1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, the blow 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: up over the viral Henny Cardigan, Sky Wheatley's partner's business 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: goes into external administration, and m Davies touching baby news. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: But first, Sophie, you're still reeling from Molly May and 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Tommy Fury's breakup news. As the official Outspoken correspondent, can 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: you tell us the latest yet? Well, we haven't heard 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: any confirmation yet from Molly May. She has remained silent 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: on this topic, but that hasn't stopped the rumor meal 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: from going into absolute overdrive. We are swimming in a 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: lot of rumors on the internet at the moment. The 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: one gaining the most traction is the rumor that Tommy 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: cheated on Molly during an alcohol field lad's holiday to 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: North Macedonia with a Danish girl. Well, this was actually 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: printed in the Sun. Yeah. According to the Sun, Tommy 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: was seen kissing a blonde woman in a nightclub during 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: what they described as a two am vodka binge. Now, 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: this was reportedly just days before Molly May announced their 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: split on Instagram. A source who claims to have witnessed 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: the kiss told the son he was down in gray 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Goose vodka and didn't seem to care who saw him 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: with the girl he kissed her. This will be heartbreaking 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: for Molly May. There was also a quote that interested 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: me from Molly's so called friend, and the friend, of 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: course isn't named in this article, but I would not 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: be surprised if her manager, Fran was briefing the press. 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: So the friend was quoted in the newspapers saying Molly 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: was told he had cheated on her with a Danish 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: woman he'd met while he was away in Macedonia. She 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: didn't want to believe it was true. When she confronted 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: him and asked him if he had cheated on her, 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Tommy didn't deny it. It told Molly May all she 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: needed to know, and she ended it. He's moved out 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: of the house and she's absolutely reeling from it all. 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Tommy's management team have also been working hard in the 37 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: background trying to shoot down some of them rumors. They 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: released a statement saying that he has been left horrified 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: by the false rumors and he's also consulting currently with 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: his lawyers because of these rumors that are being circulated 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: by the meeting. It's pretty bold of his team to 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: come out and label these allegations as false, because surely 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: there is a woman waiting in the wings, just getting 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: ready to tell her story. Yeah, but when they're talking 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: about false rumors, I think what they're referring to other 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: rumors that we touched on on Friday's episode, and that 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: was in relation to a TikTok rumor that Tommy had 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: impregnated a boxing coach's daughter. Oh yeah, Now that gained 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot of momentum online and people were harassing the woman, 50 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: leaving comments saying, tell us that this isn't Tommy Fury's child, 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: and her dad had to come out and say, I 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: couldn't believe what we woke up to. She has a 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: lovely partner. Here's a photo of them together. So I 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: think that his team is saying, look, this rumor is 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: not true. It's been proven to be und true. So 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: you've got to be really careful about what you're going 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: to post in the future. Yeah, you need to get 58 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: your source is not from TikTok. Makes right, I met 59 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: that could be a good start. 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: Now. 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: The paparazzi have been camped outside Molly's house for days now, 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: which would just be so incredibly tough when you're going 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: through a breakup. That being said, I was very interested 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: to see who were her support people in that moment 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: because we do know that her sister is currently away 66 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: on her honeymoon. And it was so cute because her 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: dad rocked up with a bunch of flowers and he 68 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: has also unfollowed Tommy on Instagram, which sends a strong 69 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: message from her manager was also there as well as 70 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: a handful of her other friends and everyone has been 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: waiting to catch the first glimpse of Molly since the breakup, 72 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: where everyone wants to see if she's doing okay. Yeah, 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: and it didn't disappoint because the paparazzi snapped Molly and 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: her friends in the car at the McDonald's drive through. 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Can she be any more relatable? That's the first thing 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: that anyone does when they're going through a breakup. They've 77 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: got to get in the car with their friends, put 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: on breakup music and get McDonald's like it is the 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: best therapy. I would have loved to know what was 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: on their playlist and what they were discussing. You want 81 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: to know what they ordered? What about the person who's 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: serving Molly bay though? How awkward? Like tell me everything now. 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: The paparazzi also snapped photos of Tommy returning home Briefly. 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: He was only there for forty minutes on Friday, but 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: it's believed it's the first time Tommy and Molly have 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: seen each other since they're split, and everyone is talking 87 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: about what is going to happen to their beautiful six 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: bedroom mansion. So interestingly, there are reports that, according to 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the land registry papers, this house, which was bought for 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: three point eight pounds in twenty twenty two, was solely 91 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: purchased in Molly's name, So this means that Tommy is 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: unlikely to have any financial stake in this property. I 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: am so happy to hear that because you can just 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: tell what a safe haven that home is for Molly. 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: It has her written all over, it is her interior design, 96 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: so I'm glad it looks like she'll get to keep 97 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: that in the split. I'm wondering how that works, because 98 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: if you're a de facto's in Australia, regardless of if 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: your name is on the paperwork, you still have some 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: claim to the property. I don't know if the rules 101 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: are different in the UK, but I'm hoping that Molly's 102 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: able to keep the house. Now for those who are 103 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: hoping that maybe Tommy and Molly might be able to 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: work through their issues, is looking more and more unlikely 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: because a large skip has been seen outside the mansion 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: with a suitcase poking out the top of it, and 107 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: many think that this skip is slowly going to be 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: filled with Tommy's belongings and that suitcase is his. If 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: a picture doesn't paint a thousand words, I think that 110 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: she wants the paparazzi to see him having to fish 111 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: that suitcase out of the skip, because that would be 112 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: absolutely iconic. It just sends the strong message that he 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: has done something and we're all waiting to unpack what 114 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: that is. He needs to be put in the bin, 115 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: doesn't he Yes, I. 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: Don't give a shit what fucking cardigan you wear? 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: Author Kate Forster says she's been inundated with prank calls 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: and online abuse since creating a TikTok video calling out 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: the viral Henny Cardigan. The fifty three year old questioned, 120 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: young people all want to look the same by wearing 121 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: the cult cardigan created by fashion influencer Nardier Bartel. So 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: this cardigan has been all over my for you page. 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: It is everywhere. Every time I go on TikTok, I'm 124 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: seeing a fashion influencer either reviewing this cardigan or showing 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: how to style it. Now, the cardigan is called Selene, 126 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: and what makes it stand out is the fact that 127 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: it's fluffy. So it's made from our packer blend and 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: it comes in a range of different colors. It currently 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: retails for two hundred and twenty nine dollars, which is 130 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: quite expensive for a cardigan. I mean it is pricey. 131 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't own the viral Henny cardigan, and I want 132 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: to put it out there. Please no one come after me. 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: But I know that this is one item of clothing 134 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: that my husband would pay me out for wearing. So 135 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: it's more of like girls get this kind of fashion. Yeah, definitely, 136 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: this is something that I don't think guys would get. 137 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: And for the purpose of this podcast, I ask my husband, 138 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: what is your take on this cardigan? And he said 139 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: that he thinks I would look like a little kiwi 140 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: fruit wearing it, which isn't actually that bad, Like, that's 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: kind of cute, a little kiwi fruit with fur on it. 142 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I actually think it's quite a cute way to describe it. 143 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: But I pushed him even further and he said that 144 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: it kind of looked like the designer got a glue 145 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: stick rubbed it all over the cardigan and then someone 146 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: rolled around in hair. Are you trying to get Brandon canceled? 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Because people are very passionate about this cardigan. Well, after 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: he gave me his honest review, I told him that 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: women are coming after anyone who speaks badly about this cardigan, 150 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: and he looked genuinely horrified, and he pleaded with me 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: not to mention his comments. So it looks like a 152 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: really cozy cargan. Yeah, it has been touted as this 153 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: perfect winter staple because it looks very warm, especially if 154 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: you're living in Melbourne where it's extra cold. Now. This 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: cardigan is currently so hard to get your hands on 156 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: because it is so hyped up on TikTok. 157 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: I have been trying to get my hands on the 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: items in this package for quite literally months, so I'm 159 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: very excited to open them. We've all seen it, the 160 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: viral handy cardigans I got it in two colors, so let's. 161 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Try them up. 162 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: I have noticed that TikTokers are always leaving their LTK 163 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: codes that their followers can go and shop their Henny 164 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: look and on the Henny website. This cardigan is currently 165 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: out of stock, but there's a little countdown to when 166 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: it will be back, so I think it's almost a 167 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: way to build hype, like, oh my god, I've got 168 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: to get my hands on this cardigan. Yeah, but despite 169 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: it being out of stock, the Henny marketing team is 170 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: continuing to drip feed gifted cardigans to micro influencers purely 171 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: so they'll post about it, creating more hype around this item. 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Well yeah. I recently saw one TikToker who has four 173 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: thousand followers, saying that Henny had just dropped her the 174 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: out of stock cardigan, which then motivated her to create 175 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: a try on video about it. Here's what she said, 176 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: I must be in Henny's good books today. 177 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: Unannounced, the postman arrived with the delivery and inside was 178 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 4: the sold out Selene CARDI it's basically impossible to get 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: your hands on. Somehow, I got said one. I am 180 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: so obsessed. 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: I think this is a really clever tactic because if 182 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: Henny were to gift this out of stock cardigan to 183 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: large influencers, I think that that would create a lot 184 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: of animosity and jealousy. But because they're gifting it to 185 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: micro influencers who feel like our friends, it's subtly reminding us, 186 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: don't forget about this cardigan. It's coming out soon. And 187 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: also at the same time, we're hearing a micro influencer 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: who was so appreciative to get it. Yeah, and this 189 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: brand is one of those cool girl brands. It's very chic, 190 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: it's very Melbourne. It was founded by influencer Nadia Bartel 191 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen with her sister, and it has quickly 192 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: become a cult favorite. 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 194 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: Now this is where author Kate Forster enters the chat. 195 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: So she is a best selling author who recently joined 196 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: TikTok and in the space of a few weeks, she's 197 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: gained over twenty four thousand followers, and that's by sharing 198 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: advice and fashion reviews. And I have to put it 199 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: out there. I am a big fan of her content. 200 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: She is refreshingly honest and absolutely hilarious. Her content is 201 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: very satirical and she just says it how it is. 202 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: She's been popping up a lot for me, and I 203 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: find her content it's like, it's nothing serious, it's just funny. Yeah. 204 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I first came across her content when she created a 205 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: couple of tiktoks about the Witchery rebrand. Here's a snippet 206 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: of what she said, Why why. 207 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: Do you give a fuck about a mid brand like 208 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: bloody Witchery? But Witchery is just not it. It was never it. 209 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: It was always low rent Mimco and I hate Mimco. 210 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: So stop worrying about it. Go and invest in better fashion, 211 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: better quality, better style, support young creators. I don't know, 212 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: just fucking get over Witchery. 213 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: As you can hear from this clip, she is hilarious, 214 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: but she's also very passionate about women supporting other brands, 215 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: and not just the mainstream brands. Since that video, she's 216 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: reviewed Zimmerman, Country Road, Sports Girl, Cookie, Suzanne's Spell, and 217 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: also White Fox. White Fox was one of my favorites. Yeah, 218 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: go and check it out, like, oh my god, so 219 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: spot on. But it wasn't until she shared her thoughts 220 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: on Henny that her account really took off. Here's what 221 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: she said. 222 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: So hear me out right I say all those girls 223 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: I saw an influencer yesterday to say that all the 224 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: women of Australia except for the fat ones, are wearing 225 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: the Henny Cardi. So I don't understand why girls who 226 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: say their influencers are then all wearing the same uniform. 227 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: It's this Henny Cardi that you know. I'm in my 228 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: late twenties early thirties version of a white Fox sweater. 229 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm just questioning because I do see it a lot, 230 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: and I'm just wondering, if you're going to be an 231 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: influencer and a fashionista, why are you not looking at 232 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: other brands for cardigans? For example? Like, it's a fucking cardigan. 233 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 2: How do you want to wear the same thing as 234 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: everyone else? Now? 235 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: She is bang on describing the Henny cardigan as the 236 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: late twenties to thirties version of the white Fox jumper, 237 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: because it is exactly what it is. She has hit 238 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: the nail on the head now. Kate then proceeded to 239 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: show her followers a range of cardigans that other small 240 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: brands sold and questioned why you'd want to look like 241 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: the same person walking down the street. She then finished 242 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: by saying this, Can. 243 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: I stop saying the same fashion influences, wearing the same friggin' things. 244 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: It's not a uniform. Start showing me what's good, not 245 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: what everyone else is wearing. 246 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: In a now deleted video, she also compared Henny wearers 247 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: to bogans. Now that frustrated and upset a lot of people, 248 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: shots fired. They again, I had the feeling it was satirical. 249 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: I think she really hit the nail on the head 250 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: about this concept of people wearing a uniform. Ever since TikTok, 251 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: there's been this real desire to replicate trends and follow 252 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: whatever the cool girl is currently wearing on there. It's 253 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: not a platform that encourages people to be different and 254 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: stand out, because you get rewarded if you copy other 255 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: people's fashion trends. It's all about making sure also that 256 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: you fit this cool girl aesthetic that's being dictated to us. 257 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: And I think that with the cost of living crisis, 258 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: we're also being told to look at capsule wardrobes and 259 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: buy items that we can mix and match with others, 260 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: and people are moving away from statement items. I'm always 261 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: hearing stylist talk on TikTok about this is how you 262 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: can create a uniform for work or a uniform for 263 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: the weekend. Even no one has their own style, as 264 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: you said, anymore, no one wants to stand out from 265 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: the crowd. There's been so many times I've gone to 266 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a cafe and it's the white fox hoodies, like as 267 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Kate said, everyone wears. And I think, how embarrassing would 268 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: that be if teenage? Yeah, all tenagers. It's kind of 269 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: like when we were at high school and you'd have 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: casual day. But back when we were high Scott was 271 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: the billabong jacket and you'd be so embarrassed because you'd 272 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: rock up and two other people would be wearing the 273 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: same bang. It would be awful. As an adult, it's 274 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: really awkward wearing the same thing as someone as well. 275 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: I went to a wedding recently where I wore this 276 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: bright blue dress. It was my sister in law's wedding 277 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: and one of her friends wore the exact same dress, 278 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: but we just had to own it. We ended up 279 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: getting photos together and it was something we could bond over. 280 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: But I do see the irony of going out to brunch. 281 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: For some reason, I always envision in Melbourne and there's 282 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: just a swarm of thirty something women in this fluffy 283 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: jumper than Dewey is walking around little Kiwi fruits. Thank 284 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: god there are different colors though, that might at least 285 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: make you stand out a little bit. 286 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Now. 287 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Kate's video went absolutely viral, with a large portion of 288 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: women actually agreeing wholeheardly with what she said, but it 289 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: was also met with a lot of criticism. So one 290 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: user told Kate that she is giving pick me vibes 291 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: and finished by saying that the Cardi slap so you 292 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: can tell that it's a there these girls sounds so triggered, 293 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: I know. Another person said, have you actually tried it on? 294 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: It's popular for a reason. Now, her video definitely seem 295 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: to ruffle the feathers of fashion influencers who began sharing 296 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: their thoughts on her video, But the catch was that 297 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: they were doing what she described was a dog whistle. 298 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: So what a dog whistle is is that you don't 299 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: actually name the person that you're speaking about, but you 300 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: act as if it's just a general thought about some 301 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: like a trend that's happening, even though it's clearly one 302 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: person that you're directing it out. Hate this this happens 303 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: all the time. We've had this where people will literally like, 304 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: they'll be talking about something our podcast has spoken about, 305 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: but they won't reference the podcast because they know that 306 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: people will go over to it and agree, Yeah, why 307 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: no context is what they're saying either because they're like, oh, 308 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really matter. It was you know, 309 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: it was some gossip thing. And then and it's like, no, 310 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: just name it. Own it. You gotta call something out, 311 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: name it. The funniest thing is I think that we 312 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: were actually just dog whistling ourselves then. But I think 313 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: people will be able to read into it. Will we 314 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: name and name and shame all the time. We may 315 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: go into that in a subs episode because we're getting 316 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: off track now. A fashion influencer called ari Yasman, who 317 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: has over twenty thousand followers on TikTok, created a video 318 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: not naming Kate, but saying she doesn't like the current 319 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: trend of people critiquing viral outfits in a passive aggressive way. 320 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 6: Here's what she said, quick one, When did we start 321 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: being mean to people about liking and wearing popular items 322 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 6: of clothing. There's a genre of video I really like 323 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 6: on here, which is kind of talking about trends, maybe 324 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 6: critiquing trends, maybe critiquing brands when they're not doing good enough, 325 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 6: like the Witchery rebrand. Then there's another trend that I 326 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 6: don't think I like so much, and that's kind of 327 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 6: critiquing individual creators or people for wearing what we don't 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 6: think are interesting enough outfits, or wearing something that's really 329 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 6: viral or really popular. Some of the stuff I've seen 330 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 6: recently kind of just seems to be being passive aggressive 331 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 6: to people who like wearing things that are popular in 332 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 6: Australia right now. But I feel like, are we not 333 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: just making women feel bad about themselves for something that's 334 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 6: not problematic and not hurting anyone. 335 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: She finished by asking everyone else's thoughts on the matter 336 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: and says she's forming her opinion on it as she speaks. However, 337 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Kate Forster actually accused her of removing any comments that 338 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: didn't agree with her opinion. So it's interesting to ask 339 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: for comments but then not like it when someone shares 340 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: a different opinion. Now, there was a very mixed response, 341 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: as I said in the comment section, and one of 342 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: the notable responses was from Victoria Devine, who runs the 343 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast, and she agreed with Ari's sentiment, writing, 344 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: it's not even being passive aggressive, She's being a bully. 345 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe in twenty twenty four so many people 346 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: are supportive of her content. Now, a follower reply to 347 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: Victoria saying, I'm genuinely surprised to see you making this comment. 348 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: I followed you for a while now which part is bulling? 349 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: And I shared the same sentiment as this commenter now, 350 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Victoria responded, if you don't see the content I'm referring 351 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: to as blatant bulling, perhaps you shouldn't follow me. She continued, 352 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: saying her body shaming and name calling should be glaringly 353 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: obvious signs of bullying. No, I'm really surprised that Victoria 354 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: would weigh into this and have this opinion. I mean, 355 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: she is a friend of the podcast, we have heard 356 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: her on the show before. Though maybe she owns a 357 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Henny Cardigan and just saw red like I don't know. 358 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: I do think that the word bulling by the general public, though, 359 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: has been weaponized in twenty twenty four. I think that 360 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: people are so quick to label any sort of critical 361 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: thinking as bulling, and just because someone might critique something 362 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: or challenge your way of thinking, I don't think that 363 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: we can categorize that as bulling. I have never seen 364 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Kate body shame anyone. I've consumed a lot of her content, 365 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: and if anything, she is the one who has been 366 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: copying a lot of derogatory remarks about her appearance. There's 367 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: been a lot of young women seeming to take issue 368 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: with the way that she looks, calling her fat, saying 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: she looks like Hagrid, and she's had a laugh about that, 370 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: but I can tell that it has actually affected her. 371 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: It's just so nasty. The whole thing to me seems 372 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: quite ageist. It's like, how dare you a woman who's 373 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: in her fifties have an opinion on fashion? Yeah, that's 374 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: ultimately what I think it comes down to. You know, 375 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: in this day and age where everyone's so woke, maybe 376 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: this content might be surprising to some because it's quite 377 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: refreshing to see someone actually being satirical. She drops the 378 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: odd F bomb, she pokes fun. It's very lighthearted. But 379 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: do any of these Jen Edison have like a sense 380 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: of humans? Yet? How can people not tell this is 381 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: a jog and it's not even as you said, it's not. 382 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: She hasn't body shamed anyone. It's simply a joke about fashion, 383 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: but it's also the fact that she is actually very 384 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: passionate about fashion, and she's just calling out the fact 385 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: that there's no individuality and she wants people to support 386 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: smaller brands because a lot of smaller fashion brands are 387 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: going under now. Kate hit back to the critique, saying this. 388 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Say, a lot of these fucking young women on here 389 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: who are afraid to actually say what they think. Do 390 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: you know what, that's the number one thing that will 391 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: get you through life is fucking sticking to your ideals 392 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: and your values and having a fucking inner moral compass. Right. 393 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: I don't give a shit what fucking cardigan you wear. 394 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: I actually really don't care. It's all a fucking meme. 395 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: This app it's all a meme simply asking people to 396 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: look at other brands because the Australian industry, fashion industry 397 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: is in the fucking toilet. So if you're all wearing Hanny, 398 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: what about the other nitweb providers. 399 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: Kate also raised a really interesting point about kickbacks which 400 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: influencers receive for pushing certain brands. So a common theme 401 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: through the viral Henny Cardigan videos is influencers offering up 402 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: their LTK links to shop the law. Yeah, and if 403 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: you haven't seen LTK before, it is basically an app 404 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: where you can shop your favorite influencers content. So they 405 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: don't just put clothes up there. You can also shop 406 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: their furniture and their house, or their paintings or their homeware. 407 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: It's very clever marketing. It's basically an affiliate link, so 408 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: everything is for sale, that's right. So what happens with 409 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: the Henny cardigan is an influencer will share their LTK 410 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: link and it will then direct you to the Henny website. 411 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: But what a lot of people don't know is that 412 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: the influencer actually receives a commission for each purchase you make. 413 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: It can be very lucrative for fashion influencers because they 414 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: can make anywhere between ten to thirty percent off that 415 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: affiliate link. So when it comes to an item like 416 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: at the Henny cardigan, which is two hundred and twenty 417 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: nine dollars, they are making twenty two dollars ninety of 418 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: every cardigan you purchase from their link, So clearly they 419 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: have an incentive to be pushing that cardigan, to be 420 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: creating content around that Cardigan and Hennier also very clever 421 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: to be on LTK because they get access to over 422 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand influencers who were signed up to it, 423 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: and when you search Henny on LTK, you can see 424 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: just how many people are collaborating with them, just how 425 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: many people are building hype over this cardigan. Now, this 426 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: discovery led Kate to question are the kickbacks the reason 427 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: so many influencers are pushing this cardigan? Here's what she 428 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: had to say. 429 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 5: So is the Henny Cardigan viral because it's a great cardigan, 430 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 5: because I've heard mixed reviews and I don't give a shit. 431 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 5: I'm never gonna wear it. Is it viral because everyone 432 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 5: loves it? Or is it viral because all the influencers 433 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 5: are getting a percentage of when they sell it, so 434 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 5: you have to be transparent as an influencer. 435 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Kate also questioned the transparency, saying if influencers have to 436 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: declare paid partnerships, why don't they have to say they're 437 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: getting a cut each time they push a cardigan? Which 438 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: is such a good point. It is such a valid 439 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: point because if I'm shopping in influencers, look, I want 440 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: to know what they're making from it, because are they 441 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: telling me that this pair of jeans is great because 442 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: they genuinely like it, or is it because they're making 443 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: a huge commission of it now. Things really escalated when 444 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Kate started receiving prank calls to her house, so she 445 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: posted a TikTok at one am on a Saturday night 446 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: saying she hadn't slept because of repeated calls from people 447 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: abusing her for calling out influences over a cardigan. Here's 448 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: what she said. 449 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: I have received repeated phone calls to my house to 450 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: my mobile phone, which I don't know where they got 451 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: my fucking number. I probably didn't hide it very well. 452 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: They have called me many times and made fun of 453 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: me over the phone about this. So if you think 454 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: you're standing for Henny, you're actually putting a massive skid 455 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: mark on it, because now on and my I don't know, 456 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: NOI sixteen thousand followers probably are going to look at 457 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: this brand and gone say, well, you kind of aren't 458 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: pretending to be something that you're not more power than 459 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: you think by threatening me over the phone, by invading 460 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 2: my personal space because I asked an influencer who always 461 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: talks about fashion to try other brands and then ask 462 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 2: general Australian influencers to try other brands because Australian fashion 463 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: is in a crisis. You have actually done this brand 464 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: a disservice because you have made the brand look like 465 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: main girls. I don't know if they are or aren't. 466 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: Kate finished by saying she was worried for her safety. 467 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: This is shocking that things have escalated this much over 468 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: a cardigan. It would be really terrifying for her as well. 469 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean she's got ten age kids, she's hopped on 470 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: TikTok really for the first time. I mean, she's no 471 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: stranger to the industry. She's had radio shows before, she's 472 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: a very successful author. But it would be a very 473 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: strange feeling to be targeted in this way over something 474 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: that you see as lighthearted. For TikTokers are just next level, 475 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: aren't they. Yeah? I mean I think strolling and the 476 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: commentary's disgusting. Absolute cesspool of people. Now I want to 477 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: point out what an absolute class act Nadia Bartel is 478 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: because following this revelation, she DMed Kate to apologize. She wrote, Hi, Kate, 479 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: I am reaching out to you because of a few 480 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: of your tiktoks I've seen. I'm so sorry you have 481 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: been receiving threatening calls to your home. Neither Henny nor 482 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: I support bulling of any form. So Kate shared this 483 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: DM to her TikTok, saying she told Nadia the tea 484 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: and they both agreed. Some people in privileged positions should 485 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: know better what an absolute burn she is sharing this 486 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: to her TikTok to say that your queen, Nadia Bartell 487 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: is siding with me. It's just a big fuck you. Basically, 488 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: I just think that this is a really fantastic pr 489 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: move by Nadia. She could have blocked Kate or got 490 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: angry that she was commenting about her brand, but she 491 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: rose above her and befriended her. And I think we've 492 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: seen so many influences in the past take any sort 493 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: of criticism or feedback badly. They blow up and they 494 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: don't even take the chance to actually look at what 495 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: people have said about them. Yeah, here's some free PR 496 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: advice for influencers. If you get called out, don't go 497 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: on the attack. Go in there with kindness. Because of anything, 498 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: Kate has actually pumped up this cardigan even more. She 499 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: has shown how devoted these Henny fans are. I want 500 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: it now exactly. I might have looked at Henny I 501 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't think the Kiwi cardigan is 502 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: for me. But she's got some k Selene, Selene, She's 503 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: got some really amazing bomber jackets and jeans. Nadia just 504 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: looks cool in anything. I stand that so hard. Did 505 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: you bring out like a penny plastic bag for freakin 506 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: two hundred bucks and people would buy it? Or maybe 507 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: not plastic, maybe paper. 508 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: You guys are gonna be her best friend. 509 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Perth influencer m Davies has announced the birth of her 510 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: first child, and surprisingly, this is an influencer baby name. 511 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: I think that outspoken can get behind. Yeah, I really 512 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: like it. So Em and her partner Joel Gamban have 513 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: named their daughter Eila Sue Gambon, and perhaps this is 514 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: a sign of the times that we're going to see 515 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: more influencers going for traditional names. Well, Eiler was actually 516 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: crowned as the most popular girl's name in Queensland in 517 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and as you said, Amy, it is 518 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: quite unusual to see influencers go for a name that's 519 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: very mainstream. 520 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 521 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: Well, Em previously told her followers not to expect a 522 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: weird baby name from her because she said she much 523 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: prefers the traditional names, and she even gave her followers 524 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: an insight into the style of baby names she liked 525 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: before give birth. So for the girls that included Delilah, Maye, Sadie, Stevie, Rommy, 526 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: and Alaura, I'd say there are a few unusual names 527 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: the way. Well, I think that they're pretty normal by 528 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: today's stand Yeah, it's not like kombucherous because my algorithm 529 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: is constantly feeding me kids' names and these ones are 530 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: very popular at the moment. And for boys' names, she 531 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: also liked Blue, Carter, and Kai. And it was really 532 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: beautiful because Em selected her baby's middle name as Sue, 533 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: and that's named after her mum, who sadly passed away. 534 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Some followers were quite intrigued because em had said that 535 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: no matter what, she wanted, to call the baby's middle 536 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: name Sue. So people were thinking, well, if you were 537 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: going to call your boy blue, would it have been blue? 538 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Sue sounds like blues clues. Surely she wouldn't have given 539 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: the name Sue for a boys, I know now. Her 540 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: mom did sadly pass away a couple of years ago, 541 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: and em has spoken in great depth about feeling very 542 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: connected to her mum during her pregnancy, particularly being pregnant 543 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: with a baby girl, and she shared a really sweet 544 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: photo showing a little red birthmark near her daughter's eye 545 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: and wrote angel kisses from Nanny in the sky, which 546 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: was really sweet. Well, m broke the news on Instagram, 547 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: sharing a carousel of photos of her newborn with the 548 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: caption thirteen eight twenty four six seven pm Isla Sue Gambon, 549 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I've never felt a love like this. We did it, 550 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: and she tagged her partner Joel Gambon. The post received 551 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: over eighty eight thousand likes and the Blue Tick Brigade 552 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: were out in force in the comments section. So Sammy 553 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Robinson wrote congratulations, beautiful family. Tammy Hembro added crying She's 554 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: so perfect. Love you guys, while Skywheetly commented looks like 555 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: an actual doll. I'm crying. She is a very beautiful baby. Yeah, 556 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: she's a gorgeous little girl. And Chloe Zepp, Gracie Piscapo, 557 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Indy Clinton, so for dof jar Da Tunci, Tylia Skeaines 558 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: and Lucy Jackson were also amongst the well known Aussie 559 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: influencers commenting, I'm assuming Lily Brown did as well, but 560 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: she's blow I couldn't see her comment well. I also 561 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: noticed that Nicky and Lucy took time away from their 562 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: amazing trip of Mikinos where they are celebrating Nicky's hands 563 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: to face time with EM. I wonder if they'll be 564 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: competing with Lily Brown to be sort of like the 565 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: best to your well, A lot of the time, when 566 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: someone has a baby and there's baby showers and then 567 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: birthday parties following it, you realize it's such a special 568 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: time in someone's life that you sort of drop all 569 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: of that shit. So maybe this will be an opportunity 570 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: for the gang to get back together bybee Now, EM 571 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: has been really active on TikTok and she's even added 572 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: Eila's mamma to her name, and her birth video has 573 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: wrapped up one million views on Instagram already. So this 574 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: video shows all the highlights of the birthing experience. So 575 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: we see EM and Joel walking into the hospital, as 576 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: well as EM in the hospital bed strapped up to 577 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: all of the monitoring systems and EM opted for a 578 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: vaginal birth, and you can see a photo of EM's 579 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: mum propped up by her bed as she gives birth, 580 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: which was just such a sweet touch. The video also 581 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: shows snippets of Em crying as Joel comforts her and 582 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: shots of the delivery. Now, a lot of people were 583 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: commenting who actually filmed this content? I think maybe people 584 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: were thinking, was it the nurses, it like the midwife videography. Yeah, 585 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: but it was actually two of EM's friends who were 586 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: support people, like they were allowed in the birthing sweet 587 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: and they did such a good job. It has only 588 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: been five days since Em gave birth, but she is 589 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: delivering on the newborn content. So she shared the hot 590 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: dad style TikTok video of Joel carrying baby Isler out 591 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: of the hospital in her capsule. That is a very 592 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: viral video that I'm seeing a lot of creators making. 593 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: She also shared a hilarious video of her holding her 594 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: baby in the hospital bed surrounded by sushi, with the 595 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: caption It's good being zero weeks present. She has been 596 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: missing that a lot. 597 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: Are you doing those? 598 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: We're running? 599 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Snow, a shop fitting company run by Guy Wheatley's 600 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: partner Lockie War, has gone into external administration after reportedly 601 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: being unable to pay its debts now. Amy. This came 602 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: as a bit of a surprise because Lockie's business, which 603 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: is called shop fit Co, has recently been running a 604 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: large social media as campaign talking about how they're expanding 605 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: their operations. Yeah, this kept popping up on my Instagram 606 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: feed for some reason. And shop fit Co is a 607 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: very well known business on the Gold Coast. It has 608 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: completed fit outs for a number of high profile shops, 609 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: including Quicksilver, Muffin Break and also Sassin Byte. There has 610 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: been no official word yet from Locke or Sky about 611 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: the company going into external administration, and even on Thursday, 612 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: the company was still uploading posts on as social media account. Yeah, 613 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: and shop fit Co is regularly featured in Sky's YouTube videos. 614 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: So they are renovating their Gold Coast mansion. They've been 615 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: renovating it for what feels like forever, It's been five years, 616 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: and in recent videos we've seen Locke's staff popping up 617 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: in their shop fit Ko shirt carrying out the renovations. 618 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's because there's not much work for 619 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: them to be doing on other projects, so like, better 620 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: get my money's worth and get them working on my 621 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: own house. Well, the image that they've been portraying, is 622 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: this is a very successful business. Yeah, they definitely give 623 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: off this impression that they're very successful. That being said, 624 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: there have been some whispers about financial issues within the 625 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: business because there were reports that Locke's company had been 626 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: locked in a very bitter court battle with a Sydney 627 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: man since twenty twenty three, and Shopfit Co says that 628 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: the man still owes them close to sixty thousand dollars 629 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: for a fit out that they did for a Portuguese 630 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: burger bar. Now things got murkier because the business owner 631 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: is now countersuing Shopfit, alleging that the work was not 632 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: up to scratch and they're wanting damages for a breach 633 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: of contract and also loss of opportunity. So it sounds 634 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: like a very stressful time. Yeah, And I think there's 635 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: also a bit of confusion over this term external administration 636 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: and what it actually means. So for those who are unaware, 637 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: it basically means that someone from outside of Locke's business, 638 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: known as an external administrator, has been appointed to either 639 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: try and save this business, to sell it, or to 640 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: wind it down to try and repay its debts. And 641 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: according to the Gold Coast bulletin. Shop fit Co is 642 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: being administered under the Small Business Restructuring Program, So this 643 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: program gives companies with debts of less than one million 644 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: dollars a last ditch attempt to avoid liquidation. And interestingly, 645 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: documents show that the majority of the money that shop 646 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: fit Co actually owes is to the ATO, and there 647 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: have been a lot of reports that the ATO is 648 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: undergoing a massive crackdown. So we're seeing a lot of businesses, 649 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: especially construction businesses, currently being chased by the ATO for 650 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: unpaid taxes. And this is because there was a pandemic 651 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: induced hiatus on the ATO enforcing these tax payments. Now, 652 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: this story has been making a lot of headlines, particularly 653 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast, and it's good to see the sky. 654 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: Wheatley has been very sensitive handling this situation with her 655 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: partner because she has been poking a lot of fun 656 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: at him about it. So over the weekend she shared 657 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: an Instagram story of Lockey washing her car and she wrote, 658 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: never seen him do this. I'm giving him pocket money 659 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: since he's broke now with three cry pass Well, surely 660 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: things aren't that die if she's paying him out all. 661 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: I just think it's her sense of humor. A lot 662 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: of fans have noticed that Locke has had much more 663 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: of a presence on a social media account, because previously 664 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: he would protest to being in a TikTok videos and 665 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: he'd begrudgingly appear. But now he seems sort of down 666 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: to be in it, and I wonder if it's because 667 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: now that his business isn't doing so well, he thinks, fuck, 668 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: maybe I've got to have a social media presence online. 669 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: Maybe this is a secondary income for me. I think 670 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's made him appreciate Sky more and he's thought, well, fuck, 671 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: is Sky's actually going to be bringing in most of 672 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: the income into this family? Maybe I need to support her. Well, 673 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so 674 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: much for listening to another episode. Please don't forget to 675 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram and TikTok. We're at Outspoken Underscore 676 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: the Underscore podcast. Also, you can follow Kate, Sophie and 677 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: I on Instagram. Will be sharing some fun behind the 678 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: scenes videos soon. A bit of a fun fact. This 679 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: is the second time we have recorded this episode and 680 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: that is why it is a day late because we 681 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: had a major technical difficulty. We have new recording equipment. 682 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: But we have very old microphones and old microphone cards, 683 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: and one of them is faulty. So you went to 684 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: sit down on Monday night and edit a amy and 685 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: my whole microphone was crackling. I tried to edit it 686 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: around it, but it was just absolutely impossible. My husband 687 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: was so mad at me. I was literally sitting on 688 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: the toilet when you're cold, and I just was like, yeah, 689 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: every time you get some kind of news, you're sitting 690 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: on the toilet. Last week it was the Molly and 691 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Tommy News. Now it was the podcast is when you're 692 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: on your phone, you've got time to scroll anyway, leaving 693 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: everyone with that beautiful image. But this episode was recorded 694 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the 695 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present. 696 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: To the past found nas