.

970
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm just sorry. I'm going to go back and say

971
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: no because it just doesn't feel organic. Yeah, to talk.

972
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: About or to share. Yeah, well I think that. I

973
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: think that's really important. And like you said, it's about

974
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: prioritizing what's important to you, and especially with Bowie like

975
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: that that's.

976
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Important to me. Yeah, that's obviously so important.

977
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: So in the days go by so quickly and he

978
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: grows so quickly that I'm like, I don't want to

979
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: miss anything, and I don't want to look back and go, oh,

980
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't work so much. Yeah, when I

981
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: was pregnant, I said to myself, I was like, I know,

982
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: I want to be as present as possible. I want

983
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: to be like there with him. And I love that

984
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: Alex and I had the flexibility both be home. It's

985
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: not like two weeks of because like most dads only

986
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: get two weeks off and then they're back at work

987
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: and their home at night when the babies asleep, and

988
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't like we have the flexibility

989
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: to be there with him together, so we really wanted

990
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: to prioritize, yeah, spending as much time with him as

991
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: we can. And I'm so grateful that we do get

992
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: to do that. So that's why I like, when I'm

993
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: I bummed about turning down a collaboration or a big campaign,

994
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what though, like I'd rather be

995
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: stress free and just like enjoying my time.

996
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: Yes, it's all, Yeah, he's not what an once?

997
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's important.

998
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: And also I want to ask you so.

999
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Again, we were chatting about this a little bit of air,

1000
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: but what has it been like being a mum on Instagram?

1001
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: Just because I know, with babies and being a parent,

1002
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: like everyone has an opinion every I feel like, I

1003
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm probably going to get attacked for this,

1004
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: but I feel like, especially mum's online, it can be

1005
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: very judgmental and yeah, extreme kind of come at you.

1006
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Like, what has that it'd been like?

1007
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Like someone said to me once, don't let the mama

1008
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: mafia get to you.

1009
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what it is.

1010
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: So every time I get like, what the mama mafia,

1011
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: like the mom's oh the mafia.

1012
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Could they come for you?

1013
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, that's exactly what it is.

1014
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: It's the it's the mama mafia. And like the best

1015
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: piece of advice I got was just to block out

1016
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: everyone else's opinions and just use your mother mum instincts

1017
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: and you know what's best for your baby.

1018
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: Just block everyone else out.

1019
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: So, like you know, I'll flick through and if I

1020
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 2: see someone who has an opinion, if it's something that's

1021
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: like I didn't know and I can take value from that,

1022
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: I'll take it on board and oh, actually I didn't

1023
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: know that. It's yeah, okay, they obviously you know, they're

1024
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: a mom of three, they know, Oh let's try these, Alex,

1025
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 2: Like this person said this and it worked for their baby.

1026
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Let's try this.

1027
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: But when it's like hateful, I just block it out

1028
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: and I just yeah, so I back out, don't read it,

1029
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: don't acknowledge it, don't give it any time and energy,

1030
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: and just keep doing how I'm doing things. And you

1031
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: focus on the positive because like you can get like

1032
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: a hundred beautiful positive messages and then you get this

1033
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: one mean negative one that can really like ruin your day.

1034
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: But it's just like you gotta then one opinion. Not

1035
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna agree with you.

1036
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you never know, like that person is probably

1037
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: having a shitty day or you know they're annoyed or yeah,

1038
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: like you just I think when people say anything nasty,

1039
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: it says a lot more about them than you exactly.

1040
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, some of the mum opinions though it's like

1041
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: something I'm doing, they might not be aware of it,

1042
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: or they might not have They might not know about

1043
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: this because it might be a new way of doing something,

1044
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: like for example, we're doing baby lead weaning, so that's

1045
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: instead of giving them purreigs, which you can do a combination,

1046
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: So we're doing combination. Sometimes we'll give him some purid

1047
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: food and sometimes we just give him soft finger foods

1048
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: that he just plays with, picks it up.

1049
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Plays with it, puts it in his mouth, throws it

1050
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: on the floor.

1051
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: It's kind of just like an experience of food, learning

1052
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: to feel it, put in his mouth, see how that feels.

1053
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: He might put it in, he might gag, he might

1054
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: you and just.

1055
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: Like sitting there with him and just letting him explore

1056
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: and take control of his food instead of like shoving

1057
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: a spoon in his face.

1058
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: Yep.

1059
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: And so we've chosen to that because it was.

1060
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: Something that I learned UNI and I always found it

1061
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: really interesting. And there's a page I follow and I.

1062
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Was really done your research and I was like that

1063
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: that looks good. I'm gonna try that.

1064
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: And then I've spoken to people who've done it, and

1065
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: they've said their kids just so good with food, not fussy,

1066
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: and just like such good eaters.

1067
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: So I'm like, we're gonna try that.

1068
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: And then there's the people who you know, might have

1069
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: never heard of this and don't know they're doing that,

1070
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: and they're just like, oh my god, like your baby's

1071
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: gonna choke.

1072
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this?

1073
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: Like you're like this is a choking hazard. And then

1074
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Okay, they obviously don't know about baby.

1075
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: They're waning, Yeah, you don't know that I'm sitting here

1076
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: right with him. Yeah, I'll just just yeah, ignorre well.

1077
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because I like, right at the start

1078
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: with Bowie, I think I remember seeing some of your

1079
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: stories and you kind of said something because I'm guessing

1080
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: you've got a whole heap of DMS about something, and

1081
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: you're like, just to let you guys know, we.

1082
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: Did this, this and this.

1083
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I thought to myself. I was like,

1084
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: oh my god, everyone would just have an opinion if

1085
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: you put something up, you haven't put the whole choice.

1086
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: So they're looking at this like one slide, one slide

1087
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: of something, and then they're gonna come at you with

1088
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 2: all these opinions of like what you should be doing

1089
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: or what you've done wrong, and you're like, no, no, no,

1090
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: no no, but you don't know. Yes, so we've spoken

1091
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: to this person and that person and we've got advice

1092
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 2: or yeah, it's just youve got to sometimes I guess

1093
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: some things you got to maybe not share because of that.

1094
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: Like I've seen some moms that are very cautious of

1095
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: what they share for that reason.

1096
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think that that's probably like good advice.

1097
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: So almost you don't even put yourself in the position

1098
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: for people to come at you, yeah, or it's just

1099
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: the whole don't even check your DMS.

1100
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1101
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: So I'd love to ask you if you could go

1102
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,479
Speaker 3: back to when you're pregnant, what is one a piece

1103
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: of advice that you would tell yourself when Bowie arrives,

1104
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: for when he arrives, yeah, or something like you know

1105
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: about being a mom that you may maybe didn't like

1106
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: realize or what.

1107
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I knew a lot of stuff.

1108
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: It just shocked me how like truthful was like, because

1109
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: everyone said, like the newborn stage goes so quickly and

1110
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: like like just lavish it up because they're only like

1111
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: fresh newborns for such a small amount of time. But

1112
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: it went so quickly, and like I did, I did

1113
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: take so many videos, so many photos for that reason.

1114
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I did, because everyone said it's gonna

1115
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: go really quick.

1116
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: What is the newborn stage? Like what is the first

1117
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: coup of weeks? Twelve weeks?

1118
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: But I feel like before twelve weeks, he was like

1119
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: like he was born and he was pretty like alert already,

1120
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: and like like I just feel like he started being

1121
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: chatty and like sitting up and hitting some of those

1122
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: miles stones a lot earlier.

1123
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah than what saga is like typical. There's no typical.

1124
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: Every baby's different, but like I just feel like that

1125
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: he like jumped out of that sleep like he wasn't

1126
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: really a sleepy new born for long at all, if

1127
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 2: given ever, like even from like the first few days,

1128
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: he was like pretty alert, like looking around, curious of

1129
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: the world.

1130
00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just so interesting because like that

1131
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: he's the only baby we know.

1132
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: But then when we have people around us with a

1133
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: baby the same age, you can sort of like see

1134
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: the differences in them all.

1135
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like some of.

1136
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: Some babies his age are still like, you know, not

1137
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: sitting up yet, just starting to roll, whereas he's like

1138
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 2: been sitting up for months crawling.

1139
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: So it's like they.

1140
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: All just develop at such different paces. Yeah, yeah, and

1141
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: eventually they're will probably just even out at some stage.

1142
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: But it's just like when you're a first time mum,

1143
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: you don't have anything to compare it to.

1144
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: That's you're normal.

1145
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you see other babies who are still

1146
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: like laying on their back, you're like, oh, crap, that

1147
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: would be nice. And everyone says like, don't wish they

1148
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: could crawl, and don't wish they could walk sooner than

1149
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: they do, because once they do, you forever chasing them around.

1150
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: That is, yeah, but we do, but we do find

1151
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: ourselves sitting in the room like come.

1152
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: On, crawl, Crauel.

1153
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, put this on for And I'm like, why

1154
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: are we teaching him. We shouldn't be teaching him. It's

1155
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen and they were gonna wish we didn't teach him. Yeah,

1156
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: but you can't help it.

1157
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: She's like, this is exciting. Oh I love it like

1158
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: Bigg's cheerlead.

1159
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. So definitely, like just you know, lavish it up,

1160
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 3: makes you're super present.

1161
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: And for a tip for pregnancy, which I did, and

1162
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: so I'd like to say to other pregnant women to

1163
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: do is during pregnancy, do something for yourself every chance

1164
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: you can. Like I made it packed myself that every

1165
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: week I was going to go do something for myself

1166
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: in those like the last half of pregnancy.

1167
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: So every week I went and.

1168
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Did like either got a massage or I went and

1169
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: did acupuncture and got my nails done, hair down, Like

1170
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: I just pick one little thing and go just like

1171
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: have me time and just like relax.

1172
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: And it was the best thing I did because like

1173
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: now seeing something like I love.

1174
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: To go for a massage, like I still can, but

1175
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: I really have to plan those things and it's not

1176
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: quite as relaxing because I'm like getting a message like out.

1177
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: It's like he's awake, he's hungry. What do I do?

1178
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, you're just thinking about it and I'm constantly

1179
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: thinking like, oh it's been like oh, it's already been

1180
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: two hours, Like why are they taking so long to do.

1181
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: My nails or something like that. You know, it's relaxed different, Yeah,

1182
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: it's different. So get all that done.

1183
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

1184
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: Really, like do a good things with stuff and with

1185
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: your partner as well, go away on like a bay

1186
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 2: moon as such, like go away together and do something

1187
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: really special together because once they come along, you're gonna

1188
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 2: be doing everything with them, which you want to do, yeap,

1189
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: but there isn't really a not to do it without.

1190
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: Them in the first like six or twelve months.

1191
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's an interesting question, like has your relationship

1192
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 3: with Alex changed it all since having Bowie?

1193
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: I feel like we've probably got a deeper appreciation for

1194
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: each other. I mean there's definitely like high stress moments

1195
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: where it's like why did you do that? Because you're

1196
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: just both under pressure and they're upset or something and

1197
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: you both feel the pressure and of course.

1198
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna blame each other.

1199
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah snappy, Yeah, So you get a bit more nacky

1200
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: and snappy to each other, like, ah, what did you

1201
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: like that.

1202
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: Work your mom?

1203
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1204
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 2: I haddad Yeah, you just like snap at each other

1205
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: more often. But you have this deep appreciation like for

1206
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: him to watch what I went through for lab, but

1207
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: he's got this deep appreciation for you know, what a

1208
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: woman does, like whoa, that's insane.

1209
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: But then he also has this appreciation to be like, oh,

1210
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: I love seeing you as a mom, Like it's so nice.

1211
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: And I have this appreciation when I see him like

1212
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: hands on playing with bowie, giggling, I'm like, this is

1213
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: you living out your dream? Like yeah, and like when

1214
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: he's there helping doing like for the first few weeks

1215
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: he did all the nappy changes because I was recovering

1216
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: and I was feeding, so he was like, you know,

1217
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: I'll do all the nappy changes and be really hands

1218
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: on with that sort of stuff where I can. And

1219
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: I just had such an appreciation for him being such

1220
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: a hands on dad and just getting involved and just

1221
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: loving every moment.

1222
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: So so sweet.

1223
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: And also one last piece of advice, what would you

1224
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: kind of tell anyone who is a new mum but

1225
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: also has you know, a small business and they don't

1226
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: necessarily have the luxury of you know, taking maternity leave

1227
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: or I shouldn't say luxury, but at taking maternally. They

1228
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 3: still have to be somewhat in their business. Like, what

1229
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: sort of sort of advice would you have for them?

1230
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, your business can wait, essentially, but even

1231
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: is your sole income, it probably can't if you can't

1232
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: get maternally. I do know though, business owners can get

1233
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: paid maternally from the government. Yeah, we didn't end up

1234
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: doing it, but I did get advice that we possibly

1235
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: could have. But I knew that I was going to

1236
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: be continuing working, so I was like, I don't think

1237
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: I would technically be eligible. Yep, but you can get

1238
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 2: maternially from the government if that takes some pressure off.

1239
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: Look into it, because I think we spoke to our

1240
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: accountant about it and she did some research because she

1241
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: had never heard of it. But there was some great

1242
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: podcasts I listened to about it as well. I think

1243
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: it was the Mum and Maya podcast. But also like,

1244
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: if you're obviously wanting if it's your business, you probably

1245
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: want to keep at it.

1246
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: If you can outsource anything any help, try to get help. Yeah,

1247
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: that's a huge thing, just like.

1248
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: Let like what's the saying, Like many hands make light work,

1249
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: so like get people to help, even if it's just

1250
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: like can your family come around and cook dinner for

1251
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: you a few nights a week? Yeah, or like can

1252
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: your husband do some of these household things when they've

1253
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: got some time off so that you have some time

1254
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: to work on your business, Like can you set scheduled

1255
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: times for you.

1256
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: To do stuff? And also when you're a new mom.

1257
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: Like when you're feeding, if you're running like an online

1258
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: little business, you might have time to do like the

1259
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: Instagram and things like that while you're sitting there nursing

1260
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: throughout the day or through the multitasking.

1261
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: Multitasking Yeah, I definitely do it.

1262
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: But but you've got to yet, You've got to shut

1263
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: off a little bit.

1264
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I think yeah, I think that's kind of great advice.

1265
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: I being like outsource shut off when you can. Yeah,

1266
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: and don't sort of you know, like really kind of

1267
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: like you said, like labbage up that sort of.

1268
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Time because it's so yeah, So don't it's so quick.

1269
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: You Yeah, if you put too much of your time

1270
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 2: into your business at the same time having a baby,

1271
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: like you'll burn out or you'll miss those moments and

1272
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: wish you weren't, wish you were more present and not

1273
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: thinking about all those business things.

1274
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: So try to outsource. That's probably the best advice. Honestly,

1275
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: I could not agree more so.

1276
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one it's kind of a reset year from

1277
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, which was just a bit of a shit show,

1278
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 3: let's be honest.

1279
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: And this season of the podcast is all about taking

1280
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: bold action.

1281
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 3: So I would love to know from you what sort

1282
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: of bold action are you taking this year.

1283
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: We've spoken about this a few times in this podcast already,

1284
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: but I'm outsourcing more, even more. Yeah, Like I'm I

1285
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: want to work on another big project, another.

1286
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: Cookbook, I should say, little.

1287
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Little hints, little sneak peek, sleep pick.

1288
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: Haven't started on it, but that's what I want to do.

1289
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: And I know that previously I was able to make

1290
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: like us obviously still create all the recipes, that's what

1291
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: I do. That's that's you know, that's why they're my books.

1292
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: But the styling of photography, I did all that myself.

1293
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: And editing. I'm going to outsource, not all.

1294
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: Of that, but I'm going to continue to get help. Yeah,

1295
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to get help. I'm going to hire people,

1296
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: and I'm going to do it as a team.

1297
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to get people in. We're going to have

1298
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, cook style days.

1299
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll develop all the recipes at night times whenever, because

1300
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't need to look pretty. But when it comes

1301
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: to yeah, I'm going to outsource, that's my big I

1302
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: love it because I need I need to I need

1303
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: to have, need to raise my baby, I should say, yeah,

1304
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't have the flexibility or the luxury to just

1305
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: have like batch cook days.

1306
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: No, yeah, one hundred percent. I couldn't agree more. And

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Speaker 3: I that's very much like I agree with you. And

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Speaker 3: also think with the whole outsourcing, it's more of like

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Speaker 3: a control thing and once you get started, it's easier yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, oh wow, this person actually probably does

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Speaker 3: it better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just you just go like, oh that

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Speaker 1: was easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like oh, like as soon as we hired help

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Speaker 2: with the warehouse and then you know they're great, young savvy,

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Speaker 2: and then like oh yep, they like one of them

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Speaker 2: took over the deepop account and then I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, oh that wasn't so hard. Yeah that's great.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to answer those.

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Speaker 2: Messages and go back and forth and pack.

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Speaker 1: And ship them off Like, yeah, oh too easy? I know.

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Speaker 1: Well that's like I don't have to do that myself. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, letting go of control.

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Speaker 3: That's my whole like resolution for twenty twenty one is

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Speaker 3: like ease and flow, letting things be easy, because I

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Speaker 3: think we can almost sometimes make things.

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Speaker 1: Harder for ourselves. Exactly. We don't need to. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not essential. I love you everything.

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Speaker 3: We're on the same page, all right. So to finish

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Speaker 3: this episode, can I just say I loved this chat

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Speaker 3: with you. It's been so insightful and lovely. But where

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Speaker 3: can the listeners find you and find all your projects?

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Speaker 2: I would say on my Instagram, where I'm most active.

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Speaker 2: So it's Elsa's underscore, wholesome life.

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Speaker 3: See that always churched me up. I always thought your

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Speaker 3: name was Elsa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Should we touch on that? Yeah? Tell everyone story.

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Speaker 2: Everyone gets confused about that. So obviously, I think I

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. I didn't plan for this big business, you know,

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Speaker 2: I do my future in business. I planned to be

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Speaker 2: a dietitian or nutritionist, maybe run a private practice, being

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Speaker 2: a hospital, whatever. So Elsa was a nickname for one

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Speaker 2: of my friends in school and when I created the account,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going to use my nickname because

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was just like a little yeah

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Speaker 2: styling side hobby and just some giveaways. You know, maybe

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Speaker 2: someone will send me some free stuff that would be cool.

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Speaker 2: That's all I thought of it. And then as it

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Speaker 2: grew people started being like I think when I published

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Speaker 2: my book and it was like, you know, the name

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Speaker 2: on the bottom was like Ellie Bull and people are.

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: Like, wait, what, I'm confused, what is your name?

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh god, so yeah, my name's

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Speaker 2: Ellie Elsa is a nickname. Yeah, so now my business identity.

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Speaker 1: In hindsight, if.

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Speaker 2: I could go back, I probably would have made it

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Speaker 2: Ellie's Wholesome Life. Yeah, just to like alleviate some of

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Speaker 2: that confusion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine though, It's kind of like it.

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Speaker 2: It's like my online identity. I guess, yeah, so said

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Speaker 2: my stage name. Yeah, although who I am online is

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Speaker 2: who I am.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, it's kind of it's even good having a

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Speaker 1: different identity.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of the same with the name that I

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Speaker 3: use on Instagram is like my maiden name, but I

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Speaker 3: actually use my married name.

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Speaker 1: In real life, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of nice having you know, a name

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Speaker 3: that you can sort of step away with everyone knows

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Speaker 3: you know both names.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm much the same with my maiden name too.

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Speaker 2: Again, my Cookbooks was like the big throw because they

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Speaker 2: published me as Ellie Bullen, which is my maiden name,

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Speaker 2: because I wasn't married at the time, and then before

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Speaker 2: the second book, I was married as Watson, and they

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Speaker 2: sort of went, what do you want to do?

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Speaker 1: And I went, and they went, Honestly, it might confuse.

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Speaker 2: People, yeah, because if they're looking in the shop and

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Speaker 2: there's a book that says Ellie bull and then there's

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Speaker 2: one that says Elie Watson, they.

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Speaker 1: Might not make the correlation.

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Speaker 2: And if they liked your first book, they might not

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Speaker 2: realize that this is your new book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it might just put some confusion into the air.

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Speaker 2: So for that reason, we've we've kept bulling my maiden

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Speaker 2: names the business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah too.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's fine. Like I enjoy that I

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Speaker 3: have like multiple names.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what you'll never know.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny even like going off that too, because

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Speaker 3: like my actual real name is Georgia, but everyone calls

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Speaker 3: me Georgie. They go so like nickname yeah, I'm very

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Speaker 3: different name. I feel you what's.

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Speaker 1: Your what's your new Your maiden name is Stevenson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so maiden name is Stevenson. My like, yeah, my

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Speaker 3: real name is Georgia yep. And then my married name

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Speaker 3: is Crouch.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, yeah, so Georgia Crouch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so normal for women who have have

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Speaker 2: started a business unmarried and then yeah, to marry.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to change the name and the identity.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, well even like I would be a person

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Speaker 3: who would have kept my maiden name, but it was

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Speaker 3: more kind of like because I have three older brothers.

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Speaker 1: So that like the Stevens, the name it's going to continue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was like, not too worried about it,

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Speaker 3: but I would definitely be that person who keeps their

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Speaker 3: maiden name just because I you.

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Speaker 1: Know, see, I liked What's in better than Bullan, So

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh.

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Speaker 3: It is I love what sy It's like a bit yeah, quirky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that it has a better ring to

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Speaker 2: it because every time I say bull and people are like, so,

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01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: what can you spell that for me?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, it's not. It's a simple name.

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Speaker 1: But I just like hated having to always spell it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, Sorry guys, we went off on a random

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Speaker 3: but yeah, so else a wholesome wait, Else's wholesome life?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and on Instagram. I'm also on YouTube, but.

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Speaker 3: You can probably find everything from You can find everything

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Speaker 3: through that and I'll put all the links in the

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Speaker 3: show notes so you can find Elsa, Ellie whatever.

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Speaker 1: You're excellent.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for coming on the Rise

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Speaker 3: and Conquer podcast.

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Speaker 1: It has been an absolute pleasure. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: It's been great to chat.

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