1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the Order Kernye Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money the podcast 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: Millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another one 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: of our money diaries where I get the absolute privilege 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: of talking to one of our Shees on the Money 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: community members all about their journey. Let's jump straight into it, 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: because this week I got a message and it went 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: like this. Hi Ve, I was married at eighteen, I 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: owned two properties by twenty and had two babies by 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: twenty one. I'm now working full time to support my 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: family while studying part time. I would love to share 22 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: the experience of going from a two income household to 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: one with the community money diarists, I would also love 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: for you to share that story. Welcome to the show, 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: and thank you for wanting to share. 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: I am so excited about this. I feel like married 28 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: at eighteen two, properties at twenty two, babies at twenty one, 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: like what the hecking like? That is a very condensed 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: timeframe that I need to know a lot about. But 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: before we get there, let's jump straight in moneyed diarist. 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Before we start, what grade would you give your money 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: habits if I asked you to give them a grade 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: from A through to F. 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: I've been thinking a little bit on this question, and 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: I've been going back and forward with a couple of 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: different grades. I'd say I'd probably place myself around the 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 4: B minus, but it could fluctuate a little bit depending 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: on how sitting myself on the day. 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: Well, we're about to learn a lot more about this, 41 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: so I'm excited. Let's jump to my favorite question ever, 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: moneyed Diarist, Can you please tell me a little bit 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: more about your money story? 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely so. I would say that I grew up 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: in a fairly like middle income earning household. We weren't 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: super rich, but my parents also made sure that we 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: had everything that we needed and we were still able 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: to enjoy like the occasional family holiday, and it wasn't 49 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: down to the dollar. So it was always a pretty 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: comfortable relationship with money I had when I was growing up. 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: I would definitely say that when I was younger, I 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 4: wasn't a very good saver. I'm still learning out to 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: be a good saver, relatable. I spend happy. So my 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: parents always sort of trying to teach us how to 55 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: save a bit of our money not spend it all 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: in one place, which very few teenagers will listen to 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 4: that advice. 58 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes we just have to learn on our own. Sometimes 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: I have to make my own mistake absolutely to learn 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: that maybe that's not what we should be doing. 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: Definitely, So that was always a little bit of that. 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: And then probably about three months out of high school, 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: two three months, I found out I was pregnant with 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: my daughter, and so that was a bit scary. 65 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: That's a lot. So how old were you. 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: I was seventeen at the time. 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Oh, she's just a baby having a baby. 68 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was, yeah, just crushed out of high school. 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: Me and my partner which now husband, had been together 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: a little bit over a year at the time, and. 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: You guys are still together. Yes, I love this so much. 72 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. So we started dating in grade eleven, so we've 73 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: been together for it'll be six years this year and 74 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: married for three years this year. So yeah, that was 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: a bit hectic. So I had my daughter when I 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: was eighteen, and we didn't move out of home until 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: I was seven eight months pregnant. I was still living 78 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: with my parents at the time. 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: I would have milked out for all of it was worth, honestly, 80 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: I would have done exactly the same thing. 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 4: And so we got a little one bedroom apartment we 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: moved into when I was like eight months pregnant. I 83 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: was working in the family business at the time as 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: a trainee, so I was long training ages. They were 85 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: not very good. 86 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. As someone who's also like eight months 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: pregnant right now, moving and eight months pregnant like hoofed, no, 88 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: thank you, it was a lot. 89 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: But we had so many people helping us out, which 90 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: was amazing. We both have pretty big families, and so, yeah, 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: we had my daughter. I was a trainee at the 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: time and my husband was just working like casually in hospitalities. 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: So what were you with training in. 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: I worked well, I worked at a mortgage brokerage, so 95 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: I was doing a business admin traineeship at the time. 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: And yeah, so things with my birth my daughter didn't 97 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: really go as planned. There were quite a few complications 98 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: after I had her, so I wasn't able to drive 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: or six months after I had my daughter. 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, youre you okay now? 101 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 4: Yes, everything's all good now. But so I wasn't able 102 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: to drive for six months after I had my daughter, 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: which was definitely a challenge. 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: Six months, Yes, like a low key, like complete side note, 105 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: I am terrified that I'll end up with a C section, 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: purely because I don't want to not drive for six weeks. Yeah, 107 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm like that feels like I'll be trapped. So six 108 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: months would have been terrifying. 109 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: Six months it was very difficult. But thankfully where we'd moved, 110 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 4: we were super super close to my parents' house, were 111 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: only like a few streets away, so nice. With all 112 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: the complications that happened with my birth, I wasn't really 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: comfortable at saying at home by myself just with the 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: baby while my husband was at work, so my husband 115 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 4: would drop me off at my parents' house while he 116 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: went to work because he started a full time job 117 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 4: two weeks after we had our daughter. 118 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you really do do what you got 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: to do? 120 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 5: Hey. 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was at my parents' house every day 122 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: with my daughter, and I was like, well, she's just 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 4: a newborn, she's just sleeping. I'm kind of bored. So 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: I went back to work two weeks after I'd had 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: my daughter. 126 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, no, what are you doing? Also low key, 127 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: your parents probably loved having you and her around. 128 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, often it was we were the first grand 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: baby on my site and my husband's side of the family, 130 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: so it was absolutely spoiled dred percent. Yeah. So I 131 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: didn't really take maternity leave after having my daughter. I 132 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: was just working from home at my parents' place. Then 133 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: pretty much into like a drive again, or I would 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: go into the office with my family because we all 135 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: worked at the same place. And then so yeah, that 136 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: was that. And then come into the end of twenty twenty, 137 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: so I'd had my daughter in September and December, we 138 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: were like, look, we're not going to be in this 139 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: rental property forever. We'd only signed the six month lease 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: at the time, and we were like, the rental market 141 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: isn't great. The real estate market. I kind of knew 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: what was going on, and I was like, the housing 143 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: market is going to be going up. If we don't 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: take advantage of it now, we're never going to be 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 4: able to And we were obviously in the privileged position 146 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: that my family was able to give up loan US 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: money to be able to purchase a house. So we 148 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 4: found the one house in our area that was within 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: our price range. It was an off the plan and. 150 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: You were like, oh, buy this one because this is 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: the only. 152 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: The only option. Yeah, it was an off the plan, 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: and we were like, we need to have a contract 154 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: signed by the end of the year so we can 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: get all of these grants and everything. So it was 156 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: very on the whim, signed it like a week or 157 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: two up. We decided that's what we were doing, and 158 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 4: then that was built by June of twenty twenty one. 159 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: We moved in June twenty twenty one and that was 160 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: our first house. So we were there for a year 161 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: year and a half. But the property market, as I said, 162 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: went up really really quickly. So we bought our house 163 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: and within like six to twelve months, it had gone 164 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: up by like at least one hundred thousand dollars in value. 165 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, money, win, that's some nice equity. 166 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: It wasn't nice equity. So I was like, look, we 167 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: could take out some of this equity and look and 168 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: see if there's any investment properties that we'd be interested 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: in buying. I was like, we're on a roll. Why 170 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: stop now. So we were able to take out some 171 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: equity and find a little studio property that was super 172 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 4: cheap and already had attendant in it and everything, and 173 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: we purchased that at the start of twenty twenty one. 174 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: And then that could have sort of just blotted along. 175 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: There wasn't really anything to do with that. And then 176 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: I found out that I was pregnant with my son 177 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: in December of twenty twenty two, and it was just 178 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: a little bit of a whirlwind. So we'd had both 179 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: the houses and we were like, look, what is the plan. 180 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 4: So we sort of sat down, looked at our finances, 181 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: looked at everything, and we were like, we can make 182 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: it work staying in our house. But at that point, 183 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: both my husband and I were studying, and so we 184 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: decided probably not the best financial decision unless we want 185 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: to be counting pennies. And so again we were in 186 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: the privileged position that my grandmother had heats of room 187 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: at her house. And so I had my son in 188 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: August twenty twenty three again and say getting maternityly because 189 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: I was just like, I'm too bored to sit at 190 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: home with a newborn. I'll just go. 191 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: Crazy as someone who's about to have a baby. And honestly, 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: your work ethic sounds like mine. Sometimes people were like, 193 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that's so admirable, and I'm like, no, 194 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: I would go up the wall if you didn't let 195 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: me work, like I will go crazy, Like I need 196 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: to do this. I can't imagine, and like I'm lucky 197 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: that I've been around so many newborns and I know 198 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: they do sleep a lot, Like what am I going 199 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: to do in that period of time? I know people 200 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: say you need sleep, but I'm like I don't sleep 201 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: at the best of times. So don't know how this 202 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: is going to work. Was going back like in hindsight 203 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: at two weeks was that too early? Were you like no, no, no, 204 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: I just all worked out and I like balanced it, 205 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: or like what did that actually look like I think 206 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: was my daughter. 207 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: It was okay because I was just working from home 208 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: and there were so many people in the house that 209 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: was able to help. Even when my daughter was like awake, 210 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: I was breastfeeding with all the complications, so it was 211 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: pretty easy. I could like get someone else to feed 212 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: her if I was busy doing something. So with my daughter, 213 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: that was good. With my son, I definitely think I 214 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: pushed myself a little bit too hard. I was working 215 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: up until the day that I got in juice. I 216 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: went to work on the Friday morning, worked a half day, 217 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: and then went to the hospital on a Friday afternoon 218 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: to get in juice. 219 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: I feel like that will be me. I regret nothing already. 220 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I was planning on just going back 221 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: to work on Monday, but I was still in the 222 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: hospital on Monday. No, I was still in the hospital 223 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: on Monday. I got discharged Monday, and she's so warning. 224 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: I was working on my laptop with my son. He's 225 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: like three days crazy. 226 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: But I think that people think I'm going to be bad. 227 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be that bad, Like that's bad. 228 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, I think that was like it was definitely 229 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: pushing it I mean, I still feel like it was 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: the right decision for me at the time. I don't 231 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: think i'd necessarily change it, but I definitely think like 232 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: future children, now that we would have like three or 233 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: more kids, I would definitely take the time to just 234 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: take my fair share of praternity leaves. 235 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: But following yeah, fair. 236 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I think looking back on it in hindsight, 237 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: it definitely was what I would do even if I 238 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: went back, and I might get myself another week or two, 239 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: but I just think I would have been too bored. 240 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair, Fair, So you've had your second son, you 241 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: started in mortgage breaking, what are you now studying? Like, 242 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: where are we at today? 243 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: So at the moment, I'm studying. I'm doing a double 244 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: degree in business and psychology. I've just started this last 245 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: summer semester. I'm finishing my first semester at the moment, 246 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: so I've just gone back into it. But yeah, I'm 247 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: just doing that part time and I'm no longer working 248 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: in a mortgage brokerage. So in October we moved in 249 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: with my grandma and we put our previous house we 250 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: were living in also up on the market. And then 251 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: in November I started my new job. So I'm working 252 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: in a government agency now in like debt, and so 253 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: that is Monday to Friday, like eight thirty to four 254 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: point thirty. So, timmy just kind of revolves around that 255 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: at the moment. 256 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: How cool. And you said that you now have a 257 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: one income household. Does that mean that your partner is 258 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: not working? 259 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: Yes, so my partner is now a full time stay 260 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: at home dad, okay you He's also going back to 261 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: full time UNI in a couple of weeks. So when 262 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 4: we moved, because it was just such a big shift, 263 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 4: we figured we take the kids out of day care 264 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: for a little bit and just let them settle with 265 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: one change at a time. So just get them a 266 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 4: couple months to settle into the new environment. So both 267 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: of the kids will be going into daycare in the 268 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: next two weeks the sum of February, and my husband 269 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: will be going back into UNI menpav, So that'll be 270 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: in daycare three days a week and then with h 271 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: the other two. 272 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah cool. I love this for you, all right. So 273 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: that makes me want to go back into the structured 274 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: questions that I always bring to the table, but get 275 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: completely sidetracked on what does that mean you earn if 276 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: you work for a government agency in debt, what are 277 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: you earning? 278 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: So at the moment, I'm on sixty seven, five hundred 279 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: and seventy seven dollars a year. That's not very specific, Yeah, 280 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: very very broad, and my super I completely got checked. 281 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: But it's like fourteen fifteen per cent super on top. 282 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Of that, very very real. Nice. And you've bought and 283 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: sold properties, You've had babies, you've already gotten married. But 284 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: what are your big money goals at the moment? What 285 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: are you and your partner working towards. 286 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: Well, we'll dive into it like a little bit later 287 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: as well. At the moment, we're just trying to pay 288 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: off most of our personal debt, so we are actually 289 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: in debates in the moment about selling one of our 290 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: investment properties to be able to just wipe house late 291 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: and be pretty free. Well we're still on one income, 292 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: but that's still in the debating stage. But yeah, at 293 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: the moment, we're just focusing on paying down the debt. 294 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: And we've got quite a few big family holidays planned 295 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: over the next few years which will be quite expensive, 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: so we're saving for those as well. 297 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh exciting though, Yeah, how fun? All right? Let's go 298 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: to a really quick break. And on the flip side, 299 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: you mentioned some personal debt. I want to dive into that. 300 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: I also want to know all the pervy details about 301 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: what mortgages you still have and what you owe and 302 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: how all of that works. So guys, don't go anywhere, 303 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: all right, money direst do We are back and we 304 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: are going to start with investment. I wantn't know. Obviously 305 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: you've got investment properties, but do you have any investments? 306 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: If so, what are they? Please share? 307 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Of course, so yeah, obviously we have our to 308 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: investment properties. So did you want my values of them? 309 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 310 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: I want as much detail as you'll let us have. Like, 311 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: have you ever listened to a money diary and been like, damn, 312 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: I wish you didn't tell me how much she owed 313 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: on that? 314 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: No, No, that's totally fine. So our first property we 315 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: ever bought, which was our owner occupied homes for a while, 316 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: is probably worse between like five hundred and five to 317 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: fifty at the moment, and we've got owing on that 318 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: about four hundred and fifteen thousands. 319 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: Hey, that's pretty good. It's still sitting on some nice equity. 320 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not bad. And then our second property. We 321 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: bought it for eighty six thousand dollars. 322 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: No, you didn't eighty six thousand dollars. 323 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hell, it was a little studio up in like 324 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 4: North Queensland, so we bought it for eighty six and 325 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 4: it's probably like between one hundred and thirty do one 326 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand. 327 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: Now, no, it's not. How good is that? 328 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? And that one we've got about seventy eight thousand 329 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 4: dollars owing on it. 330 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: That's a nice position to be in. 331 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's some good equity in both of them. 332 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: And then obviously I've got my Super. So my super's 333 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: sitting just over sixteen thousand at the moment. 334 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: How old are you now today, I'm twenty one. Yeah, 335 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: so you're still a child and you've got sixteen thousand 336 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: dollars in Super, You've got two properties, You've got some 337 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: nice equity on it. Like how at twenty one I 338 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: was drunk. I definitely wasn't thinking about this. 339 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So my goal is I'm hoping to get to 340 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: twenty five thousand dollars and Super by the end of 341 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 4: the YEA. 342 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah you will, don't worry. 343 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: I know that I'll get to twenty, but I'm hoping 344 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: I'll only get to twenty five. I have sat down 345 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: and worked out the numbers exactly, and then I've also 346 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: got a chare Zia's account has just over six hundred 347 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: dollars in it at the moment. 348 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: How did you get involved with chare Zias? I can like, 349 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: what did you pick? How did you pick it? What 350 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: did all that look like? Well? I heard about Chazea's 351 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: on the show Well Revolutionary. 352 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: Previously, all my investing information had come from all of 353 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 4: the men in my life, so it was use this 354 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: super detailed app and you have to write down this 355 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: twenty seven word secret password and do all of this thing. 356 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: And I was like, that's that's too much for me, no, 357 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: thank you. So yeah, I heard about chair Zia's on 358 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 4: the podcast and I just downloaded it, and I don't know, 359 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: I kind of bigger all of the money that I'm 360 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: putting in it at the moment. Obviously the goal is 361 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: for that to make money in the future, but at 362 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: the moment, I'm only putting in little amounts. I'm really 363 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 4: just sort of playing around seeing what I like. So 364 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 4: I've got kind of a mixture of like more safe things, 365 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: so I've got some like ETFs and all that kind 366 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: of stuff, and then I'll just put in like a 367 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: few dollars here and then to companies that I'm just 368 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: interested in following and seeing how they track over the years. 369 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: And do you find it easy or hard or like obviously, 370 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: I feel like people are overwhelmed, right, People are so 371 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 2: overwhelmed when they're like, oh, an investing app. Absolutely not, 372 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: but like it is easy whishasis or hard or yeah. 373 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: Chases are super super user friendly and so obviously at 374 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 4: the moment, I haven't been putting any extra money into 375 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: it really, but whenever, I just hop on every now 376 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 4: and then and if I've gotten paid a little dibiends 377 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: from one of my investments, so I'll just put it 378 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 4: back in to it, right dude. 379 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you're learning about it all as well, 380 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: in like a way that you're like, no, this makes sense, 381 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: like I like it and I get to have a 382 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: play like yeah, ah, I love it all. Right, let's 383 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: flip the conversation because I want to know about debt. 384 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: Before the break, you said, Oh, my partner and I 385 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna be paying down some personal debt, So tell 386 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: me about your debt. You told us about the mortgages. 387 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: So we know that on your first property you have 388 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: about four hundred and fifteen thousand, oh ing at about 389 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: seventy on the other one. But what's this personal debt? 390 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: Tell us? 391 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 4: So at the moment, I've got a car loan. So 392 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: shortly before I had my son, we had had two 393 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 4: cars and we sold. I had a little car, we'd 394 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: sold that and we were just like, look, we only 395 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: are gonna need one car when we move on with 396 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: my grandmother, so we'll just keep my husband's car. And 397 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: we kind of just assumed at the time it would 398 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: be big enough. And then we got my son's carsiet 399 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: and the double cram and I was like, there is 400 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 4: no way that this car absolutely not. So we kind 401 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: of had to perch the car and I was like, 402 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: we don't really have car money, but our sun is 403 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: due in three weeks. That's the we option we have. 404 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 4: So we had to get a car loan. So that 405 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 4: one's sitting about twenty thousand now, and we ended up 406 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 4: actually just keeping my husband's car because like a bit 407 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: off track, but my grandmother lives on an island. 408 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: On an island, yes. 409 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 4: So we have my husband's car on the island and 410 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: we use that as just like our island car because 411 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: it's owned outright, there's no debt against it or anything. 412 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: So my car on like the mainland has the carloon 413 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: against it. And then we've got a credit card as well. 414 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: That's six thousand, and that's mostly massed out at the 415 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: moment with moving costs and baby costs. 416 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and baby costs are a lot, a lot so much. Wait, 417 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: so you've moved to an island. You failed to disclose 418 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: that part before. That sounds bougie. The fact that you 419 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: have an island car and a mainland car. How do 420 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: you get from the mainland to the island, Like you 421 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: just drive home and then go for a little swim, 422 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: Like what are we doing? 423 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: So there's a ferry and a barge. So the faerry 424 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 4: is like walk on passengers only, and that operates from 425 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: sort of like five six in the morning up until 426 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 4: ten thirty at night, and it's like an every half 427 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: hour basis, so it's pretty regular. And then the barge 428 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: just operates really during the day, so it's yeah, that's 429 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: pretty early around six. That only operates till about like 430 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: three or four, and that's you can drive your car Onto, 431 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 4: but you can also walk on if you'd like. So 432 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: you have to go from the mainland park in the 433 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 4: little car park that everyone parks in, and then get 434 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: onto the ferry, take the ferry home to the island 435 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: and then you can like drive up to the house 436 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 4: from there. 437 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so you've kind of got a curfew 438 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: at home. What if you have a party or something 439 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: on the mainland, what do you do at the moment? 440 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: Really, Like, if we have anything that we know not 441 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: going to make the last very home, We'll just plan 442 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: to stay with my family yep that night and I'll 443 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: just go to work and then we'll go home the 444 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 4: next day. But we aren't exactly packed out with social 445 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: events for two kids, so it's not a massive problem. 446 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: But we me and my husband are definitely both concert enthusiasts. Yeah, 447 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: so we definitely have the occasional concert that we kind 448 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: of have to ship the family over to my parents' 449 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: house to say it. 450 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: That's all right? How cool? 451 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 452 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: I love that. That is not what I expected. When 453 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 2: you're like, yep, we moved are we kept the other car? 454 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, fair enough, Like I wonder why, 455 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: and you told us that it was because you live 456 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: on in Ireland and that makes the most sense. I 457 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: couldn't have guessed. So tell me a bit more about that, Carlon. 458 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: How much is it and how long is it going 459 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: to take you to pay off that one? 460 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Is? 461 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: It's setting at about twenty thousand now. I think we 462 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 4: originally sent it as a seven year loone term just 463 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: so you can have them minim repayments, because we can 464 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: definitely pay it off faster, but I don't want to 465 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: have it too short and then be stratched for cash 466 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: and be worried about a higher repayment. So that one, 467 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: I mean, we only got it later in the year 468 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: last year, so it's still got some time on it, 469 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: but it's costs. I think the four nilely repayments for 470 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: about one hundred and ninety bucks, so it's not too bad. 471 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: All right. Now, I want to know what do you 472 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: think your best money habit is? Like, you don't own 473 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: two houses before twenty one and have babies and get 474 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: married without some good money habits. I know you say, oh, 475 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: like we sometimes make mistakes. I'm like, yeah, but not really. Hey, 476 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: so what are your best money habits? 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'd say my best money habit is I don't 478 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: like paying full price for anything. Neither do I worry 479 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: sounds a little bit strange, but I will like search 480 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: every corners the internet like a discount co food, or 481 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: like wait for its gone stale, or wait for the 482 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: shot back hash back to be like increased, and try 483 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 4: to add up to all these little discounts to be 484 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: able to like purchase something like. I'll always when everyone's like, oh, 485 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: shot back kind of seems like, oh, well, you get 486 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: like a dollar there, a dollar here, I'm like. 487 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: It adds up. 488 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: It adds up. When I look back at my lifetime 489 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: earnings one shot back, I'm like, who am I I'm 490 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: so good. 491 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: You're a money saving queen, that's what you are. 492 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, my shot back lifetime earnings is just over a 493 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: thousand dollars. 494 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one thousand dollars you didn't have before you 495 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: used shot back and it was free money. Like, yeah, 496 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: can't complain. 497 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think I've ever been using shot back 498 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 4: for like a year or two, so I'm like. 499 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: She's using it, well, I like it. You're a fan. Now, 500 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: flip the narrative, what is your worst money habit? 501 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: I would say my worst money habit is. I'm jeff 502 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: a bits then Pappy when it comes to gifting. Gift 503 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: thing is definitely my love language. And when you have 504 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 4: a husband and two kids, you will get trapped down 505 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: the rabbit holes. I'm like, Oh, my daughter would think 506 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: that would be so cute. I should get that for her, 507 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: And it's just spirals. So it got me into a 508 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 4: bit of a sticky situation for a while with after 509 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: pay because I was just putting everything after pay. But 510 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 4: I paid off and closed my off pay today. 511 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, No you didn't. Yeah, Oh congarats, yeah, And. 512 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it was just such a weight 513 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: off my shoulders because I've been in after pay cycle 514 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: for like eight year or so. So I was like, wow, 515 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 4: you go. 516 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so easy to just rely on, isn't it. 517 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: Like it's a slippery slope. Like once you realize how 518 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: then this isn't me saying it's good, but like once 519 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: you realize how easy it can be to use, you're like, oh, 520 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: well that's easy then yeah, and then you slip down 521 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: the slope and realize, oh, this is actually enabling me 522 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: to spend money I shouldn't be spending. You don't really 523 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: want to get rid of it, do you. 524 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 525 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so proud of you, and I can't believe 526 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: you did that today. How well timed is that? 527 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 4: Yep? 528 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's actually I reckon a very perfect 529 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: place to leave it. But before we go, you've just 530 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: told me all this cool stuff, like I cannot believe 531 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: what you've achieved, and you are still, in my eyes 532 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: as a nearly middle aged someone in their thirties. Obviously 533 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: that's me being dramatic, but you're twenty one. So to me, 534 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: I'm like, you are younger than my little sister. That 535 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense because my little sister in my head, 536 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: although she's like twenty nine, she's like, I don't know, 537 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: at least eighteen in my head that's where she's living. 538 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: But you're a literal young young adult and you've smashed 539 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: it all out your own two properties. When you said 540 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: I have some personal debt, I was like, ooh, what 541 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: is it? And then you said it was a Carlo 542 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, well, you know that's still 543 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: technically an asset. Yes, it's a depreciating one. So we're like, 544 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: we don't want to see it in too good of 545 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: a life, but at the same time, for your personal situation, 546 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: that made sense. You're saving, you're investing, you worked in 547 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: mortgage broking, like you now have a government agency job 548 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: in debt. Like what's it going to take to get 549 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: you from a B minus to maybe even just an 550 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: A or N A plus? Like what would that actually 551 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: look like? 552 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: I think for me, I'd like to be able to one. 553 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: I feel like, once I've paid out my car loan 554 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 4: and then I've got a credit card, I don't think 555 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to close the credit card because I'm using 556 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: it for points and stuff. But once I'm not using 557 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: money that I don't have all that kind of stuff 558 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: and have paid out my personal debt, I think that's 559 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: definitely a good place to start. 560 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: I like that. 561 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm like, I think I just I want 562 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: to get a little bit better at living below my 563 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: means and not getting as crazy about trying to keep 564 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: up the joneses, which can be difficult when all of 565 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 4: your friends like out partying and going on holidays and 566 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I'm homeless, stupid. 567 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's such a different circumstance because you wait 568 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: till you're like thirty nine forty and they're still at 569 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: home looking after you're the kids, and you're like, we 570 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: are having our best lives right now. 571 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I think once we've wiped out our 572 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: personal debt and we're just a little bit more comfortable 573 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: spot well and not having to out all of our dollars, 574 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: I'd like to be able to just go out, go 575 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: to the shops, do my stuff and not have to 576 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: be checking my bag out to make sure there's enough 577 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: money in there. I think that's where I'd like to be, 578 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 4: and investing a bit more regularly, which obviously is sort 579 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: of on the back burner, but. 580 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: All of that is so doable, Like there's nothing that's 581 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: completely out of reach. That makes me so excited. So 582 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: I'll just like check in with you in a couple 583 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 2: of years and be like, where are you at now? 584 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: It's you, babes, I'm at a plus. Clearly I love 585 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: it money, Doris. Thank you so much for sharing this. 586 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: This has been super interesting. I'm very very proud of 587 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: what you've achieved and how far you've come, and like 588 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: all of this stuff that you're doing, but also just 589 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: this idea that you're like, no, no, no, I actually 590 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: know what it's going to take to get me to 591 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: an a plus like that. Clarity is so powerful. But 592 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: thank you for sharing with a community. I've loved this. 593 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: It's been a fun chat, and I think our community 594 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: are going to love it just as much as I did. 595 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: Thank you so much having me also assignment before I 596 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: finish that. 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