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Speaker 1: Ohn. Hi guys, I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: It's player pla, Yes, welcome.

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Speaker 4: We've got a very special bonus episode for you today.

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Speaker 4: We are joined by the gorgeous uber talented and Fellows

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Speaker 4: and Babwan tin daished Tima. We're so excited to have

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Speaker 5: To have you on here.

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Speaker 4: We're just going to be talking to Tendai and before

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Speaker 4: we get into that, we gotta, you know, give her

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Speaker 4: receipts because people need the respect that they need, you know,

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Speaker 4: on these year streets.

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Speaker 5: So Tendaisha.

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Speaker 4: She graduated from the University of Cape Town with a

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Speaker 4: Bachelor of Arts in Film, Media and Writing and Drama.

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Speaker 4: I also believe she's study for her masters. But maybe

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Speaker 4: she can tell us a little bit about that, which

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Speaker 4: is for me mind blowing like juggling two fields.

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Speaker 5: She's been on some lead.

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Speaker 4: She's been a lead and a supporting actress on some

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Speaker 4: South African television shows from SABC one, two and three

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Speaker 4: and Ebony Live TV. And in twenty seventeen, she had

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Speaker 4: And it's you know, she has received awards as a

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Speaker 5: And I know she has some upcoming projects. So I

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Speaker 6: It was a mouthful because it's an amazing bio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 6: So much for that.

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Speaker 3: You're really like spotlighted me, and I'm really I was

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we need to be reminded of the journey, you know.

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Speaker 5: They don't understand totally fully. Yeah, for sure. You actually

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Speaker 4: You mentioned that the film industry or the entertainment industry

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Speaker 5: And it really that's what it meant, wasn't it no

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Speaker 2: So zim zim entertainment industry. I think the specific types.

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Speaker 2: It's mainly music. I feel like music has been very

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Speaker 3: So there's sort of people who've been able to take

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Speaker 7: I feel like they're a number of artists, sculptors, ye,

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Speaker 3: I think those two and then with film and TV

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Speaker 2: And so that's where our film industry was at that time.

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Speaker 2: You're doing it for your own course and your own

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Speaker 3: Just talk about this issue or whatever, but it's not

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Speaker 2: You could be even fantasy. It could be let's go

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Speaker 3: Know, like some random story about a dog who knows,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know politics or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It's just a story and with that liberty, like I said,

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Speaker 2: So that's a film and television and I'm sure some

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Speaker 3: call it it's a developing space.

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Speaker 2: But I think, like I said, the music industry in

452
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: Zim is a bit more further. I think a lot

453
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: the way. I mean, there's still so many artists who

454
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: are struggling.

455
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it's perfect, but I think you

456
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: have a lot more avenues I think to really reach

457
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 3: mass media, and now obviously with Netflix with film as well,

458
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: I think we have that avenue as well. As as

459
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: time is going to go on, you'll find that we're

460
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: going to have a lot more productions, you know, massively,

461
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: because I think that's the issue with how to create

462
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 3: a sustainable career. The more people have access to your work,

463
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 3: the better. So it's just about getting our entertainment industut

464
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: a place where we can really package our odds and

465
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 3: they are consumed by as many people as possible, not

466
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: just locally because the Marvel is a very small market,

467
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: but internationally, right, And the more people are consuming our work,

468
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: the more money we can make and the more the

469
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: higher our standards can be because we have that capital,

470
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: we have that and and yeah, I.

471
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Mean there's so much I can say.

472
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm really passionate about the entertain industry is about way.

473
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so much.

474
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 4: I know, I get that, and I think for for

475
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: for me, it's you've spoken, so you know, it's so

476
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 4: so true. And I think the embolvements are incredibly creative people,

477
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 4: and I feel like a lot of our creativity is

478
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: undermined because it doesn't fit into this is how it's

479
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: supposed to go, or that self expression isn't always really encouraged.

480
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: But like you said, sculptors in airports and like the

481
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: us like their work, you.

482
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 5: Know, things like that.

483
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: And you know, I think we really want to see

484
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 4: ourselves on the stage and have the you know, the

485
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 4: opportunity and the platform so that we can see more

486
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: of ourselves.

487
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 5: There because I really truly believe we are some of

488
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 5: the most creative people. And I'm biased, of course, but

489
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 5: you know.

490
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 6: That it's true. For sure, it is true. It is true.

491
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: So you mentioned for right and right, Yes, yes, yes,

492
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: that is sure.

493
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: That is a amazing above and writers out there as well.

494
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people are curious to actually read like what

495
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: looks like or.

496
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 6: Even just immerse themselves into the story.

497
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: Anyway, how hard did it happen that Cookof became the

498
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: first Zimbabwean film to make it on Netflix?

499
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: So it's a long story.

500
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if you all know that the first

501
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: release where I met Rumby it was actually twenty seventeen, right,

502
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: and I think at that time the director and producer

503
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: Thomas and Joe. I think they they did have a

504
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: bigger vision of they wanted the film to go onto

505
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 3: a bigger platform, but I don't know if they.

506
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: Actually knew how and when and what like.

507
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: So itand seventeen, we all we all watched Cookoff, you know,

508
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: in a private screening, and I was I.

509
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: Was just like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that's me.

510
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 4: You are amazing, you were amazing, and like it was

511
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: such a special sorry too, but it was such a

512
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: special I remember being then and the energy and just

513
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 4: like I think as as viewers were watching this, like yes,

514
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: we can do this quality of entertainment, which is just

515
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: sharing our stories.

516
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 6: It was.

517
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: It was it was special for sure, Thank you.

518
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: So much for me. That was it was a special night.

519
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: And and so we all then just dispersed, and you know,

520
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: we all went our ways. And then I remember Thomas

521
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: and and Joe telling me that we're going to have

522
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 3: like a tour, like a festival tour. So we all

523
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: did the festival tour thing. I mean some of the

524
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: some of the places we couldn't go to because we

525
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: didn't have funding. So some of the screenings I was

526
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: able to attend, and.

527
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: Then that was it.

528
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: So twenty eighteen went by, and then two I was

529
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: a nineteen also went by, and then at the end

530
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen into twenty twenty twenty twenty, there was

531
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: a Pan African Film Festival that was happening, and I was.

532
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Able to go with both on a show and Kokov.

533
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: But then.

534
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: That's around about that time as well, and like it

535
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: was January twenty twenty, and Thomas started saying some really

536
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: interesting stuff to be because like, ohta that we're in

537
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: talks with somebody, and I'm like, oh, you're in talks

538
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: with somebody, okay, And you know, it's been two years

539
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: since I've really heard anything substantial. It's just we've been

540
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 3: going to festivals. I wasn't even sure who were talking about.

541
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I trust y'all. Whatever you

542
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: guys are going to do, do it.

543
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: And you said, you know, we need to do a

544
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: photo shoot forward this person that.

545
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: We've been talking about, not that person, but we've been

546
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: talking to some you know, distributors, and we need to

547
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: do a photo shoot so that you know, we're compiling

548
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: like promo stuff, come come through and do it.

549
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Whatever, and so I would.

550
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: Go and and I just played a lot because I

551
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: wasn't really sure what's going to great and then but

552
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: he seemed very excited.

553
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: But then I was busy, Like I said, I went

554
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles. It was just fantastic. I was busy

555
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: doing my own thing.

556
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: And then COVID hits as well, So like, I think,

557
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: there was so much going on that I actually almost

558
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: low key kind of forgot about what Thomas had been saying,

559
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: and I was going through my own days.

560
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: And then in May that's when they decided.

561
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: To tell Today and Guni and I ten Diamond and

562
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: I and tell us that it was Netflix, and you're

563
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: it was one of the most I was so shocked.

564
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: I you know, I've been watching I've been watching Netflix

565
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: for a while now, right, and so for me to

566
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: actually think that I would be able to go into Netflix,

567
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: onto Netflix and like see myself inside Netflix, that's.

568
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Speaker 5: How is yeah.

569
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Speaker 6: Wow?

570
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: And just the number of people who are going to

571
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: be able to access the film that for me and

572
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: virtually have been a Zimbabwean film, you know, because that

573
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: for me was even it was special, so special for

574
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: me because there was a time when I didn't think

575
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: that I would make it as as Embobwian actress.

576
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: I thought I would have to. You know a lot

577
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: of people end up moving to the States or you.

578
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: Kind of adapt to South Africa and you know, you're

579
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: not necessarily sumbawen.

580
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: It's more like maybe it's a Africa production and.

581
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: Would take you to where you want to go, or

582
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: like a Hollywood production would brave be a breakout role.

583
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: So I was just so happy.

584
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: So that's how it happened, is that they managed to negotiate.

585
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: I think they found a connection.

586
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: At Netflix and then they were able to negotiate and

587
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: get Cookoff for Netflix.

588
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: It was a long journey, but I'm.

589
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: So grateful for their disavererance and their tenacity because it

590
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: wasn't an easy journey to be on, but they did it.

591
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: And I'm so proud.

592
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Yes you should be, because I mean for you two

593
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: you were in you obviously med roomby in Zim, and

594
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: then for some of us were not in Zim.

595
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Speaker 6: It was just amazing because you had no idea.

596
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Obviously, that's another thing you just said about accessibility and

597
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: even just media being able to in twenty seventeen when

598
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the film came out and Zim even if you weren't.

599
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: In Ziom, you wouldn't know about it.

600
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: You would just be like, oh okay, maybe your cousins

601
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: would mention now into a premier or whatever, you know.

602
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: But like we actually did see it, so accessibility, as

603
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: you said, is so important because.

604
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Speaker 6: Then the rest of us we caught on.

605
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Late and we were like, oh my god, this movie,

606
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: Like it was such a full circle moment even for

607
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: YouTube to be like we saw this and to see

608
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: it come there and the rest of us to enjoy

609
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: it just the same.

610
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: It was beautiful. And I think what was fascinating when

611
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: like my friends like in the US sort of like

612
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 4: you should watch cook Off zim It's coming on. It's

613
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: on Netflix. I'm like I know, and like you know,

614
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: but it was also like it was such a also

615
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: for me, like oh my goodness, I'm so happy to

616
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: see that come to life. And I think Robwen's the

617
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: world over foult this moment of pride, because I think

618
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: when people think of creators or countries, they always think of,

619
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: you know, Nigeria, and then South Africa. It's like, you know,

620
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: and then may be Kenya, but like there's no like Zimbabwe.

621
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: We feel some type of way, you know, sometimes because

622
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: we're not always given the platform. And so that was

623
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: such a beautiful, beautiful moment and I love that you

624
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 4: can represents as a Zimbabwean on that. Are there any

625
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: fellows Zimbabwean actress, actresses that inspire you, have inspired your

626
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: journey that you look up to. You work with some

627
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: incredible people even on cook Off, So is there anyone

628
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: like you know that who you really look up to?

629
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 2: Definitely?

630
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: I think I'll just some with the last point you

631
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: had about working with amazing people.

632
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I literally studied.

633
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Remember when I decided to add film as a major,

634
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: we watched scenario at your CT as part of the

635
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: curriculum courses, you know, and for me that was so special. Again,

636
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: if I sitting there, I'm probably the onlyest involvement in.

637
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: The whole.

638
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: University theater and we're watching his inbolvement film.

639
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: And if you told me then that day that.

640
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: Oh you're going to be acting with this woman you

641
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: know years later and you've got to be a Netflix.

642
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have believe it. But you know,

643
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: acting with just says knowing that it was my first

644
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: film as well, so it was so special, like just.

645
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: Someone I looked up to someone I studied their work,

646
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 3: someone I who really inspired me as a as a

647
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: woman in the industry, and then acting with them, and

648
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: now she's.

649
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: So full of wisdom.

650
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: And also she was married to Charles Mungoshi, whose books

651
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: I had read remember when I was still in high school,

652
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: full like in love with literature, and so it was

653
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: just so special for me. And then obviously there are

654
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: the other iconic people that have been acting in Hollywood

655
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: that like Grida, there's Tangy Newton as well, who's half Zimbabwan.

656
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: But the people you look at and you're like wow,

657
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: I think for me, I must just say I struggled

658
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: a lot with.

659
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: The issue of do I need to be elsewhere to

660
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: make it?

661
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: You know? So even though I'm inspired by you know,

662
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: Lupita Nyongo or the Ni Grida, all these African talented

663
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: women who are in Hollywood, I always think to myself,

664
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: am I going to have to go there? And what

665
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: if I'm not able to? Does that mean my dreams

666
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: won't come true?

667
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Or I don't have a

668
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: nakay you know what I mean, Like I wasn't born

669
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: day or and so it's always.

670
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: This like like when you're dreaming and you're saying to yourself,

671
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: my journey is going to be different from everybody else.

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Speaker 3: So though I'm inspired, I need to understand that my

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Speaker 3: story is not the same as them, and I need

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Speaker 3: to be able to embrace where I'm at and embrace

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Speaker 3: who I am and be inspired by what they've been

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Speaker 3: able to do, but know that I'm going to have

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Speaker 3: to do something different and be someone different where I

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Speaker 3: am right now in Africa, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so yeah, I'm truly inspired, and I've woke

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Speaker 3: to work with all of them, like Nani and Peter.

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Speaker 3: I'm always imagining myself like, oh my gosh, I won't

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Speaker 3: know what kind of movie it would be.

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Speaker 6: It will be beautiful, it would be it.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, so connected to your sentiments about do I have

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Speaker 4: to leave or have to follow a similar path as

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Speaker 4: other people in order to do what I I believe

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Speaker 4: I'm supposed to do, And I think honestly, like you know,

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00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: God works in ways where he's like and God, the universe,

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Speaker 4: whoever you want to call, works in ways. It's like

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Speaker 4: it's supposed to look different because then it's supposed to

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Speaker 4: be your journey and it's supposed to. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how to explain it. It's something that I've really had to,

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Speaker 4: you know, try and grasp because if we all had

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Speaker 4: the same thing, like, then what is it there?

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Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't make it unique.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, like we're rooting for you, and I really believe.

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Speaker 5: That, you know, things are changing. I really feel there's

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Speaker 5: a shifty.

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Speaker 1: Really there's a definite shift. Yeah, we talk about this

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Speaker 1: all the time right now.

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Speaker 6: There's a movement.

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Speaker 1: So even seeing hearing you saying the movie with Lupita

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Speaker 1: and then I'm like, yeah, I can see that.

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not even it's not even for me,

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Speaker 1: it's not even that far fetched, Like it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course it's going to happen.

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Speaker 6: So definitely there's a big shift.

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Speaker 3: We claim it there.

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Speaker 1: So do you have any current or upcoming projects that

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Speaker 1: you want to share with us that you're working on

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Speaker 1: or coming out soon?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, at the moment, i am, I'm featuring on.

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Speaker 2: A couple of shows on Show Max and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: enjoy it's upcoming. It's coming soon, coming.

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Speaker 3: Out internationally soon that the premiere they had it in

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles, which just fantastic. So they're just not planning

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Speaker 3: the release date for for the rest of the world.

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Speaker 3: But I'm also looking forward to a couple of projects

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Speaker 3: that are coming up.

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Speaker 2: And I can't tell you what they are.

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Okay, so you just

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Speaker 5: gonna leave us hanging.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to maybe maybe there's an idea movie

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Speaker 1: and we don't even know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are already done, did it, you know?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, But one, the one that I can mention, I'm

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Speaker 8: said to be in a collaboration, a collaborate, a film

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Speaker 8: collaboration between Nigeria and Bobble.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'll say. Yeah, so cool.

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Speaker 3: So they're still they're doing the pre production and I'm

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Speaker 3: really excited about it. And then the other one I

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Speaker 3: can't mention. I just won't mention, but it's going to

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Speaker 3: be so exciting. You're all going to be so proud again,

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Speaker 3: so proud of them. But they're still working on it

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Speaker 3: and they're going to make it as special as possible

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Speaker 3: for everybody.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll be watching, So don't you worry.

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Speaker 3: Yay, thank you for your support, ladies, Like I'm so

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Speaker 3: so encouraged and it's so I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: always so good to to find that people the work

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Speaker 3: that you're doing is making an impact and that people

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Speaker 3: are actually inspired and that they're also, you know, so

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Speaker 3: excited about your work.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really great this morning. It's been so special

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Speaker 2: so far, so excited.

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Speaker 5: We're so glad that you could take the time to

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Speaker 5: be with it. I think I feel so relate.

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Speaker 4: You're so relatable, like and meeting you in person was

750
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: the very same thing, like, you know, and that's what

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Speaker 4: we want to show the world that like we are

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Speaker 4: just like normal people and we have normal different and

753
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 4: dreams and goals and aspirations, and we're doing incredible, incredible work.

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Speaker 4: So thank you so much for taking the time. And

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Speaker 4: I where can people keep up with you so that

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Speaker 4: when you drop the gyms and you really the project,

757
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: when you spill the team, you spill the team where

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Speaker 4: you at so people can find you awesome.

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Speaker 3: I'm mainly focusing on my Instagram at the moment, so

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Speaker 3: finally at tonight UNDERSCOOLMA T A D A, I underschool

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Speaker 3: c H I T I M E and then I

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Speaker 3: do I am active ontogen on again. But it's the

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Speaker 3: same handle at tonight Underscore. So those are my two

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Speaker 3: main like announce sway platforms.

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Speaker 4: Them in the in the show and the description and everything.

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Speaker 2: What's thank you?

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Speaker 4: Any final thoughts Amanda that you want to share?

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Speaker 1: This has been so so good for me. Like I

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Speaker 1: just think like sometimes and you said it yourself, sometimes

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Speaker 1: fulfeel the need to leave to conquer their dreams. But

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Speaker 1: you're like living, breathing example that it isn't always the case,

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Speaker 1: but doesn't mean that you have to stop.

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Speaker 6: And also late bloomers, because I think people always think.

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Speaker 1: From a young age you got to know where you're going,

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Speaker 1: what you're doing, what you but.

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Speaker 6: Like look at you and like it totally worked.

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Speaker 1: And I think I find you so inspiring because and

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Speaker 1: even as a woman, the fact that she still took

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Speaker 1: a chance on you, and all I can say is

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Speaker 1: keep going and thank you.

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Speaker 6: Were so honored that she came on our podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me guys, thank you Amanda for a.

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Speaker 5: Word yes, and thank you.

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Speaker 4: I mean she took the words right, Like honestly, what

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Speaker 4: more can we say? You will be rooting for you,

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Speaker 4: supporting you, cheering you on.

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Speaker 5: Because thank you.

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Speaker 4: You know we're we're big fans of your work. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much everybody for listening to another episode of

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Speaker 4: It's Layered. As always, you can find us on Instagram

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Speaker 4: It's Layered I T s l A y E r

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Speaker 4: e D. And you can email us your thoughts of

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Speaker 4: y E r E D Pod p O D at

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Speaker 4: gmail dot com. And yeah, share the support. Who what

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Speaker 4: are the Zimbabwean actresses and entertainers are inspire you? Let

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Speaker 4: us know and we'll see you in the next episode.

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Speaker 1: And if you haven't watched cook Off, make sure to

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Speaker 1: watch it.

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Speaker 5: It's coming for y'all. It's on Netflix on Netflix.

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Speaker 4: I mean all right, thank you so much, take care

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Speaker 4: and see you soon.

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Speaker 5: Bye everybody, Bye, little

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Speaker 2: Well use your eye