WEBVTT - Are you a lion, a bear or a wolf and why does it matter? 🦁

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thought of, perhaps hoped, there's a magic

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<v Speaker 1>pill to help you lose weight. Well, the bad news is,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately there's not. But the good news is I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>to answer all of your questions to make your weight

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<v Speaker 1>loss journey just that little bit easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do some people's bodies transform quicker than others.

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<v Speaker 3>What would be some of the best advice that you

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<v Speaker 3>could offer in regards to the menopausal mound.

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<v Speaker 4>I've reduced the carbs in my diet and I'm also

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<v Speaker 4>exercising regularly, but I'm not losing weight. What could be

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<v Speaker 4>actually going wrong?

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<v Speaker 5>What is it about the strength training that helps with

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<v Speaker 5>weight loss?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be answering these questions a little later on.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the Wood Life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sam Wood, and we're answering real questions from real

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<v Speaker 1>people about real life.

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<v Speaker 6>So what if I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something you do every day and if you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>it improves your memory, lowers your risk of heart disease,

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<v Speaker 1>and makes you look younger. All you need is a

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<v Speaker 1>good night's sleep. Easier said than done, I know, But

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<v Speaker 1>next we have Australia's number one sleep expert to help

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<v Speaker 1>us get the best night's sleep we've had in years.

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Arossoula is australias number one sleep expert and author

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<v Speaker 1>of the book Bear, Lion, and Wolf, which are three

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<v Speaker 1>different sleep chronotypes. If you don't know what category you

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<v Speaker 1>fall into, or even what a sleep chronotype is, well

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<v Speaker 1>she's here to explain it and here to get us

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<v Speaker 1>better sleep. Olivia, thank you so much for joining us

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<v Speaker 1>here on the WOODLFE.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me so.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, if you could give our Woodlife listeners

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<v Speaker 1>your top tips to improve their quality of sleep, what

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<v Speaker 1>would they be? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Number one would be take chronotype specific sleep strategies into account. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I know a lot of you know websites because I've googled.

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<v Speaker 5>Trust me, they give sleep strategies, but they don't take

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<v Speaker 5>into account your chronotype and this can make a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is exactly why I wrote my book on

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<v Speaker 5>the concept of chronotypes. See what is right for a

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<v Speaker 5>lion to do at ten pm, for example, in their

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<v Speaker 5>bedtime routine is different to what a wolf or a

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<v Speaker 5>bear should do. For example, at ten pm, lions should

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<v Speaker 5>be going to bed. However, at ten pm wolves and

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<v Speaker 5>bears should not be going to bed. It does not

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<v Speaker 5>correlate with their circadian rhythm, and it is going to

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<v Speaker 5>lead to bedtime resistance and actually discount the quality of

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<v Speaker 5>their sleep when they do fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Asleep outside going and buying your book, which I highly

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<v Speaker 1>recommend as I have it at home and it's absolutely fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>How do people find out quickly and easily if they

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<v Speaker 1>are align a wolf or a bear?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely so. I've got three key questions. Okay, when given

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<v Speaker 5>the option, what time would you like to wake up?

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<v Speaker 5>A before six am, B around seven am or C

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<v Speaker 5>after eight am. Question two, when given the option, what

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<v Speaker 5>time would you like to fall asleep? A? Ten pm,

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<v Speaker 5>B around eleven C after midnight? And three, when do

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<v Speaker 5>you find yourself the most productive? A before midday, B

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<v Speaker 5>between ten and two pm or three. The later it

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<v Speaker 5>gets in the day, the more productive you become. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>the more a's you get, the more likely you are

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<v Speaker 5>a lion, which is me by the way, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's you as well, and we're great.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a line.

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<v Speaker 1>I was answering the questions as when alone, I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a line.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, B makes you a bear, which is like my mum,

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<v Speaker 5>and I love bears. If you've got mostly c's then

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<v Speaker 5>you are a wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what happens if you've got a line and

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<v Speaker 1>a wolf in the same bed is are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to get divorced?

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<v Speaker 5>No? No, definitely not.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I'm married to a wolf, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm a line as you are. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you've given that little tool because our listeners will

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<v Speaker 1>go right. I can take two minutes now to put

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<v Speaker 1>down my as, my bees, mysas, work out what I am.

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<v Speaker 1>But you prefaced each of those multiple choice questions with

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<v Speaker 1>if given the choice, which I love that you did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my little Charlie, who we call Charlie Bear funny enough,

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<v Speaker 1>wakes up at five thirty five am every single morning,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we put her to bed at six seven, if

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<v Speaker 1>we let us stay out parting till midnight, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course we don't do, but if we did, it would

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<v Speaker 1>not matter. We go to Perth. There's a time difference

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Five point thirty five am is her wake

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<v Speaker 1>up time. And it's just this uncanny thing that, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what we seem to do. So when you say

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<v Speaker 1>if given the choice, we aren't given the choice.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's my wife is.

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<v Speaker 1>Pregnant and I am the one getting up to look

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<v Speaker 1>after little Charlie beer and playing games with ear all

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<v Speaker 1>morning till the rest of the civilized people in the

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<v Speaker 1>world wake up and join us. So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do if you're not given the choice?

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<v Speaker 5>There are definitely ways that you can shift into an

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<v Speaker 5>earlier or later chronotype should you need. Using light is

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<v Speaker 5>one of the best tools that you can use because

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<v Speaker 5>light is our primary zitegiber, which means our primary factor

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<v Speaker 5>to control your succadian rhythm, which ultimately controls how sleepy

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<v Speaker 5>you are in the evening and how alert you are

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<v Speaker 5>in the morning. See for example, you are a wolf

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<v Speaker 5>who's usually a late chronotype, but you need to get

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<v Speaker 5>up at you know, five point thirty because you're darling

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<v Speaker 5>little one designs that that's a great time to be awake.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you can use the light to your advantage. That

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<v Speaker 5>would be through exposing yourself to bright sunlight. On a

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<v Speaker 5>similar level, blocking out light in the evening by wearing

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<v Speaker 5>blue light blocking glasses. Blocking out light in the evening

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<v Speaker 5>is again going to be your number one way that

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<v Speaker 5>you are going to find it easier to fall asleep earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife Sajana will hate that I'm saying this out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>but not really. But she is one of these people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you've come across the many times that

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<v Speaker 1>is animate that she doesn't need that much sleep. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine five hours, six hours, not at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>while she's pregnant, but when she's not pregnant, she she's.

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<v Speaker 6>A night out.

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<v Speaker 1>But when people say they don't need much sleep, are

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<v Speaker 1>they right? Are there some people that don't need much sleep?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are they actually kidding themselves and they're doing themselves

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<v Speaker 1>a huge disservice but not getting enough?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay to this, I answer yes and no. Okay, let

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<v Speaker 5>me explain a little bit. So ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 5>the population needs seven to nine hours of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the magic number that that was gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>next question, seven to nine.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>However, ninety percent isn't one hundred percent. There is a

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<v Speaker 5>small subset of individuals who actually need less sleep, and

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<v Speaker 5>this is linked back to genetics. There is a gene

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<v Speaker 5>called DEC two which individuals with a particular morphism of

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<v Speaker 5>this gene need only six point twenty five hours to

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<v Speaker 5>feel refreshed in the morning. So that's the yes column. However,

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<v Speaker 5>the no column. So research shows that lack of sleep

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<v Speaker 5>impairs your frontal lobe. Your frontal lobe is responsible for

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<v Speaker 5>decision making and judgment. So if you have impaired judgment,

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<v Speaker 5>you aren't aware that you are perhaps being unproductive, or

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<v Speaker 5>making mistakes or acting out of character because you think

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<v Speaker 5>you're being fine, because there's actually an impairment in your

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<v Speaker 5>frontal lobe so much so that a lack of sleep

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<v Speaker 5>can actually make you behave as if you have a

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<v Speaker 5>blood alcohol level of zero point zero five, which is

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<v Speaker 5>technically drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go, right, And that's a vicious cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. You don't get enough sleep, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the awareness you haven't got enough sleep, and the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>goes around and around and living drunk your entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly right, you're saying they're living. So let's break it

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<v Speaker 1>down to our wood Life listeners, because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the natural follow up question then would be, so how

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<v Speaker 1>do I know if I'm in.

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<v Speaker 6>That five percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Because my fear is the one hundred percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that tell you this would tell you they're in

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<v Speaker 1>that five percent, and that is absolutely not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the case.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, So I think if you were not in that

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<v Speaker 5>five percent, that you would be exhibiting the seven key

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<v Speaker 5>signs of sleep deprivation. So obviously this one goes without

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<v Speaker 5>saying making mistakes. As mentioned before, a lack of sleep

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<v Speaker 5>impairs your frontal lobe, which is responsible for a decision

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<v Speaker 5>making judgment. It's also responsible for concentration and attention. So

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<v Speaker 5>if you're finding that you're making little mistakes when you

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<v Speaker 5>are sleep deprived or when you are, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 5>less than seven to nine hours of sleep, chances are

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<v Speaker 5>you need to get more sleep outside of this. Feeling fatigued,

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<v Speaker 5>this one is quite obvious, but to understand that seventy

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<v Speaker 5>percent of human growth hormone, the key catalyst for cellu

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<v Speaker 5>the repair is produced in solow wave sl means that

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<v Speaker 5>if you're not getting enough sleep, then naturally you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to be feeling super exhausted, even if you've had your

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<v Speaker 5>sleep that you think you need. Brain fog is the

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<v Speaker 5>next one that I've highlighted. A lack of productivity is

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<v Speaker 5>another one. A twenty seventeen study found that when you

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<v Speaker 5>are sleeping less than five hours, you are four times

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<v Speaker 5>less productive. However, remember it's unlikely that you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be aware of it, so that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A really interesting one because I used to train lots

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<v Speaker 1>of successful business people, and there's almost a culture of

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<v Speaker 1>it too, of I'll sleep when I'm dead, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being flippant, but you know, I'll sleep when I'm dead

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm building my empire, And isn't that interesting That effectively,

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<v Speaker 1>the science suggests that it's the exact opposite. You are

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<v Speaker 1>losing productivity, and I think, you know, there's the term

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<v Speaker 1>in business, works matter, not harder, And I often think

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<v Speaker 1>these people, unless they are in that very rare five percent,

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<v Speaker 1>need to just sort of listen to this advice. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of self awareness needed for this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing too, because a lot of these symptoms or behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>that need to be recognized that you're suggesting. I often

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<v Speaker 1>would think some people would be perhaps showing these signs

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<v Speaker 1>and not self aware enough or maybe perhaps just too

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<v Speaker 1>damn stubborn to admit that they're actually happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, And I think the thing is that it's very

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<v Speaker 5>normal to be foggy and fatigued. It's very it's just

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<v Speaker 5>passed off as I'm exhausted. It's you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 5>it's Monday. Of course I'm exhausted. But it's not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a really good point too. It's not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you've only ever felt like that, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what normal feels like? Absolutely, you've given me

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<v Speaker 1>for I think we've got three to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Can please keep going?

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<v Speaker 5>Another key sign of lack of proper sleep is anxiety. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this one is huge across our society. Stress hormone cortisol

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<v Speaker 5>increases by thirty seven percent after one night of inadequate sleep.

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<v Speaker 5>This leaves you feeling wired, being unable to switch off,

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<v Speaker 5>and mentally ruminating, particularly in the evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it I'm recognizing these things right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's actually a lack of awareness about how

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<v Speaker 5>significant sleeplessness is a problem. Like if you genuinely knew

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<v Speaker 5>that your stress hormone was going to increase by thirty

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<v Speaker 5>seven percent if you get less than seven hours of

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<v Speaker 5>sleep that night, I don't think many people would be

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<v Speaker 5>willing to take that gamble. Nobody wants to feel anxious, restless,

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<v Speaker 5>like they can't switch off.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's also a consequence to that. It's harder to

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight when there's cartersol in your system as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Say so, I think a lot of people that I

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<v Speaker 1>speak to that obviously on a weight loss journey. It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting when I say to them it actually will prevent

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<v Speaker 1>you or slow down your weight loss or fat loss,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, hang on, why didn't you say that

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. Now, perhaps I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit more attention.

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<v Speaker 5>And absolutely the next one actually links back to exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what you're saying, weight gain and sugar cravings. This means

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<v Speaker 5>that you are hungrier, less satisfied when you do it,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're specifically craving sugar. I'll add in when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to weight loss or fat loss. Another clinical study

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<v Speaker 5>found that when you are sleeping eight point five hours,

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<v Speaker 5>you lose fifty five percent more body fat than if

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<v Speaker 5>you are on exactly the same calories and expending the

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<v Speaker 5>same amount of energy compared to if you were sleeping

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<v Speaker 5>five point five hours.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We look at the science of calories in calories out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is important, but to think that that sleep variation

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<v Speaker 1>of three hours can have such an impact on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think will be a really power And again, this

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<v Speaker 1>is about giving people the information so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>look at their own personal situation and reflect perhaps that

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that they need to address. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to give more, put more effort into I love that

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<v Speaker 1>you've given seven things that people need to look out

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<v Speaker 1>for to see that if they are experiencing all or

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<v Speaker 1>some of those seven, they fall into that ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>percent category that does need the adequate amount of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>My next question is a follow on from amount of sleep.

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<v Speaker 6>What about quality of sleep?

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<v Speaker 5>Quality? Trump's quantity? Okay, so you can be having a

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<v Speaker 5>low quality eight hours, but you can be having a

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<v Speaker 5>high quality six hours, and you can actually feel more

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<v Speaker 5>refreshed after high quality six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I know when I wake up if I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a good or a bad night sleep?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay? There are definitely ways you can track it, for

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<v Speaker 5>example using a wearable or an app. However, wearables are

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<v Speaker 5>more reliable, so of the two, I would prefer a wearable.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 5>Outside of that, you can use a sleep diary. It

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<v Speaker 5>just asks you the key questions which are going to

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<v Speaker 5>indicate to you if you have had quality sleep. For example,

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<v Speaker 5>how refreshed do you feel upon waking? How many times

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<v Speaker 5>did you wake through the night, how is your levels

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<v Speaker 5>of mental clarity? These are all key signs that you

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<v Speaker 5>either have or have not had that quality sleep you need.

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<v Speaker 1>We've actually got a call on one of our Woodlife

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and you actually brought up the challenge that this

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<v Speaker 1>person faces before this is Gabby, and she send us

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<v Speaker 1>in a quick question Olivia that I'd love you to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to and let me know if you've got some

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<v Speaker 1>advice for Gabby.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a nurse that works a lot of shift work

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<v Speaker 4>with late afternoons and night shifts.

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<v Speaker 3>Jevy'suggestions of how I want to get into a sleep

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<v Speaker 3>routine while still working shift work at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so for shift work is in particular, there are

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<v Speaker 5>two recommendations for you guys. One, I recommend using melatonin

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<v Speaker 5>right of course, or see your health professional first to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure it is right for you, but that has

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<v Speaker 5>been a great supplement for daytime sleeps. And the second

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<v Speaker 5>recommendation specific for shift workers is on the last night

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<v Speaker 5>of shift work, I advise only sleeping for a maximum

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<v Speaker 5>of three hours in the morning and then having a

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<v Speaker 5>nap for thirty or ninety minutes later in the day,

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<v Speaker 5>provided that it's not later than three point thirty. What

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<v Speaker 5>this is going to do is it's going to retrain

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<v Speaker 5>your body to get into its more regular sleep pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that those are sleep tips specific for shift workers. However,

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<v Speaker 5>I do have a signature bedtime routine that I recommend

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<v Speaker 5>for all of your woodlife listeners. And this is chronotype specific,

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<v Speaker 5>so whether you are a lion, bear or wolf, you

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<v Speaker 5>do need to tweak this depending on your chronotype. However,

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<v Speaker 5>as a BLAE rule, the signature bedtime routine is to

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<v Speaker 5>block out blue light using blue light glasses, use lavender

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<v Speaker 5>oil capsules, to have a good night phone alarm, which

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<v Speaker 5>is an alarm that pops up one hour before bed,

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<v Speaker 5>which reminds you to disconnect from tech, to have a

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<v Speaker 5>shower before bed, to use a magnesium based sleep supplement,

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<v Speaker 5>to read or meditate, and to use an imask.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed you didn't mention eating copious amounts of M

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<v Speaker 1>and m's and binge watching Oazac on Netflix, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really surprising because I thought that was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>your next tip. And look, I've learned a lot of Livia,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that we could dive into this for

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<v Speaker 1>hours and hours and hours and for our WOODLFE listeners

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<v Speaker 1>that would like to get their hands on your book,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to give you the name of your

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<v Speaker 1>book one more time.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I would be honored if any of your wood

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<v Speaker 5>Life listeners picked up a copy of Bear Lion Wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you so much, Olivia. We have learnt

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<v Speaker 1>so much about sleep, which is obviously a critical factor

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<v Speaker 1>for every single one of our listeners. And hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk to you again soon. But thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for those little birds are.

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<v Speaker 5>Wisdom, pleasure, pleasure, pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it amazing how many simple tips to get a

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<v Speaker 1>good night's sleep there are and you're just not doing

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<v Speaker 1>any or many of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm going to go off.

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<v Speaker 1>And by myself a face mask after this, but up next,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to answer all of your weight loss questions. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>losing weight, it would absolutely be the thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>get asked about the most, Sam, How do I lose weight?

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's five kilos or fifty kilos, It's what everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know, and it's not surprising because most of us, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>are overweight. In Western society, sixty percent of us overweight

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<v Speaker 1>or obese, so it's no surprise that everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>lose a few or a few more than a few kilos.

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<v Speaker 1>There's really two sides to it. There's the physical side

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<v Speaker 1>of things, the science side of things. You know, calories

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<v Speaker 1>in versus calories out, and if I burn more than

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<v Speaker 1>I consume, I'm going to drop weight. That's the science

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But then there's the psychology of it, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>how am I going to stick to this so that

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<v Speaker 1>all of that happens healthily and consistently. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>the psychological side of things. And that comes back to

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<v Speaker 1>what is your why. You need to know what your

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<v Speaker 1>why is because you can say to yourself, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to lose weight or I need to lose weight.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell yourself why, it's highly unlikely and i'd nearly say

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<v Speaker 1>impossible for that routine to stick. So it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is we're going to face challenges when we

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to lose weight. It's not easy. If it

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<v Speaker 1>was easy, we wouldn't all be overweight. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that why, you're just not going to stick

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Because when we face those challenges, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't remind yourself of why it is that you're doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>simply gonna stop doing it. So I just want you

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<v Speaker 1>to keep that in mind because we're going to answer

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<v Speaker 1>some of our listeners weight loss questions, which I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to do. But I just want you to

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<v Speaker 1>keep in the back of your head this is all

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<v Speaker 1>well and good, but what is your why? And is

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<v Speaker 1>it written up somewhere so when things get tough you

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<v Speaker 1>can go back and remind yourself. So our first weight

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<v Speaker 1>loss question is Lauren, take it away, Lauren.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do some people's bodies transform quicker than others when

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<v Speaker 2>following a similar or the same plan. Does it depend

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<v Speaker 2>on how long we've carried extra weight on our bodies

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps less muscle mass or muscle memory, or is

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<v Speaker 2>it more likely to be due to genetics or a

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<v Speaker 2>hormone balance.

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<v Speaker 1>So one part of the question there from Lauren was

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<v Speaker 1>about muscle mass and muscle memory. I would say it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really about muscle memory, but it's definitely about muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>The more lean muscle you have, the faster you burn fat,

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<v Speaker 1>or the more efficiently your metabolism works, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>men often lose more weight than women or lose weight

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<v Speaker 1>faster than women. So that is a big tick. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also why if you are trying to lose weight that

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<v Speaker 1>resistance training should be a part of that process, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you are then toning and strengthening and building lean muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking about getting all big and bulky.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about lean, toned.

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<v Speaker 1>Long muscles that will in fact turbocharge your weight loss process.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's the hormone side of things and the genetic

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<v Speaker 1>side of things, which is absolutely a factor. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is where I may be controversial, but I definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's as big a factor as some people think

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I feel some people like to how do

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<v Speaker 1>I put this sensitively? I absolutely don't want people to think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get it, mate, that's so insensitive, because it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is everybody if they follow the program

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<v Speaker 1>ten out of ten and I'm not suggesting you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do that on all that progress not perfection, but everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>if they do follow the perfect eating plan and they

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<v Speaker 1>exercise meticulously and consistently and hard, will lose weight. I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you. I've been doing this for twenty two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with fifteen twenty thousand clients. They have all

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<v Speaker 1>lost weight one hundred out of one hundred if they've

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<v Speaker 1>followed the program. What happens is we start to think

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<v Speaker 1>about the hormone side of things, and think about the

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<v Speaker 1>genetics side things. It's definitely harder as you get older.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely harder for some people with different genetics, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean it's impossible. And I think what so

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<v Speaker 1>many of us do is we blame the genetics or

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<v Speaker 1>we blame the hormones, and it means we don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>follow the program at ten out of ten or for

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<v Speaker 1>long enough to see the result, and then it's just

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<v Speaker 1>too easy for the scapegoat of the hormones or the

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<v Speaker 1>genetics to be the out that perhaps we're looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be different for everybody, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>we say, don't compare. Your journey is your journey. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry what Jenny's over there is doing, or Barrier's over

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<v Speaker 1>there doing. You know, they might be losing weight a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit faster or turning up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your own journey, focusing on you trying to

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight, and if you follow the program, you will

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight too, but you might have to work a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit harder or for a little bit longer than

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<v Speaker 1>that person because they're fifteen years younger, than you, or

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<v Speaker 1>they have more lean muscle than you, or you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're eating in the background, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a myriad of factors that you don't know about,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we focus on our own journey. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't compare ourselves to others, and really importantly, don't blame

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<v Speaker 1>these things as the reason you couldn't lose weight, because

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you everybody can lose weight if they do

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing for long enough. Our next weight loss

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<v Speaker 1>question is from Jill.

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<v Speaker 5>What is it about the strength training that helps with

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<v Speaker 5>weight loss?

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<v Speaker 6>So we touched on this before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great question and I'm really glad it's come

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<v Speaker 1>from Jill.

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<v Speaker 6>Being female.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it makes it stronger. Also, great for

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<v Speaker 1>our bone density, great for our posture.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the way we hold ourselves, the way we.

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<v Speaker 1>Look esthetically, all these kind of things. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>have lean muscle, you are burning more fat. It's as

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<v Speaker 1>simple as that. So the more lean muscle you can build,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you will be burning fat when you sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>when you are sitting down, when you're on the couch

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<v Speaker 1>witching TV, and absolutely when you are exercising. Get that

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<v Speaker 1>muscle up to get that body fat down and don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at them. A lot of people last making you

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<v Speaker 1>convert fat into muscle.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're completely independent physiological processes. I'm burning fat over here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm toning and building muscle over here, and they it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one plus.

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<v Speaker 6>One equals three.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get them right together, that's when you transform

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<v Speaker 1>the best and get the best results. The next question

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<v Speaker 1>is from Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>I've reduced the carbs in my diet and I'm also

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<v Speaker 4>exercising regularly, but I'm not losing weight. What could be

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<v Speaker 4>actually going wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to cop out here. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to sit on the fence or anything or say I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But there's a lot of factors from Matt

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know about that make it hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to absolutely pinpoint my answer. But when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the science, it sounds like Matt is still because

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<v Speaker 1>he's staying neutral. It doesn't sound like he's gaining weight,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't sound like he's losing weight either. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like he's mathematically, if you want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the nuts and bolts of it, bringing in as many

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<v Speaker 1>calories as he's burning. So we have to go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we tip the scales. He either needs to

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<v Speaker 1>exercise more often, exercise for longer, exercise harder, do a

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<v Speaker 1>different type of exercise that challenges him more and therefore

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<v Speaker 1>extends him more and it lifts the exercise side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Or he's perhaps eating well but his portion sizes are

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<v Speaker 1>still too big. There might be extra calories there in drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular alcohol that he's not necessarily accounting for when

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<v Speaker 1>he sort of does his calorie tally at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the.

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<v Speaker 6>Week or the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is, if your weight is staying the same,

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<v Speaker 1>that is science telling you that you're effectively burning the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount of calories on a daily basis or a

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<v Speaker 1>weekly basis that you're consuming, and we know that something

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<v Speaker 1>has to shift there. It doesn't have to be extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to add fifteen extra workouts and cut

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<v Speaker 1>your calories in half. You might consume two hundred calories

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<v Speaker 1>less per day and walk for thirty minutes extra each day,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, you've tipped the scales by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty percent and that weight will start to shift.

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<v Speaker 6>But we need.

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<v Speaker 1>To listen to our body, understand what's going on and

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<v Speaker 1>learn from that and not just bang our head against

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<v Speaker 1>a brick Walkers, we're frustrated by it. Tip the scales

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from a food perspective and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit from an exercise perspective in your favor, and you

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<v Speaker 1>will see that weight start to shift. And our next

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<v Speaker 1>question is from.

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<v Speaker 3>Kristen, I I can't spot reduce. What would be some

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<v Speaker 3>of the best advice that you could offer in regards

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<v Speaker 3>to the menopausal mound or the tummy that we older

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<v Speaker 3>ladies seem to carry around with us once we hit

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<v Speaker 3>that horrible menopausal phase in our life.

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<v Speaker 1>So, first of all, I recognize that voice. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's KP, who's one of our incredible twenty eight ers.

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<v Speaker 6>Lakp.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have a whole episode dedicated to menopause, so

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<v Speaker 1>I won't go into too much detail about menopause just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about spot reduction because you did say

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<v Speaker 1>I can't spot reduce.

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<v Speaker 6>And many of our listeners won't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Spot reduction is where this is the question, Sam, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to lose fat off the back of my arm, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to lose fat off my tummy, air omphathizer, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>your spot is, and physiologically it is impossible for us

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<v Speaker 1>to spot reduce. You can tone certain air is. You

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<v Speaker 1>can absolutely do your tryset pushdowns and your dips and

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<v Speaker 1>work those bingo wings or tuckshop arms or whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>want to affectionately call them, to tone the muscles in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the arms, which are called the triceps,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can do lots of core work to tone

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<v Speaker 1>those tummy muscles. But it's the layer of fat over

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<v Speaker 1>the top that we need to burn by burning calories,

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<v Speaker 1>consuming less calories, eating better, moving more. That's what it

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<v Speaker 1>always comes back to.

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>That will then burn that outer layer of fat off

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can see that beautiful, sculpted, toned muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can do sit ups till the cows come home.

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<v Speaker 1>But if your diet's no good and you're not burning

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<v Speaker 1>enough calories, you're never going to see a six pack.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter what happens. But to answer KP's question, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get disheartened by the fact you've got a certain.

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<v Speaker 6>Area that you're want to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>It really comes down to doing those right things with

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<v Speaker 1>your strength training and your cardio and nutrition for long.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of people throw in the towel, and

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<v Speaker 1>the golden moment is probably just around the corner, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the one you see with women a lot is, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost all this body fat from my arms and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, around my shoulders and my boobs. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>where I wanted to lose it, you know. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they keep going and they go, oh, that's just where

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<v Speaker 1>it sort of fell off first.

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<v Speaker 6>And now look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>My legs are toned up, and my tummy's toned up,

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<v Speaker 1>and the backs of my arms are now really sculpted.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just that they kept doing the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did it for longer, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they're wrapped with the results.

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<v Speaker 1>That they get. Thank you so much as always for

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