Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week. Don't welcome back guys
Speaker 1: to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this
Speaker 1: podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players
Speaker 1: in television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great questions.
Speaker 3: The show's about the game. There's a lot of great
Speaker 3: television out there in Australia.
Speaker 1: But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers.
Speaker 1: The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the news and casting agents.
Speaker 3: They know from a casting point of view what they need.
Speaker 1: And editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers.
Speaker 1: Not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making
Speaker 1: some of the best TV in Australia.
Speaker 2: I have been on the program since the beginning and
Speaker 2: it's kind of in my DNA.
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining me each week and I hope
Speaker 1: the podcast continues to give you real insight into the
Speaker 1: magic of television today. On the podcast, I have Amy
Speaker 1: On from Australian survivor, who is the eighth person to
Speaker 1: be eliminated from the Channel ten series this year, The
Speaker 1: Global Phenomenon, produced by Andimol Shine follows the Blood Versus Water,
Speaker 1: which sees competitors playing alongside their loved ones. Amy joined
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Castaways with her brother Khan, and
Speaker 1: while we never got to see them both reunite, it
Speaker 1: was clear to audiences that they have an unshakable bond
Speaker 1: with plenty of wheeling and dealing. I actually really enjoyed
Speaker 1: Amy's time on the current series, and today we'll ask
Speaker 1: her about why she joined her brother on the show,
Speaker 1: her thoughts on what could have been, and who she
Speaker 1: thinks will win. There's plenty more coming up in the chat,
Speaker 1: and without further ado, let's welcome the gorgeous Melburnie and
Speaker 1: Amy on to TV Reload.
Speaker 2: He knew that when he asked me that it was
Speaker 2: going to be quite hard to convince me.
Speaker 1: Can't on and his sister Amy are team and ought
Speaker 1: to take on the ultimate game of Survivor.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, what am I getting
Speaker 3: myself into.
Speaker 1: Well, blood proved to be thicker than water.
Speaker 3: Now when I watch it on TV, I'm like, well, nothing.
Speaker 2: Is ever simple when it comes to survive by it
Speaker 2: was so hot you're just constantly sweating all the time.
Speaker 1: Eight person voted out of blood versus water.
Speaker 2: Amy, I'm kind of surprised that we didn't get her
Speaker 2: out on the first tribal Council.
Speaker 1: Hi, Amy, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great? So congratulations on your time an Australian Survivor.
Speaker 1: How did it feel watching it back last night?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so obviously last night I got blindsided.
Speaker 2: Watching it back was honestly great for me and eye
Speaker 2: opening because I got to see, you know, who betrayed me,
Speaker 2: who went.
Speaker 3: And told on me. So that was nice to see
Speaker 3: and it was really good to see.
Speaker 2: That they weren't voting me out on anything other than
Speaker 2: the fact that I was coming for them.
Speaker 1: Well, I really was enjoying you on the show, and
Speaker 1: I know Cahn. So when there was that comment that
Speaker 1: you cooked yourself, I took it personally.
Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder how long that took for
Speaker 2: you to come up with, Josh.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should get some cooking lessons from your brother.
Speaker 3: He burnt yourself hard.
Speaker 1: How did Australian Survivor come up for you?
Speaker 2: So basically how Survivor came up for me was that
Speaker 2: Khan is a huge fan of the show.
Speaker 3: It's always been his dream to go on, I think.
Speaker 2: And one day I just got a call from Khan
Speaker 2: being like, Hey, can you do me a favor please?
Speaker 3: And I was like a favor? What is this favor?
Speaker 2: And he was like, I have a interview for Survivor,
Speaker 2: but it's a theme where you have to bring on
Speaker 2: your loved one.
Speaker 3: Can you come with me please? I was like, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, what am I getting myself into.
Speaker 2: I think I took like an hour to kind of
Speaker 2: think about it, but then I was like, this is
Speaker 2: his dream. He can't go on without me because we've
Speaker 2: got no other family members really, so I just have
Speaker 2: to suck it up and go. Having my younger sister
Speaker 2: Amy in the game will be really beneficial because I
Speaker 2: think my tribemates will see a softer side.
Speaker 1: Met Well, was there any our the option for Khan?
Speaker 1: I mean, did he have a backup plan or was
Speaker 1: it just you?
Speaker 3: There was definitely no other backup plan. There's only me.
Speaker 2: Well, there's my mom, but she's never she would never
Speaker 2: do that. She's got her own things to deal with.
Speaker 2: So it was just me at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to be the person that stopped
Speaker 2: him from fulfilling his dream.
Speaker 3: So I just suck it up and go.
Speaker 1: It was reality television, something that you ever thought that
Speaker 1: you would do, or you'd ever aspired to.
Speaker 2: I think after Kahan has been on Master Chef and
Speaker 2: he had you know, he'd asked me before, would you
Speaker 2: do something like that? And I told him very clearly,
Speaker 2: I never want to do anything like that. I'm not
Speaker 2: the person that likes to put myself out there and
Speaker 2: my life out there. You know, I'm comfortable with everything
Speaker 2: that I've got, all my friends, that I've got, my
Speaker 2: close circle, and that's it.
Speaker 3: And I think he knew and he knew.
Speaker 2: That when he asked me that it was going to
Speaker 2: be quite hard to convince me.
Speaker 1: Well, he's very very good at being able to convince
Speaker 1: people to do things. I've known him for a really
Speaker 1: long time and I've witnessed him convincing people to do
Speaker 1: things they didn't want to do before. So I've got
Speaker 1: to ask what were the conditions of the camp, like,
Speaker 1: you know, were they better or worse than you expected?
Speaker 1: And was there ever a time where you thought, what
Speaker 1: has my brother got me into?
Speaker 2: So the conditions at camp were, well, the conditions in
Speaker 2: you know, in Charter's towers were just brutal. It was
Speaker 2: so hot. You're just constantly sweating all the time. You're
Speaker 2: just wet all the time. And then there's the no food.
Speaker 3: You've got minimal food, and you know, I want to
Speaker 3: go home.
Speaker 1: I'd hoped that, you know, at some point that you
Speaker 1: and Khan would have had the opportunity to play together.
Speaker 1: What did you think that would have looked like had
Speaker 1: the teams emerged and you had that opportunity.
Speaker 2: If Kan and I had the chance to play together,
Speaker 2: I think that would have been a lot of trouble.
Speaker 3: I feel like we we would be really strong together.
Speaker 2: By saying that as well, I feel like people know
Speaker 2: that we would be strong, So I don't think we
Speaker 2: would last very long together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would definitely put a target on your back because
Speaker 1: it was interesting with the promos, like towards the start,
Speaker 1: some of the packages that we saw, you know, can't
Speaker 1: look like he might have been going to be a
Speaker 1: bit harsh with you, And then we never really got
Speaker 1: to see the two of you play together. Were you
Speaker 1: stressed and him being sort of your big brother, it
Speaker 1: would have been hard to play with him.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, I wasn't stressed that you know,
Speaker 2: he's my big brother and we will play together.
Speaker 3: All because I know how he is.
Speaker 2: Like literally every single day that we saw each other,
Speaker 2: we would both be like crying.
Speaker 3: Like the amount of times that we cried when we
Speaker 3: saw each other was crazy.
Speaker 1: And the blood versus water theme is quite interesting as
Speaker 1: we you know, we've seen with two or three of
Speaker 1: the most brutal moments where you know, people have turned
Speaker 1: on each other, like kayj and Sophie and Sandra and Nina.
Speaker 1: Has that been surprising to you to watch other teammates
Speaker 1: sort of turn on their loved one.
Speaker 2: Every time I saw that the family members turn on
Speaker 2: each other, I was honestly so shocked because I don't
Speaker 2: think I could ever do that. I would rather sacrifice
Speaker 2: myself and let can't play the game than to sit
Speaker 2: there and write down his name.
Speaker 3: That's just not me at all.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to know is do you think it's
Speaker 1: going to be a good strategy long term to throw
Speaker 1: your family member under the bus Because I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: think that makes you look like a good teammate. But
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not survivor ready.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I think as well, because I'm like
Speaker 2: from a player perspective. If you're willing to cut your
Speaker 2: family member just like that, what do I mean to
Speaker 2: you then as your friend, as your ally?
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I just don't think it looks for
Speaker 1: like a long term game plan. And I also thought
Speaker 1: it was really interesting to see Sandra go. You know,
Speaker 1: with Sandra being such a big international player, you know
Speaker 1: you've got to be having your ducks in a line
Speaker 1: to be chopping off your mum out of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was so shocking for me to see
Speaker 2: her go as well, and to see someone of that
Speaker 2: caliber come in, it's really threatening. She's played six times,
Speaker 2: she's won twice. I'm kind of surprised that we didn't
Speaker 2: get her out on the first tribal council. You know,
Speaker 2: like she lasted quite a long time and people started
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 3: Her threat level.
Speaker 2: She's so smart, she's so strategic, but it doesn't come
Speaker 2: off very intense, so you don't really see it as
Speaker 2: a threat. But she's always there, she's always listening. Well,
Speaker 2: my daughter did tell me when everyone left, she said, Mom,
Speaker 2: I can't continue to save you.
Speaker 3: You know, you got to step it up.
Speaker 1: Who do you think has been the most surprising to
Speaker 1: watch in comparison to how you felt the game plan
Speaker 1: happened during filming.
Speaker 2: I think I honestly would say cahn't because every time
Speaker 2: I saw him on the game in Survivor, he was like,
Speaker 2: everything's all good. He was very low key. He would
Speaker 2: not give me any information. It would not tell me
Speaker 2: who he was working with. And then now when I
Speaker 2: watch it on TV, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, whoa, this is why you were threat because you're.
Speaker 1: Like this, Well, he'd been watching Survivor for years and
Speaker 1: taking down all these notes, so you know, it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be too surprising to see that. You know, he was
Speaker 1: well and truly playing the game. The thing that really
Speaker 1: surprised me with him was his dedication to his fitness,
Speaker 1: you know, and his training before going into the show.
Speaker 1: What sort of training did you do to compare? Did
Speaker 1: you take part in what he was doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Kna and I tried to do a lot
Speaker 2: of the same kind of training. We went rock climbing together,
Speaker 2: we would go swimming.
Speaker 3: I would be going to forty five.
Speaker 2: And also this was a really difficult time in Melbourne
Speaker 2: when we had the lockdown, so everything was closed, so
Speaker 2: like going to the gym was not possible, and so
Speaker 2: you had to just find ways to work that at home.
Speaker 3: And yeah, a lot of puzzles on the phone.
Speaker 1: When you were eliminated. Did you fly home the next day?
Speaker 1: Like is it strange to then leave khn behind and
Speaker 1: fly back to Melbourne without him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you get eliminated, you basically leave straight away.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was honestly hard because I'm like, I
Speaker 2: woke up the next day and I was like, can't
Speaker 2: still here. I know he's in this area, but I
Speaker 2: can't even say goodbye to him. Like that's the sad part.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I wonder what he's feeling and how
Speaker 2: he would be reacting to, you know, walking onto the
Speaker 2: mat and seeing that I'm not there anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm actually stressed about watching Sunday nights episode because I
Speaker 1: don't want to see his face.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm like when I turned around to the tribe and
Speaker 2: I was like, tell him I love him, they were like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, now we.
Speaker 1: Have to deal with Khan and He's literally going to
Speaker 1: come for every single one of them. Yeah. Watching last
Speaker 1: night's episode as well, I thought was really interesting with
Speaker 1: Jonathan Lapalia, but you know, being the host and embracing
Speaker 1: the double entundra. Another big tug on his pole from
Speaker 1: Ben curiously tugging.
Speaker 2: On his.
Speaker 1: What did you think about some of the ways in
Speaker 1: which he was talking about the poll in the challenge
Speaker 1: last night? Did you pick up on that?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I think I was like refreshing Twitter and people were like,
Speaker 2: not Ben dugging on his pole, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're definitely doing this on purpose, like
Speaker 2: Jonathan is doing this on purpose.
Speaker 1: I think each season it's just gotten a little bit
Speaker 1: more because it used to be like a couple of
Speaker 1: seasons back, was that a double entendre? I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: you know, surely as a host you can't say these
Speaker 1: sorts of things. But then last night it was like
Speaker 1: full force, and I think that, you know, he's definitely
Speaker 1: embracing it. Now. What's the social media been like for
Speaker 1: you during the season, Like, you know, what's the strangest
Speaker 1: thing that you've read online that You've gone, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: so weird.
Speaker 3: So the social media for me has been really great.
Speaker 2: I'm quite surprised a lot of I've got quite a
Speaker 2: I've been getting a lot of love from people.
Speaker 3: There's like one or two comments where they're like.
Speaker 2: Bye bye Felicia and I'm like bye boo.
Speaker 3: But other than that, everyone's been really good.
Speaker 2: They've been Everyone's been so supportive and I'm extremely lucky.
Speaker 1: I'd say, are you allowed to guess at this stage?
Speaker 1: I mean, because you you know, I guess. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much you know? Who do you think is
Speaker 1: going to win? Do you have someone that you think
Speaker 1: is going to take out the competition?
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I want Khan to win, but he hasn't told
Speaker 2: me anything, you know, like he I do. I did
Speaker 2: want that kind of element of surprise, so I was like,
Speaker 2: don't you know, don't ruin it for me, don't tell me.
Speaker 3: How you go. But I think he has everything it
Speaker 3: takes to win. I think he's the perfect person to win.
Speaker 1: Well go, King Khan, is what I have to say.
Speaker 1: And anyway, the last question that I ask everyone that
Speaker 1: joins the podcast is what's something from behind the scenes
Speaker 1: that where as an audience didn't see that we might
Speaker 1: appreciate from your time making Survivor.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, So.
Speaker 2: There's one little behind the scenes thing that you didn't
Speaker 2: get to see on TV, And it's quite a funny
Speaker 2: story actually that one day we caught I think my
Speaker 2: tribe caught like nine fish. No one wanted to gut it,
Speaker 2: and they didn't really know what to do with it,
Speaker 2: and I think I kind of just put it in
Speaker 2: my hands because they're like, how your can'd sister, You
Speaker 2: obviously know what to do. So I spent like an
Speaker 2: hour gutting these fish with like I didn't have a
Speaker 2: knife because al machete was blunt as hell. I was
Speaker 2: cutting it up with like a shell, pulling all the
Speaker 2: guts out, and then we cooked it in just the
Speaker 2: coals and it was honestly the most delicious meal I
Speaker 2: had there.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll see you on the next season of
Speaker 1: Master Chef.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go that far.
Speaker 1: Well, Amy, can I just say you were so fantastic
Speaker 1: to watch. You know. My favorite moment of yours was
Speaker 1: when you were asked, you know who you're playing your
Speaker 1: idol for and you weren't. I'm playing it for me.
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I just thought it was really
Speaker 1: cute the way that you said that. So anyway, congratulations
Speaker 1: on your time and Survivor. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you on whatever show can't
Speaker 1: sets you up for next.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me