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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Nini, Well, let's talk about ghosting, strange ghosting. So it's well,

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Speaker 2: you can explain every what ghosting is. What's ghosting? I actually,

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Speaker 2: funnily enough, I wasn't dating when ghosting was a phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Ghosting is, I think something that's been brought about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've been out of the game.

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Speaker 3: For a long time ghosting, so effectively you're seeing somebody

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Speaker 3: on a date with someone, or yeah, potentially you're hooking

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Speaker 3: up with someone. All of a sudden, they just stop

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Speaker 3: answering your calls, stop answering texts, They ghost you.

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Speaker 1: You never hear from them.

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Speaker 2: Again, vanished like a ghost. Yeah right, so you never

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Speaker 2: sad they never hear them again. All right. Well, in

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Speaker 2: the Philippines, they're actually considering making this an illegal offense.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, jail time.

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Speaker 2: Well, well it'll attract a criminal penalty of some sort.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna go to jail for ghosting someone. That seems disproportionate.

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Speaker 2: But here's the Philippines news anchor telling us all about it.

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Speaker 4: Ever, we for a response from a romantic partner, only

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Speaker 4: to find out that it would never come.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 4: Proposed measure declares this act more popularly known as ghosting

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Speaker 4: a form off emotional abuse.

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Speaker 2: There you go, so it's tantamental emotional abuse. That's obviously

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Speaker 2: making a lot of people upset, and they're like, we

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Speaker 2: don't want that in our community, so it's going to

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Speaker 2: be made illegal.

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Speaker 1: It is shocking getting ghosted. I've been ghosted. It's a

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Speaker 1: shocking filing.

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Speaker 2: It must be.

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Speaker 3: Although on one part you're just like, oh, well, now

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Speaker 3: I know you're not interested that I can move on.

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Speaker 1: But someone you do on some level you're.

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Speaker 2: Pouring your heart and as well. Obviously depends how far

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Speaker 2: the interaction is down the track, but it's it's pretty

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Speaker 2: much the most cowardly thing you can do to someone, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in terms of like yeah, breaking it, Yeah, there's that,

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Speaker 2: and then there's breaking up over text. You know. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of one like at least send them a message.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's still cowardly, but at least you

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Speaker 1: just let them know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a favor. I agree, But it's kind of

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Speaker 2: it's kind of inspired me because I love the Philippines

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Speaker 2: and I love the field. Tell me something about the Phlippines.

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Speaker 3: Was Annipacio is a politician there, and he was obviously

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Speaker 3: a famous boxer and Philippins they've got this sick restaurant

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Speaker 3: which is like on top of a building and then

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Speaker 3: it's all gardening up there.

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Speaker 2: Photos but I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: It's all it's like a garden on a roof.

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Speaker 2: Largest archapellago in the world, Philippines really, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good, second biggest one espirance w A no,

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Speaker 3: pretty good archipela go and you're impressed.

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Speaker 1: And you don't know it's a group of isolands.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I love what they've done there though. In

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Speaker 2: the Philippines, apart from being the largest archapella go in

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Speaker 2: the world, they're also willing to just you know, get

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Speaker 2: in there and call something that is, you know, traditionally

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Speaker 2: just a social faux pas. Just move it to an offense.

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Speaker 1: Stop people doing it.

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Speaker 2: So true, and I would like to take calls right now,

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Speaker 2: third and one and six five, which social faux pas

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Speaker 2: or just let's just call it a faux pas? Would

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Speaker 2: you like to see as an offense? Because I've got

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Speaker 2: an ivan over list they built on me quickly.

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Speaker 3: You know, when someone says to you, you know, when someone goes, oh,

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Speaker 3: are you free on Friday? Yeah, and then obviously you go, well,

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Speaker 3: they don't tell you what they want you for, and

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Speaker 3: then they make you lock in the fact that yes,

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Speaker 3: you are free, and then they hit you with a

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Speaker 3: really undesirable task that should be illegal.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you can you give me an example.

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Speaker 3: Someone goes, oh, ma, you're free Saturday, and I go, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm free all day Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Great, I'm moving. Can you help me move?

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Speaker 2: You dog?

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Speaker 1: And now I have no excuse, so I'm helping you.

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Speaker 1: That should that's illegal?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't mind that avocado and sandwich press for mine.

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Speaker 2: That you just shouldn't be able to put anything green

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Speaker 2: or fresh in a sandwich press. It gets hot, it

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Speaker 2: gets yuck, and it gives me the hebgba.

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Speaker 1: Mind a wilted spinach?

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Speaker 2: No spinach, one exception, not a bad point. What about

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Speaker 2: let us let us? I mean, avocado should never be

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Speaker 2: warmed as far as I'm concerned. No, you do, you do?

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: What about this belt?

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Speaker 3: You know, when you're sitting in a cafe and you

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Speaker 3: can see that someone on a table that you can

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Speaker 3: see has finished with the communal newspaper, they're finished reading,

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Speaker 3: they're eating their meal. Yeah, and they put the newspaper

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Speaker 3: just to the side on their table, but they don't

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Speaker 3: return it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you go?

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Speaker 3: And it's like, so, what are you expecting me to

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Speaker 3: walk over to you awkwardly yet done.

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Speaker 2: With your paper. It's a shocking moment.

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Speaker 1: And then double punishment if they go no, I'm not done.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well you're reading it.

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Speaker 2: Six five. What social faux pas should be criminalized? Should

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Speaker 2: be made illegal? What about not offering to leave someone's

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Speaker 2: house when they're in their pajamas? Willamoody one and six five?

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Speaker 2: Which social faux pas should be rendered an offense? What

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Speaker 2: should be made illegal? The Philippines are potentially making ghosting illegal.

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Speaker 2: I would like to begin with someone with dietary intolerances

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Speaker 2: devouring gluten and dairy filled cupcakes and then effectively fumigating

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Speaker 2: their communal workspace. I'm feeling attacked right before they have

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Speaker 2: to talk publicly.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling attacked.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling attacked person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I apologize about that, but shame was brought in

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Speaker 1: these delicious caramel cupcakes.

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Speaker 2: She knows I got a it's impossible stay away. We've

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Speaker 2: got some good ones calling up though. Max is called

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Speaker 2: in Max? What should be what should be illegal when

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Speaker 2: you're in traffic and the two lanes going to one

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Speaker 2: and you let someone in and they don't give you

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Speaker 2: the way you guys were talking about this before, Terrible Max.

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Speaker 2: If you want that love reciprocated, do you you need

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Speaker 2: to feel like you're getting gratitude? Do you?

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Speaker 1: Interesting?

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Speaker 2: I think that's the wrong way to love. But thanks

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Speaker 2: for the call.

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Speaker 1: No, you need some sort of acknowledgement, because because we all.

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Speaker 2: Went around exactly if we all went around going like

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Speaker 2: I want some appreciation for the fact that I've helped you.

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Speaker 2: That's a simple and that's a shocking way to go

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Speaker 2: about the world. Simple one, whatever it is, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: I think, I think, I think demanding reciprocity for generosity

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Speaker 2: is the wrong way to go about. What project you're

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Speaker 2: on it, that's fine, that's kind of fart on your

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Speaker 2: way through, if you don't mind. How about what about

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Speaker 2: when you order a round of beers when you're when

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Speaker 2: but someone in that round keeps ordering a twenty dollars cocktail.

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Speaker 1: You are attacking me, coming for me. I feel I

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Speaker 1: just feel.

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Speaker 2: Like you're so that every time you go around you know.

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Speaker 3: I love a nagroni and I'm sorry you boys getting

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Speaker 3: beers rules here.

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Speaker 1: I'll get a.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five dollars cocktail.

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Speaker 1: But no one makes that rule anyway.

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Speaker 2: Also, I want you cuffed in the bar.

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Speaker 1: The por needs to wait by the bar.

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Speaker 4: As well.

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Speaker 2: So there the beers, mate, the grony won't be five.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Avana here, Avana. What do you think

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Speaker 1: she made? Illgal?

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Speaker 2: Speaking on the phone when you're ordering a coffee?

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Speaker 1: Did that really?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Are you a barista that really gets up your goat?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm giving you my full attention.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, just just speak to me so phone now,

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Speaker 3: So will you put something a little nasty in the coffee?

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Speaker 1: If someone orders their coffee and here on the phone.

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Speaker 2: No, but you just want to be spoken to. I

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Speaker 2: used to be I totally get that. And then they

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Speaker 2: come in and like, you know, oh yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: they hate it when they don't get their coffee and

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Speaker 2: you're like, well, you're on the body, phone mate, didn't

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Speaker 2: hear me? I was yelling your name?

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Speaker 1: Focus, mate, focus?

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Speaker 2: What about? I mean? You wouldn't get this? But too

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Speaker 2: much hollandaise sauce on an eggs Benedict is murder for mine?

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Speaker 1: Can't you scrape a bit off?

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Speaker 2: No, because it gets everywhere and it gets getting the

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Speaker 2: soggy Yeah, and as soon as the yoke gets mixed in,

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Speaker 2: it's like a soup. Oh yeah. And I'm so scared

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Speaker 2: of it now that I have to get the Hollandais

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Speaker 2: on this site and nothing kills me more than doing that.

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Speaker 2: But but I do you feel a bit like that?

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Speaker 2: And they make a show of it, they bring it

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Speaker 2: out and they go Holandais on the side. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have to do this if you guys didn't marinate it

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Speaker 2: in Holland days back.

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Speaker 1: There some people, but some people would love it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone loves it. I think it's just

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Speaker 2: lazy Chefrey.

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Speaker 1: My partner would want to drink it up. She's a

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Speaker 2: Hale did get I don't know, you said it weird?

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Speaker 2: My partner would want to drink that up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, Hailey, what do you think she'd be

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Speaker 3: made illegal? I reckon when you just miss the call

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Speaker 3: from someone and you try and give them a call

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Speaker 3: back and they won't pick up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like where did you go?

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Speaker 2: You know when we extended to like Haley, would you

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Speaker 2: extend it to just people that call more than once

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Speaker 2: and it's not an emergency, Yeah, more than once? Telling

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Speaker 2: you try and call them back and they just don't

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Speaker 2: pick up. It's like, oh yeah, no, so that kills me.

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Speaker 2: But I also have situations like it's particularly with boomers,

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Speaker 2: but like my mum will call me four times in

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Speaker 2: a row and I'll go, geez, that's got to be urgent.

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Speaker 1: If I missed the first one, obviously I'm not on

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Speaker 1: my phone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I got to call it that and I go,

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Speaker 2: what's going on? It's like, oh, just seeing what are

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Speaker 2: you doing this weekend? If I'm not answering the first time,

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Speaker 2: you can just tax me as obviously I'm screening.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly, I'm busy. You're making it hard for

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Speaker 1: me to ignore you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And also then they reset your like expectation as well,

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Speaker 2: because then because when I say this to moum, like

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Speaker 2: when it's actually emergency, Yeah, when do I get five

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Speaker 2: calls from you? I don't think it's an emergency anymore.

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Speaker 1: Boy who Cried Wolf? Yeah, classic tale.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a classic tale.

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Speaker 1: Classic tale.

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Speaker 2: It's a classic tale. Love that very good.

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Speaker 1: Now you're done with that, why not check out more

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