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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast for ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast.

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Speaker 1: It is your host, Georgie Stevenson, lawyer, entrepreneur, wife, mum

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Speaker 1: all the things guys. Today we are speaking with a

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. It's

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Speaker 3: So help it along.

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Speaker 2: It needs a really good like surge of water first

437
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Speaker 2: up in the morning. So before we smash our first

438
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Speaker 2: long black or flat white, you know, down some water

439
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Speaker 2: before we get into the cough. And I love coffee,

440
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: I do. I really do love coffee. But it's a

441
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Speaker 2: brilliant point. We rehydrate before then, and then I find

442
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Speaker 2: gut health super interesting. I've got a whole chapter dedicated

443
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Speaker 2: to it in the book and something that I work

444
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Speaker 2: with on my psychiatrist with because she is amazing and

445
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Speaker 2: I still see her once a year. Gut health is

446
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: just so completely linked to mental health. We can't deny

447
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: that anymore. So I take a probotic and prebodic supplement

448
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: in the morning, and all that is is just seventy

449
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: two plants compressed into a powder.

450
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Speaker 3: That's it.

451
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Speaker 2: And so then I know that I'm nourishing up my

452
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Speaker 2: gut health because our gut produces ninety percent of our serotonin,

453
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Speaker 2: which is really interesting.

454
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Speaker 3: You know.

455
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Speaker 2: The medication that I'm on is called Zoloft, and it's

456
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Speaker 2: a serotonin reuptakeing hibita and the mechanics of the dragon.

457
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Speaker 2: When you're at university and you're on medication, I can

458
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Speaker 2: guarantee you go do a deep dive right in what

459
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Speaker 2: medication you're on because you're like, Okay, what is this

460
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: doing and what's happening inside my body?

461
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Speaker 3: And it's really interesting.

462
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Speaker 2: You know, with medications like that, they help a lot

463
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Speaker 2: on the T cell junctions inside the gut to produce

464
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Speaker 2: more serotonin to transfer that up to the brain. Isn't

465
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Speaker 2: that amazing? So we really need to look after our

466
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Speaker 2: gut for our mental health. And then, like as you're

467
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Speaker 2: saying things like, you know, if you can get outside

468
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Speaker 2: in the morning, that's amazing movement the sunlight into the

469
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Speaker 2: eyes and onto the skin within a couple of hours

470
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Speaker 2: of sunrise, which is doctor Angie Hueman's work. He's an

471
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Speaker 2: amazing neuroscientist. Shout out to Andrew. But it's really incredible

472
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Speaker 2: in terms of shutting down the millotonin so suppressing you know,

473
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: there's melotonin so we don't feel as sleepy at rest.

474
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Speaker 2: It's a cycating clock for that night for sleep and

475
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Speaker 2: it kind of gets all your body systems working. And

476
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Speaker 2: so it's just within a couple of hours of sunrise,

477
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Speaker 2: if you can get outside or have your coffee on

478
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Speaker 2: the balcony or walk outside without your sunglasses on anymore,

479
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: that's going to be beneficial in the morning. Just don't

480
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Speaker 2: you know, during the middle of the day, don't sungaze

481
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Speaker 2: at the sun because you're going to blow out your

482
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Speaker 2: eyeballs and you.

483
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Speaker 3: Get retina down.

484
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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's really important to know that just in

485
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Speaker 2: the morning, Okay, we're not staring right into the sun,

486
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Speaker 2: We're just walking around close to sunrise. And so I

487
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Speaker 2: would say that those things would be really beneficial. I've

488
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Speaker 2: got a lot of different tips and hacks there in

489
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Speaker 2: the book that are science based, but I don't want

490
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Speaker 2: to overwhelm the audience too much.

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Speaker 3: I always just say to pick, no, that's your purpose.

492
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Speaker 2: She's one or two things that you can do differently

493
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Speaker 2: that it will have a good behavioral change on your

494
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Speaker 2: mental health and on your brain health.

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Speaker 1: Right at the start, Chelsea you chat head, you spoke

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Speaker 1: sorry about neuroplasticity with I just found so interesting in

497
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Speaker 1: the book, and I just I love this concept that

498
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Speaker 1: you know, we can kind of train our brain to rethink.

499
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, my understanding of it is and

500
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Speaker 1: I feel like so many of us very much get

501
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Speaker 1: stuck in this negative mindset loop. And something that I

502
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Speaker 1: really preach and talk about on this podcast is limiting

503
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: beliefs where you know, we've picked up a limiting belief

504
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Speaker 1: from our childhood or a parent or you know, a

505
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Speaker 1: sibling or something like that, and then it becomes, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: a truth for us. And then something that I, you know,

507
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Speaker 1: really try and be aware of is like picking that

508
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Speaker 1: limiting belief and being like, oh, this is actually just

509
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Speaker 1: you know, a negative thought loop. I would love to know.

510
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Speaker 1: We don't have to go to science. Ye, but how

511
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Speaker 1: would someone be able to retrain their brain to break

512
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Speaker 1: that negative thought loop?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

514
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Speaker 2: So I think neuroplastisity is fascinating and I think it

515
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Speaker 2: kind of needs to be shouted from the rooftops here

516
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Speaker 2: across the globe really around how our brain can change

517
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Speaker 2: right up until the day we die. Right, so when

518
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Speaker 2: we skid out of here in our coffin, maybe the

519
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: glass of champagne in our hand, going well, that was

520
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: a fun ride. Know that your brain will change right

521
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: up until the very last breath that you take. It

522
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Speaker 2: is not this fixed structure that we once thought it

523
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Speaker 2: was in science like thirty years ago. And by us

524
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Speaker 2: knowing that that we can actually rewire the brain, we

525
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Speaker 2: can fry up new synaptic connections, gives us a lot

526
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Speaker 2: of hope, right, in psychology that we can reset and

527
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Speaker 2: retrain people's brains to get them through things like PTSD.

528
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Speaker 2: And you know, if they get caught up in overthinking

529
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Speaker 2: of ruminate feedback loops and things like that, there's a

530
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Speaker 2: fantastic researcher out there and this might help people, right

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Speaker 2: if they do get caught up in feedback loops. And

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Speaker 2: I find this one really helpful for me as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, being a human being, I still get worried,

534
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Speaker 2: I still get stressed, I still get overwhelmed. But I'm

535
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Speaker 2: really lucky that I have some things to lean on

536
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Speaker 2: now too that I can help myself.

537
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Speaker 3: Out of it.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got like a worry, right, maybe your

539
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Speaker 2: concern is you know what, I'll use my husband. I'll

540
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Speaker 2: use him as an example, and it's the research line

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Speaker 2: is is doctor Lucy Hone. Okay, so she's an incredible

542
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Speaker 2: researcher in resilience and this technique's great for rumination. If

543
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: you haven't seen her Ted Talk, everyone who's listening, go

544
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: and watch it. It is absolutely incredible. Doctor Lucy Hone

545
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: is her name. And so say, for example, my husband

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Speaker 2: is worried that he's going to get bitten by a

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Speaker 2: shark when he goes surfing. Okay, so they say that's

548
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Speaker 2: his and that's that's actually a real life one because

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty eighteen, when he was surfing down here

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Speaker 2: at Whey Beach, he was paddling out and he got

551
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Speaker 2: knocked off by a bull shark and early morning, like

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Speaker 2: the conditions were perfect for a shark attack, to be honest,

553
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Speaker 2: like early morning, you know, it was like the sun

554
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Speaker 2: was just rising, the water was, you know, looking sharky,

555
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Speaker 2: and so he's out right on shark time having a

556
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Speaker 2: surf and so the shark knocks him off his board

557
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Speaker 2: and then so he's like, oh my gosh, what was that,

558
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: scrambles back on and then he sees it coming back again.

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Speaker 2: So he's got two buddies out there with them, and

560
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Speaker 2: he's like, mate, that's a bull shark. And it came

561
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Speaker 2: back underneath his board, starts circling underneath him and bumped

562
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Speaker 2: him off again. And so the guys the good news

563
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Speaker 2: is Jay survived. The boys got to get their surfboards,

564
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: creating a large surface area, and the shark took off.

565
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Speaker 2: Jay swam in. However, now not only did you know

566
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Speaker 2: this shark knock him off his board, but it also

567
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Speaker 2: knocked him off his confidence right to go back into

568
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Speaker 2: the ocean. And so we used doctor Lucy Holmes's technique

569
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Speaker 2: and I think it's awesome. So Number one is whatever

570
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Speaker 2: it is causing you worry, just recognize that a lot

571
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Speaker 2: of the stuff in psychology and mindful Nurse is just

572
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Speaker 2: noticing what comes up for you. So just jotting it down.

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Speaker 2: It could be, you know, we're leaning on Jay's example

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Speaker 2: here my husband, but for you, it could be mortgage repayments.

575
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: It could be you're worried about your child getting sick.

576
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: It could be that you failed a course. It doesn't matter,

577
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: just whatever that is for you. Number two, you then

578
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: need to ask yourself is this feedback loop helping me

579
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Speaker 2: or harming me? And so when you pull that into

580
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: alignment in terms of when you start questioning sometimes these outdated,

581
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: untrue stories we tell ourselves. We can really catastrophize as

582
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: human beings, and we can fortune tell with our thinking patterns.

583
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Speaker 2: When you do things like that, is this helping me

584
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Speaker 2: or harming me? And your brain recognizes that it's a

585
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: harmful feedback loop. What will happen here is pretty magical.

586
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: The brain will work one hundred percent in your favor.

587
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Speaker 2: So instead of releasing dopamine, a reward motivation chemical, it

588
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: actually enables you to move into action. So you're gonna

589
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: skip missing the ruminating feedback loop because you're like, well

590
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Speaker 2: that's a harmful feedback loop and you get a little

591
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Speaker 2: bit of space there in your brain rather than hitting

592
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: another ruminative loop, and you go, okay, let's now move

593
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: into fact checking. Okay, so this is really important. So

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Speaker 2: number one, recognize the feedback loop. Number two is this

595
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Speaker 2: helping me or harming me? Number three, it's harmful, So

596
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Speaker 2: let me go check the facts and what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 2: So with Jay, for example, we had to go and

598
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Speaker 2: do some research. How many shark deaths are there every

599
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Speaker 2: year globally? Surprisingly, there's not that many. There's ten ten

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Speaker 2: that happened globally, which is very sad for that person

601
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Speaker 2: and their families and friends that are involved in that.

602
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Speaker 2: But we're actually more likely to get hit by car

603
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Speaker 2: in Gerongong, right, which is a small town, so much

604
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Speaker 2: more like statistically that's going.

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Speaker 3: To happen to us.

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Speaker 2: So it helps then rationalize the brain, right, It brings

607
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Speaker 2: you back in from this catastrophic fear thinking into Okay, well,

608
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Speaker 2: now I'm a bit more rational, right, I've got the

609
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Speaker 2: facts right, and you need to go factually. It's not

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Speaker 2: the time to jump on social media and seeing what

611
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Speaker 2: a celebrity is saying about the thing you're worried about.

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Speaker 2: You've got to go where the facts are. So you've

613
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Speaker 2: got to do a proper fact check and then you

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Speaker 2: move yourself into action. So what are now the steps

615
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Speaker 2: I can do now that I know that the risk

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Speaker 2: of me dying from a shark attack is minimal? What

617
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Speaker 2: are the actions now that I do? And for Jay,

618
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Speaker 2: it was just gentle exposure back into the water, and

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Speaker 2: so that was really really helpful for him in terms

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Speaker 2: of management point of view. And now he's back to

621
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Speaker 2: surfing every day and he loves it. Granted, we both

622
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: bought a shark band to wear on our ankle that

623
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: is meant to propel waves out to little sharks so

624
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Speaker 2: that don't.

625
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Speaker 3: Come near us.

626
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just a psychological comfort as well wearing them

627
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Speaker 2: on our feet, but that's that was a really effective thing.

628
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Speaker 2: And I use that technique myself personally when I'm going

629
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Speaker 2: through stuff too.

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Speaker 1: So I really want to chat to you about purpose

631
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Speaker 1: because I loved this bit in your book where you

632
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Speaker 1: chatted about purpose and you kind of said whether you

633
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: were like, fulfilling your life's purpose has a big impact

634
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Speaker 1: on being burnt out? Can you chat to us about

635
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Speaker 1: this and then also chat to us about you know,

636
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Speaker 1: someone who is like I don't know what my purpose is,

637
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: what would they do in this scenario?

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Speaker 2: So I think a big thing around, you know, with

639
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: your purpose, when you identify what your purpose is and

640
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: you do not have to go through a significant life

641
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: adversity like deep dark despair of post our depression to

642
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: get to your life's purpose. I hope you never go

643
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: through anything like that, like a trauma. And I think

644
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: it's a really important thing to do some deep work

645
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: around identifying and understanding your purpose, because it brings you

646
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: a lot of clarity, particularly on your values and your

647
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: life's work and then also your boundaries. And you know,

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00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: when we're thinking about values, they are things that are

649
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: going to reward you. And your passion right is what's

650
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: going to fuel you to keep ongoing, and your life's

651
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: work is what it will allow you to help others,

652
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: and your boundaries will allow you to help yourself. So

653
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Speaker 2: I think that's really really important. By gaining a very

654
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: clear understanding of those four areas, it really helps people

655
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: then set goals and form these habits and adopt routines

656
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: that allow them right to live this life on purpose

657
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: and protect their mental health. So a few things that

658
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: I'd say to people is one, getting really clear on

659
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: what your values are, so you know it's crucial, right, say,

660
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: for example, one of your core values. So one of

661
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: my core values, right is family, Like my family are

662
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: everything to me, and you know, so they feel my soul,

663
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: They're so important. But saying that my value is family,

664
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: but then I'm working seventy to eighty hours a week,

665
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing my husband or my daughter, I'm not

666
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: taking holidays when I'm with them, I'm always on my

667
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: phone checking Instagram. And as a result, I feel a

668
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: very sense of internal conflict and stress because deep down

669
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: my behaviors aren't aligning with what I truly value. So

670
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: I think it's really really important that people take the

671
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: time to work out what do you value?

672
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Right?

673
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: And it might not be family for everyone, financial abundance

674
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: and that's okay, right. It could be nature and adventure

675
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: for some people, it could be travel, other people, it

676
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: could be faith. So I think you know knowing what

677
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: your values are. And in the book we do some

678
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: stuff around how to identify what your values are, and

679
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: it's really important to know what they are because it's

680
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: going to help with when you accept a new job, right,

681
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: or if you want to start your own business, or

682
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: if you want to go traveling for a year, or

683
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: do you want to invest in property, and all those

684
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: questions that come up in life will be back to

685
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: your values based. So that also it really helps make

686
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: you make choices right that you feel very proud and

687
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: happy about because they are on purpose. And to be honest,

688
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: you know your values may change as you are getting older.

689
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: You know you.

690
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely can change your values. And then the next thing

691
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: is that like the passion behind your purpose and so

692
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: finding out what that is right, So you've got your

693
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: values there, and then it's the passion behind the purpose.

694
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: So you know what do you make time for in

695
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: your life? You know what do you channel a lot

696
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: of your energy into? Right? For me, I'm such a dog,

697
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: Like if I'm not studying at UNI, I take a

698
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: UNI semester off, so I go on and off with UNI. Again,

699
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: that's a boundary right, So I am not burning out.

700
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: But every time I've got an off semester where I'm

701
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: not studying, I am like literally reading neuroscience books, psychology

702
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: such a Jay's like, you are such a dork, and

703
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I love it right, It's where it's

704
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: where my passion is and I love that stuff. So

705
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: people it's like, well, where do I get what lights

706
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: me up? And I think you know things even from

707
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: a holistic point of view, from what you eat to

708
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: how you move your body to the way you speak

709
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: to people, What is that driving force behind every action

710
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: that you take? So that's another one. And then it's

711
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: your strengths and talents. So this is all helping you

712
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: work out your purpose, you know, And sometimes it's hard

713
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: right to if we're not very good at giving ourselves

714
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: compliments in life, unless you're a narcissist and you're like, yes,

715
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: I am amazing. So if that's you, you know, probably

716
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: we're not friends with most narcissists because they're so self involved.

717
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: But sometimes it's really hard, right to work out what

718
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: you're good at. So I would say to people, go

719
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: and speak to someone that you really trusted, trusted advisor.

720
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: It could be your mum, it could be your partner,

721
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: could be mate, and just ask them, you know, can

722
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: you let me know what you think my strengths are?

723
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: And you know, I think sometimes it's hard to ask

724
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: people that, So just lean on a couple of people

725
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: in your life, you know, if you're in the process

726
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: of working out what your purpose is, maybe ask them,

727
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, what do you see is my talents and strengths.

728
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: I really value your opinion.

729
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: I would love to know what you think because they

730
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: might unlock something for you that you don't don't know.

731
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Right.

732
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: And then the last thing is is kind of like

733
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: your life's work, and it's around you know, understanding what

734
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: you're passionate about and then knowing what your strengths are,

735
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: staying true to your values is what's going to drive

736
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: your career rise. And then I say career, I don't

737
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: mean you know, something that's paid. Which is why I'm

738
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: going to use this term life work, because some people

739
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: listening to your passion and strengths and values make you

740
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: want to stay at home with your children, right, and

741
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: that is wonderful. I've got some girlfriends who are just

742
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: incredible mums and they are just so they love that

743
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: and that's awesome. Some people might want to stay at

744
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: home and create art. Other people, you know, my be

745
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: a community project, so working on kind of what that

746
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: life work is. And then finally your boundaries. And I

747
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: love them because they're vital, right, They're vital for me,

748
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: they're vital for you Georgie, for everyone listening to keep

749
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: them fresh so you can achieve what you want to

750
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: in this life. And I really believe that we need

751
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: boundaries so we don't burn out, we don't become exhausted,

752
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: and we don't get taken advantage of. And I think,

753
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, for me, I used to find it really

754
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: difficult to say no. And whether it was someone messaging

755
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: me going hey can I take you out for coffee

756
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: to pick your brains? Or attending so many different social

757
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: events or a hectic work week. Before I went down

758
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: this mental health psychology path, I used to say yes

759
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: to everything right as like I was the wingwoman. If

760
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: you need one, a Chelsea Poding Jat would be there,

761
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: right there with you. And I think part of it

762
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: was not to I didn't want to let people down.

763
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: Other parts was because I was reluctant to admit that

764
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: I needed some me time, and I felt this constant

765
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: pressure to be there for everyone else, almost at the

766
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: detriment to my own health, and so I got very

767
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: very clear then after going through postnatal and setting up

768
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: a company around my boundaries, and I'm very very strong

769
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: on them. My husband is also like my number one

770
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: bounce up, like you actually can't get to me unless

771
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: you go through j So it's he AWESO buffers everything

772
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: for me because I'm very lucky that I have him,

773
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: But I've also got very very no in life. And

774
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: then my girlfriends know that when I say yes, no,

775
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: turn up, I'm truly there, like it's that whole thing.

776
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: If it's not, it's a hell no, right, Like I

777
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: have to be really diligent with my workload because my

778
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: mental health is so important. But also my value is

779
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: my family, so they don't deserve, particularly Clara does not

780
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: deserve a burnt out, stressed out, anxious mum at the

781
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: end of the day. So the boundaries are just so

782
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: so important for people, and I think, you know, we

783
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: can't emphasize that enough that people aren't going to like

784
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: you any less for saying no, okay. I think that's

785
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 2: an important message at the end struggled.

786
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you ended on that, because boundaries

787
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: are hard. They're you know, I think we're we grow

788
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: up being like you have to be polite, and it

789
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: feels very natural to me to want to say yes

790
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: to everything. But I feel like, you know, I'm slowly

791
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: getting there with putting in boundaries and saying no. I

792
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: would love for you to kind of give us a

793
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: little example of Obviously, it's great that you were explaining

794
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: that once you're clear on your values, it is then

795
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: so easy to know what you say yes and what

796
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: you say no to. But you know, let's, for instance,

797
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: say someone is a complete people pleas are they're you know,

798
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: they never say no. Obviously, the first step is get

799
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: clear on your values, get clear on your priorities, and

800
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: then you will be clear on what you're saying yes.

801
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Or no to.

802
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: But can you give us a little, you know, insight

803
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: of how a no can actually be really impac carrying

804
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: and not you know, quote unquote rude, and how we

805
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: would kind of go about that.

806
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really really great question, and we have

807
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: like even I think it's like this no email template

808
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: in the book to help people, and I set up

809
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: an email template for work. That's the no email, And

810
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: I also have one in my note section in my

811
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: phone and I'm declining social events. So that's just an

812
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: efficiency hack. Plus then I don't have to think about it,

813
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: and it's just like it's just a no, right, I

814
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: don't have to come up with the new words. And

815
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: I find that way really helpful and it's really we've

816
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: done it in a really kind way, right to not

817
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: let you know, to hurt someone's feelings or anything like that.

818
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: So I think the tips are saying no is you know.

819
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: Number one is softened the blow by thanking them for

820
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: thinking of you, you know, thanks for thinking on me

821
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: for the dinner right in Sydney. I'm coming up to

822
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Sydney for work. Thanks for thinking of me for that night.

823
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: Then you need to really tell them what's on your plate. Okay,

824
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: So so it's a that work example, and it's your

825
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: boss making this request for more work. You really need

826
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: to share with them what's on your list for the day. Yeah,

827
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: like what's on your to do list to get through

828
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: for the day. And then ask them if what they're

829
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: asking from you, what they're requesting from you, does that

830
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: need to be prioritized, right, So does that need to

831
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: shift up in the order of priority because it's better

832
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: for the business objectives? And if it does, then you

833
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: need to ask them, Okay, if I'm taking that on,

834
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: what should I take off on my list today so

835
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: I can get through my work? And then I think

836
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: the next thing is explained to them that it doesn't

837
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: need to be a no for ever. And the reason

838
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: why I say that to people is because sometimes people

839
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: in corporate feel like they could be career limiting themselves

840
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: or missing out in future opportunities if they say no

841
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: to things. But you need to kind of change your

842
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: perspective on this. You know, if you're completely gassed out

843
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: and you can't take on any more and your workload,

844
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: you know, you're working till eleven pm at night and

845
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: you're not seeing your family and your mental health is suffering,

846
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: we really need to change our perspective. When we actually

847
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: say no to somebody, what we're doing is allowing someone else,

848
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: right with more space to step in in your time, right,

849
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: So they're stepping in so something more time, energy and

850
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: passion to come in and take the business brea it

851
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: needs to go. And then by you saying it to

852
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: be a no forever. They know that they can come

853
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: back and ask you again when yeah, you have more time.

854
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: So I think it's really important, Like I say no

855
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: a lot. If people need to hear about it, you know,

856
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: send me a DM on Instagram or to my work

857
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: email and we will share that with you, the no template,

858
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: because I really feel like, you know, people always say,

859
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, Chelsea boundaries are amazing. I'm so respectful of

860
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: how you protect yourself. And then also, my girlfriends know

861
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: that if I'm at university and I'm doing two keynotes

862
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: today and I've got a lot going on, they know

863
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: that I need a night in at the hotel room

864
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: that night for a bath and just not talking to

865
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: anyone and watching a series because I'm introverted and converted, right,

866
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: I need to recharge myself that way. But when I

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Speaker 2: do turn up like they get the most energized version

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Speaker 2: of me, So they get the best version of me,

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Speaker 2: and they know that. So I think, you know, I

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Speaker 2: really do think if people get offended by you saying no,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you explain to them what's going on,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's time to assess.

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Speaker 3: You know, that that relationship.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a bit of cosmic accounting I call it.

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Speaker 2: You know, when it comes to friendships and relationships and

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Speaker 2: to look after your mental health, please make sure you're

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Speaker 2: surrounding yourself with positive people who appreciate open and honest

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Speaker 2: communication as well as boundaries. That's where you know your

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Speaker 2: true friends are. Right if they're getting like pissed off

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Speaker 2: because you're canceling the plans to take care of your

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Speaker 2: mental health, I say, cancel the plans and then also

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Speaker 2: reassess the friendship.

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Speaker 1: That's what I try and remind myself. If anyone's going

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Speaker 1: to be offended by this no or have negative you know,

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Speaker 1: feelings towards me putting in boundaries that are important to me,

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Speaker 1: then that person is not actually important to me. They

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Speaker 1: shouldn't actually be in my life. So yeah, that was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Chelsea. You just have so much knowledge.

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Speaker 1: And I think what I loved so much about your

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Speaker 1: book was, you know, the stuff that you spoke about.

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Speaker 1: It's it is stuff that you know, we kind of know,

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Speaker 1: we've kind of heard about, and you know, bits and

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Speaker 1: pieces here and there, but you really bring it all

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Speaker 1: together and you put it in language that it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I need to do this. I need to implement this thing.

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Speaker 1: And these are not you know, these are not big things.

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Speaker 1: They're small things. We can all do them. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's just about getting really clear on what we want

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Speaker 1: on our values and then putting in the habits. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, Chelsea. It has just been so amazing

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Speaker 1: to chat to you. And yeah, it's just incredible that

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Speaker 1: you've been able to put so many incredible things in

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Speaker 1: this you know, one book for us and I loved

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Speaker 1: reading it and it was just so nice to have

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Speaker 1: you on the potty too, debrief and chat about it

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Speaker 1: and you know, let the audience in on the goodness.

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Speaker 1: But where can they find you? Where can they buy

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Speaker 1: the book?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Georgie for having me on and

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Speaker 2: turning up the volume on mental health. I am so

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Speaker 2: grateful to people like you that are getting the noise

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Speaker 2: out there across our globe.

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Speaker 3: So thank you hard. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So where people can find us at EQ Minds is

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Speaker 2: our biggest platform, So if you're listening, you know we

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Speaker 2: do mental health tips and tools and resources for free

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Speaker 2: on their every single day. Chelsea pot Injo Official is

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Speaker 2: my personal one. If you're interested in behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: keynote speaking things to do you know in business, then

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Speaker 2: that I would go there, but for mental health and resources,

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Speaker 2: I would lean on the at eq minds Instagram and

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Speaker 2: then our website is eqminds dot com and the book.

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Speaker 3: Better give that a shout out so you can buy

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Speaker 3: the book.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening here in Australia, you can get the

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Speaker 2: book anywhere, write any bookstore, online, you can buy anywhere.

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Speaker 2: For the people who are global that are listening at

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Speaker 2: the moment, avail globally on audible, but it is coming

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Speaker 2: in a hardcover there to the UK in January twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three and the USA March twenty twenty three. So

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Speaker 2: very grateful that this is getting out across the world.

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Speaker 1: It's just incredible. Thank you so much for your time today, Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: It has been such a pleasure to have you on

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Concer Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Georgie for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer Podcast. If you enjoyed it and

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Speaker 1: and Concer podcast community. We're an independent podcast and we

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Speaker 1: have a small team, so we do appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: and support. If you have a spare moment, a follow

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Speaker 1: or subscribe on whatever platform you listen to would be

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