WEBVTT - MAFS Uncut - The low down with Booka Nile

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<v Speaker 1>Mate. I was shook, as I was likely. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not believe what I just seen. I was like, did

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<v Speaker 1>that just happen? What has gone on? Everyone was stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Live Uncut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's good to be here, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>Just My favorite part about the podcast is as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as we do our intro, one of us looks at

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<v Speaker 3>the other and they're like, where do we go?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we do? It's like, this is our one

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<v Speaker 2>hundredth and thirteenth episode and we still do not know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to correct you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're actually up to like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six now, and escales quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's true, So I was only counting season two.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been around for a while, guys. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>our first rodeo, even though it's like it might sound

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<v Speaker 2>like it is exactly So, Okay, I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you guys what we have in store for you today.

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<v Speaker 2>Something we've been talking about on literally every single episode

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<v Speaker 2>for the past X amount of months is married at

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<v Speaker 2>First Sight, and we've been talking about the editing and

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<v Speaker 2>the production and the gas ladding and the toxic relationships

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<v Speaker 2>and what not to do, the absolute dumpster fire. Once again,

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<v Speaker 2>that is Maths. But we do have someone from mass

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast today and they are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>telling us the inns, the outs, the down and the

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<v Speaker 2>dirty of this season that's just passed, and that is Booker.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to sit down with Booker today and

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<v Speaker 2>she was really open and vulnerable and she didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>hold back on some of the things that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>maybe she wouldn't be able to share with us. So

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<v Speaker 2>she's really telling us a lot of the editing and

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<v Speaker 2>producer side of questions, which both Britt and I find

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting coming from a Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>Background, and it actually surprisingly did differ a lot from

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<v Speaker 3>the Bachelor, which I found really interesting. But we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>shy away from what we asked her. We did ask

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<v Speaker 3>the hard questions. We asked about Bryce, we asked about beck,

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<v Speaker 3>we asked about Melissa. So it's a really really interesting chat.

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<v Speaker 3>But Laura, before we do that, we want to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you guys about something that we read this week and

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<v Speaker 3>we just I thought it was absolutely hilarious. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>part of me that's like, well played. Bravo then there's

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<v Speaker 3>another part of me that's like, what the fuck you

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<v Speaker 3>actually crazy? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>There is a man in Japan.

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<v Speaker 3>Who has thirty five plus girlfriends, all simultaneously, purely, purely

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<v Speaker 3>for the fact, not for sex, not for anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>He told every single girlfriend that he had a different birthday,

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<v Speaker 3>So we must have kept a spreadsheet for who he

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<v Speaker 3>told for what birthday, so that he would get really

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<v Speaker 3>expensive gifts from them. And this sounds funny, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>actually just been charged with fraud. Because the man has

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<v Speaker 3>gotten something like twenty thousand dollars worth of gifts out

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<v Speaker 3>of these poor women.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually wild. So what happened was that the women

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<v Speaker 2>had somehow found out we don't know exactly how one

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<v Speaker 2>or two of them or twenty of them had found

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<v Speaker 2>out about the others, but it had come to their

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge that this guy, his name is Takashi Miagawa, he's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine years old, and these women came together and

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<v Speaker 2>started at victims are so to try and uncover if

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<v Speaker 2>there was any more of them that had been targeted

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<v Speaker 2>by him. So in total there was thirty five women.

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<v Speaker 2>They went to the police and he's been criminally charged

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<v Speaker 2>for defrauding these women out of birthday presents, which just

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<v Speaker 2>sounds wild, and I know it sounds funny, but in

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<v Speaker 2>the same sense, I'm actually kind of happy that the

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<v Speaker 2>police took these women seriously and was like, no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really shit bloke and he deserves to be charged

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<v Speaker 2>for something. The police at the moment are kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know what we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Charging him for.

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<v Speaker 2>We think it's fraud. It's all very up in the

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<v Speaker 2>air for what the allegations and what criminal charges he

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<v Speaker 2>may face, but this is it. He's been arrested.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought my ex was bad having eight on the

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<v Speaker 3>go at once, but this guy having thirty five. Can

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<v Speaker 3>you imagine how organized you need to be. You need

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<v Speaker 3>to have spreadsheets, powerpoints, you need to have everything in

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<v Speaker 3>order in your house. Is he bringing them like logistically?

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<v Speaker 2>How does his work?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he bringing them back to his apartment? How does

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<v Speaker 3>he have nothing personal from every single woman's that he's dating?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but also who is even meeting third five women?

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<v Speaker 2>Like all thirty five men, there are not thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>eligible men that I could date in any one time,

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<v Speaker 2>So how is he meeting thirty five women to date?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're having to laugh about it. But people

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<v Speaker 3>like this, they are predators. They're praying on people that

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<v Speaker 3>are vulnerable and praying on people that you know, have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of love to give, and I are looking

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<v Speaker 3>for that. So what this man was doing, which is

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<v Speaker 3>classic behavior, as soon as he met these women, he

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<v Speaker 3>knew that they were all people looking for relationships, so

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<v Speaker 3>he started to promise quite early on marriage and things

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<v Speaker 3>that he was looking for this serious relationship. So he

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<v Speaker 3>was luring them into a false sense of security from

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<v Speaker 3>day one. Then he would just drop that at his

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<v Speaker 3>birthday and that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so right, and I think, like it's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>to sit here and laugh, like the article is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The article is in Daily Mail. We shouldn't promote them

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<v Speaker 2>because we hate them, but anyway, it's in Daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did look at other news sources and there

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<v Speaker 2>are many many other new sites that have reported on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously the news articles of themselves are taking a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a comical stance. But what the guy has

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<v Speaker 2>done is so shit, and we all know anyone who's

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<v Speaker 2>been misled in a relationship does feel like, okay, there

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be some accountability here. And very rarely is

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<v Speaker 2>there ever any accountability or very rarely does anyone ever

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<v Speaker 2>have to own up to the fact that they've lied

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<v Speaker 2>and misled. But the thing that is wild to me

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<v Speaker 2>is that if this happened in Sydney, three quarters of

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<v Speaker 2>the population of men would be down at the Downy

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<v Speaker 2>Center right now. That'd all be charged. The amount of

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<v Speaker 2>men that I've dated who have had multiple women on

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<v Speaker 2>going at the goal at the same time and have

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<v Speaker 2>also made a lot of promises. Yeah, I feel victimized.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I feel like we know what his love languages. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like one hundred gifts. This man does not need

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<v Speaker 3>to unpack. There is no acts of service. Ain't doing

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<v Speaker 3>it for him. He wants a Louis Vuitton Walllet okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let me tell you something that I do want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about something quickly that in this chat today with

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<v Speaker 3>Booker from Married at First Sight, Laura, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how you felt. I got quite nostalgic, and I got

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<v Speaker 3>like all these feelings when she was talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>production and the behind the scenes and the feelings with

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<v Speaker 3>the producers and you know, walking down the aisle, and

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<v Speaker 3>I got taken back to my first night of the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 3>and in all honesty, I've got nothing but good memories.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got really like nostalgic for that time, realizing

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<v Speaker 3>that it really was like this one opportunity, in this

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<v Speaker 3>one crazy experience that we lived and we'll never get

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<v Speaker 3>to live again. Did you get emotional or is it

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<v Speaker 3>just that I'm off the pill again and my hollmost crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm breastfeeding. My hormones are also wild as whack, But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel exactly the same. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I think coming off the back of reality TV show

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<v Speaker 2>is that reality TV shows in its entirety get a

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<v Speaker 2>really bad rap and everyone says, oh my god, never apply,

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<v Speaker 2>never do it. You don't know how you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get edited. But at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 2>look at our lives and I look at so many

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<v Speaker 2>other people who have gone and done reality TV, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is truly a life changing experience. It

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<v Speaker 2>changed my life completely. I have a fiance and two

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<v Speaker 2>children out of going on Like what the hell is

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<v Speaker 2>that I have a whole family because I went on

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<v Speaker 2>a reality TV show. I definitely never would have thought that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my kind of advice to you guys out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to say everybody should go and

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<v Speaker 2>sign up for reality TV. It takes a very specific

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<v Speaker 2>type of person who's.

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<v Speaker 3>A specific type of crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also have to have a really strong sense

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<v Speaker 2>of self and you have to have a really thick skin,

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<v Speaker 2>not an inflated sense of your own ego. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, you know it's a narcissistic thing to go

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<v Speaker 2>on and do reality TV. You just have to be

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<v Speaker 2>confident and comfortable that even if people don't like you,

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<v Speaker 2>your sense of self worth doesn't lie within what other

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<v Speaker 2>people think of you. I think that's a really important thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you do feel confident and you have had

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<v Speaker 2>the thought, maybe I want to apply for reality TV,

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<v Speaker 2>don't just be scared off by what other people say

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<v Speaker 2>about it, because you know, Brita and I are here

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<v Speaker 2>and we can both vouch for the fact that we

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<v Speaker 2>both had really wonderful experiences. And even though at sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of the most challenging things I have

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<v Speaker 2>ever done in my entire life, it fundamentally changed me

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<v Speaker 2>as a person. Like it's pushed me and pulled me

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<v Speaker 2>into different directions in my life that I never thought

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<v Speaker 2>it would. It's made me really front up to some

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<v Speaker 2>things about myself that I don't think I had fully realized,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the actually because it makes you be super emotional

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about your feelings on national TV, and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt so nostalgic listening to Booker speaks. I was like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>that I was a good time in my life, and

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to say that to your best days about

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<v Speaker 2>LAB I meant.

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<v Speaker 3>To say to you when we hung up the phone

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<v Speaker 3>from Booker after the interview, because we interviewed her yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>Guys one day in advance, purely for scheduling, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was the first time in ages I've thought about it,

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't often think of my time back on

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<v Speaker 3>The Bachelor. And I know that sounds crazy, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we are together every day, Laura and I, and we

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<v Speaker 3>do have this podcast and it was a huge part

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<v Speaker 3>of our life, and I know on the podcast over

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<v Speaker 3>the years we have a solid laugh at the Bachelor

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<v Speaker 3>production what goes on behind the scenes. But I honestly

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<v Speaker 3>have nothing bad to say about my experience, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted to reiterate that because Yesterda, I got all

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<v Speaker 3>these feels and I was like, fuck, imagine if I

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<v Speaker 3>went on now I would be I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>I would be edited because I would be crying in

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<v Speaker 3>every single episode. Now I'd be like a whole different human.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're in touch with your feelings. After doing this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast for so long, you are a new and well

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<v Speaker 2>connect did a rounded human.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an emotional train rate.

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<v Speaker 2>This fucking podcast has driven me into the ground of

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<v Speaker 2>broken mows.

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<v Speaker 3>But guys, before we get into that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>do our favorite segment, which is Accidentally Unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted to keep this intro short and sharp because

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<v Speaker 2>we do have a great, great interview for you guys today,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, if you have watched reality TV and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to know a little bit more about the

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<v Speaker 2>production side of things and like how much of it

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<v Speaker 2>is manipulated and scheduled and how much of the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>is forced, and I think this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really eye opening interview for you. But yes, Accidently

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<v Speaker 2>Unfiltered it's where you guys share your most embarrassing stories.

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<v Speaker 2>We read them out, we all have a laugh together

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<v Speaker 2>at you guys. You can go, sir, do you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to go first? Outrop In mind, BRIT's been laughing

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<v Speaker 2>about her accidently unfiltered since the second we sat down.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm so excited to hear this one. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We often read your accidentally unfiltered, and I want you

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<v Speaker 3>guys to know we can't physically respond to all of

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<v Speaker 3>your messages because we do get thousands of them, but

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<v Speaker 3>we do them all. So just know that if we've

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<v Speaker 3>left you on scene, we have seen it. But this

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<v Speaker 3>one I read it and I had to.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we have left you and read, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>ourseholes either. We're trying to get back to everyone. Heause

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<v Speaker 2>read not read. This is why I love Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>I keep leaving all these people on read, but I

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<v Speaker 3>actually rode straight back to this girl and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like fucking dead, like thank you for writing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just really felt for her. It comes from overseas,

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<v Speaker 3>which I also love. She's come all the way from

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<v Speaker 3>Switzerland with this story. Girls, bear with me. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a semi longish one. This happened to me a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago. I met this guy who works for

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite bands at a concert. We stayed

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<v Speaker 3>in touch after that. Fast forward a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 3>He happened to be in Switzerland for work and he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to meet up. Fyi, I'm from Switzerland. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>just fly over for a date.

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<v Speaker 4>Loll.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good girl. Anyway, he really wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 3>this luxurious bar place in Zurich, which I could never

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<v Speaker 3>even afford. But as if I was going to say no,

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<v Speaker 3>I was already super nervous because I hadn't seen him

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<v Speaker 3>in months, and also spending my first date with him

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<v Speaker 3>in a bikini, well it's not really my exact idea

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<v Speaker 3>of a perfect first date. Arriving in Zurich, I realized

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<v Speaker 3>that I had forgot my bikini, so I had to

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<v Speaker 3>buy one at the train station, which, of course you

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<v Speaker 3>can imagine, didn't work out that well.

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<v Speaker 2>The fit was terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>We eventually made it to this really super fancy, luxurious,

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<v Speaker 3>high end spa and it was my time to shine

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<v Speaker 3>in my new bikini.

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<v Speaker 2>In my twenty dollars service station bikini, I've just died.

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<v Speaker 3>So we both got changed and then I walked towards him,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to look really hot. But the floor was so

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<v Speaker 3>freaking slippery, so of course I slipped, and what.

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<v Speaker 2>A fall it was.

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<v Speaker 3>My legs were up in the air, I fell on

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<v Speaker 3>my bump and somehow someone had spilt the water all

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<v Speaker 3>over the floor. I managed to.

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<v Speaker 4>Slide three meters into a sunbed head first. It was

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<v Speaker 4>dead silent after that, and everyone was staring at me.

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<v Speaker 4>I laughed it off, because you know what else can

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<v Speaker 4>a girl do. I got up suggested that we head outside,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, far away from anyone that just witnessed what

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<v Speaker 4>just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So we turned around. I led the way, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make up for it by sauntering outside looking semi hot again.

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<v Speaker 3>I walked straight into the glass door that I hadn't seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, girlfriend, you are a hot mess and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>here for it. Yeah, it went pretty well for me.

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<v Speaker 3>We ended up dating for a couple of months, so

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<v Speaker 3>at least the pain was kind of worth it. I

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<v Speaker 3>just died at this series of unfortunate events, from the

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<v Speaker 3>ill fitting scene, through awkward bikini that you've bought at

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<v Speaker 3>the train station, just liding across the ground head first

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<v Speaker 3>in front of everyone and your date, to then topping

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<v Speaker 3>it off and walking through the door like you can't

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<v Speaker 3>script this shit, You just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why this reminded. This has nothing, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so got nothing to do with it, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>had this moment the other day, we went to the

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<v Speaker 2>Wiggles concert with Marley. Right, Oh, very similar. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>truly like my real life is vastly different to this person.

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<v Speaker 2>In Switzerland, we went to the Wiggles concert and then

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<v Speaker 2>after the Wiggles concert we went to a pub for lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone there had been to the Wiggles concert. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the contrast Wiggles to the pub and once again

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with this story, so I like,

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<v Speaker 2>just like follow my weird brain dump for a story. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the pub, everyone has ordered meals. The meals are

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<v Speaker 2>taking forever, like an hour, it's already been since we ordered.

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<v Speaker 2>But every single person that's there is an adult who

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<v Speaker 2>has a child the same age as Marley, which means

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<v Speaker 2>that it's now run over all of their naptimes, like

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<v Speaker 2>because babies usually go and have their naptimes around twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a rave.

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<v Speaker 3>It was holy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one second where I looked around and there

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<v Speaker 2>was just a lot of screaming happening in this pub.

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<v Speaker 2>And I looked around and there was one kid screaming

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<v Speaker 2>like crying, having a tantrum, laying on the ground. Another

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<v Speaker 2>kid was in her high chair, screaming, throwing her food

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. Another kid had gotten nude and was

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<v Speaker 2>walking around the restaurants like Saturday night. It was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a real, like this is just escalated. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a real kind of like series of unfortunate events. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there's Marley. She just pulled her pants down and

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<v Speaker 2>was standing there trying to under her nappy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, We're all, fuck, this is her life. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a boogie Switzerland. This is just a mom after naptime.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that thing. I love it for me. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so not the story, Okay, my accidentally Unfiltered that I

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<v Speaker 2>have for you guys. Today, we had one that came

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<v Speaker 2>in which was almost identical to the story that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell, and it reminded me of this accidently

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<v Speaker 2>Unfiltered which I had screenshot from like a year ago

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<v Speaker 2>when we first started the podcast, and then I freaking

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<v Speaker 2>lost it, as in I couldn't find the screenshot. Not hysteric.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, wow, I can't want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>this one. I thought you knew anyway, I couldn't find it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I got this new accidently unfiltered story came

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<v Speaker 2>through and it reminded me of this one that I screenshop,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna kind of paraphrase it because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a word for word because they do not

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<v Speaker 2>have it. But here it is. I was going on

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<v Speaker 2>my first Tinder date with a guy who I was really,

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<v Speaker 2>really into. We'd been speaking for weeks. It was that

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<v Speaker 2>time to meet up in real life, so we decided

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<v Speaker 2>that we'd go to a restaurant for a first dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to the restaurant and he's there, and he's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm really flustered, and I'm standing at the sign

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<v Speaker 2>that says wait here to be seated. And so we're

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<v Speaker 2>standing there behind a couple of other couple waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>our turn to go to the table. We're making small

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<v Speaker 2>talk and as they become increasingly nervous, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I do when I'm nervous is that I always

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<v Speaker 2>put on chapstick. She's like, it's a nervous habit that

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<v Speaker 2>I have, but it always makes me feel a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit safer.

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<v Speaker 3>We all love moist lips.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some something about having a well hydrated mouth that

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<v Speaker 2>makes you feel less nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>I chapstick like a hundred times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So here she is. She's like, I put my hand

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<v Speaker 2>into my handbag and I pull out my chapstick. I

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<v Speaker 2>take the lid off it, and I put the chapstick

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<v Speaker 2>on whilst I'm still talking to the guy at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, trying to look cute. Of course, doing it beIN cute.

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<v Speaker 2>My lips still feel a little bit dry after I

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<v Speaker 2>put the chapstick on, so I proceed and put on

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<v Speaker 2>another coat of chapstick. While I'm putting on my second

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<v Speaker 2>coat of chapstick, I realize that the guy is looking

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<v Speaker 2>at me like I've literally just taken a shit in

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<v Speaker 2>a cup. And I look down and I realize it's

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<v Speaker 2>not chapstick at all. I've just put two coats of

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<v Speaker 2>fluo zinc on my lips.

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<v Speaker 3>In the middle of a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me it was like Fluoro green, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Floro green see that you would use if you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go like surfboarding around in the ocean for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>And here she's standing in a nice restaurant with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that she just met with Floro green lipstick on.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I knew how that ended. I love her,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you please tell me you didn't sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>And have the meal. You're like, hey, let's get this takeaway.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have to say, like because you could. You

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<v Speaker 2>would be hysterics doing it with such purpose as well,

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<v Speaker 2>like you meant to do it, Like you're looking him

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<v Speaker 2>in the eye, You're having a conversation. You're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>seduce the guy, like, oh maybe I like you?

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows cute day.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I meant to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you just own it?

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<v Speaker 2>Live in it? You can die on that hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Girlfriend, you don't know what'd been funny, Because this is

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<v Speaker 3>like a trick that I do. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else does this. I'll put like lip balm on,

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<v Speaker 3>like a clear lip balm, but then I will put

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<v Speaker 3>it on my eyebrows as well, because because like it

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<v Speaker 3>actually is a secret little it's a secret squirrel trick

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<v Speaker 3>to like keep your eyebous in place. It gives them

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of sham. Imagine if that was me

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<v Speaker 3>and I had like two green swipes across my eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 3>across my lips.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm laughing at. Like, imagine you living your

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<v Speaker 2>best nineties life. I'm here for that, Okay, The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why that one reminded me of a one that we

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<v Speaker 2>received from ages ago was because someone had just written

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<v Speaker 2>in that they did it on the couch in front

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<v Speaker 2>of their boyfriend, and their boyfriend was like, girl, what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell are you doing? So this isn't the only

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<v Speaker 2>one time this has happened, It's happened to other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Still a rarity. But if you guys have an accidentally

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<v Speaker 2>unfiltered for us, please send it to our dms on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>It's at Life Uncut podcast because we absolutely lived for

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<v Speaker 2>these accidentally unfiltered stories. They make our day. Now it's

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<v Speaker 2>time to get into the conversation with Booker. All right, life.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know that we have been pretty much obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with maths this season and it has provided many of

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<v Speaker 2>the conversations that we've had across the podcast in past

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<v Speaker 2>episodes and today we are super excited to have Booker

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<v Speaker 2>with us to be able to share with you some

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<v Speaker 2>of the inns and the outs of married at first sight. Booker,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks so much for having mecause.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Booker, look, I just want to start. I'm all

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<v Speaker 3>about honesty and transparency here at Life I cut Laura

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<v Speaker 3>is sick for Married at First Sight, shed the drama

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<v Speaker 3>or else every single series. I am going to put

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<v Speaker 3>my hand up and say I have never watched an

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<v Speaker 3>episode of Married at First Sight of any season. But

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<v Speaker 3>what I do do is I follow up the next

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<v Speaker 3>day and I get all the articles, and I do

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<v Speaker 3>all the googling, and I watch the little highlight videos.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've never been able to bring myself to watch

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<v Speaker 3>an entire episode. I just want to be honest before

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<v Speaker 3>we go into the.

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<v Speaker 5>Chat, that's before going on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, that's so so fine that I'd heard of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, sounds like a cool idea, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I should go get married.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was the extent of my knowledge. So like

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<v Speaker 5>the I feelia, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that every episode, I'm like, so we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk and unpack this thing that happened on Maps

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<v Speaker 2>last night, and that has literally brought us so many

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we did a whole episode on gas lighting,

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<v Speaker 2>we had did a whole episode on micro cheating, and

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<v Speaker 2>so many of these different like relationship themes have been

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<v Speaker 2>the byproduct if watching Married at First Sight. So for that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm grateful, and so is Brittany. Even if she hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>seen an episode.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm loving talking about it because this season of Maths,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, holy shit, this is such a toxic lava field, drama, field,

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<v Speaker 3>hectic TV show. I was like, there's so much going

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<v Speaker 3>on and there is so much wrong with it. But

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<v Speaker 3>then you see a lot of the contestants come out,

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<v Speaker 3>and I guess it's like The Bachelor in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>You see a lot of the contestants come out and

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<v Speaker 3>they're still friendly and they're all meeting up, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>something's going on behind the scenes that we're not seen.

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<v Speaker 3>But how have we seen this toxic part? But we

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<v Speaker 3>want it, We do want to unpack that with you

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<v Speaker 3>because we are just as interested as the listeners. But

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<v Speaker 3>before we do Booker, we always get all of our

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<v Speaker 3>guests to bring an accidentally unfiltered. Now this is essentially

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<v Speaker 3>it's just your most embarrassing story or a very embarrassing story.

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<v Speaker 2>We just feel like it breaks the eyes and.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless the people know you a little bit better. So

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<v Speaker 3>do you have an accidentally unfiltered for us today?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I've got a lot. I got a lot feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>One time I was married to this guy and I

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<v Speaker 1>covered the entire apartment in photos of his face and maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of a cool like can you even imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>So imagine it on national TV though, really to escalate things.

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<v Speaker 5>I woke up the next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what did you do? But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, I mean, believe it or not, have also

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<v Speaker 1>done some really uh some embarrassing things before that.

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<v Speaker 5>That was not my first rodeo. It's a tour story.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sitting on this one band's too of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm plastered, and I don't really remember what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but I whipped out wigs. So at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>the night, I'm whipping out these wigs. I'm wearing like

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<v Speaker 1>an orange, like bright orange lilow wig. Apparently what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was I was sitting there and I was just looking

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<v Speaker 1>very very happy and just but silent, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>just smoke bombed and no one knew where I went.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a bed set up in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>our tour van from my band, and I just gone

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<v Speaker 1>and crawled into there and passed out. They found me eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>like my band found me and I just passed out

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<v Speaker 1>in my wig everything and we started, you know, driving

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<v Speaker 1>off to the next city and I don't remember any

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<v Speaker 1>of this, but apparently I just started throwing up because

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<v Speaker 1>you know the motion of the But I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning, sunlight streaming through like the winners of

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<v Speaker 1>the van, and I'm feeling like, like, have I woken up?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I dead? I'm not sure. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>look next to myself and I'm like, oh, there's my wig,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I noticed that it's just like this perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>formed cup that is just holding my vomit in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've thrown up in my old wig, Like hello, am am,

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<v Speaker 1>I a senior citizen. And did I just play like

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<v Speaker 1>wind bing go? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Only shouldn't put the wig back on without knowing it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been a whole next level.

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<v Speaker 1>So we then roll up at the next venue and

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<v Speaker 1>we're playing like this small town and the venue sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually these venues I have great shower facilities and bathrooms

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Oh no, no, no, no, this venue did not.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have vomit in my hair and stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>feeling very seedy and like I want to shower more

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<v Speaker 1>than I've ever wanted anything in my life. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>no there's no shower at this venue. So I go

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<v Speaker 1>and I stroll down to like this gas station which

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<v Speaker 1>is just sort of nearby. So I go and I

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<v Speaker 1>have like this bird bath shower in the disabled bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>of this like crappy gas station in the middle of America,

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<v Speaker 1>and to try to like make myself feel a bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I proceed to try and wash the vomit

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<v Speaker 1>out of my wig in the public.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you just have to admit to feed at this

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<v Speaker 2>point and be like, you know what, WIGGI it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me you didn't pack it back into your

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<v Speaker 2>very full suitcase and take it home right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the week. It looks great. It came up

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<v Speaker 2>really well exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the time I threw up in my

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<v Speaker 1>own wig and then washed myself in the disabled toilets

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<v Speaker 1>of a servo in the middle of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we really love that for you, and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>what you're really doing is living your real, best, most

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<v Speaker 3>authentic life. So congratulations on that. But book, tell us

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about your background in terms of how

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<v Speaker 3>and why did you apply for married at first site?

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<v Speaker 2>How long were you single?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it disastrous? As my background, how did you end

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<v Speaker 3>up in the audition room for married at first site.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, basically I was single for like, I think five

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<v Speaker 1>years at this point, and I had just been traveling

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<v Speaker 1>around the world.

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<v Speaker 5>So even though I was surrounded by dudes literally.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time on these tours, like it'd be me

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<v Speaker 1>and like thirty dudes, there's definitely the opportunity. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're touring, if you don't really want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every time you go on tour, engage in romances and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Unfortunately, as women who are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it in a male dominated scene, you unfortunately you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get that rep and I don't agree with it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have to accept that it's a reality. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a few romances along the years, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>also if they live in Paris, it's like, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not probably going to go much further than this tour.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hadn't met anybody and Corona hit and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, our tour was canceled halfway through when

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<v Speaker 1>we were in Europe, flown home, shove into isolation. We're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there and I was like, what the hell has happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I just like, in my life just pretty much end.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was scrolling through Facebook like devastated, going I'm alone.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have no prospects as far as like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think my career just ended. I have no way of

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<v Speaker 1>even meeting anyone because the whole world has just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gone into lockdown. And so I just filled out

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<v Speaker 1>the application and the next day I got a skypephone call,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, I wasn't actually expecting to

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<v Speaker 1>get contacted, but yeah, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the application process? Like, That's something that I always

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<v Speaker 2>found really interesting with the Batch because the application process

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<v Speaker 2>to go on The Bachelor takes at least forty five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes just to do the online forms, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>several interviews that follows, which are pretty messed up and

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<v Speaker 2>they're really intensive. Yeah, and so what is the application process?

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<v Speaker 2>Also part of that question as well is how much

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<v Speaker 2>to the people who are interviewing you and the casting

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<v Speaker 2>agents really drilled down on what you're looking for in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship and the type of person that you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>The interviews themselves they spanned over like a period of

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<v Speaker 1>like like a long time. So I would have an

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<v Speaker 1>interview like over Skype and stuff, and then after maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a month later, I just get contacted again and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, you're free for another interview. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I applied for Mouths back in like March or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering my wedding was on September twenty four, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a long period of time in between there, so my

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<v Speaker 1>interviews are so spread out. The actual application itself, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't from memory, it didn't take that long, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put a lot of, I guess effort into it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not going to go and invest actual emotional

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<v Speaker 1>energy into this because like sure like it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. It's just it's kind of like how you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, yeah, I'll enter this raffle, but I

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't win type thing.

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<v Speaker 5>So I actually when it said how many raffles do

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<v Speaker 5>you enter?

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<v Speaker 1>I almost never enter raffles, guys, because I never Woulin.

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<v Speaker 3>So you didn't have to do any and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>this might be different because we were in COVID for

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<v Speaker 3>your audition application process, but you didn't have to do

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<v Speaker 3>any like group applications where you were in a room

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<v Speaker 3>with any other people or interacting with other people. None

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I would just like have different people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>call me so it was the same girl the first couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I start getting interviewed by different people over Skype. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, they're like, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get married?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Wow, how do they drill down

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<v Speaker 2>on what you're looking for in partner? Because the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that really sets mass apart is this idea that

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<v Speaker 2>people are expertly matched together to try and create successful relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>And probably also, I think we can or deduct the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that there's probably some people who are matched for drama,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily because they're well matched people. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting through these interviews, how do they actually like,

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<v Speaker 2>what questions are they asking you or how are they

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out whether or not they're matching you with a

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<v Speaker 2>good partner.

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<v Speaker 1>So they asked me questions like who are some of

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<v Speaker 1>your celeb crushes, people that you're really attracted to that

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<v Speaker 1>you would sort of say, are you're ideal man?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, and who is your hall pass?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Ragna Loftbrook not the guy who acts as Ragna loftbook,

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<v Speaker 1>but like him as Ragna Suck Me Up.

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<v Speaker 3>Fam.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it like I've stopped following the storyline because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like getting lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that after you saying what you want

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<v Speaker 3>and what you were looking for and who you're looking for,

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel like you were met with that match

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<v Speaker 3>in Brett to an extent? And I'm saying that, as

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<v Speaker 3>we all know, it didn't work out. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>had your ups and downs. But do you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you were genuinely matched by the experts or do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you were a bit well, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>they probably matched you knowing you weren't perfect for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there were a few things that were

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<v Speaker 1>designed to test me. I had said that I really

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>liked tall guys, and obviously Brett was not tall, Like

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he's exactly the same height as me with no shoes,

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>and then as soon as I put any type of

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<v Speaker 1>footwear on, I'm taller than him. So that for me

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<v Speaker 1>was something that I had to kind of like just

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>like get over, I guess and actually look past.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think otherwise, I think we were supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they matched us really really having quite

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<v Speaker 1>high hopes for us. They never encouraged drama between us.

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>If anything, they tried to really encourage the relationship to work.

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>That's how I felt anyway, aside from Patrick's letter, everything like,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing that I feel like they put on

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 1>us to try and create something explosive. So yeah, I

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>think that we were supposed to match and we did

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>actually really were really compatible straight away, but actually did

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>do a quite a good job in many ways. But

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>there's of course people are really complex and they're intricate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also I guess you can put down a

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<v Speaker 2>list of the things that you think you want in

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a person, but if you don't have great self awareness,

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 2>you might meet someone who has all those things and

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 2>still disregard that person because you're not mentally or physically

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>at a point in your life where you're like ready

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to accept that or ready to be open to those things.

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>As well. It's not a case of putting two people

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<v Speaker 2>in the same room who have all the right components.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>We all know that there's an X factor there with

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 2>relationships that has to exist as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And for your wedding day, when you walk down

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<v Speaker 3>the aisle, how many times do you feel walking down

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<v Speaker 3>the aisle And is it really the first time that

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>you two lay eyes on each other?

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So I walked down the aisle three times that first

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>time that I walked down the aisle was unlike anything

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I've ever experienced as far as like how I was feeling.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are these emotions? I have not

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>had this before. It was really full on. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first time I've ever seen Brett in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, and it was bloody, terrifying and like exhilarating

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So I'm just like reeling from

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>this experience of just meeting this guy. They're like and

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>one more damn, And I was like, clearly and I

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>just see I had to.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 5>I was like, can we just we just hang out

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 5>for a little bit, please, Like.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to hang out with him at that point,

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>but of course I understand they have to do.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 3>That so three times.

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<v Speaker 2>Do think that this is kind of why people start

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>to think that these shows are overly produced, because you

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>do have to sort of re run through scenarios multiple

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 2>times in order for the cameramen to get their angles,

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to get all the right reactions, and to make sure

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that everything's captured on the day. But there's different things

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>with The Bachelor, be cause I kind of compare the

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<v Speaker 2>two in the way that it's filmed. Every single person

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>who walks up and meets the bachelor. Only gets filmed once.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>That only happens one time, and it's a one hit wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>If you fuck that up, you're on your own. You're yeah,

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you're totally on your own.

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Like you get your one shot and then you walk

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<v Speaker 3>off and you kick yourself after.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, for example, like if they haven't captured something,

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<v Speaker 2>do they try and encourage you to go back and

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<v Speaker 2>do it in the exact same way? Or if you

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<v Speaker 2>make a mistake or you do something that you're like, oh,

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 2>on second thoughts, that was a terrible idea. Could you

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<v Speaker 2>be like, no, I'm absolutely not fucking doing that again.

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:03.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to walk down this aisle and not make

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>a dick of myself. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never have asked to like redo something, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not actually sure about that question. They would need to

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<v Speaker 1>like recapture certain moments, like my reaction when I first

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>saw Brett and Brett's reaction when he first saw me.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely the actual reactions we had. They used

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<v Speaker 1>that footage, but there's certain stuff like if they want

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to sort of show that sort of more aerial view,

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>say of me walking down the aisle, you know, they're

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>wide shots things like that, but the close ups and

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>like the actual emotion that people are experiencing, they're probably

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be using that original footage so that it

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>is organic, because that is something that they're really big on,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they don't want relationships and incidents occurring

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>off camera because if they're not able to capture that authenticity.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 5>I feel like they know the audience can see through it.

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>You know what's actually from You know, it's cooked. I

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 3>had to film my dumping twice that and so shit,

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it's so shit. But that's another topic for The Bachelor.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 3>We put our phones in day one. You go into

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 3>a hotel, you're going to lockdown. You lose everything. There's

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>no TV, there's no phone, there's no contact to the

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 3>outside world. There's no newspapers, magazines. You're literally not allowed

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 3>out of their site. I guess Marrimo site's different, isn't it.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you guys have got you more freedom. But

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>do you have your phones the whole time or are

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>they confiscated? Who looks after them?

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Sort of? What's that sort of world?

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Like we have our phones all the time, except we

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>get them taken away just before we head to the

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>dinner party and just before we head to the commitment ceremony. Otherwise,

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I think there was maybe a few certain time.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, there was.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>They also took our phones away just before the parent

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>meeting task because they didn't want us to cheppy chatting

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>with our family and find out that we were going

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to be seeing them at that cinema.

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 5>But that that was pretty fair enough.

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I would have had a complete mental collapse if I

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't have my ability, like the ability to contact my mum.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>If I didn't have the ability to contact my best friends,

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would have been able to cope,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to be honest. So I don't know how you're what

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor set up is like for you.

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I find it interesting because I think that I imagine

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 3>the experiment would go a totally different way if they

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 3>did the same thing as a Bachelor, where they took

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 3>your guys phones and they just had you living together

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>and communicating together and like being forced to you can't

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 3>google each other, you can't find each other's instagrams and

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>like learn about them, you know, from this outside source.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 2>The conversations with phones tend to come up quite a

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 2>bit on maths in that like people from inside the

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>experiment have been texting each other, or there's been like

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>someone from an external source outside being texting someone. If

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>you have full autonomy over your phone, how do the

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>producers know what conversations are going on via text message?

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Then they don't. They tell us the rules, They run

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it through it with us, and they explain to us

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>why it's important not to sort of break those rules.

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>It did seem like whilst the show was actually airing

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 2>on TV that that's when your social media accounts had

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of been taken away from you. Were these moderated

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>by somebody else whilst the show was on TV, so

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>you didn't have access to your social media accounts. So

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that was the first time that Channel nine had removed

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>our abilities to be on our phone.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So we actually did have the option to keep access

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to our Instagram, but in doing that we have to

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.959
<v Speaker 1>just go silent on it. No content. Channel nine wouldn't

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>have it on their Instagram, like as you know their following,

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be included in that, you wouldn't be verified

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff. And it is because of the

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>investment I guess that viewers have in maths and how

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>other like people from the past have had to cop

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>just the most insane, horrific abuse from the public who

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>just really feel that urge to like contact you and

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>slide into those dms and send people things like threats,

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>death threats, the rest of violence to them their families,

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>things like that. It takes the biggest toll on mental

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>health to receive a barrage of that and to feel

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like everyone just hates you and wants you harmed. So

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.479
<v Speaker 1>this year they actually had to make that decision. They

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>had to protect us. They deleted every single DM because

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they'd learned I guess from what they ca that have

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>happened in the past, but they actually had to go

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to that next level. And yeah, so we would get

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>we would write all the captions and choose the photos

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>from stills that they would send us. We would we

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>would go, yeah, no, I look terrible in that, And

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>can you zoom a little bit closer to my face

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>in this photo? Like are you kidding me? Like that

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>is literally just my nose, Like there were some photos

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who chose this? This is just like

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>a really shiny patch on my forehead and like one

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>eyeball in this shot.

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.279
<v Speaker 5>Like, there were so many that one.

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 3>There are so many times I used to get my

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>photos and I'd be like, great, so are these really

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>the only options you've got?

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Is there one other options? I'd rather not post anything.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, sometimes I'm like, oh, you're doing me so dirty here.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so and there we were a few times

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't want anyone in the world

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>to see these ever, so I'm going to post nothing tonight,

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And they be like, Okay, here's some more options. But yeah,

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>So we would have agency in that sense. We would

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to choose from those photos and we would

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>write our own captions. They know that if they were

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>to try to like emulate our different personalities and stuff,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>people would see right through it.

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>But also I guess like at taking that agency, we're

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>taking some agency in like being able to moderate the

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 2>comments that are coming in also means that they're able

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 2>to stop contestants going rogue, which has been a big

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>thing in the past, because you know, the more that

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you're getting this pylon and the more that you're receiving

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>this negativity from the public, well, the more you have

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 2>to consider your edit. And if you feel as a

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>contestant that you've had a poor edit or something has

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 2>been left out in order to really sort of push

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a narrative. That's when contestants in the past have been like, actually, no,

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>fuck this, and they've gotten on their own socials and

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they've taken matters into their own hands. And we saw

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot less of that this year than what we

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 2>did in past years, because in past years it was like, oh,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 2>you'd watch the show and then straight afterwards you'd fire

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>up everyone's Instagram to see what they're unloading. But like,

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>nobody could do that this year.

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>No, But either that is interesting to hear that, because

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I heard that. I think last year Channel nine also

0:35:56.719 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>had access, so they had access to their accounts. Channel

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>nine was doing all the posting on their behalf, but

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:06.359
<v Speaker 1>they could still read and see their accounts. So if

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>they've gone and posted stuff like Channel nine very easily

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>could have deleted it. And we also still have Twitter,

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>we have Facebook, you know, if we can get our

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>story out there and breach our contract if we really

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>want to. They organize press for a lot of us

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 1>as well, go and do radio interviews, which really, if

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>you do the whole I've copped about edit, and that's

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not really what happened, and people have done that. You know,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>there's no way to sense to anybody at the end

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:28.959
<v Speaker 1>of the day.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've been seeing it with Liam and Liam's

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 2>story that was not discussed on the show. I think

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 2>everybody who watched that last dinner party where he didn't

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>hug Georgia hello, it didn't make sense and it really

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 2>painted him as the bad guy, and it really was

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 2>like quite I mean I remember watching it and I

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, you are a piece of work. But

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 2>then it makes sense in the context once you see

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 2>that video that had come out that he's now really

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 2>sort of taken on his social media is to be

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>able to get that out in the world. So I

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>think it does kind of work in two ways that

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 2>producers can create a story and create a narrative by

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>leaving out context.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, omission, not showing the full picture absolutely is going

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to paint a picture. And you know, there was so

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>much in my own relationship. I mean people probably saw

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>cumulatively five minutes of me and Brett throughout the whole

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>season until we were ending.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 5>I feel we'd say some quirky, weird.

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>One liners to each other, and that that was pretty

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 1>much or you'd get so we looked like we were

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>just you know, love and life. But there was of

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 1>course intricacies and problems and fights and all sorts of

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>things that were going on behind the scenes. There's also

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff that happens off camera because the camera crew can't

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 1>be there twenty four to seven to film us all

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 3>We need to ask something pretty big. We have to

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 3>ask the question because Australia has been obsessed with it,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 3>this whole scandalous toxic Bryce debarcle and I'm talking Bryce

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 3>with Melissa and also Bryce with Beck. We want to

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 3>hope what your thoughts off.

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's start with.

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Bryce and Beck first, because bryceon Melissa. A whole other

0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>thing Bryce and Beck was that relationship is do they

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>hate each other as much as we saw? And was

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the fighting as much as we saw? Plus more? Was

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 3>it off screen on screen? Was there any love between them?

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Or what's the gossip?

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like at the start because Okay, during filming

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and stuff we were we're not supposed to talk to

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the other couples. We can talk to them if there's

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like somebody there to sort of monitor the conversation to

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>ensure that there's not plot lines developing off screen, which

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>is pretty much exactly what's gone and happened with Bryce

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and Beck. We know this conversation that occurred at a gym,

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 1>so Bryce is obviously, you know, we've seen from the

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>photo ranking task other things that he had sort of

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>said I guess that he thought she was pretty hot.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>That was very evident, and he's gone and sort of like,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess had this conversation with her in the gym,

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and then they've gone their separate ways and she's gone

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and then disclose that information to her friends in the experiment,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's how it's then turned into a rumor and

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>all of this has happened off camera and that's what's

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to happen. But as well, I kind of

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like in this situation, it kind of worked for

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>what the audience saw because we didn't see the conversation either,

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>so what the audience was getting what we were getting

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>as well. And that was really part of the whole

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 1>thing that drove this, was that there was no way

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of knowing what happened in that, you know, during that

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>gym conversation, even though Bryce kinda did say it is like, yeah,

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>we did talk, but I didn't say I'd buy a

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>gift for my girlfriend.

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, He's like, I mean I kind of

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>implayed I had one, but I'm not going to get

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:30.720
<v Speaker 2>her anything.

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 3>So, So did Bryce have a girlfriend? I mean we've

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 3>seen her, we've seen his people talk about it. But

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 3>like from someone that was in the experiment and in

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 3>those dinner parties, do you think that Bryce had a girlfriend?

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that he did. Yeah, if not a girlfriend,

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>a girl that there was the intent to have the

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>relationship upon leaving. Because okay, number one, what would Beck

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>get out of making up a story like that? And

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>she told me that story off camera in confidence. I

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell anybody, but she had also told or two

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>of the other girls about what had happened too, and

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it took a while for her to actually tell that

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>story to them. She'd also told Jake immediately after the incident,

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>because Jake was the one who came and into the

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>gym as that conversation was happening and was kind of

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>her out from that conversation, so she was like, WHOA,

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>just had the weirdest conversation and then to go and

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>sort of discuss that or to have those types of conversations.

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>The reason she got that she even mentioned it to

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>me was because she'd gone and witnessed how Bryce was

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 1>with Sam, Sam and Coco and you know, accusing him

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of being there for the wrong reasons. If I hear

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that bloody line again, here for the reasons.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 2>We feel you. That's like the number one line on

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>The Bachelor. I copped it the whole time, and I'm like, hey,

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>got two kids now and getting married. Who would have

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:44.919
<v Speaker 2>fucked like that?

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>You guys were here for the babies.

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm still trying to prove a point, guys, like, I'm

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>still in it for the wrong reasons. I want to

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.959
<v Speaker 2>circle back on something though, that you said a little

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>while ago, and that was in regards to obviously they

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 2>don't have cameras on you twenty four to seven. That's

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>not possible. So any conflict that happens, some of it's

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 2>missed or and some of it they will get on camera.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 2>How is it possible then, or like, how do are

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>they able to circle back to conflict or how do

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 2>they make sure that like they are getting a full

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>picture of a relationship. How do the production make sure

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're able to capture that or you know, do

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 2>they ever make you sit down and be like, hey,

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 2>have that conversation again, but on camera.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>So no, if we would have a conflict, we would

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>basically what I would do is I would contact our

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>producer and I'd be like, yo, we had a bit

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of a bit of a bloody spat last night. After

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a few warns, then basically we would just go and

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>we'd sit and talk about the conflict with each other,

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and then we do that on camera. We wouldn't ever

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like go and replay or like, you know, roleplay. I

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think I would be able to do that, to

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I don't know if that's so.

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 3>You don't you don't you don't stop in the middle

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 3>of the fight and call them, We'll be like you

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>get here now.

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 2>There's some really fucking good content going down on Level six,

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Apartment twenty four.

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Quickly, quickly, But there are obviously things that you're not seeing,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>which makes certain situations seem a little bit strange, like wow,

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.879
<v Speaker 1>book has really taken that letter at heart. Oh my god, like.

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.479
<v Speaker 2>A really down woman.

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>But that was like more going on and other things

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that had happened that really, because otherwise I would have

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>been like probably a little bit more understanding or like

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have listened to Britain and been like, yeah,

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess Patrick has maybe formulated this from like in

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's gone and taken his own approach and

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>his own this is his understanding of what you've said,

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's just interpreted this wrong. I would have been

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>more open to believing that.

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>I think that was actually My next question was in

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 2>regards to this letter, which seemed to be the undoing

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of you guys for starters. I think it's a very

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>unique experiment to be told, how about you write all

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the things that's wrong with your friend's relationship that's only

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>going to end in fucking desires never started or to.

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Do that though, we're told to write constructively, give feedback,

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>so pros cons what works, what doesn't work, encourage and

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>then encourage them to like, here's some tasks that might

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>help you guys to to become closer.

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And however, Patrick was like, so this is my opportunity

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to put Booker on blust here we go number one.

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 2>So with that whole like what we saw play out

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 2>in this on TV, what actually happened in regards to

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>that letter and how did that all unfold.

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, basically we were given that task.

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>We had gone and we wrote like Jason and Alana's

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was very constructive. It was like, we know,

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>we can see that these are your strengths, these are

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 1>some things you want to work on, and here's how

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you might be able to do that, and here's some

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>tasks that will bring you closer together. And god damn it,

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>it did bring them closer together. And actually bloody work.

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Patrick, God bless that guy. Like he just he

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>was angry at me though he was really pissed. He

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 1>did not like me at all. We had hardly ever

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>really spoken much at all, you know, other than just

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, your small talk at the dinner party, like

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>pleasantries and stuff. But he threatened him. They really connected

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and they had a relationship which again off screen hangouts

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>we had. So basically what happened is Brett would go

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.879
<v Speaker 1>to Patrick's how Patrick's Patrick's little apartment which was next

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>door to ours, and they would hang out and that

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 1>he would vent. And of course you can venting to

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>your mates about your relationship and unpacking it with your mates.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>That is your right to do and I'm so fine

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>with that. However, what was said to Patrick was Yeah.

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Patrick actually later on in an interview that I saw

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Channel nine website was He's like, well, look, Brett,

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 1>it never said anything good about the relationship ever, like,

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>not not one positive comment was made about and about

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>who she was and or anything like the stuff he said,

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he actually said very bad.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 5>The things he had heard from Brett.

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Were And you know what it's like when you've got

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 1>a mate and you bloody love your mate and they're like, yeah,

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 1>so my partner did this, and you're like they did what?

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And you get because you protective and you care about

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>them and you believe that they deserve better. So Patrick,

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>he was bloody riled up. He was ready to go,

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>is like, you know, she's got to stop doing X,

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Y and Z. She's got to stop talking about how

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>good her band is. She's got to stop talking about

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>these things.

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna say? Hey, you like, it's just

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 2>a stupid thing. I mean, it's stop being proud of

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 2>yourself right now.

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 3>But it's like, I mean, it's banded as shit said that.

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I never said my band's God, I've never said it.

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 2>But even if you had said it, you're allowed to

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 2>be proud of something that's your own achievement. Like it's

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 2>okay for you to say your band is good, the

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 2>same as it's okay for me to say, you know what,

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that the jewelry I make is good. Like

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to be proud of the stuff that you

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>do when you put out into the world. Otherwise, like

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>what what why are you doing it for? It's not

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 2>even that.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 3>It's also if you are speaking, if someone is saying,

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 3>tell me about yourself, that's what you're going to talk

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 3>about because that is what you consumes your life and

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 3>that is who you are. You're not going to talk

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 3>about what you had for breakfast ten weeks ago that

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 3>you had Coco Pops one day, You're going to be like, cool,

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 3>ninety five percent of my time is consumed by a

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 3>band that I'm in, Like, that's what you're going to

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:46.399
<v Speaker 3>talk about that.

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>We actually didn't talk about my band very much at all,

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and at that point in experiment, we hadn't discussed my

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>band or anything to do with my band or my

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>music career for a number of weeks because I realized

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that it was not even it wasn't something that he

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>was very interested in hearing about, and I'd actually voiced

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to him that I felt like he was quite that

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>he would glaze over a bit. He wasn't.

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 5>He didn't want to hear it, basically.

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'd learned to actually just not talk about it

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>because it was just not a topics and it was

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>not a conversation that we were both able to contribute to.

0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I was really pissed off about that

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>comment in particular.

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well, I think you totally covered something just then,

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>which is like a greater conversation and something that we

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.239
<v Speaker 2>have spoken about before on Ask Guncut episodes, and that

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 2>is this idea that it's okay to bitch to your

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 2>friends about your partner. Sometimes you need to do that,

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you need to vent, but you have to be

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 2>very consciously aware that when you do that, you are

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 2>painting a picture of who your partner is to your friends.

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 2>And just like you said, if you're never saying something good,

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.320
<v Speaker 2>if you're only going to your friends to offload and

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 2>all the things that you're unhappy about, then that's a

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 2>very one sided view and you are literally giving them

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the tools to hate your partner. And so if you

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>want the relationship to work, if you want their support.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 2>If you want your partner and your friends to be

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 2>friends as well, you can't always be going in bad

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 2>mouthing your partner.

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 3>I think what it is to it, and it's it's

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 3>human nature. We all do it. When things are really

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 3>great in your relationship, you don't usually feel the need

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 3>to go to your friends, sit down for coffee and

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 3>be like, I just need to tell you things are

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 3>so good. You don't so happy, well, you don't feel

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>that best, yeah, And I mean I do that to

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Laura at the moment, but I'm in the honeymoon, Phace,

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 3>but you don't feel that neat.

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>But when things when things.

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 2>A sad, fuck anything up as well. Let's be real.

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 3>But it's when things are bad that's when you go

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:33.799
<v Speaker 3>to your friends, and it's when you feel like you

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 3>want to offload, because it's when you feel like you

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 3>want advice or you want a event. So I feel

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 3>like it's human nature to be like more inclined to

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 3>say this is the shit that's going on in my relationship.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Even if things are good, you don't feel like you

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 3>want to tell them that, and then all of a

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 3>sudden it's snowballs. Then they get this impression that this

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 3>person is just a horrible person, and then that's all

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>they see. So Laura and I whenever we have a

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 3>vent about our partners, which like you know, we have

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 3>a little event occasionally when we get frustrated, but then

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 3>we always make sure to be like, Buddy's actual really

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 3>cute and did this and this and this.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 2>So after that letter, that was what was the catalyst

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.760
<v Speaker 2>for the very entertaining breat dinner that we all saw,

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the dinner that was all about Brett. Now my question

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Courses of Bread, was this entirely your idea? Well, did

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you wake up that morning and go, do you know what,

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 2>here's a big fuck you. I'm going to do a

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 2>bretat dinner And like, of course it's was done as

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a joke, but there was obviously some intent there as well,

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 2>because you're hurting so you want to like make a point.

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But where are you encouraged to do this? When you

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.760
<v Speaker 2>went to production you were like, hey, this is my idea.

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Were they like your fucking cooked booker, you've lost it?

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Or were they like that is a great idea. No,

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>They're like that.

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 3>For sure, they love this shit.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 1>You will never be So I told my producer what

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. So he's like, so, what do

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 1>you want to do for this dinner? And like I

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.439
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe that I was being asked what I wanted

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>to do for the dinner. I was like, I'm doing

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>this dinner? Are you kidding? I don't what I do

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>not feel into inclined to put a romantic feast on

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and pamper and praise the guy who's been trashed talking

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>me to other people in this experiment, like I really

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want ye're not feeling too full of love right

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 1>now personally. And I sat on it and I was like,

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I've got to make it all about Bretty. So I

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know, like I just had this idea.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm going to just print out some

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>multiple copies of this. I'm gonna go to office works

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.359
<v Speaker 1>and just get heaps of copies and put it all

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, oh why, And I'm like, oh,

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>like that's a terrible about Brett, you know, So I'm

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it about Brett. And he was like, you're

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 1>sure that might not be taken the wrong way. And

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I don't know, but I'm doing it,

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and I really want to do it.

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, the Bachelor producers would have been rubbing

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 3>their hands together. They love this.

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I was to be the golden couple.

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 5>They didn't want that going down. Yeah I work, so

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 5>they were like, oh shit, shit's a bruin here.

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that's it, right, Like I mean, and mass

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 2>now notoriously is getting a bad rap for couples not

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 2>working out right because like the statistically they have more couples,

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>they statistically should have more successful relationships. However, doesn't seem

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>to be the case. So I do feel like now

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>they are casting couples, at least a few couples that

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 2>they really genuinely want to work. And from watching it,

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I really thought that you and Brett were one of

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 2>those couples that they really were like, fuck, it's.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Going to shit a board mission and they were trying

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 3>to fix.

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:19.919
<v Speaker 2>It for you.

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 1>They never encouraged any drama with us though they really

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 1>did want us to work, I think, and they did.

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeah, they do.

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Like Laura said, they need the success couples. They don't

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 3>want everyone to work because that's the show. They want

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 3>this disaster love a film, toxic TV show. But then

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 3>they need like one or two to have the happy

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 3>ending they need.

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 2>They need some successful couples to encourage people in next

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 2>season to sign up. You know, if there's this terrible

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 2>track record every sign up of every year, but they

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 2>won't get the people who are signed up with an

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>authentic want. You know, you do see these like you

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>see jewels and cam and you do see some successful

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 2>couples come out of it, and you're like, Okay, for

0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 2>all the people that didn't work for there is somebody's

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 2>life who was changed by this experiment. And maybe I

0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 2>could be that somebody. You know, we all want to

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 2>be exception in this process.

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, And I think they matched quite a few

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>people together this season that really did have on paper,

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I could see why they were matched.

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 3>At work, we see that the dinner parties are always disaster.

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:16.240
<v Speaker 3>Feel like there's always some drama going on, there's always

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.480
<v Speaker 3>some big fight. How much of that is sort of

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 3>organic and natural and free flowing and how much is

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 3>a prodded and pushed and a little bit manipulated by

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 3>the producers.

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.320
<v Speaker 1>My experience at the dinner party is we would walk

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in and then it was like you'd almost forget that

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>there was any cameras or producers there, like unless you

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>need it to pee, you know, you had to alert

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.359
<v Speaker 1>one of the producers that you actually needed to get

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.879
<v Speaker 1>up and go to the toilet. Yeah, that was when

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, oh, yeah, there's like a bloody

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>room full of people around us, like with cameras, Like

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of cameras, there's lots of producers. But they

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 1>just let us sit there and go to town on

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>each other. Basically. The only time I've ever seen them

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>intervene is when when stuff is getting like maybe a

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>bit too sort of hated it or whatever, or like

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>when when Bryce threw water on Sam like that. You know,

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>they had to obviously just make sure that everyone was

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:11.239
<v Speaker 1>okay after that. But other than that, yeah, they've never

0:52:11.280 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>been like, guys, you're boring us like ever. In fact,

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>we often got to go home after a couple of hours.

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, that wasn't very long, and they're like, yeah,

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 1>we don't need any more content, like we've got.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's so interesting you say that, because like it's

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the complete opposite on The Bachelor, And I know that

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 2>this is one of the things that people find interesting

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.760
<v Speaker 2>about how the mechanics of the shows work. But for example,

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 2>with the cop tap Artis and The Bachelor, if where

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the girls are sitting around and not creating enough drama,

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 2>if they're not getting the content that they want, the

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 2>producers will be like, hey, Amy, come here, and then

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>they'll be like, you need to go and ask Stephanie

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>this question, or you need to go and do this

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>to create the conversations and create the drama. So I

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 2>had always assumed that, you know, some of the little

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 2>like Patrick calling out a question from across the table

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:58.760
<v Speaker 2>could have been yeah, but it could have been encouraged

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 2>by a producer, as in, like, you know, they might

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 2>know their people who are happy to do it and

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 2>can be kind of persuaded a little bit more. Then

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:07.839
<v Speaker 2>all they have to do is say, hey, we think

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 2>you should ask this question, and then watch it all

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>fucking catch on fire. That's definitely what happens.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 5>Maybe it might have.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't privy to it.

0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.400
<v Speaker 3>If it did, though, it was a moment on Bachelor

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 3>in Paradise that they literally it was. There was no

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.240
<v Speaker 3>subtlety to it. We were like leaning around the pool,

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.359
<v Speaker 3>and I mean, to be fair, they're filming a show

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>we're on an island.

0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 2>They literally came.

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Up to us and they were like, get in the

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 3>pool everyone now, and we're like, we don't want to.

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 3>They're like, you're boring as fuck getting the pool and

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 3>do something.

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 4>So like jump in the pool, but they're going fun

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, far out.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I just want to lay you. It's some bag. I

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 2>don't want to. I don't want to be the thing

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 2>with Bachelor in Paradise though, is it's everyone's second rodeo,

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 2>so everyone's cottoned onto all of their techniques and everything,

0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and so people are it's harder to not I wouldn't

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.319
<v Speaker 2>say the manipulate is the right word, because you're not

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 2>being manipulated, but it's harder to coake someone or encourage

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.120
<v Speaker 2>someone to do something because you know, like we.

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>All had that I wouldn't do or otherwise.

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Or that totally exactly, and people kind of caught onto like, oh,

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:08.839
<v Speaker 2>I can see how that can be edited together. One

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:10.839
<v Speaker 2>of the big questions I have, and it's something that's

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone was shocked by, and you guys all

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 2>very shocked by it too, was the video that came

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:18.800
<v Speaker 2>out at the very last meet about Beck and the

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Prye and the brother and the kids.

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>That just wow, wow, Yeah, And I've seen a lot

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of people online discussing that, so go on.

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Did anybody have any idea that this was going on?

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Or was this something that you guys were as shocked

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:35.839
<v Speaker 2>about as what we were watching it?

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:41.799
<v Speaker 1>As the viewer mate, I was shook if I was like,

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I did not believe what I had just seen. I

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, did that just happen? Am I having a

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>fever dream?

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>What has gone on? If they put acid in our

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:51.840
<v Speaker 1>bloody drinks earlier?

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 5>Is this real?

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I could not.

0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 5>I could not believe it.

0:54:55.120 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Everyone was stunned, genuinely, legitimately so stunned. In fact, the

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>whole Bloody Night had just been bombshell after bombshell because

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you guys have seen that footage of Coco and Cam

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 1>throughout the show. We didn't have any idea. That's why

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Patrick's like that, well, guys like, none of us knew.

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>None of us had any idea, And then that video

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with Bryce's mates, and then Buddy the Beck video, Like

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the night, I was like, I

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 1>need a hug, and I.

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Need like, I need a counselor and a therapy session,

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>and you're all fucking bad people, all of you.

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 5>We were all so stunned the.

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Fact that that footage had by chance been recorded on

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>on the diary cam.

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, Like.

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 3>You know that that producer that found that just got

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 3>a huge promotion.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 5>How bored would they have been?

0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Like fingo. I had to watch it like three times.

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Like the first time I was like too busy looking

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 2>at the manhole that I didn't actually see what happened.

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 2>And the second time I was like, wait, what are

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you guys talking about? I was like, oh, I was like,

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 2>this is is very very entertaining. But one of the

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:02.360
<v Speaker 2>things I mean, and this is a conversation we've had

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot on this podcast as well, is in regards

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to the experts, what role do they actually play and

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>how much time do you actually spend with them or

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 2>speak to them. Do you actually meet them before you

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 2>even go on the show or is it just something

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that's very intermittent. I'm really interested in the role that

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 2>they play and how much contact you have with them.

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Very very little contact. So yeah, basically I had met John.

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I'd done like a pre interview, like filmed interview with

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.919
<v Speaker 1>him where he was, you know, asking me questions, and

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was sort of talking about my love

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 1>life and you know, basically why I was there and stuff.

0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>They would air little bits and pieces from people's interviews

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that they'd had pre getting married. I'd met John, I'd

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:49.399
<v Speaker 1>met Alessandra and mel when they came to the Hens night,

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, hell it is. But otherwise, Yeah,

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:54.919
<v Speaker 1>that first argument in the ceremony was the first time

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that we'd sort of sat down with them in that capacity,

0:56:57.680 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and then we would spend anywhere between half an hour

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to an hour sitting on the couch unpacking our relationship.

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's one of the really interesting things though,

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that part of the storyline is that they give this

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 2>perception that you're chosen by these people, by these three

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 2>people that are on the couch, that they specifically choose you.

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>And like, I mean, the show's been going on long

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 2>enough now that as a viewer, we all know that

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 2>that's not the case. Like I mean, it's a it's

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a nice it's a nice narrative, and it kind of

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>goes along the storyline, But I don't think anybody actually

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.480
<v Speaker 2>watches the show now and goes, oh, yes, the three

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 2>of them sat down, went through all those photos and

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 2>hand picked these people. I think it's interesting that they

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 2>keep trying to like hold on to that narrative, whereas

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I do enjoy the commentary that they provide at dinner

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 2>parties and the commentary that they provide on the couch.

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>To really unpack it though at that night, because you

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>see them having you see them around and stuff.

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 3>We want to ask you about Bryce and Melissa because

0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 3>to Australia they're now a successful relationship. They are coming

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 3>out and saying they're very happy and very together, very

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 3>in love, talking about a real wedding. I actually heard

0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 3>them say the other day they're talking about their own

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 3>reality show, which I will never watch. But what are

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 3>your honest thoughts on that relationship? Because to us the viewer,

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.880
<v Speaker 3>no one could figure out why on earth Melissa would

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 3>possibly stay with him and stick up for him. And essentially,

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>even after everything has come out, I think at the time,

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 3>everyone was like, Okay, cool, she's been blindsided in the experiment.

0:58:18.160 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 3>When it's over and when she can see it from

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 3>an outside perspective, she'll understand, she'll leave him. But instead

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:26.920
<v Speaker 3>her love, you know, increased tenfold and.

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 2>We can't galvanize them.

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 3>We just can't understand it.

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>We would hear about these things that had happened behind

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>closed doors, like that we hadn't been witnessed to, Like

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>we'd hear it on the commitments, ceremonic ouch and at

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 1>dinner parties like ranking Melissa forth, like we weren't there

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to witness that. But also there was all this stuff

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that I personally was not aware of that had gone on,

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 1>so like comments about she's not ugly, you're not my type,

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. We would hear bits and pieces

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of how that went down, but seeing it was something

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>completely different and actually seeing how it was said, however,

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>with all of the room that were flying around. So

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<v Speaker 1>first Beck says this story, then Samata joins us for

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<v Speaker 1>Girls Night, and that same story from a completely different person,

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<v Speaker 1>and she also, I will absolutely like stand by this.

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>She was someone who really followed those rules. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get any of our numbers when she left the show,

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have a way to contact any of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and she actually didn't know that this room even existed

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<v Speaker 1>within the show. So she came in after all of

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<v Speaker 1>that time and she hadn't spoken to any of us

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, she comes in with thinking she's got a

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<v Speaker 1>loaded gun when really like it's old news, almost like

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that she's delivering. So yeah, I really thought at that

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<v Speaker 1>point that maybe Melissa would walk away, But then she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sow it and that was obviously quite bamboozling and

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, well, it just.

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<v Speaker 3>Came from too many sources in the end, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when there was that footage of the friends

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't know they were being recorded, And for anyone

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't know how this works, they would have had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea that there were people still listening to their conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>They wouldn't know there were cameras still around, because you're

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<v Speaker 3>not open to that world that you were thrown into,

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<v Speaker 3>a world that you have no idea about. They would

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<v Speaker 3>have thought that were having a conversation between each other

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<v Speaker 3>that no one could hear.

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<v Speaker 1>That was incredibly authentic, that moment with his friends, even

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<v Speaker 1>though you know he's saying that it was set up

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What advice would you have for somebody who's thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>doing Maths next year or wants to apply for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there's really a lot of Maths cast

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<v Speaker 1>members have said like no, I would never do it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, don't bloody do it, and they're really quiet

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<v Speaker 1>adamant about that. I found maths to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest things I've ever done in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>But that being said, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad I did it and I would do it again

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<v Speaker 1>because even though it was so challenging and difficult at times,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like what I gained from doing that and

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<v Speaker 1>going through that, and also the relationships that I made,

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<v Speaker 1>the friendships I formed, I feel like it was worth it. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not for the faint hearted. Don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't feel secure in who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really unfortunate as well, but it is. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>part of the package. Unfortunately still in this day and age.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's the same for reality TV across

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<v Speaker 3>the board. You have to have the thickest skin. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is this doesn't matter if it's Married at First

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<v Speaker 3>Sight or The Bachelor, it doesn't matter if it's Survivor

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<v Speaker 3>or something that's not even love based. There are just

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<v Speaker 3>these people out there, these trolls that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>come for you. And you also don't know what your

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<v Speaker 3>edit is going to be because we get a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of it, a lot of questions too, Should I go

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<v Speaker 3>on the Bachelor? Should I apply for it? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent the best experience of my life, But

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<v Speaker 3>there were moments I was like, what have I done?

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<v Speaker 3>Purely because of the people out there that it is horrible?

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<v Speaker 3>So that is something I think everyone needs to know.

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<v Speaker 3>For any reality show that they're going to pear on,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be ready for that. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>be ready for something that is so far from anything

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<v Speaker 3>you have ever experienced. And even though people can tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>you just don't know until you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so like honestly and you obviously understand what it

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<v Speaker 1>is like. There was nothing I could have done mentally,

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally whatever to prep myself. I could have spoken to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys and heard this from you guys, but nap,

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually thought that I would have this really

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<v Speaker 1>thick skin because I've had to deal with trolls and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I'm the only chick in an or

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<v Speaker 1>dude metal scene, had to like cop trolls and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>For years.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going to be fine and that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, uniquely had this advantage that

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be able to deal with it

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<v Speaker 1>better than other people.

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<v Speaker 5>Nope, I was wrong. Is there another level?

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that someone said to me when I was

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the back of the show, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>every single person can have a social media account, and

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<v Speaker 2>every single person can have multiple social media accounts. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you were crossing the street and somebody started calling

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<v Speaker 2>out horrible things to you on the street, a random person,

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<v Speaker 2>you would look at them and go, mate, you're fucking crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd cross the street and you'd walk away and

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<v Speaker 2>you say to your friends, oh my god, this crazy

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<v Speaker 2>person said some horrible things to me on the street today.

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<v Speaker 2>What are absolute weirdo. But because it comes under the

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<v Speaker 2>cloak of social media, these people say horrible things to

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<v Speaker 2>us and you take it and you go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>why would somebody say those things to me? But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you wouldn't care what that crazy person on the

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<v Speaker 2>street says, So don't care about what that crazy person

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<v Speaker 2>online says. And you can choose to live in this world,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the real world, or you can choose to

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<v Speaker 2>live in the social media world. It's the characterization that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. And people become so invested and even though

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<v Speaker 2>people know it's reality TV, and even though every season

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<v Speaker 2>we have the same conversation about, hey, actually they're real people,

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<v Speaker 2>there is an element of it that doesn't feel real,

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<v Speaker 2>and there is an element of it that's entertainment, and

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<v Speaker 2>there is an element of it where people go, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that character, and so I can say what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, and they're not going to be that

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<v Speaker 2>hurt because they know what they've signed up for. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is the one thing that I absolutely cannot say enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody really knows what they've signed up for unless you've

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<v Speaker 2>done it once. You have no idea what you're in for,

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<v Speaker 2>and you aren't asking for it by signing up for it,

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<v Speaker 2>because you just don't fucking know. You just don't know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Threats and like no, of course, not like abuse and

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<v Speaker 1>like the to the highest degree of vile, degragating commentary

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<v Speaker 1>on your character or your family members. People even went

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<v Speaker 1>after my parents a little bit as well, because, like

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<v Speaker 1>my beautiful father said, you know, like explore the depth

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<v Speaker 1>of each other and have those conversations. People were hanging

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<v Speaker 1>shit on him, which horrified me because my parents only

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<v Speaker 1>went on and exposed themselves like that because they love me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted to be supportive parents, and so for

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<v Speaker 1>them to even like cop stuff, I was like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>Even know it's mind boggling. I receive more death threats

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<v Speaker 3>and discussing messages now than I ever have before since

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<v Speaker 3>I started dating my partner. He's a tennis player. Every

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<v Speaker 3>single week, I so like, last night I received a

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<v Speaker 3>message if he loses a match, I will receive fifty

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<v Speaker 3>messages saying last night I got one saying come to

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<v Speaker 3>Turkey so I can slit you open like a pig

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<v Speaker 3>and hang you in my backyard. And now I've received

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<v Speaker 3>more from being in that athlete's world than any like

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<v Speaker 3>it's so much worse than reality TV. I'm actually gobsmacked.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm his just his partner. It's like they want

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<v Speaker 3>to do this to me and my family because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>his partner and he lost one match. It is mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's just really no limit to it. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>category anymore, there's no limit. There are just so many.

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<v Speaker 3>And I actually wrote back to that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan was like, why are you writing?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you because I never do but this person,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you want to slip me open and

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<v Speaker 3>my family, and he put like a spelling mistake in it,

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<v Speaker 3>So I just wrote back something funny about the spelling mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That shocks me to hear that you can get that

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<v Speaker 1>ugly and that violent hurt that guy, like my god,

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<v Speaker 1>to hate somebody so badly that you would go and

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<v Speaker 1>say something like that, I'm sorry that you have received

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<v Speaker 1>that like and I hope that you know it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>penetrate at all, and you're just like, wow, what has

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<v Speaker 1>gone on for these people?

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<v Speaker 2>Were the songs that you wrote about Brett the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that the media were talking about? Was it my bread

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<v Speaker 2>in mind?

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<v Speaker 5>That was okay? So that song beat Me Up Soft Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned what software was when I was on the

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<v Speaker 1>show because one of my friends had said to me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're describing with you know, your relationship is soft

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<v Speaker 1>boy behavior, and I was like, like, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>call men's soft that's really problematic. And then I actually

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<v Speaker 1>googled it and I was like, oh, okay, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was not about Brett. That song was about my new

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<v Speaker 1>found excitement over this soft boyf Instagram called beam Me

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<v Speaker 1>Up Soft Boy, which I was like, I'm really into

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<v Speaker 1>it and the messages on there are hilarious. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>like over half a million followers and stuff. I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to release another song called faked It, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>the choruses do that thing you do where you lie

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<v Speaker 1>right to my face because I lied to all of

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<v Speaker 1>those times. I faked it, which is basically saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>suck in bed, baby, It's not about ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like contact Brett about like the soft Boy song, because

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<v Speaker 1>he got asked about it on a radio interview and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, mate, it's not about you. Was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, And then I've had to like pre warn

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<v Speaker 1>him that people might actually think that this next one's

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<v Speaker 1>about him, and like, I don't want people to be like, Haha,

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<v Speaker 1>Brett sucks in bed or an asshole for like, for

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<v Speaker 1>this song, people are going to assume my stuff's about Brett. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a guy that I was hooking up with

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<v Speaker 1>when I got back home who was like a flame

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<v Speaker 1>from before. We'd only ever hooked up like a few

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<v Speaker 1>times before the show, and then you know, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>month or so after returning, I saw him and we

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<v Speaker 1>started hanging out again.

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<v Speaker 3>And basically, he sucks in bed makes a better headline anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is. It's like, Book great, this song

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<v Speaker 3>about Brett is better than Book has moved on and

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<v Speaker 3>is just writing some music based on some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>experience that she had at some point in a life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, I wouldn't read that article.

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<v Speaker 5>Pays homage to Instagram page like, no one's.

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<v Speaker 3>Clicking on that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're going to put all your details in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes for this episode as well. But Booker, before

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<v Speaker 2>we do let you go, we do one thing with

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<v Speaker 2>every guest that we haven't It's how we end every

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<v Speaker 2>single episode and it's called Our Suck and our Suite.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically what it is is we get you to

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<v Speaker 2>tell us what was your suck from the week and

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<v Speaker 2>what was your sweet from the week. And it can

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<v Speaker 2>be anything. It can be the most insignificant suck if

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<v Speaker 2>you've had a great week, or it could be something

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<v Speaker 2>really shitty, or it could be something really great. We've

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<v Speaker 2>just rung this on you. So Baby, we'll go first,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can have a two second think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your okay? All right, rut, I'll go first,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, My suck for this week is my week's

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty great. I haven't really had a suck. The

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<v Speaker 2>only suck I have and every week all of my

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<v Speaker 2>suck and sweets are always kid related because like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>My suck is that Molly had a mosquito bite on

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<v Speaker 2>her head that she's now out scratched into a massive

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<v Speaker 2>hole and she looks like she's got some sort of disease.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's fine, but it's not nice taking your kid

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<v Speaker 2>outside the house when they look like there's something wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with them and people look at you like, oh, that

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<v Speaker 2>looks nasty. So that's my suck. Yeah, like, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing to your child? She's not neglected and she's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>she just can't stop scratching it. My sweet is that

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Wiggles concert yesterday. It was fucking great,

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<v Speaker 2>like around since I was like the Weekle's been around

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty years. I was fine back all right, but

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<v Speaker 2>no one of the most.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, you have a big crush on Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony has been the one that's been there since I

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<v Speaker 2>was five, So yeah, look, he was actually better in

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<v Speaker 2>real life. I'm down with that, guys. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>turning into Wiggles podcast. Okay, So that was my second sweet, Brittany,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your suck?

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<v Speaker 3>And sweet it's supposed to be short and spicy. My

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<v Speaker 3>suck is that I am supposed to be heading to

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<v Speaker 3>Perth this week, but they've gone into lockdown, so that's

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<v Speaker 3>really awesome for me. Hopefully they come out of a

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<v Speaker 3>lockdown so I can still go and have a little holiday.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in Perth, so oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in lockdown right now. I my sock. You can

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<v Speaker 2>bring that well for everybody who is in Perth, we're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of you, and Booker, we're thinking of you. That

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<v Speaker 2>fucking sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So my sweet is that I went away for

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<v Speaker 3>a few days and I went did some adventuring. I

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<v Speaker 3>went surfing, I got some sunshine, I went on a

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<v Speaker 3>quad bike. So I had a really good few days

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<v Speaker 3>with my sister, so that I'm going to share that

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<v Speaker 3>all next week anyway, guys, because I did have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fun and I've had a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was my sweet. So Booker hit us you're

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<v Speaker 3>in lockdown.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that's my suck basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we went to lockdown on Friday, like midnight Saturday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>So that sucks because I had some pretty cuel plans

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<v Speaker 1>for this weekend. And Beth from the show you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who was married to Dan Andrews for those

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<v Speaker 1>who can't remember that far back. She's moving away to

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales to be a psychologist. So yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>alspos to have her going away drinks this weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't happy to do that, which sucks. I just

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<v Speaker 1>really hope she doesn't leave without being able to say

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<v Speaker 1>a bote. And then my suite is that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>talks with a major record label for my little band

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Friends too, because they want to basically give us

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money and help to release the song

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<v Speaker 1>Faked It, which is about faking orgasms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't do that, guys, it's a terrible idea. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>set people up for a terrible sex next time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's awesome, congrats. We hope that that takes off here.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's really exciting for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Booker, what's your Instagram handle? Where can people go

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<v Speaker 3>and find you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just my name? It's book a Nile, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Also for anybody who wants to find your music, where

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<v Speaker 2>can they find it? And how how can they go

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<v Speaker 2>about listening and downloading?

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<v Speaker 5>iTunes?

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify, at any platform really, Like the demos of a

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<v Speaker 1>bride stuff that I put up is only on Spotify

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, iTunes was like new like there was

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<v Speaker 1>an error or something when I uploaded that.

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<v Speaker 5>But otherwise, yeah, it's it's under my name Booker Nile.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my little rock band that I made is

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<v Speaker 1>called Internet Friends, and then my metal band is make

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<v Speaker 1>Them Suffer, and that I would I imagine most people

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<v Speaker 1>who have watched the show and most people out there

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't like that band, but give it us, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to admit.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Like when when we found out that we were

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<v Speaker 2>looking in an interview, I went and I was like listening,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, holy shit, this is hard. Like

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<v Speaker 2>this is full on only because I am so deep

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<v Speaker 2>in the world of pop. It's disgusting. You Wiggles concert guys,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to break this to you, Laura, but

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<v Speaker 3>the Wiggles isn't in the pop category.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for the entertainment. Thank you for like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>gracing our screens for the last couple of months, like we

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<v Speaker 2>can get.

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<v Speaker 3>An interview, yeah one, thank you for the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>We've loved interviewing, and you guys are great fun. We

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<v Speaker 2>wish you so much luck with all of the music

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<v Speaker 2>that's happening now that you can get back out in

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<v Speaker 2>the world in a very short past space of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Not right now, but when you can.

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<v Speaker 3>We wish you the best of luck, and I hope

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<v Speaker 3>you go find yourself a man who ain't gonna fake

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<v Speaker 3>any orgasms. And it's not gonna make you fake any orgasms.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, where's the coum.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, where is the guys do that? They're like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's in the condom. They take it off real quick

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<v Speaker 3>and they put in the bin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a hundred. I'm going to say something super

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to say something super crude. I have

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<v Speaker 3>had people tell me that when a guy wants to

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<v Speaker 3>fake it, and I'm sorry for anyone, they'll do it

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<v Speaker 3>doggie style and they'll they'll spit on the back and

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<v Speaker 3>pretend it and then they wipe it off. It's discussing

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know why they would do it, but

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<v Speaker 3>like it's irrelevant. Let's just go find you a man sex.

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<v Speaker 5>Like imagine that. I hope that's not my next sexual experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, I really hot the next time someone tries to

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<v Speaker 2>turn you over at the end, you're gonna be like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>look me in the eye, Brittany said. Anyway, that is

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<v Speaker 2>it from us. If you have left the episode, you

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<v Speaker 2>you know the drill. Go and tell your mom, tell

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<v Speaker 2>your dad, tell your dog, tell your friends, and shed

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<v Speaker 2>love because we love loves