Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of Life.
Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm Laura, I'm Brittany.
Speaker 1: What just happened.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing at what I just said. I just literally
Speaker 2: before we recorded it was supposed to be off Mike,
Speaker 2: but I'll just say it.
Speaker 1: Fuck it.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm weirdly irrationally jealous at my fiance's sister.
Speaker 3: Yeah, BRIT's soon to be sister in law. Britt has
Speaker 3: like is it retroactive jealous? No, come about strain, It's.
Speaker 2: Just like jealousy.
Speaker 1: You're just jealous.
Speaker 2: I'm just jealous. Yeah, but like obviously irrational. They're related
Speaker 2: and nothing's going on.
Speaker 3: You did say Ben is currently on a cute date
Speaker 3: with his sister, and I was like, that's not actually
Speaker 3: how it is.
Speaker 2: No, because Ben never posts anything on his Instagram. And
Speaker 2: I woke up this morning and there was a photo
Speaker 2: on his on his story and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: what's his posted? At the most it's like a pair
Speaker 2: of goalkeeping globs, like that's what you posts? And I
Speaker 2: was like, what do you post it? I went on
Speaker 2: there and there's like this beautiful photo this sister Becky
Speaker 2: and they're on at this cute little table in Italy,
Speaker 2: like she's visiting and she's got an apero spirits and
Speaker 2: she's all dressed in beautiful fashion and they're having like
Speaker 2: little canolis and treats and they're like that should be me,
Speaker 2: and I was like, yes, I was like I should
Speaker 2: be there having connoli. And then he sends me another pastor.
Speaker 2: He's like, just off to this cute restaurant for an
Speaker 2: ugli at olio and then we're going to sorry, what
Speaker 2: it's a pasta, and then again and it's Mitch Cheery's
Speaker 2: favorite pasta. Then they're going to it. He's like, tomorrow
Speaker 2: we're going to port Afino and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: stop it. I was like, I'm weirdly jealous that you
Speaker 2: and your sister are doing everything that.
Speaker 1: I wish I was doing.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that you're just here with us, and I'm
Speaker 3: here with you a lot dancing unfortunately in the morning.
Speaker 1: Do you know what is funny? Though?
Speaker 2: So last night, So Ben doesn't get many weekends off,
Speaker 2: so he's been trying to plan his Bucks party with
Speaker 2: his friends for quite a while because we've planned mine,
Speaker 2: like we know when my Hen's party is it's well
Speaker 2: planned in advance. I've looked after everything and then I've
Speaker 2: hand did it over so it's organized for everyone.
Speaker 3: The planning of your HENS party has been going on
Speaker 3: since January.
Speaker 1: It is a well oiled machine of planning.
Speaker 2: My Hens is more planned than my wedding.
Speaker 1: I would agree, yeah, no it is.
Speaker 2: My wedding's not planned yet. Great wedding planner, but Ben
Speaker 2: and I have been stalling on some things. The wedding
Speaker 2: plan is not to play it.
Speaker 1: I'm the problem.
Speaker 2: Poor Amelia, my wedding planner. She's messaged me last three
Speaker 2: days in a row. She's like, hey, just chasing again.
Speaker 2: We really need to lock some stuff. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: just let me get through my dancing. I was like
Speaker 2: next week, I'm yours. So anyway, well oiled machine. So
Speaker 2: last night I was talking to my sister Sherry and
Speaker 2: Jay on FaceTime and they said to me, Hey, look,
Speaker 2: can you like try and sus Ben out and get
Speaker 2: him to lockdown a weekend for the bucks so that
Speaker 2: everyone else can plan it. He's like, cause we're there's
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts, a lot of people have
Speaker 2: got to travel from different countries. Jay has to fly
Speaker 2: in from Scotland and flights are going up and up.
Speaker 2: So she's like, can you just tell him to lock
Speaker 2: something in because Ben is really disorganized. He's not a
Speaker 2: good planner. So I messaged Ben. I said, Babe, pull
Speaker 2: your finger out, pick a weekend, tell the boys so
Speaker 2: that they can plan it. And I was like, this
Speaker 2: isn't something that people can just do in three days time,
Speaker 2: Like people need to know they have jobs that they
Speaker 2: need to take off. I was like, just pull your
Speaker 2: finger out, and he's like, oh, okay, I'll speak to
Speaker 2: my best man, you know, over the next couple of
Speaker 2: days left it. Then I woke up this morning. This
Speaker 2: is like eleven pm last night. I woke up this
Speaker 2: morning in a cool band and he goes, ah, well,
Speaker 2: you little plan didn't work, Brittany what And I was
Speaker 2: like what And he's like I know? And I was
Speaker 2: like what do you know? He's like, did you think
Speaker 2: you could keep it from me this weekend? And I
Speaker 2: was like, babe, I actually.
Speaker 1: Have no idea what you're talking like, I'm not coming.
Speaker 2: I was like, I genuinely have no idea what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. I was like, I'm really confused, and he's like, no,
Speaker 2: you tried to play it on me last night. I
Speaker 2: figured it out and I was like, ben stop. I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Speaker 2: And he's like, my buck's being this weekend?
Speaker 1: Is it this weekend?
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, what's not. I was like, baby,
Speaker 2: your bucks is not this weekend.
Speaker 1: I also am not organizing your bucks.
Speaker 3: So like, if you think that I'm here in Australia
Speaker 3: organizing your bucks for you, you have a really like
Speaker 3: misled perception around what's happening with this wedding.
Speaker 2: He goes, I know you're trying to throw me off
Speaker 2: the scent. He was really adamant. I was like a baby,
Speaker 2: like all my life. I was like, your bucks is
Speaker 2: not this weekend. I was like I like, I don't
Speaker 2: want you to think that this is something's happening that's not.
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, well, you messaging me last night
Speaker 2: telling me to pull my finger out and pick a
Speaker 2: weekend to plan it when it's this weekend. And this
Speaker 2: went on and on and on, and I couldn't get
Speaker 2: him to believe me that I have no idea what
Speaker 2: he's talking about. So it turns out his Bucks is
Speaker 2: this weekend?
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: It was just it wasn't it meant to be a surprise.
Speaker 2: No, So what happened was I messaged him last night
Speaker 2: and said pull your finger out. So he messaged his
Speaker 2: best man and said, hey, like, let's get this going. So,
Speaker 2: in true boy fashion, they literally planned it that night
Speaker 2: for in two days time, they just called all their
Speaker 2: group chat messaged, everyone, booked a flight, everyone's going to Italy,
Speaker 2: and in two days time they're having a bus party.
Speaker 3: I don't understand. None of these people have children or
Speaker 3: wives or like jobs. Yeah, pretty much like or anything
Speaker 3: that they need to be home for.
Speaker 2: Not only one person has a kid and everyone else
Speaker 2: has like a Monday to Friday job. And Europe's different,
Speaker 2: I guess because everywhere is like a flight, it's like
Speaker 2: an hour. Do you have any feelings of like, I
Speaker 2: have feelings of jealousy that I've planned mine for four
Speaker 2: months and you're doing it in two days? Don't know,
Speaker 2: but you know that yours will be better like his
Speaker 2: will just be they'll just go to a pubble something.
Speaker 2: But like, do you feel weird that he's having his
Speaker 2: bucks and you're like not there for any of it.
Speaker 3: I don't mean at the Bucks, but I just mean
Speaker 3: like that. It's like there's a celebration that he just
Speaker 3: goes home to his own home and you're like goodbye.
Speaker 2: I would have wanted to put like a GPS system
Speaker 2: in his shoe him around like an air tracker following
Speaker 2: him around.
Speaker 1: Where's he at?
Speaker 2: Now? Watch trip clubs out like I can see you
Speaker 2: through the window. Yeah, I definitely feel jealous that I'm
Speaker 2: not doing that. No, it is. It is weird. It's weird, yeah,
Speaker 2: but we get used to it.
Speaker 1: Have we got strippers at your hens?
Speaker 2: So? I don't know, Sherry asked me the other day.
Speaker 2: It was so long story short. I made a joke
Speaker 2: on the podcast ages ago. Remember we were talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah magic my guy, Yeah, looks like Channing Tatum.
Speaker 2: So I made the joke. The only I don't want
Speaker 2: stripper is the only person I'd ever have is that
Speaker 2: guy that looks like Channing Tatum. Anyway, Fake Channing Tatum
Speaker 2: heard it on the podcast and messaged me.
Speaker 1: He DM me and he was like, hey, come wait
Speaker 1: for your hands.
Speaker 2: He travels fast. You want me? And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, that really did get around. He's like, look
Speaker 2: if you want me, I'm yours, name the place.
Speaker 1: And I'll be there.
Speaker 3: Is it weird to organize your own stripper, though?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: When you specifically said that you would only have someone
Speaker 3: that looks like Channing Tatum, like give you a lap dance,
Speaker 3: and then here he is.
Speaker 2: It kind of feels it feels too close to like
Speaker 2: this is like a hall pass. Like if I was
Speaker 2: Ben I'd be annoyed by that.
Speaker 3: Like if Matt said, oh, I only want this one
Speaker 3: stripper and she's really hot, and then she DMed him
Speaker 3: and then he.
Speaker 2: Organized him self. Part of me would be like, that
Speaker 2: feels close to cheating. She feels suspiciously close to doing
Speaker 2: the wrong thing. So I passed that information on to
Speaker 2: those that needed aka you guys, and Sherry forgot about it.
Speaker 2: And then Sherry called me a couple of days ago
Speaker 2: and she's like, hey, we need to lock this down.
Speaker 2: The stripper Chantato changing Tatum, imagine Mike you want him.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't make that decision. I was like, no,
Speaker 2: if you can, I was like, if you're gonna put
Speaker 2: me on, I said, I don't want him for me.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't want him for me. I want
Speaker 2: him for everyone else or for the entertainment, for the laughs.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want Channing Tatum to come
Speaker 2: and strip on me.
Speaker 1: Oh please?
Speaker 2: Nice backtrack, Brittany, Channing Tatum two point zero is coming
Speaker 2: to strip. You're getting a lap dance. He's just getting
Speaker 2: a lap dance. I want to be entertained from the side.
Speaker 2: I just want to I'm here for the dancing. I'm
Speaker 2: a dancer now, so I want to just I appreciate.
Speaker 1: What were you about to say?
Speaker 2: Key?
Speaker 1: She said, things get more interesting.
Speaker 4: Things get more interesting because Sherry and I have been
Speaker 4: talking with my ultimate hence the team that are organizing it,
Speaker 4: and no one has clarity on whether you actually.
Speaker 1: Want him or not.
Speaker 4: Like but Sherry came to me and she was like,
Speaker 4: I can't work out where the Brits like trying to
Speaker 4: be like, oh, you know, I don't have been I don't.
Speaker 2: She's not nervous. No, you don't book your own stripper.
Speaker 2: There's like one rule for a hens you don't want
Speaker 2: me to book it. I can't even say that. I
Speaker 2: can't have that on record.
Speaker 3: I think the issue is is that we keep publicly
Speaker 3: talking about the same specific stripper on this podcast, and
Speaker 3: not only is it just between friends, but like nationally, internationally,
Speaker 3: everybody now knows that there is a man who looks
Speaker 3: like Chatting Tatum that Brittany wants a lap dance from,
Speaker 3: and that is getting weird.
Speaker 2: I don't want to lap dance from him. She wants
Speaker 2: to do the charter. I want a samba, I want
Speaker 2: a samba roll. No. The reason I said he would
Speaker 2: be the only person I get is because he's not
Speaker 2: a stripper. Like they don't get naked, but they entertain
Speaker 2: and the way that they dance is not stripper dance.
Speaker 2: It's like actually really intense, like it's a show. And
Speaker 2: that was why he I thought he was different because
Speaker 2: it's not like the corny cringe where they like rip
Speaker 2: their police costume off. They actually dance and they involve
Speaker 2: the audience in different ways. I just thought if I
Speaker 2: was going to do it, that'd be my limit. But
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to listen to this and be
Speaker 2: like Brittany's been DM in striper.
Speaker 1: I have thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 3: I've only ever been to Hens where the stripper has
Speaker 3: been like it's been a woeful experience, hilarious, but also
Speaker 3: horrible at the same time, like there wasn't any And
Speaker 3: I think it's different for men and women, Like I
Speaker 3: think that maybe this is a little bit gendered, but
Speaker 3: often female hens parties the stripper it's funny, like.
Speaker 1: It's not sexy.
Speaker 3: No one's sitting around being like, oh yeah, bring it,
Speaker 3: give it to me. I don't think so anyway, but
Speaker 3: like every single time I've witnessed one, it's always been
Speaker 3: it's like, what is going on?
Speaker 4: This is a lot I have a perspective here that
Speaker 4: I have just realized. I was thinking about it as
Speaker 4: you were saying that, and I was like, most people
Speaker 4: are going to find this really weird. I've been to
Speaker 4: two Bucks parties. I have a lot of mates who
Speaker 4: are guys who are straight, and so I've actually I've
Speaker 4: seen the other side as well. I've been at two
Speaker 4: Bucks parties where they had strippers, and it's kind of
Speaker 4: similar vibes, Like unless you go to a strip club,
Speaker 4: I think my experience is at least and I mean
Speaker 4: two is pretty limited. But it's kind of just like
Speaker 4: everyone's in a room. And this is why I find
Speaker 4: it really interesting when so many people write in fasku
Speaker 4: and cut to us being like, I can't believe they
Speaker 4: had a stripper at the Bucks. I'm like, if it
Speaker 4: was a group situation, it likely wasn't sexual or imagining
Speaker 4: it to be.
Speaker 2: You know, and Ben wouldn't care. Like we're laughing about this.
Speaker 2: Ben wouldn't care if it was the Magic Mike guy.
Speaker 2: If I was at some seedy strip club and someone
Speaker 2: was like hitting in the face with a dick, yeah,
Speaker 2: Ben would care. But I think that this is different
Speaker 2: because he's literally a dance so that goes on a
Speaker 2: national tour that women like pay to go and see.
Speaker 2: There's like thirty women coming to my hands. It's quite big. So,
Speaker 2: if anything, I just thought it would be entertainment more
Speaker 2: than like like a bucket list ticking, Like it's not
Speaker 2: like before I die, I want lap dance from training Tatum, Like,
Speaker 2: that's not what my bucket list to do before I die.
Speaker 3: I'm still I'm still sensing that, yes, we should probably
Speaker 3: organize this, But anyway, I need you you get on
Speaker 3: it after this record, Brittany.
Speaker 2: But seriously, what do you guys think? Do you want
Speaker 2: him on record? Laura? Do you want him? Do you
Speaker 2: want Magic Mind? I feel like it would be good
Speaker 2: for the comedy factor, like I would enjoy the I
Speaker 2: would enjoy the lolls dance and the comedy is he's
Speaker 2: a comedy performer, right, I would enjoy it.
Speaker 3: For the last I think it would bring an energy.
Speaker 3: We didn't have a stripper at my hands. What we
Speaker 3: had was a guy who got naked and we all
Speaker 3: drew him at like nine am in the morning.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: It was weird.
Speaker 2: It was like we walked.
Speaker 4: Upstairs and that was just a naked person in the
Speaker 4: middle of the laundry.
Speaker 3: Also, can I say so, we booked that house that
Speaker 3: we stayed on on like a booking app, and everyone
Speaker 3: put up photos of this like nude guy at nine
Speaker 3: am and us drawing him, and the person who we
Speaker 3: booked the house off got really angry because they were like,
Speaker 3: you're having a raging party.
Speaker 1: I was like, guys, we are.
Speaker 2: Have English breakfast.
Speaker 1: I was like, it was nine am. No one was drinking.
Speaker 3: A few people had a mimosa, but everyone was stone cold, sober,
Speaker 3: just drawing a flacid penis.
Speaker 2: It was a life drawing class. It was oddly sophisticated.
Speaker 2: I thought facisticated. It was so physisticated that we were
Speaker 2: sitting there in the corner as a natural light. The
Speaker 2: sunrise was beaming on our face on the flaccid penis
Speaker 2: drinking like literally English breakfastigue.
Speaker 1: It was a wholesome hens.
Speaker 3: I feel like people have rages and mine after I
Speaker 3: think after having two kids and having a HENS party,
Speaker 3: I was just happy to have a weekend to myself totally.
Speaker 2: Well, like I'm on record, I'm not going to ask
Speaker 2: for the stripper.
Speaker 1: Well give disappointed if we don't have it.
Speaker 2: I can't answer that. You don't you know me well enough.
Speaker 2: I would never say if I wanted it.
Speaker 4: Funny for people watching on YouTube that audio listeners.
Speaker 3: If you're watching this on YouTube, you'll get a good
Speaker 3: giggle out of that. So I have something to update
Speaker 3: you guys on and it's very niche. It's very insular,
Speaker 3: but bear with me. On Thursday night last week it
Speaker 3: was the am CO Awards, So for people who work
Speaker 3: in social content online you might know what it is.
Speaker 3: The am CO Awards is kind of like the Social
Speaker 3: Media Awards or the Influencer Awards, content creator awards that
Speaker 3: take into account like all content creators across Australia, similar
Speaker 3: to how we have the Podcast Awards that we are
Speaker 3: always banging on about like once a year it's a
Speaker 3: very similar thing.
Speaker 1: But for people who are content.
Speaker 2: Creators, it's Industry award. It's a huge event.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's an interesting one because I think,
Speaker 3: as we all know, influencers have a bit of a
Speaker 3: dirty name still, and there is quite a scale when
Speaker 3: it comes to the type of work that influencers or
Speaker 3: content creators do.
Speaker 1: They're not all cut the same, and the reason for
Speaker 1: that is because.
Speaker 3: They're like influencers are their own little micro business, right,
Speaker 3: So some people have better business acumen than other people,
Speaker 3: and that's just the reality of it. So Matt every
Speaker 3: year he enters the am CO Awards and he won.
Speaker 3: I don't know whether it was Content Creator of the
Speaker 3: Year or whether it was the best content for what
Speaker 3: he does, which is like he's kind of in a
Speaker 3: parenting category, right, Yeah, for likening dads and also like
Speaker 3: the brand stuff that he makes, and Matt takes that
Speaker 3: side of his job very seriously. The reason, brit you
Speaker 3: were dropping smoothie straight down in.
Speaker 1: Front of yourself. You're a fucking hot mess.
Speaker 4: Today's thinking about history, Farns.
Speaker 2: I've had five hours sleep, Hash take dance keep going.
Speaker 1: I'm a dancer. So Matt takes content creation very seriously.
Speaker 3: And the reason for that is is because you guys
Speaker 3: might not know this, but before Matt went on The Bachelor,
Speaker 3: he worked in marketing and he worked in like brand management,
Speaker 3: so he used to come up with like a lot
Speaker 3: of the brand concepts that the agency he worked at
Speaker 3: would end up rolling out into campaigns.
Speaker 2: So very good at what he does. He's so good,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's often why lay the ads that
Speaker 2: he creates on social media are. They're like very funny
Speaker 2: and they're kind of a cut above. I would say,
Speaker 2: without being too biased, i am fucking the talent, but
Speaker 2: lit a bit by sambit, please do what he.
Speaker 3: Does, I'm fucking the talent. Also, the money he makes
Speaker 3: goes into our bank account, so yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Click like, got it save.
Speaker 3: So he entered the AMC Awards under the parenting category,
Speaker 3: right like you could be like a mummy blogger or
Speaker 3: you could be a parenting blogger.
Speaker 1: This year it was a bit interesting.
Speaker 3: So Thursday night rolls around, it is like the big
Speaker 3: Awards ceremony, and.
Speaker 1: Matt casually says to me, he goes, oh, it's a
Speaker 1: bit weird.
Speaker 3: This year, the pets category didn't get enough entries, so
Speaker 3: they've merged the pets category with the parenting category, like
Speaker 3: they've taken And when I say pets, I don't mean
Speaker 3: like people who talk about their pets.
Speaker 1: I mean the pet is the person you know.
Speaker 2: Where pet content creator yea, like when you when you.
Speaker 1: Dress your dog up or your dog has an Instagram.
Speaker 2: So am Co just merged people who are parents and
Speaker 2: actual pets together as the one category. Why would that
Speaker 2: be the category that you merge it with. They have
Speaker 2: nothing to do with each other.
Speaker 1: I was like, why not merge it with like cooking.
Speaker 2: Or lifestyle lifestyle makeup?
Speaker 1: I get makeup, I get them.
Speaker 2: Saw not tested on an animal like contour and chiaa.
Speaker 3: I get the thought that they're kind of like, oh,
Speaker 3: I guess you know, like if you have a pet,
Speaker 3: like you're a pet parent. But this isn't even pet
Speaker 3: parent content. It's the actual pets. So it's like it's
Speaker 3: like pet personality.
Speaker 2: Like the Hamsters Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Matt and the pets and the parenting and
Speaker 1: the pets.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid they all got amalgamated into this one
Speaker 2: parenting in pet category. How many pets entered, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But there was I have no idea how many people
Speaker 3: were entered, but there was five people who were shortlisted.
Speaker 3: There were four humans and one pet. Anyway, it comes down,
Speaker 3: it's like we're all sitting there the suspense. They're like,
Speaker 3: and the finalist, ah, and I am gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be honest, Like I was like quietly confident in Matt.
Speaker 3: I really was, you know. I started recording him from
Speaker 3: the side because I was like, just in case, yeah,
Speaker 3: obviously he's not gonna he might not win it, but
Speaker 3: I was like, in case he does good content that
Speaker 3: he can then use later on, you.
Speaker 2: Want that moment.
Speaker 3: So I'm filming him and they're calling out the short
Speaker 3: list and they go and the winner is beloved.
Speaker 2: Cat Chef Princess Honeybell and everyone, so, what's her name
Speaker 2: on me ow cat Chef Princess Honeybell, who has six
Speaker 2: hundred thousand followers. She's a cat.
Speaker 1: She's a cat, a real cute cat.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna lose, She's not pretty privileged.
Speaker 3: She's a ginger cat that wears like really cute berets
Speaker 3: and pink vest. But everyone around us because everyone was like, yes, Matt,
Speaker 3: you've got this, and then the fact that he lost
Speaker 3: to a cat, it was like this real duplicious room.
Speaker 1: Half the people were.
Speaker 2: Like yes, Haney Bell, and the other half were just
Speaker 2: absolutely fucking hysterically laughing, and like, imagine the morale of
Speaker 2: someone who loses to a cat doesn't even have a
Speaker 2: posable thumbs a feeline.
Speaker 1: Matt lost? How does it even post?
Speaker 2: Was the cat there?
Speaker 1: What was it? Sixceptance speak?
Speaker 2: Was the cat there? Do you know? Matt had a
Speaker 2: Demi Moore moment? That's an exact Demi Moore moment. Demi
Speaker 2: Moore had a moment at the Oscar is just like
Speaker 2: this week where everyone thought she was a shoeing. Everyone
Speaker 2: was filming her exactly like you were filming Matt, Like
Speaker 2: the Oscar cameras were on Demi and because she's won
Speaker 2: the whole award season for substance for that real life protest,
Speaker 2: and she it looked like it was shoeing. And then
Speaker 2: she didn't win. She won to someone that no one expected,
Speaker 2: and the camera was on her face, and it caught
Speaker 2: her face and it caught her looking to everyone, and
Speaker 2: then the camera quickly panned away but Matt had the
Speaker 2: Demi Moore moment.
Speaker 3: But that's also such a setup because the cameraman know
Speaker 3: who the winners are going to be.
Speaker 1: So that's unfair.
Speaker 2: That is, it's also unfair to lose to a cat.
Speaker 4: And the parents of category even have kittens.
Speaker 1: The cow the cat's never even had kids.
Speaker 2: Goddamn it, they had sex, so well maybe, I mean
Speaker 2: that's not Princess honey Bell would never do such.
Speaker 3: No, she wouldn't have so okay. So the thing that's
Speaker 3: even funnier than this is like obviously everyone had a chuckle.
Speaker 3: And I don't say this against the cat Instagram page,
Speaker 3: like if you go on, no, because the content creator
Speaker 3: behind it, the woman who actually creates these videos, like
Speaker 3: you would have to have the patience of a saint
Speaker 3: to create the type of content that she creates alongside
Speaker 3: her cat.
Speaker 1: Or a really well trained cat or a.
Speaker 3: Really well trained cat. But the content is great. It's
Speaker 3: just the irony of losing to a cat in the
Speaker 3: parenting category. But the thing that kind of was really
Speaker 3: the icing on the cake. So what happens is that
Speaker 3: there's one hundred and seventy two winners of the night,
Speaker 3: and of those, one hundred and seventy two winners.
Speaker 1: They choose the content creator of all of Australia.
Speaker 3: So I'm talking like, you've got Yeah, you've got your
Speaker 3: Sky Wheatley's, You've got your Laura Henshaw's, you've got your
Speaker 3: Steph Claire Smith's.
Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking think of any like.
Speaker 2: You've got comedy, You've got everything.
Speaker 3: Your favorite content creator online, Like everybody is in categories
Speaker 3: against each other, and it's like the finalest of the
Speaker 3: number one best in the country. Stop and I would
Speaker 3: just like to tell you who who Australia's number one
Speaker 3: content creator is.
Speaker 2: Chef Honeybee Kitty Cat.
Speaker 3: It's beloved cat, Chef Princess honeybell a cat is.
Speaker 1: A better content creator than all the humans in Australia. Fair.
Speaker 1: This is pre the cat didn't come. She didn't even
Speaker 1: accept her.
Speaker 2: Do you know what is the most devastating thing?
Speaker 1: Are you still thinking about a bridge? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I actually had a mind fuck, I'm blanked. Do you
Speaker 2: know what the most devastating thing is? I feel like
Speaker 2: if you want to lose to an animal, it'd be
Speaker 2: easier to lose to a dog. Don't you think it's
Speaker 2: the fact that it's a cat.
Speaker 3: I think for Matt it would have been easier because
Speaker 3: he quite likes dogs and he's a little bit anti cats,
Speaker 3: so I think it really hit a sore spot for him.
Speaker 3: But I'm all for it. I love cats, and I
Speaker 3: also I genuinely mean this. The content that she creates
Speaker 3: is incredible. It's very very good, it's very clever. I
Speaker 3: don't want anyone to think that I'm slagging it. I
Speaker 3: just found it deeply funny that a cat was better
Speaker 3: than every human.
Speaker 2: No a, yeah, absolutely, to a new level.
Speaker 4: But do you think it's actually nicer to kind of like,
Speaker 4: at least lose a cat. No, I mean like he
Speaker 4: lost in his category, but then the cat also won
Speaker 4: all of the categories.
Speaker 2: No, because the cat would have won the whole thing anyway. Fine,
Speaker 2: but at least Matt would have won his category and
Speaker 2: the cat could have wanted to take cat cat to category.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Perfect, But there, I don't know. I'm not about about inclusiveness,
Speaker 2: but not when you're putting animals in parenting and then
Speaker 2: the parent loses the category to the cat. That's harsh.
Speaker 2: Congrat's honeybell chef, Princess cat.
Speaker 1: I think it's okay. I don't think. I think that's fine.
Speaker 1: He's absolutely okay. He's recovered.
Speaker 2: He is devo next week.
Speaker 4: Bust is involved in all of your content, and that's
Speaker 4: like I'm pivoting.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I just posted a video of Busted today.
Speaker 2: Start now to New Year, K you me.
Speaker 1: Petstock Foundation, National Pet Adoption Month is coming up. Everyone.
Speaker 3: Something that everybody is talking about at the moment is
Speaker 3: the absolute shit show that is Married at First Sight?
Speaker 2: Real hot mess, isn't it well?
Speaker 3: And I mean, we have a lot of feelings about
Speaker 3: it because I feel conflicted. I have always been the
Speaker 3: one that has said I really enjoy the show. I
Speaker 3: have love watching it because I have loved the social
Speaker 3: commentary that the show creates and the ability to dissect
Speaker 3: really toxic behaviors and then have conversations about them and
Speaker 3: shine light on them.
Speaker 2: So I've always said I've not been able to watch
Speaker 2: it because I detest it, Like I can't get around
Speaker 2: almost any of the themes or scenes on that show.
Speaker 2: I've never been able to. I've tried because I want
Speaker 2: to be able to have the conversations, and I enjoy
Speaker 2: the conversations we have about the topics Laura, but watching
Speaker 2: it has always been so hard for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the thing.
Speaker 3: Is so like this year, as you guys know, I
Speaker 3: was deep in the I'm a celebrity, get me out
Speaker 3: of here chat, so like I've not been on top
Speaker 3: of what was happening in this season and married at
Speaker 3: first sight. But something that I have noticed throughout every
Speaker 3: season thus far the reason why it is the only
Speaker 3: free to air production that is currently still on normal
Speaker 3: free to air TV that is able to garner the
Speaker 3: type of viewership that it does, Like it is still
Speaker 3: getting the most insane views. It is the only reality
Speaker 3: TV show that exists where people come to work and
Speaker 3: they're still talking about it. It's the water cooler chat
Speaker 3: that once upon a time The Bachelor used to provide,
Speaker 3: but every single other show has just fallen by the way.
Speaker 2: It's because it continues to push so many boundaries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is it.
Speaker 3: The reason why every single year the ratings seem to
Speaker 3: increase is because it's almost like the Jerry Springer effect
Speaker 3: that you were talking about recently, kish this idea that
Speaker 3: every season something more fucking crazy, more outrageous, things that
Speaker 3: really sit and make you feel so deeply uncomfortable in
Speaker 3: terms of your moral compass. We're pushing further and further
Speaker 3: every single season, and I feel as though the conversations
Speaker 3: that have come out of this season of merret at
Speaker 3: First Site is really the first time that I've looked
Speaker 3: at it and been like, Okay, what we're watching is
Speaker 3: not congruent with the social commentary gain that we're receiving
Speaker 3: out the back end of merrit at First Site.
Speaker 1: Now, for some of you.
Speaker 3: Who might not be on top of what has been
Speaker 3: happening or haven't read the news in the last couple
Speaker 3: of days, there's been one really significant incident. There's actually
Speaker 3: been loads of smaller things, but one very significant incident
Speaker 3: that has really taken over the public discourse around this.
Speaker 3: That is that Paul Antoine, who's thirty one years old,
Speaker 3: he punched a hole in the door of Karna, his
Speaker 3: wife's apartment, So he was in a bedroom. He punched
Speaker 3: a hole into the door, and it wasn't caught on camera,
Speaker 3: but it was discussed heavily around his quote unquote remorse
Speaker 3: and his reaction to why he did it. Now, to
Speaker 3: set that up and to give you kind of the
Speaker 3: context as to why Karna had spoken about how she
Speaker 3: had had a sexual relationships with a rapper, and she
Speaker 3: told people in the group Paul was so overcome by
Speaker 3: his feeling of disrespect, his absolute.
Speaker 2: Ego, innes syndrome.
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to call it, that he was so
Speaker 3: enraged by this. He made it away to Karina that
Speaker 3: he was, and that he handled his emotions around it
Speaker 3: so poorly that it resulted in him being so filled
Speaker 3: with anger that he couldn't and I don't want to
Speaker 3: say he couldn't control it, because absolutely everyone can, but
Speaker 3: he ended up punching a wall. The reason why that
Speaker 3: this has become such a point of conversation, and it
Speaker 3: has really, I think crossed such an incredible line is
Speaker 3: because this idea that violence as the outcome for not
Speaker 3: being able to control your emotions, being played out on
Speaker 3: national free to air TV, seems to go so deeply
Speaker 3: against all of the conversations and all of the progress
Speaker 3: that we're making in terms of domestic violence, violence against women,
Speaker 3: intimidating behavior, and I think that people are really now
Speaker 3: calling for the show to show some sort of responsibility
Speaker 3: to this safety and the welfare of the participants that
Speaker 3: they have within the show. I would love to just
Speaker 3: play this little part for you, because obviously the act
Speaker 3: of punching Adoor is incredibly intimidating, especially when you take
Speaker 3: into context the fact that Karina and Paul don't know
Speaker 3: each other well, they've been dating for a short period
Speaker 3: of time. The type of intimidation that that creates in
Speaker 3: an environment where you're expected to sleep in the same
Speaker 3: room as your partner is something that I think calls
Speaker 3: for a lot of questions. But there was another side
Speaker 3: of this, and it was his apology afterwards, where he
Speaker 3: managed to re victimize himself and blame Karna for the
Speaker 3: reasons that he behaved the way he behaved.
Speaker 5: To have listen to this, I was really upset and
Speaker 5: I was so so angry at that that comment in
Speaker 5: the cab. It just felt I felt so uncomfortable and disrespected,
Speaker 5: Like I was just like, well, what the help? I
Speaker 5: just felt like an idiot.
Speaker 6: I couldn't really take your apology sincerely because I was like,
Speaker 6: you're saying you're sorry, but then you're adding it butt
Speaker 6: does that make sense? I just wanted some space to
Speaker 6: get my head straight because I'm the kind of person
Speaker 6: like when I when I get held emotional, I can't
Speaker 6: have a constructive chat. And I feel like it's the
Speaker 6: fact that you couldn't give me that space I needed.
Speaker 6: You got to all upset at me, that the fact
Speaker 6: that I wanted to leave the girl for a whoopie.
Speaker 2: Would you were really you were really angry.
Speaker 6: At me, and you were like, well, if if that's
Speaker 6: what you want to just yeah, you go like, I'm
Speaker 6: your wife, and you just you kind of you just you.
Speaker 2: You were like, then leave and you you just get
Speaker 2: hell upset and.
Speaker 4: Relaxed, so dramatic, and it's pissing me off.
Speaker 2: Now I'm getting angry because you saw for nothing. So
Speaker 2: straight off the back of that, you would think, oh cool,
Speaker 2: this is the end of him. There is no way
Speaker 2: he'll be allowed to continue on this show. But then
Speaker 2: it cuts to the experts that say, hey, do you
Speaker 2: know what it looks like he's apologetic. He can continue on.
Speaker 2: Karina also said she wanted him to stay on the show.
Speaker 2: He said he wanted to continue on the show, and
Speaker 2: they just allowed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was this.
Speaker 3: I mean, the experts themselves reprimanded him on the couch
Speaker 3: for his like a boring behavior, but instead of there
Speaker 3: being real life consequences, which is if you display violence.
Speaker 3: You should be removed from the show, but also not
Speaker 3: just removed from the show. There's like an obligation of
Speaker 3: safety that the production has to Karna and also to
Speaker 3: other contestants. Rather than putting volatile people who clearly do
Speaker 3: not have the emotional eq to be able to control
Speaker 3: themselves on a TV show, they prioritize production over safety
Speaker 3: these instances.
Speaker 1: Now this has gone further.
Speaker 3: There's currently an inquiry from Safe Work New South Wales.
Speaker 3: The department is looking into the incident, according to the
Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph and also Channel nine and endemol Shine has
Speaker 3: released a statement. Now I wanted to read this because
Speaker 3: there's a couple of parts of this that I wanted
Speaker 3: to really unpack based on the experience that we have
Speaker 3: had when we did reality TV quite a while ago.
Speaker 3: So nine and endemol Shine Australia have treated this matter
Speaker 3: extremely seriously.
Speaker 1: Our first priority.
Speaker 3: At all times has been the well being and safety
Speaker 3: of the participants and after extensive consultation with Karina, she
Speaker 3: wanted to remain in the experiment with Paul. We continue
Speaker 3: to provide support for Karina and for Paul. Nine and
Speaker 3: endemol Shine take their obligation in respect to the health
Speaker 3: and wellbeing of all participants of this program. Extremely seriously.
Speaker 3: All participants have access to the show's psychologists and welfare
Speaker 3: resources during filming, during broadcasts, and once the program has ended. Now, firstly,
Speaker 3: I think it should be relevant whether Karina or Paul
Speaker 3: want to stay in the experiment. For Koreina safety, she
Speaker 3: should not be allowed to stay. For Paul's behavior, he
Speaker 3: should not be allowed to stay. There should be consequences
Speaker 3: for violence. The second part to this is, and I
Speaker 3: don't have the answers to this, but I can only
Speaker 3: give my understanding from when I was on The Bachelor
Speaker 3: and what the rules and regulations were at the time.
Speaker 3: So when we were on The Bachelor, we were also
Speaker 3: provided with a psychologist to speak to. Her name was Raya,
Speaker 3: and she was a lovely woman. I have no issues
Speaker 3: with the psychologists that we spoke to. There were multiple
Speaker 3: times when I booked in to go and have a
Speaker 3: conversation with her. What I was completely unaware about, and
Speaker 3: what was not described to us as contestants, was that
Speaker 3: every single conversation we had was then repeated back to producers.
Speaker 3: So anything you spoke to your psychiatrist about could be
Speaker 3: used as content against you. It is not a closed loop.
Speaker 3: It is not a normal situation where you speak to
Speaker 3: a psychiatrist and there is privacy and tru and you
Speaker 3: can get like a real resolution. I don't know whether EndemolShine,
Speaker 3: whether the setup is the same, or whether over the
Speaker 3: past seven years there's been advances in this, but I
Speaker 3: would dare say that the producers on this show know
Speaker 3: so much about the intricacies of how these relationships work.
Speaker 3: And also it is their job and it is their
Speaker 3: obligation to make the best, the most cutting content that
Speaker 3: they possibly can.
Speaker 2: So my experience from The Bachelor and my psychologists I
Speaker 2: also had Raya was slightly different. Laura and I spoke
Speaker 2: to her about it, so I also booked into the
Speaker 2: psychologists and I just straight up asked her, is this
Speaker 2: a safe space or do you report back at what
Speaker 2: I say to producers? And she said, whilst it is
Speaker 2: a safe place and we do not go back and
Speaker 2: tell them everything that it has happened, if I think
Speaker 2: something needs to be told, I will say it, And
Speaker 2: that's the way she worded it. So she said to me,
Speaker 2: I definitely don't leave here and go and tell them
Speaker 2: what the session was. But if you say something that
Speaker 2: I think could be worrying or that they should need
Speaker 2: to know, I will say, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: she was just covering her bite. And I do believe
Speaker 2: that they don't leave and just say, hey, here's a
Speaker 2: written word for word of what the session was. But
Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is that does mean it's
Speaker 2: not a safe space. That does mean that everything that
Speaker 2: you say can and will probably be used against you.
Speaker 3: The point that I have an issue with there and
Speaker 3: in what you're saying, Brit is that it leaves it
Speaker 3: up to the discretion of the psychologist who is contracted
Speaker 3: by EndemolShine to choose what information they tell the producers.
Speaker 3: But the producers aren't mental health workers. They're not people
Speaker 3: who have your psychological well being at their top priority.
Speaker 3: The producer's top priority is to produce a show. So
Speaker 3: it's an interesting dynamic to me when a psychologist says, oh,
Speaker 3: this is something that I'm concerned about, and that information
Speaker 3: is passed down to a producer.
Speaker 1: I sit with conflict in myself around this.
Speaker 3: Because we spoke to John Aiken from Married at First
Speaker 3: Sight earlier this year on the radio show, and when
Speaker 3: we asked him about some of the really troubling aspects
Speaker 3: like the rain king of people's esthetic, where you rank
Speaker 3: your partner. It's a you know, it's been a staple
Speaker 3: of Merriat at First Sight for a really long time.
Speaker 3: His response was what I have felt about the show
Speaker 3: for a long time. He was like, Look, it is
Speaker 3: a test on one emotional EQ and also it's a
Speaker 3: really great talking piece for the public to be able
Speaker 3: to see in real time, like water toxic behaviors. We
Speaker 3: have these incredible conversations that come off the back of
Speaker 3: mass where we're able to really dissect a toxic relationship
Speaker 3: in real time, something that we never get the opportunity
Speaker 3: to do because we never get to see that insight
Speaker 3: into behaviors like gas lighting, behaviors like manipulation. But now
Speaker 3: I'm left at the point where I'm like, has it
Speaker 3: gone too far? Is the public discourse not in any
Speaker 3: way beneficial or is it outweighing the damage that it's
Speaker 3: doing to these participants. And the reason why I say
Speaker 3: that and I kind of still sit in this gray
Speaker 3: area is because this has happened on national TV. It
Speaker 3: is a boring and it is wrong. However, we are
Speaker 3: talking about it, we raise more conversations and more light
Speaker 3: around what violence looks like, what constitutes violence, Like somebody
Speaker 3: might be able to rationalize, oh, well, he didn't hit her,
Speaker 3: He only hit a door, and we're able to sit
Speaker 3: here and say, well, no, hitting a door is incredibly
Speaker 3: intimidating behavior.
Speaker 2: And I absolutely agree with everything he said. Where the
Speaker 2: problem comes in, and this is some of the comments
Speaker 2: that the experts made. Mel Schilling said, this is not
Speaker 2: normal behavior, sweetheart, This is not how you show love.
Speaker 2: This is deeply troubling. Now, this was off the back
Speaker 2: of Karna really downplaying the incident and saying it was
Speaker 2: just an emotional response, and then John Aiken backed her
Speaker 2: up and said this behavior is toxic, inappropriate, and unacceptable,
Speaker 2: which is a lie because it is acceptable because you're
Speaker 2: still continuing on the show. And then he goes on
Speaker 2: and says, if there is any type of violent behavior,
Speaker 2: you're out. But that's also not true because we've seen
Speaker 2: this violent behavior and you're in. So it is acceptable
Speaker 2: on this show, and it is showing signs of violent behavior. Yes,
Speaker 2: he didn't physically lay hands on her, but we know
Speaker 2: that's not the issue. It's intimidation. I agree that math
Speaker 2: starts incredible conversations with people, and it does continue important
Speaker 2: conversations like this, but that is only well and good
Speaker 2: if we follow through and it has consequences. And he
Speaker 2: was removed from the show because then we've said, hey,
Speaker 2: we're starting this conversation and we're showing you it's not okay.
Speaker 2: All we've done is start the conversation, but we've still
Speaker 2: accepted that it's okay to continue on with that behavior.
Speaker 2: So these two for me, are not congruent, and that's
Speaker 2: where my issue.
Speaker 3: Lies with the lack of punishment. I also think it's
Speaker 3: really interesting. It is very different. I think male violence
Speaker 3: against women is an incredibly different conversation, and it's something
Speaker 3: that literally at the moment, everyone is working so hard
Speaker 3: to speak as loudly about as possible, and we've all
Speaker 3: seen a shift in the public discourse around that over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But there has been violence
Speaker 3: on married at First Sight before, and I think it
Speaker 3: would be remiss of us to not talk about the
Speaker 3: violence between Olivia Fraser and Domenica from twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: something of which at the time very interestingly because Olivia
Speaker 3: Fraser was the villain we were super dismissive of what happened.
Speaker 3: So you guys might remember there was an altercation at
Speaker 3: a retreat between Dominica and Olivia, sitting at a table
Speaker 3: that were sitting across from each other, with some other
Speaker 3: people there as well. Dominica got very, very angry, and
Speaker 3: she smashed a glass down on the table.
Speaker 1: And then was extremely.
Speaker 3: Intimidating in her body language, pointing at Olivia while Olivia
Speaker 3: was seated down. Now, I know that both those women
Speaker 3: had spoken to each other poorly and had done different
Speaker 3: things that were triggering prior to that, But the intimidating,
Speaker 3: violent behavior that was shown by Dominica at the start,
Speaker 3: we completely brushed over that.
Speaker 1: As a society.
Speaker 3: If anything, people actually heralded Dominica for being European and passionate.
Speaker 1: I remember that was a discourse around it.
Speaker 2: Which is a load of rubbish. It is intimidation.
Speaker 3: You know, she didn't wave a glass at Olivia. I
Speaker 3: know that there was like some mixed information there, but
Speaker 3: imagine sitting at a table with a group of girls
Speaker 3: and having someone smash a wine glass on a table
Speaker 3: and stand over you and scream at you.
Speaker 1: Olivia.
Speaker 3: Fraser has come out and she said this is not
Speaker 3: the first time that endemol Shine Australia and Channel nine
Speaker 3: have excused violence despite what they preach. If there was
Speaker 3: a zero tolerance policy, then after such displays of violence,
Speaker 3: participants would rightfully be removed from the show immediately. When
Speaker 3: something violent happened to me, it was trivialized to start with,
Speaker 3: but essentially I was told to just get over it.
Speaker 3: I wanted to call the police, and I was told
Speaker 3: I would be risking the jobs of hundreds of people,
Speaker 3: and I was gilded out of something that I wanted
Speaker 3: to do to protect myself.
Speaker 2: Which is horrible.
Speaker 3: When I made it clear that I no longer felt
Speaker 3: safe living next door to my aggressor, they made a
Speaker 3: promise that I would never see her unless it was
Speaker 3: filming a dinner party or a commitment ceremony. Instead, they
Speaker 3: sent the aggressor knocking on my door with a full
Speaker 3: film crew and producers, knowing that they were breaking the
Speaker 3: promise to me, and knowing yet again that I would
Speaker 3: feel unsafe in the workplace. They wanted to exploit me
Speaker 3: feeling safe as much as they possibly could. They wanted
Speaker 3: to violate my sense of security I had living in
Speaker 3: that environment, and they did a good job of that.
Speaker 3: I'm sure so many of you will remember that Olivia
Speaker 3: Fraser came out really as the villain of that season,
Speaker 3: and you know, I think a lot of it comes
Speaker 3: down to production. I think that there were two sides
Speaker 3: to every story in that situation. I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: she was absolved of the villain edit and not entirely
Speaker 3: undeserving of it. However, there was very obvious violence that
Speaker 3: was displayed, and like we said, and like Olivia said,
Speaker 3: this is not the first time that it's played out
Speaker 3: on national TV. But I do think that the tolerance
Speaker 3: for it is shifting now, and not the tolerance from
Speaker 3: a production perspective, but the tolerance as a viewer. We
Speaker 3: don't want to be seeing it emulated on TV, and
Speaker 3: I think the public very much are taking a stance
Speaker 3: against it now.
Speaker 4: It's interesting you say that, Laura, because I actually saw
Speaker 4: the public commentary about this situation before I saw the
Speaker 4: actual scenes of Married at First Sight, and when I
Speaker 4: was reading it, I was like, Oh, something really bad
Speaker 4: has happened here, something really, really, really violent, something incredibly
Speaker 4: unacceptable has happened, because there has been like outcry would
Speaker 4: be underplaying it of people saying this show should be canceled,
Speaker 4: this person should have been removed. I cannot believe that
Speaker 4: this is happening. And when I saw it, and I
Speaker 4: would like for everyone to listen to the rest of
Speaker 4: my paragraph before you judge me for thinking this, because
Speaker 4: my immediate reaction was, Oh, that's not as bad as
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be. I realized that
Speaker 4: it is absolutely an act of violence and that it
Speaker 4: shouldn't be something that is accepted on television. It shouldn't
Speaker 4: be it's something that's accepted anywhere in any of our relationships.
Speaker 4: But I think that the standard for what we are
Speaker 4: willing to accept when it comes to violence on our
Speaker 4: screens and when it comes to perpetrators of violence on
Speaker 4: our screens is so fucking low that I was like, hmm,
Speaker 4: it's interesting to me that people are taking such a
Speaker 4: stance on this. And I went yesterday and I had
Speaker 4: a bit of a look at people who have been convicted,
Speaker 4: not allegations, convicted of violent crimes within Australia who are
Speaker 4: currently in media on our screens, people like Ben Cousins.
Speaker 4: He was jailed three times for drug possession, making threats
Speaker 4: breaking of violence, restraining order, and stalking of his ex partner.
Speaker 1: He was on.
Speaker 4: Reality TV last year and he got a breakfast radio
Speaker 4: job three weeks ago in Perth.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely insane.
Speaker 4: Matt Lodge currently plays in the NRL. In twenty fifteen,
Speaker 4: he went into a rampage in New York City. This
Speaker 4: is a bit of a long one. He followed two
Speaker 4: tourists into an apartment lobby and told them this is
Speaker 4: the night you die. He then assaulted a resident of
Speaker 4: an apartment block who attempted to intervene, and broke into
Speaker 4: this apartment where a man's wife and children were hiding.
Speaker 4: He smashed glasses and plates and attempted to punch his
Speaker 4: way through the locked bathroom to where they were hiding.
Speaker 4: He avoided a one year prison sentence with a plea deal.
Speaker 4: Wayne Kerry. He was on SAS in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: We know the SAS lava redumption from story. He commentated
Speaker 4: the AFL for ages in a really high, well respected position.
Speaker 4: In two thousand and seven, he played guilty to two
Speaker 4: counts of battery on a law enforcement officer after kicking
Speaker 4: a female police officer in the face. And there are
Speaker 4: also allegations of glassing, ex partners, violence within his relationships.
Speaker 4: All that kind of thing has existed for a really
Speaker 4: long time. Just last year, Bondi Rescue star Andrew Reid
Speaker 4: was found guilty of domestic violence and common assault. So
Speaker 4: that was just in December. So my point being is like, yes,
Speaker 4: this is violence. It shouldn't be accepted, but we accept
Speaker 4: violent people on our screens so much in Australia that
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's interesting to me that this is where
Speaker 4: we seem to be drawing the line. Why are we
Speaker 4: not drawing the line? Do you know what all of
Speaker 4: these people you know?
Speaker 2: Because usually it's not that we accept it. This definitely
Speaker 2: comes down to the fact that men get away with
Speaker 2: so much more than anybody else. It makes the news
Speaker 2: cycle and then it's done. We don't sit on it
Speaker 2: for long enough and people forget. There'll be so many
Speaker 2: people listening to your list that you just read it
Speaker 2: off that are like, hang on, that's right, because because
Speaker 2: we comment on it once, we brush it under the carpet,
Speaker 2: and we also say, oh, well, he is an NRL
Speaker 2: player that's sort of in their culture. It's almost that
Speaker 2: it's expected, so we say it's Okay.
Speaker 4: Also, I just want to make it clear these are
Speaker 4: the people that I could find that have been convicted.
Speaker 4: If I was here to discuss the allegations of violence
Speaker 4: of people who are currently on our TV screens, we
Speaker 4: would probably be here until tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Cash, I know exactly what you mean. I
Speaker 3: think the difference is is that when you see someone
Speaker 3: or hear's someone like Ben Cousins on radio talking about
Speaker 3: some silly thing that he read in the news, you're
Speaker 3: not hearing him in real time manipulate someone about the
Speaker 3: assault or about the thing that they've done. And I
Speaker 3: think that that's why it was very jarring for a
Speaker 3: lot of Australians watching this play out, which felt like
Speaker 3: in real time on married at first sight, because it
Speaker 3: was like an act of violence happened, and then we're
Speaker 3: watching him weasele his way with the excuse, with the
Speaker 3: gas lighting around, going from apologizing to say but the
Speaker 3: reason I did it is because of you. It was
Speaker 3: so startling, I think to watch it all play out
Speaker 3: so specifically that it made it impossible for people to
Speaker 3: deny it, whereas we are able to deny it every
Speaker 3: day for so many reasons that these men who are
Speaker 3: and have been convicted of really fucking horrible things, in
Speaker 3: most cases domestic violence, and they're still able to go
Speaker 3: and have careers in jobs where they are essentially influential
Speaker 3: people in our society and held up as being important
Speaker 3: in people that we listen.
Speaker 4: To and interesting, and we want to see them on
Speaker 4: our screens. And the only reason that I wanted to
Speaker 4: go into that is because I think that if we
Speaker 4: are going to have a standard of we are not
Speaker 4: going to accept violence on our screens, he should have
Speaker 4: been kicked out of the show, which is what I
Speaker 4: think the general public think. People are saying the show
Speaker 4: should be canceled. I'm like, if you have a zero
Speaker 4: tolerance to violence, I don't know if there would be
Speaker 4: a single reality TV show that would exist. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: we need to uperstand it is my point. By no
Speaker 4: means want to say that if X definitely y. I
Speaker 4: don't want to say if someone punches a hole in
Speaker 4: a door, they are definitely going to go on to
Speaker 4: become a domestic abuser. I mean, each individual's circumstance will
Speaker 4: be different. And I do also want to believe that
Speaker 4: people can reform and they can learn from their bad
Speaker 4: behavior and they can change. And that applies to the
Speaker 4: men that I was speaking about earlier, where you know,
Speaker 4: the men who were currently on our screens who have
Speaker 4: been convicted of violent assault, like some of it happened
Speaker 4: a long time ago, and whether they've gone through the
Speaker 4: personal development that's fantastic. I really fucking hope that they have.
Speaker 4: But you forfeit the privilege of being someone who is
Speaker 4: heralded in entertainment if you are going to do that,
Speaker 4: And I think that's for me where I draw the
Speaker 4: line of like we are having fantastic conversations about the
Speaker 4: nuances of domestic violence and the micro aggressions that can
Speaker 4: lead to bigger aggressions.
Speaker 1: I don't even think hitting a wall is a microaggression. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think punching a wall is an escalator. It's an
Speaker 1: intimidating aggression.
Speaker 4: I think that the outrage against maths he is justified,
Speaker 4: but I think we need to apply it to every
Speaker 4: single show that has a violent perpetrator on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I think as well.
Speaker 3: The one positive thing that's come out of this, I've
Speaker 3: had some conversations with friends who have said that they
Speaker 3: don't equate the violence of a man punching something as
Speaker 3: the same as someone who shows traits of domestic violence.
Speaker 3: And it was an interesting take to me because I
Speaker 3: was like, why is it that you are able to
Speaker 3: allow a man to be so enable to deal with
Speaker 3: his emotions that he needs to physically break or hit
Speaker 3: or hurt something, you know, And I don't mean a person,
Speaker 3: I mean a thing. But often with domestic violence situations,
Speaker 3: it doesn't start out with someone hitting a person. It
Speaker 3: starts out with the other intimidation around it. It starts
Speaker 3: out with hitting a wall. In my experience of domestic
Speaker 3: violence growing up as a kid, it didn't start with
Speaker 3: my stepdad hitting my mum. It started with my stepdad
Speaker 3: ripping phones out of walls and punching walls and throwing
Speaker 3: things and being deeply frightening to be around. And then
Speaker 3: it escalated. And I think what the public discourse is
Speaker 3: that we get to have now is telling young girls
Speaker 3: that never never accept your boyfriend or your partner saying
Speaker 3: I was so angry that I punched a wall because
Speaker 3: I couldn't handle it. I think as women, we have
Speaker 3: been conditioned to think that it's not that bad, but
Speaker 3: it really fucking is. And that's probably The one silver
Speaker 3: lining of this conversation that I think not ours, but
Speaker 3: like in general, what's come out of this is that
Speaker 3: the benchmark for what women will accept is shifting dramatically,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of people who are able to
Speaker 3: define what isn't isn't the absolute red flags of what
Speaker 3: could constitute domestic violence. All right, guys, it is time
Speaker 3: for I accidentally unfiltered. And this one gave me a
Speaker 3: good giggle. Today at the nail salon, I took my son,
Speaker 3: who is five years old. I gave him my phone
Speaker 3: to entertain him whilst I was getting my nails done.
Speaker 1: Well, a few nights.
Speaker 3: Ago, my partner and I had had a good old
Speaker 3: night together a little bit rough and I don't know
Speaker 3: whether it was from my g string or maybe he
Speaker 3: scratched me, but I had a slight pain in between
Speaker 3: my vulvera and my and I obviously couldn't see it,
Speaker 3: so I took a couple of photos to get a
Speaker 3: better look, and I hadn't deleted them until now.
Speaker 1: After my son.
Speaker 3: Was like, hey, Mom, why is there a photo of
Speaker 3: a bum hoole on your phone? Is that dad's I
Speaker 3: was so mortified, and the nail technicians were trying not
Speaker 3: to giggle, but I don't think that they could help themselves.
Speaker 3: If I didn't have a vouchers to spend there, I
Speaker 3: would never go back, but I think I might regift
Speaker 3: it and never go back anyway.
Speaker 2: I think the most embarrassing part of that is not
Speaker 2: that there's a butthole on your phone, is that your
Speaker 2: son confused your butthole for your husband.
Speaker 3: To be fair, he's a kid. He's never seen an
Speaker 3: mum's butthole or a dad's buttthole.
Speaker 2: Big hairy man's. I have no idea what a buttthole
Speaker 2: looks like he's got. He's only ever seen his own
Speaker 2: buttole Like when I accidentally showed the nail technician my nude, remember,
Speaker 2: oh that's right, yeah, rest in peace, it was a
Speaker 2: different kind of nude.
Speaker 3: Guys, if you have an accidently unfiltered story for us,
Speaker 3: your most embarrassing story, slide on into our dms because
Speaker 3: we need them. Also your confessionals as well. Any of
Speaker 3: your sick dark confessionals send them to Life on Cut
Speaker 3: podcasts too.
Speaker 1: And it is time for sucking. Sweet what is your
Speaker 1: suck of the week.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be the most annoying boring person in
Speaker 2: the world. My suck is just my body from dancing,
Speaker 2: like I really, I've pulled a lot of muscles. I
Speaker 2: have a bulging disc in my back.
Speaker 1: I've got a bulging disc.
Speaker 2: Did I not tell you?
Speaker 1: No, I've been to the doctors.
Speaker 2: I have a broken back. I have a fracture in
Speaker 2: my spine and two bulging discs. That's why I mean
Speaker 2: so much pain. Did I not tell you that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a wedge fracture in my spine and
Speaker 2: two bulging discs. From what you know what, I've constantly
Speaker 2: got hot water bottles on me. Yeah, So I'm very
Speaker 2: lucky that the fracture is quite small, and the bulging
Speaker 2: discs are also quite small, because if anyone knows, like,
Speaker 2: if you've got that stuff, that's pretty extreme, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to do what I'm doing. So they're quite small,
Speaker 2: but there are enough that I'm in constant discomfort. So
Speaker 2: that's my suck of the week. And I'm just in
Speaker 2: a lot of pain. And also I am like dying.
Speaker 2: I'm frothing to get my migraine botox because I haven't
Speaker 2: been to have it while I'm dancing because I can't
Speaker 2: hold my necker well when I get it, I can't
Speaker 2: hold my whole neck up, So dancing would have been
Speaker 2: a disaster.
Speaker 3: The drama that goes into Dancing with the Stars is
Speaker 3: at the next fucking level.
Speaker 2: But I do want to say I have loved every second.
Speaker 2: Like I know I'm complaining a lot right now, but
Speaker 2: that's because where we're getting towards the end of the
Speaker 2: training and it's my body's broken. But I've loved every second,
Speaker 2: Like it has just been so much fun and I've
Speaker 2: learned so much stuff. And my dance partner and I
Speaker 2: Craig are like constantly in hysterics.
Speaker 3: Considering how much you've complained about it, I feel as
Speaker 3: though that that's not entirely true.
Speaker 2: No, I do. I love it, And that's why I
Speaker 2: wanted to say that, because it's like often we always
Speaker 2: talk about that, right often you just highlight the hard
Speaker 2: stuff with the bad stuff, And I'm highlighting that because
Speaker 2: all I think about is my soul muscles. But I've
Speaker 2: never I just haven't laughed so much in a really,
Speaker 2: really long time, and it's been really amazing to like
Speaker 2: learn these new skills and I'm really excited for you
Speaker 2: guys to see it because I think from when I started,
Speaker 2: from like my first day of practice, where I was
Speaker 2: like what have I done? I feel like I have
Speaker 2: come forward in leaps and bounds or purowets and chut
Speaker 2: chas you might say. So, yeah, I can't wait for you.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you guys to see it and
Speaker 2: hopefully vote for me.
Speaker 1: You are you are actually exceptionally good. It is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: My suck for the week is that on Friday Day,
Speaker 3: I had to come home from work because I was
Speaker 3: so freaking unwell, and I went to bed at lunchtime
Speaker 3: and I didn't get out of bed for twenty hours.
Speaker 1: I just spent twenty hours in bed masturbating all day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, made me feel so much better, thank you. No,
Speaker 3: I just was like an absolute puddle in bed. I
Speaker 3: had no energy, which meant that I missed out on
Speaker 3: like a friend lunch that we were supposed to do
Speaker 3: on Saturday.
Speaker 1: And it took me a good forty eight hours to
Speaker 1: get over it. So that was it's time. That was
Speaker 1: it sucked. It was like absolutely dire times.
Speaker 3: And my sweet for the week is that we are
Speaker 3: currently opening a new Tony May store and we are
Speaker 3: deep in renovation. But yesterday I went in to check
Speaker 3: where everything's at, and we're only a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Off from it being all finished.
Speaker 2: Have you invited us to the opening?
Speaker 3: We haven't because we didn't expect it to all be
Speaker 3: finished as quickly as what it has been. We haven't
Speaker 3: planned the opening yet, but it is coming very soon
Speaker 3: and we'll have it at a second Tony Made shop.
Speaker 2: I will wear all of my Tony May.
Speaker 1: You will come drag and your knuckles on the ground.
Speaker 1: We haven't said this.
Speaker 2: On the podcast.
Speaker 4: Laura lent me some jewelry for it. I noticed she
Speaker 4: didn't give it, but like Thai wedding that I lent
Speaker 4: you a couple of weeks ago, and I.
Speaker 1: Am, you know I've stolen it.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I was gonna say, I'll bring them back,
Speaker 4: and I brought back some to you, but I didn't
Speaker 4: bring back all.
Speaker 2: And look they're wearing very well.
Speaker 4: I will wear these to the opening party.
Speaker 1: Hashtag Tony Mags wipe up.
Speaker 2: So I'll come to the opening party to get more.
Speaker 2: You're going to tell everyone where it is.
Speaker 1: I haven't told everyone yet. Where it is.
Speaker 3: We will drop it this week if you've been if
Speaker 3: you're hanging on to the Tony May updates, you'll find
Speaker 3: out and like tomorrow.
Speaker 4: So I just add one last thing. If you are
Speaker 4: a new customer, we do have a code, or do we?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I set this up with your sister.
Speaker 4: Because people in our Facebook group, the Life on Cut
Speaker 4: discussion group, kept on asking like, is there a code
Speaker 4: you can get twenty percent off with the code life
Speaker 4: on cart twenty you're a new customer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, first time customers, so you can't just get all
Speaker 3: of your jewels for twenty percent off the rest of forever.
Speaker 3: We do have a lot of life as who are like,
Speaker 3: I'm a lifer, can I have a discount code? And
Speaker 3: then I'll look in and I'll be like, you're already
Speaker 3: a customer of Tony May for like five years?
Speaker 2: I can't know. So they're invested.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I give them out. It's fine.
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Speaker 3: Tatum strip art coming to her hands.
Speaker 2: I have zero feelings. I'm numb to the cause.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, absolutely, and you can get her physical actions
Speaker 3: which would give you more indication.
Speaker 2: If you watch the YouTube, then don't watch it.
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