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Speaker 1: Every week, millions of Ossie kids take part in community

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Speaker 1: sport and mostly because it is fun to do. But

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Speaker 1: if that sport environment's not physically or emotionally safe, that

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Speaker 1: fund can rapidly disappear. And a recent survey by Victorian

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Speaker 1: University found that eighty two percent of respondents had experienced

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Speaker 1: some form of violence while playing sport as a child.

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Speaker 1: It's almost unthinkable. And today actually sees the launch of

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Speaker 1: a brand new national campaign which is called Start to Talk.

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Speaker 1: It's a campaign aimed at keeping our kids safe in sport. Now.

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Speaker 1: Morgan Lando is the managing director of Not on My

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Speaker 1: Watch and has an extensive history of child safe measures

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Speaker 1: and protecting kids in sport. And Morgan also sits on

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Speaker 1: the Start to Talk Advisory Committee and joins me on

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Speaker 1: the line right now. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Morgan, Morning, Katie Morgan.

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Speaker 1: Safeguarding children in sport, What exactly does that mean?

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Speaker 2: What we're talking about is ensuring that each organization that

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Speaker 2: provides sports programs for children has some good tools, resources

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Speaker 2: and systems to reduce the likelihood of inappropriate behavior and harm,

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Speaker 2: so that inappropriate behavior can be anything from yelling and

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Speaker 2: abuse from the sidelines and spectators right through any sort

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Speaker 2: of racist comments, social media abuse, or even far more

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Speaker 2: serious incidents like criminal assault or sexual assault.

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Speaker 1: It can be really difficult. You know, I've got two

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Speaker 1: kids that obviously play sport. They're only young, and some

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Speaker 1: of what you see can be pretty worrying, particularly you

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Speaker 1: know when you talk about kids sort of taking aim

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Speaker 1: at other kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously this campaign is geared towards adults, so parents

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Speaker 2: and guardians having a conversation with their clubs, but it

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Speaker 2: certainly is encouraging young kids to talk to each other,

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Speaker 2: talk to their club, talk to their parents and families

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Speaker 2: about things that they might be concerned about, and certain

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Speaker 2: things that they see in sport that are great that

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Speaker 2: they want to be replicated and see more of.

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Speaker 1: What types of questions do you think that parents should

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Speaker 1: actually be asking kids when it comes to these issues.

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Speaker 2: Really good question, I think in my experience, asking children

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Speaker 2: for feedback informally after their sporting experience is a great opportunity.

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Speaker 2: So on the car ride home or once you finish

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Speaker 2: training or a match and they're hitting the canteen or

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Speaker 2: the barbecue, just saying to them, what was it like today?

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Speaker 2: Did you have fun? Is there anything you're worried about.

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Speaker 2: Opens the door for those young people to raise any

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Speaker 2: concerns that they have. Outside of that, we always encourage

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Speaker 2: organizations to have some good feedback systems and loops so

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Speaker 2: that children and their families, their parents and guardians can

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Speaker 2: raise concerns if they do have any.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a tough one, but kids do tend

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Speaker 1: to open up a little bit more when you are

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Speaker 1: on that car ride home and having a bit of

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Speaker 1: a talk to them. I mean, as a parent, how

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Speaker 1: do you know though, if your child is having an

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Speaker 1: issue at their club, if they're not opening up on

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Speaker 1: that car ride home or after the game's over.

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Speaker 2: Really good question, Katie. What we've seen has worked or

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Speaker 2: see seems to be a bit of an indicator in

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Speaker 2: regard to risk is children who are getting apprehensive or

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Speaker 2: nervous before a sporting activity, or are distressed after a

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Speaker 2: sporting activity. So they might not be directly disclosing what's

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Speaker 2: causing that tension or stress, but those sorts of body

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Speaker 2: language behaviors and those sorts of indicators that parents can

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Speaker 2: often identify quite easily in their children where they look

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Speaker 2: quite scared or concerned or pressured, that can be indicated

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Speaker 2: that something's going wrong.

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Speaker 1: Morgan, We know this as it is. Clubs do struggle

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Speaker 1: to get volunteers. Does something like start to Talk in

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Speaker 1: this campaign make that aspect even tougher in some.

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Speaker 2: Ways really good question. What we don't want to do

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Speaker 2: is for any organization to think that this is a

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Speaker 2: burden or a complex campaign. What we've done is design

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Speaker 2: simple tools, guides and resources that clubs can initiate, which

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Speaker 2: don't take very long. They're all free and readily available

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Speaker 2: via the play by the Rules website, and we hope

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Speaker 2: that that will encourage more volunteers to come forward. Volunteering

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Speaker 2: has declined since COVID, and what we're looking for as

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Speaker 2: parents to step into that safeguarding space. Help your sporting

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Speaker 2: clubs and organizations to keep children safe by volunteering and

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Speaker 2: having the conversations with the adults within those programs.

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Speaker 1: Morgan, Where can people get that info? I know you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the website. Where can they go to if they

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Speaker 1: are after some further.

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Speaker 3: Info, Use the search engine and look for play by

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Speaker 3: the Rules or just directly into play by the Rules

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Speaker 3: dot net dot au and you'll find a wealth of

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Speaker 3: resources and guidelines and tools and advice well.

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Speaker 1: Morgan Lander. Great to catch up with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks your time, Katie, thank you