WEBVTT - Marley, Big Brother Australia's Tells All Interview! 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.520 Welcome back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.240 on this podcast, I'll be going behind the scenes with 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.320 the biggest players in television. Last week I took a 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.559 break as I was lucky enough to guess on two 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.480 other people's podcasts, so I kind of felt like that 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.599 was enough of my voice in the podcast world for 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.800 last week without my weekly dose of TV Reload, while 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.480 I'm back this week with an amazing guest, and I'll 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.680 tell you what it is worth the way. If you 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.680 want to check out those podcasts, just search board best 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.240 Mates with Blake and podcast hosts Revealed, let me know 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.000 what you think. Both were extremely different chats, but super 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.640 cool to be asked on other people's podcasts. This week, 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.280 I've been lucky enough to watch the first few episodes 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.560 of the rebooted gossip Girl, which is coming to Binge 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.640 on July sixth. The new Gossip Girl is set seven 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.239 years later at the same school you'd remember Blair and 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.839 Serena attending. And it's our whole new drama drama drama 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.080 for some new teenagers. And guess what gossip Girl is 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.040 back with more to say, I actually had a lot 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.240 of fun watching this show. And I hope it finds 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.720 a new audience while creating some nostalgia for the old fans. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.120 I also saw the first six episodes of Lux Listening, 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.760 which is a fantastic new reality series debuting on July 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.679 ninth on Amazon Prime Video. Lux Listening Sydney follows three 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.840 elite agents as they negotiate multimillion dollar deals in one 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.760 of the most competitive real estate markets in the world, Sydney, Australia. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.840 I've been calling it the Real Hustle of Sydney as 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.120 it feels like a Real Housewives format, but with property 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.800 instead of fabulous outfits. Now today is a really fun chat. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.800 It's with Mali. He's the twenty twenty one winner of 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.160 Big Brother. I got to spend the morning with him 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.240 and he was beyond delightful, so calm, so cool, and 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.399 more honest than you'd ever expect. I ask him all 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:47.440 of the hard hitting questions like where's the new house 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.120 being built for Big Brother Vip and the next Big 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.560 Brother twenty twenty two series, his interesting relationship dynamics with 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.560 fellow contestants like Ari and Daniel Yes. I also asked 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.320 him about the manipulation of the game to keep contestants 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.880 that are more popular in the show ask him whether 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.320 or not he thinks it's fair. We also talk about 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.840 the challenges and if they need to be more mindful 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.240 and less physical. There's something in this chat for everyone. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.000 There are some really important life lessons that extend out 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.120 of the Big Brother world, which I think is going 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.000 to be relevant for everyone. So let's get started with 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.560 Australia's latest Big Brother champion. As he spills the tea 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.560 and puts the tin in TV. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.080 Reload, I spoke about how proud I am to be 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.560 representing a minority group and people of color. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.880 This is it, Australia, the moment you've all been waiting for. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.680 And as lame and cliche as it sounds, just be yourself. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.079 London to my new house mom. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.520 Whatever they showed, yes, that was me. That is me, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.520 through and through and I'm so grateful for this whole experience. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.239 So thank you Big Brother, and thank you Australia. Yeah, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:51.880 I'm interested to see where it's going to be. I'm 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.040 not sure if it's in New South Wales or Queensland 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.760 or where it might be, but I've heard it looks wonderful. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:00.720 The winner a Big Brother twenty twenty one. I think 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.480 you just have to be yourself and embrace who you are. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:05.720 How are you made to you? 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.079 Well, I'm great, I'm great, Ben. I feel a lot 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.480 better now after having some sleep, being able to rest 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.519 a little bit and being back home. I think so, No, 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:13.839 I'm feeling great, really good. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:15.840 What a ride, hay to. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.440 Say the least, bloodyel What a ride? What a ride? 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.280 What a journey? The ups and downs of not only 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.840 being in the house but then also coming out and 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.600 then watching it all on TV and then this huge 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.680 lull and limbo period waiting until to see if you're 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.480 going to win this whole thing? Like, what a ride? 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:34.640 Like? 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.600 There's so many elements, you know, Well, I. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.440 Guess now that you've had some time for the dust 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.680 to settle, you know, there's been forty eight hours or 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.760 however long has it really, sun Ken? And how do 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.440 you feel about being the winner of Big Brother else? 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:46.560 You know? 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.320 It hit me last night and I was driving home 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.080 with my dad and my brother, and I think it's 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.160 starting to settle and sink in a little more and 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.040 more each day. But I just sat there and I 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.400 was like, I am number one in Australia. Like I'm 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.480 the winner of Big Brother in Australia, not just you know, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.800 my little suburb that I live in, not just Melbourne. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.839 I'm the winner of Big Brother in Australia. Like it's 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.280 starting to now sink in. Bennette's the craziest feeling, as 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.880 I'm sure you can relate to. Like it's just a wild, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.760 wild feeling, and I don't think it will truly sink 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.080 in for another couple more days. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.440 How did the girls feel and how did they respond 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.240 to their runners up status? Because they responded I think 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.320 really well on stage and on the show. But they 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.280 do they have any tough words with you backstage or 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:31.919 did you see any tears? 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.840 And they're just beautiful those girls. I commend them truly. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.120 You saw s Jay's reaction on stage. She really wanted 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.880 me to win this thing. She's a beautiful, beautiful, amazing woman. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.159 And then Christina, Man, what a good head she has 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.039 on her shoulders, Like backstage and afterwards and all that, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.960 she's cracking jokes, we're having a laugh, she's talking about 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.320 the money that I'm going to be apparently splitting with 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.119 her now, like you know, just having a great moment 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:56.960 with me and just having a laugh about the whole thing. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.720 How did you feel and did you feel proud that 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.440 a person of color has taken out the competition again 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.599 And is that even a factor in your mind? 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.279 Yeah, absolutely, Ben, And especially towards near the endgame there, 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.640 I think it started becoming a little more prevalent in 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.560 the back of my mind as something that is so special. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.359 I didn't truly think about that when coming in because 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.400 that's just not what I really think about. But within 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.440 the world we live in, like this is huge, This 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.760 is a huge moment, and I started really thinking about 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.560 that and embracing that towards the back end, and I 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.039 did talk about it within the diaryem It wasn't put 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.839 out to air, but I spoke about how proud I 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.839 am to be representing a minority group and people of 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.960 color and being an inspiration to these people to show, 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.640 you know, young kids, that you can make it far 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.719 and succeed in life looking and talking and sounding like myself. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.719 So I think that was a huge moment for me 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:48.120 as well. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.279 I think it's important for Australians and anybody to be 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.039 seen on screen, and I hope that from people being 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.760 able to see your journey on the show and see 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.920 your popularity on the show that it does inspire more 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.200 people of color life for these sorts of shows. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.480 I couldn't agree more than I think this could potentially 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.359 change somebody's life who's watching this and allow them to 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.960 realize that they can exactly apply for shows like this 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.080 or even gain other successes in life and be confident 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:14.279 doing so. You know what I mean. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.479 It was so emotional watching the finale. I wanted to 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:19.400 be a fly on the wall after the show just 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.960 to find out what did your dad say to you 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.600 after the cameras stop rolling? Can you share that with us? 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.160 Yeah, of course, of course he was. I know when 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.400 dad's really, really, really emotional and proud is when he's very, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.320 very speechless. He can't say a lot, he doesn't have 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:38.240 a lot of words. Yeah, just so words. I don't 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.840 know's I know, it's crazy, it's crazy, is. 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:43.080 True with me? 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.840 She's the one true, the number one? Yeah, well, this 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.800 short I could hear it in his voice, and you 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.120 could hear it a little bit up on stage. Actually, yeah, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.680 it was a little brokey and he was a little 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.719 choked up. But yeah, afterwards he just he held me 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.839 and told me that I did it, and how proud 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.680 he was of me, and how proud Mum would be 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.320 of me, and that was that was a special moment 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.839 from him and my brother hearing that, you know, because 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.040 I knew that really came from their heart. And it 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.160 was just such a special moment for us three boys, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.760 because you know, I felt Mum's presence there and I 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.360 knew she was watching over her boys and so proud 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.720 of them. So it was a special moment for us, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.600 especially for Dad. I think he felt relieved, to be honest, man, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.400 I think you know hard It's been a hard journey 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.560 for him too, so I think he felt really relieved. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.160 I'm glad that it's over. You know, Sonya Kruger is 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.160 so hands on with this show and she's so supportive 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.720 of all of the housemates. Did she manage to give 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.800 you any advice? I mean, you know, she's been the 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.520 host of it five times now and seeing so many 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.160 different contestants go through, seeing so many people win, was 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.000 she able to we were able to have a moment 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.600 with her, and did she give you any advice? 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.000 Look, I didn't have a specific moment with her, but 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.920 I think you know, Sonya's presence, ben I mean even 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.480 in rehearsals, right, Yeah, we'd go through and we all 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.960 had to practice winning, like we'll, you know, just have 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.720 a call out for all of us, right. And I 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.960 think just during that moment, indirectly, Sonya was even you know, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.040 speaking to probably all three of us in that moment 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.680 just to be calm and stay within the moment and like, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.880 literally one of us are going to win this thing, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.880 so it's going to happen. Enjoy this whole ride and process, 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.920 and just her cool, calm, you know, confident demeanor that 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.480 I'm just so cool. You know. I kind of took 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.080 a little bit of that away and took that into 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.480 the finale there because I was just like, yeah, this 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.960 is just another day. Like take this in. It's not 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:28.920 just another day, but take it in, you know, and 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.760 be calm. Don't just be so anxious and nervous that 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.000 you forget the whole thing and it's a whole blur. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.840 So I think you're so placid. I loved watching you 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.360 throughout the whole series because I thought, no matter what 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.880 was happening or whether the driver was high or low, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.240 Mary just seems to be chilled out and taking it 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.079 on board. And I could do with a lot more 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.679 of that in my life. Let me tell you, what 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.559 do you think made you such a good Reality TV 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.280 contestant and what makes a good Reality TV contestant in 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.240 twenty twenty one. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.719 That's a great that's a great question. Then that's something 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.240 and I especially talks about within this game, is that, 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.280 you know, we stayed cool and calm the whole way through, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.320 especially myself. I came into this experience understanding and kind 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.800 of anticipating that it would be a huge mess like 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.320 it was. I don't think a lot of people did, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.000 potentially a lot of younger cast members that we had, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.880 like Pricking Tilly, who would be bouncing off the walls 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.960 if something didn't go the right way, or even Danny 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.200 on the opposite side of the spectrum. You know, I 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.200 just remained cool and calm, and I think that's what 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.559 helped me get throughout this game and remain very fluid 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.720 and just have short term memory in there. You know, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.640 things didn't go my way a lot of the time, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.680 but you've got to wake up the next day, forget 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.760 about it, move on, see what you can do to progress. 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.880 If you don't, you're going down with the ships. So 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.960 I think That's a huge part and reason to why 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.240 I was so successful. I think within games and shows 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.959 like this, you do definitely need that in order to 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.720 be successful. But I think, honestly, then, I think the 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.360 biggest part, and as lame and cliche as it sounds, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.920 just be yourself man, in these things. You know what 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.199 I mean, you get casted for a reason, or if 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.480 you weren't being yourself in the casting audition process, be 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.679 that person that your auditioned as you know what I 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.280 mean the whole way through. Don't flip flop around and 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.319 change around. Be you, and you'll come out of this 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.520 experience and not have any regrets. And I think that's 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.320 what allowed me to really be within this moment and 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.240 enjoy the moment. I know for a lot of people, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.400 you come out and you don't really enjoy the moment 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.000 and you're upset about your edit or this, that and 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.600 the other. That never phased me because I knew whatever 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:24.520 they showed, yes. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:24.800 That was me. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.080 That is me through and through, and I'm going to 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.600 embrace everything they show because I was in control of 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:30.199 what I saying. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.160 Did you feel attached to the Big Brother House itself? 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.319 I mean it's almost has a personality of its own 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.320 and housemates throughout the twenty years of Big Brother talk 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.880 about this sense of ownership over the house. How did 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.200 you feel? Did you feel quite attached? And are you 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.560 missing being there or are you happy to be out? 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.080 Yeah, as crazy as it sounds, you do. You do 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.920 feel attacked. And I'll tell you, when I realized it 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.199 wasn't a real house, was freaking afterwards. When we've obviously, 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.480 you know, made it to the top three, We're done, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.800 you know, we've done our little exit interview and everything, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:01.680 and then I look back into the house and they're 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.960 already just taking everything down. The camera is everything, and 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.800 I go, oh my god, this is a set. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:10.079 This isn't even because meanwhile, before I leave the house 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.000 for the last time i'm in there, I go and 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.160 hug my bed, I run into the cave, run into 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.120 the bathroom, I said goodbye to everything, and it wasn't 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.000 even a real home. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.400 So they do such a good job. I don't know 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.040 how they do it. It's such an interesting experiment, but 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.680 they do such an amazing job of making that feel 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.240 like it's your only world and like it's a real home. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:29.600 It's a cool experience. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.000 It's so strange. Do you know which state the new 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.640 Big Brother House is going to be? And I mean, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.720 they've dismantled your house, and if I can be self 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.320 reflective of myself, I remember when the house that I 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.560 was in burnt down. I felt really sad and I 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.480 was like, oh my god, I'll never see that house 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.880 or no other new housemates will ever go back into 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.360 that house. It was really sad. Do you know whether 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.480 or not they're going to build the house in New 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.600 South Wales or Queensland? You know where it's going to be. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.560 I'm not sure exactly where it's going to be. No, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.280 but I have heard that it looks wonderful. That's all 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.560 I've heard. I didn't get a lot of information out 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.960 of my source, but yeah, it is kind of weird 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.520 that it's not in there again and that we're going 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.559 to be watching this show again next year whenever it's aired, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.680 and see that it's not the same house that we 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.680 lived in. It's almost like a totally different game and 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.880 experience I think it will be for us watching back. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.080 So yeah, I'm interested to see where it's going to be. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.359 I'm not sure if it's in New South Wales or Queensland. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.520 Or where it might be. But I've heard it looks wonderful. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.439 And it's built, it's ready to go exactly. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.160 I see the built, it's in the process, and it 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.040 looks amazing apparently, So we'll see. Actually it might be 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.800 kind of cool and refreshing to see something different on TV. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.680 Yeah, did you have a bromance with Big Brother himself? Now? 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.560 We often hear about women falling in love with him 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.439 and boys wanting his approval? Can you describe maybe your 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.400 relationship with him? 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.120 Yeah, it was special. It was special then, and I 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.440 think towards the end of this game is when we 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.880 became really really close. I think at the start of 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.360 this game, you walk in and you think you know everything. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.800 You know what I mean, you obviously can't see everything. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.360 He sees everything. You know. He you You've got to 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.640 realize and submit yourself to him and understand that he's 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.240 trying to help you through this process as well. He 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.200 wants to see everyone succeed. So I think towards the 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.120 end game here me and him became really really close. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.160 I was able to talk to him about everything and anything, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.800 and even just sit there in the diary room and 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.160 he would listen and help me and we'd sit there 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.440 sometimes in silence, you know, thinking things through. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:21.200 That's amazing. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.440 And he was a great little yeah, a great like 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.120 soundboard just to listen to me crap on or think 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.280 about this strategy or this plan or this idea. And 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.920 it really really helped me. I really appreciate him, and 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.840 there was a special moment in that then when I 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.200 got really really emotional. He said, we got to a 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.120 point I think it was probably where I had no 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.080 one on my side and I was thinking, you know, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.000 I'm going to be the next one off here, and 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.280 he said, Maley, you need to understand that everybody that 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.720 has come into this diary room has not said one 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.960 bad word about you, and you've got to use that 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.080 to your advantage. And I just started tearing up once 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.440 he said that part, and just thought, you know, this 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.800 is beautiful and we'd share really special moments like that. 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.559 I'm not sure if he, you know, was meant to 0:13:58.559 --> 0:13:59.920 say that or not, but it was just such a 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.520 special and real moment, you know what I mean, And 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.920 it was beautiful to hear from him. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.400 Do you have his mobile number or email address? And 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.680 are you going to try and hit him up for 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.360 more secret chats. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.360 Absolutely, I have to get onto it now, Ben. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.720 I remember being at the after party of the twenty 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.240 twelve series and I met one of the voices of 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.560 Big Brother who I had a really strong kinship with, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.680 and I got his email address anyway, emailed him and 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:28.080 he never wrote back, so it was all fake. 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:29.280 Maybe it's all fake. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.680 I'm still in There was three in my series, so yeah, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.320 I've been in contact with some of the other ones. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.240 But yeah, yeah, you know, it must be strange for them. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.640 They'll be like, I've just spent fifty six days or 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:42.680 however long with these people, go away now. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.080 Yeah, literally dealing with that. I know. I was speaking 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.920 to one backstage and he said that like he was 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.320 going through such a hard time because he was dealing 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.560 with usks and then going back home and dealing with 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.320 all that stuff too. So he said it was tough. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.320 It was getting tough for it. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.440 Imagine going back to your normal life, you know, and 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:58.960 you wouldn't be able to talk about it with your 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.440 wife or you know, with you a husband or whoever. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.600 You know, it would be such a surreal experience. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.880 Oh man, Ben, it would be insane. I don't know 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.560 how they do it. You'd have to be such a 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.360 unique person. And I always thought that to be big 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.120 brother or be that voice, you know what I mean, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.640 Like you have to be so quick, smart, witty, you 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.400 have to almost be like a psychologist, like special special 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:18.440 talent to do that role. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.760 Unbelievable. You know, what were your reactions to watching the 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.560 show as it aired? I mean, I can't actually imagine 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.440 the process of processing it as the public processes. Was 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.880 that a hard thing to do? 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:30.160 Like? 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.920 Did you look forward to watching each episode or were 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.600 you nervous watching it or scared? 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.360 For the most part, I want to say probably ninety 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.640 percent of it, I was very excited to watch it. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.480 There was a couple moments there. Obviously, there were certain 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.720 things that happened in the game. It didn't really go 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.520 my way, and I was wondering how this would be 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.400 perceived by the public or portrayed, and how they kind 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.160 of edit it up. You'd kind of get a little 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.000 glimpse of how they were going to lead into the 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.480 episode though through the previews that they'd show. Yeah, but 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.000 I'd go, oh, I think it's going to go this way, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.520 and that would kind of ease my nerves. But there 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.080 were a couple moments within that game where I was like, oh, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.600 I hope this doesn't hinder my spot, you know, towards 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.600 the back end. But it all turned out amazingly, so 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.040 I think for the most part, I really really enjoyed it. Ben. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.720 I was really excited, and I kind of got used 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.600 to watching myself on TV, which. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.760 Was weird, like, I'm watching you, so I'm really you know, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.400 that's such a surreal thing for you to say, because 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.360 I think there's a lot of people in Australia right 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.640 now that is missing some Maali on their TV screen. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.160 Yeah. Right, And that's beautiful, man. I just and that 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.720 was my goal going in, Ben, I wanted to. And 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.040 I remember talking and sitting with our wellness manager before 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.800 the show and she said, well, what's your goal going in? 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.440 And I said, honestly, I just want to inspire and 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.960 change somebody's life within that moment in a positive way, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.360 just one person. If I've done that, I've done my job, 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.080 you know. And she goes, well, you'd want to you know, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.240 probably inspire a lot more than that, wouldn't you, Marley, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.880 And I go, Na, Honestly, it's just one person. I've 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.280 done my job and I've the thousands of overwhelmingly beautiful 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:57.040 messages I've received throughout the show, and then afterwards I 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.480 won before I eaten one, so it's amazing. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.440 I'm just remember having so many conversations about you throughout 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.720 the series. People were talking about your smile. They were like, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.280 you know, I couldn't think of debriefing the final episode, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.040