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Speaker 1: Yesterday we heard from the Health Minister Natasha Files following

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Speaker 1: is set for a massive increase in Australian's returning home.

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Speaker 1: The facility is going to accept up to two thousand

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Speaker 1: But as you heard yesterday, many including the Australian Medical Association,

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. The facility will be overseen by the

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker and the team credited with the

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Speaker 1: success of this facility on the international arrival side. The

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Speaker 1: National Critical Care and Trauma Response Center is going to

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Speaker 1: to take over. They've got to find an additional four

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Speaker 1: hundred staff to man that facility as well. Now joining

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Speaker 1: the National Critical Care and Trauma Response Center, the Executive Director,

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Speaker 1: Professor Len Nataris. Good morning, Len, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, and good morning to you listeners as well. Like Katie,

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Speaker 2: very proud to be a part of the NCCTRC and

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Speaker 1: Well, then when did you first become aware that the

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Speaker 1: National Critical Care and Trauma Response Center the OZMAT team

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Speaker 1: would not be overseeing the center at Howard Springs when

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Speaker 1: the number of repatriated ossies increases.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think we should put it in the context.

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Speaker 2: In the first instance, Katie, while we're federally funded, we

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Speaker 2: the achievedness of the DNT. The expansion itself is a

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Speaker 2: tremendous news story THENT, along with the vaccine rollout, and

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Speaker 2: three when we started repatriating Australians and in fact, yesterday

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Speaker 2: we're doing just on four flights every year fortnight now

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Speaker 2: eight hundred coming in. Now, I first of all was

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Speaker 2: And then this is the latest agreement which I've certainly

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Speaker 2: Territorians and returning Australian's minds at rest. It is business

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Speaker 2: as usual. We've been tasked as the NCCTRC and OZMA

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Speaker 2: a deliberate process. One to consolidate the merge, the blending

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Speaker 2: since October of twenty nineteen, kb WE, OSMAT and the

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Speaker 2: NCCC have successfully deployed just on seventeen to eighteen times.

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Speaker 2: That's saying that the Howard Springs Centerfnational Resilience is just

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Speaker 2: one of those. So we've been constantly doing them as

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Speaker 2: We've been pretty busy, so ultimately we would be looking

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Speaker 1: So I guess you know it's not a It may

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Speaker 1: transition is going to happen, But len, I mean, did

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Speaker 2: Our look, at one stage we thought it would be.

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Speaker 2: And this is going back to last year. We'd originally

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Speaker 2: done that well. And truly before the thirty first of March,

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Speaker 1: And they are most certainly amazing women. They're women who

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Speaker 1: Can I just take you back? When did you find

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Speaker 2: Look at her about the time that the discussions and again,

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Speaker 1: Yell Len. The Critical Care and traum response he to that,

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Speaker 1: Honestly, your team has so much support from the territory

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Speaker 1: have been positive COVID nineteen cases. Now, it's no accident

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Speaker 2: Look, I think that we have one thing that we

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Speaker 2: very comfortable. You're absolutely right. By Friday or Saturday of

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Speaker 1: Well, I tell you it's you know, it's certainly I

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Speaker 1: Is well, we've long said, We've long said, you're like

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Speaker 2: Oh look, Okati, you've hit it on the head. And

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Speaker 2: of we're coming into the dry season and we've also

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Speaker 2: we've done it and we're internationally recognized, so there are

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Speaker 2: of that. And as as I have suggested a couple

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Speaker 1: Lenn can I just ask finally this morning, is the

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Speaker 2: No, No, I don't believe so, as long as we

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Speaker 2: could be anything up to months. We haven't actually said

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Speaker 2: we won't be going anywhere until such time as we're

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Speaker 2: very comfortable one with the handover, and two with the

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Speaker 1: So at this point in time, there's not a definitive

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Speaker 2: No, there has been some confusion about that because I

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Speaker 2: think that confusion arises, in part, Katie, from the fact

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Speaker 2: done our job back on the thirty we hope, back

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Speaker 2: In other words, we would have done our five thousand

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Speaker 2: that what we leave behind, because it's not in our

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Len Nataris, I always appreciate your time, particularly

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Speaker 1: this morning. I know that you're a busy man and

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Speaker 1: your team is incredibly busy as well. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: very much for having a chat with me today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, And that's very much appreciated. That support

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Speaker 2: that I've heard from the community regardless, as has brought

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Speaker 2: it here to my a couple of times. Now.

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Speaker 1: Well, Len's it is something that I think the whole

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Speaker 1: community feels that you guys have done a phenomenal job,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that is why we're all feeling a little

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Speaker 1: bit worried at this point. But I am pleased to

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Speaker 1: this right. Absolutely good on you, Lenn, Thanks for your

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Speaker 1: time today. That is the National Critical Care and Trauma

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Speaker 1: Response Executive Director, Professor Len Nataras eight nine four one

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Speaker 1: one O four nine. If you'd like to call through