WEBVTT - Britt's Hens, A Winning Cat & Has MAFS Gone Too Far? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:12.760 This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:14.360 welcome back to another episode of Life. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.160 I'm out, I'm Laura, I'm Brittany. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:18.759 What just happened. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.520 I'm laughing at what I just said. I just literally 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.400 before we recorded it was supposed to be off Mike, 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:24.040 but I'll just say it. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:24.360 Fuck it. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:28.440 I was like, I'm weirdly irrationally jealous at my fiance's sister. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.000 Yeah, BRIT's soon to be sister in law. Britt has 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.360 like is it retroactive jealous? No, come about strain, It's. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:34.959 Just like jealousy. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:35.839 You're just jealous. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.640 I'm just jealous. Yeah, but like obviously irrational. They're related 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:39.440 and nothing's going on. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.120 You did say Ben is currently on a cute date 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.280 with his sister, and I was like, that's not actually 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:44.879 how it is. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.680 No, because Ben never posts anything on his Instagram. And 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.640 I woke up this morning and there was a photo 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.159 on his on his story and I was like, oh, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:53.800 what's his posted? At the most it's like a pair 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.440 of goalkeeping globs, like that's what you posts? And I 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.520 was like, what do you post it? I went on 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.880 there and there's like this beautiful photo this sister Becky 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.400 and they're on at this cute little table in Italy, 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.319 like she's visiting and she's got an apero spirits and 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.160 she's all dressed in beautiful fashion and they're having like 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.880 little canolis and treats and they're like that should be me, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.600 and I was like, yes, I was like I should 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.000 be there having connoli. And then he sends me another pastor. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.800 He's like, just off to this cute restaurant for an 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.360 ugli at olio and then we're going to sorry, what 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:27.880 it's a pasta, and then again and it's Mitch Cheery's 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.800 favorite pasta. Then they're going to it. He's like, tomorrow 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.560 we're going to port Afino and I was like, okay, 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.800 stop it. I was like, I'm weirdly jealous that you 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.479 and your sister are doing everything that. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:36.440 I wish I was doing. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.960 I'm sorry that you're just here with us, and I'm 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:43.080 here with you a lot dancing unfortunately in the morning. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:44.559 Do you know what is funny? Though? 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.720 So last night, So Ben doesn't get many weekends off, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.400 so he's been trying to plan his Bucks party with 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.600 his friends for quite a while because we've planned mine, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.120 like we know when my Hen's party is it's well 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.800 planned in advance. I've looked after everything and then I've 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.680 hand did it over so it's organized for everyone. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.280 The planning of your HENS party has been going on 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:05.160 since January. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.960 It is a well oiled machine of planning. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.520 My Hens is more planned than my wedding. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:12.320 I would agree, yeah, no it is. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.880 My wedding's not planned yet. Great wedding planner, but Ben 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.320 and I have been stalling on some things. The wedding 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.040 plan is not to play it. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:20.880 I'm the problem. 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.400 Poor Amelia, my wedding planner. She's messaged me last three 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.320 days in a row. She's like, hey, just chasing again. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.200 We really need to lock some stuff. And I was like, oh, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:28.720 just let me get through my dancing. I was like 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.160 next week, I'm yours. So anyway, well oiled machine. So 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.960 last night I was talking to my sister Sherry and 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.000 Jay on FaceTime and they said to me, Hey, look, 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.520 can you like try and sus Ben out and get 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.920 him to lockdown a weekend for the bucks so that 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.560 everyone else can plan it. He's like, cause we're there's 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.160 a lot of moving parts, a lot of people have 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.359 got to travel from different countries. Jay has to fly 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.200 in from Scotland and flights are going up and up. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:55.799 So she's like, can you just tell him to lock 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.720 something in because Ben is really disorganized. He's not a 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.440 good planner. So I messaged Ben. I said, Babe, pull 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.280 your finger out, pick a weekend, tell the boys so 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.200 that they can plan it. And I was like, this 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.679 isn't something that people can just do in three days time, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.520 Like people need to know they have jobs that they 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.120 need to take off. I was like, just pull your 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.000 finger out, and he's like, oh, okay, I'll speak to 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.840 my best man, you know, over the next couple of 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.160 days left it. Then I woke up this morning. This 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:23.920 is like eleven pm last night. I woke up this 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.720 morning in a cool band and he goes, ah, well, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.600 you little plan didn't work, Brittany what And I was 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:35.480 like what And he's like I know? And I was 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.200 like what do you know? He's like, did you think 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.840 you could keep it from me this weekend? And I 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.279 was like, babe, I actually. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.120 Have no idea what you're talking like, I'm not coming. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.200 I was like, I genuinely have no idea what you're 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.640 talking about. I was like, I'm really confused, and he's like, no, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.920 you tried to play it on me last night. I 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.000 figured it out and I was like, ben stop. I 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.360 was like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.960 And he's like, my buck's being this weekend? 0:03:58.840 --> 0:03:59.640 Is it this weekend? 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.600 And I was like, no, what's not. I was like, baby, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.000 your bucks is not this weekend. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.680 I also am not organizing your bucks. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.840 So like, if you think that I'm here in Australia 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.880 organizing your bucks for you, you have a really like 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.880 misled perception around what's happening with this wedding. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:15.480 He goes, I know you're trying to throw me off 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.720 the scent. He was really adamant. I was like a baby, 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.960 like all my life. I was like, your bucks is 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.880 not this weekend. I was like I like, I don't 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.360 want you to think that this is something's happening that's not. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.800 And he's like, yeah, well, you messaging me last night 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.960 telling me to pull my finger out and pick a 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.280 weekend to plan it when it's this weekend. And this 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.080 went on and on and on, and I couldn't get 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.120 him to believe me that I have no idea what 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.440 he's talking about. So it turns out his Bucks is 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:40.120 this weekend? 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:40.839 Are you okay? 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:41.120 Right? 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.400 It was just it wasn't it meant to be a surprise. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.320 No, So what happened was I messaged him last night 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.200 and said pull your finger out. So he messaged his 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.640 best man and said, hey, like, let's get this going. So, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:58.240 in true boy fashion, they literally planned it that night 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.560 for in two days time, they just called all their 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.440 group chat messaged, everyone, booked a flight, everyone's going to Italy, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.520 and in two days time they're having a bus party. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.280 I don't understand. None of these people have children or 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.599 wives or like jobs. Yeah, pretty much like or anything 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:14.520 that they need to be home for. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.039 Not only one person has a kid and everyone else 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.719 has like a Monday to Friday job. And Europe's different, 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.560 I guess because everywhere is like a flight, it's like 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.800 an hour. Do you have any feelings of like, I 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.320 have feelings of jealousy that I've planned mine for four 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.160 months and you're doing it in two days? Don't know, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:30.560 but you know that yours will be better like his 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.279 will just be they'll just go to a pubble something. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.599 But like, do you feel weird that he's having his 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.320 bucks and you're like not there for any of it. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:37.920 I don't mean at the Bucks, but I just mean 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.200 like that. It's like there's a celebration that he just 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.200 goes home to his own home and you're like goodbye. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.320 I would have wanted to put like a GPS system 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.679 in his shoe him around like an air tracker following 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.080 him around. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:48.560 Where's he at? 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.039 Now? Watch trip clubs out like I can see you 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.040 through the window. Yeah, I definitely feel jealous that I'm 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.520 not doing that. No, it is. It is weird. It's weird, yeah, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:55.680 but we get used to it. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.520 Have we got strippers at your hens? 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.479 So? I don't know, Sherry asked me the other day. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.040 It was so long story short. I made a joke 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.640 on the podcast ages ago. Remember we were talking about. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.560 Yeah magic my guy, Yeah, looks like Channing Tatum. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.760 So I made the joke. The only I don't want 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.560 stripper is the only person I'd ever have is that 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.839 guy that looks like Channing Tatum. Anyway, Fake Channing Tatum 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.200 heard it on the podcast and messaged me. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.360 He DM me and he was like, hey, come wait 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:24.800 for your hands. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:30.039 He travels fast. You want me? And I was like, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.919 oh wow, that really did get around. He's like, look 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.960 if you want me, I'm yours, name the place. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:36.520 And I'll be there. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.440 Is it weird to organize your own stripper, though? 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:39.960 Thank you? 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.880 When you specifically said that you would only have someone 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.279 that looks like Channing Tatum, like give you a lap dance, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:46.240 and then here he is. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.520 It kind of feels it feels too close to like 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.920 this is like a hall pass. Like if I was 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:52.960 Ben I'd be annoyed by that. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.360 Like if Matt said, oh, I only want this one 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.480 stripper and she's really hot, and then she DMed him 0:06:58.520 --> 0:06:59.159 and then he. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.480 Organized him self. Part of me would be like, that 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.320 feels close to cheating. She feels suspiciously close to doing 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.720 the wrong thing. So I passed that information on to 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.240 those that needed aka you guys, and Sherry forgot about it. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.520 And then Sherry called me a couple of days ago 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.760 and she's like, hey, we need to lock this down. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.000 The stripper Chantato changing Tatum, imagine Mike you want him. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.840 I was like, I can't make that decision. I was like, no, 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.680 if you can, I was like, if you're gonna put 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.040 me on, I said, I don't want him for me. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:28.680 I said, I don't want him for me. I want 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.400 him for everyone else or for the entertainment, for the laughs. 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.480 I was like, I don't want Channing Tatum to come 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:34.200 and strip on me. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:34.960 Oh please? 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.360 Nice backtrack, Brittany, Channing Tatum two point zero is coming 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.960 to strip. You're getting a lap dance. He's just getting 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.080 a lap dance. I want to be entertained from the side. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.640 I just want to I'm here for the dancing. I'm 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.880 a dancer now, so I want to just I appreciate. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.360 What were you about to say? 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:53.600 Key? 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:54.960 She said, things get more interesting. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.160 Things get more interesting because Sherry and I have been 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.280 talking with my ultimate hence the team that are organizing it, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.840 and no one has clarity on whether you actually. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:04.120 Want him or not. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.880 Like but Sherry came to me and she was like, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.520 I can't work out where the Brits like trying to 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.600 be like, oh, you know, I don't have been I don't. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.920 She's not nervous. No, you don't book your own stripper. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.240 There's like one rule for a hens you don't want 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.080 me to book it. I can't even say that. I 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.520 can't have that on record. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.720 I think the issue is is that we keep publicly 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.720 talking about the same specific stripper on this podcast, and 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.200 not only is it just between friends, but like nationally, internationally, 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.960 everybody now knows that there is a man who looks 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.200 like Chatting Tatum that Brittany wants a lap dance from, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:38.280 and that is getting weird. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.440 I don't want to lap dance from him. She wants 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.719 to do the charter. I want a samba, I want 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.920 a samba roll. No. The reason I said he would 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.880 be the only person I get is because he's not 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.480 a stripper. Like they don't get naked, but they entertain 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.800 and the way that they dance is not stripper dance. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.760 It's like actually really intense, like it's a show. And 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.920 that was why he I thought he was different because 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.600 it's not like the corny cringe where they like rip 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.560 their police costume off. They actually dance and they involve 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.600 the audience in different ways. I just thought if I 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.920 was going to do it, that'd be my limit. But 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.880 I don't want anyone to listen to this and be 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.520 like Brittany's been DM in striper. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.440 I have thank you for clarifying. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.760 I've only ever been to Hens where the stripper has 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.160 been like it's been a woeful experience, hilarious, but also 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:27.440 horrible at the same time, like there wasn't any And 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.440 I think it's different for men and women, Like I 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.200 think that maybe this is a little bit gendered, but 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.240 often female hens parties the stripper it's funny, like. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.120 It's not sexy. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.600 No one's sitting around being like, oh yeah, bring it, 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.280 give it to me. I don't think so anyway, but 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.760 like every single time I've witnessed one, it's always been 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.120 it's like, what is going on? 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.160 This is a lot I have a perspective here that 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.559 I have just realized. I was thinking about it as 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:51.920 you were saying that, and I was like, most people 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:53.520 are going to find this really weird. I've been to 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.200 two Bucks parties. I have a lot of mates who 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.120 are guys who are straight, and so I've actually I've 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.800 seen the other side as well. I've been at two 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.520 Bucks parties where they had strippers, and it's kind of 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.640 similar vibes, Like unless you go to a strip club, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.360 I think my experience is at least and I mean 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.040 two is pretty limited. But it's kind of just like 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.160 everyone's in a room. And this is why I find 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.400 it really interesting when so many people write in fasku 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.880 and cut to us being like, I can't believe they 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.640 had a stripper at the Bucks. I'm like, if it 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:28.040 was a group situation, it likely wasn't sexual or imagining 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:28.840 it to be. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.680 You know, and Ben wouldn't care. Like we're laughing about this. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.959 Ben wouldn't care if it was the Magic Mike guy. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.600 If I was at some seedy strip club and someone 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.400 was like hitting in the face with a dick, yeah, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.680 Ben would care. But I think that this is different 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.599 because he's literally a dance so that goes on a 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.040 national tour that women like pay to go and see. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.920 There's like thirty women coming to my hands. It's quite big. So, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.760 if anything, I just thought it would be entertainment more 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.360 than like like a bucket list ticking, Like it's not 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.079 like before I die, I want lap dance from training Tatum, Like, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.560 that's not what my bucket list to do before I die. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.640 I'm still I'm still sensing that, yes, we should probably 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.960 organize this, But anyway, I need you you get on 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.640 it after this record, Brittany. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.120 But seriously, what do you guys think? Do you want 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.959 him on record? Laura? Do you want him? Do you 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.000 want Magic Mind? I feel like it would be good 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.040 for the comedy factor, like I would enjoy the I 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:24.000 would enjoy the lolls dance and the comedy is he's 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.080 a comedy performer, right, I would enjoy it. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.000 For the last I think it would bring an energy. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.600 We didn't have a stripper at my hands. What we 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.080 had was a guy who got naked and we all 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.000 drew him at like nine am in the morning. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:35.480 It's weird. 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:36.959 It was weird. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.599 It was like we walked. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.760 Upstairs and that was just a naked person in the 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:41.720 middle of the laundry. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.920 Also, can I say so, we booked that house that 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.640 we stayed on on like a booking app, and everyone 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.120 put up photos of this like nude guy at nine 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.400 am and us drawing him, and the person who we 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.760 booked the house off got really angry because they were like, 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.120 you're having a raging party. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:58.840 I was like, guys, we are. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:11:59.840 Have English breakfast. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.480 I was like, it was nine am. No one was drinking. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.880 A few people had a mimosa, but everyone was stone cold, sober, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.680 just drawing a flacid penis. 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.160 It was a life drawing class. It was oddly sophisticated. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:18.080 I thought facisticated. It was so physisticated that we were 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.320 sitting there in the corner as a natural light. The 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.080 sunrise was beaming on our face on the flaccid penis 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.120 drinking like literally English breakfastigue. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.120 It was a wholesome hens. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.960 I feel like people have rages and mine after I 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.160 think after having two kids and having a HENS party, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.720 I was just happy to have a weekend to myself totally. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.520 Well, like I'm on record, I'm not going to ask 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:37.319 for the stripper. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.280 Well give disappointed if we don't have it. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.720 I can't answer that. You don't you know me well enough. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:48.439 I would never say if I wanted it. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.960 Funny for people watching on YouTube that audio listeners. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.720 If you're watching this on YouTube, you'll get a good 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.120 giggle out of that. So I have something to update 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.920 you guys on and it's very niche. It's very insular, 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.160 but bear with me. On Thursday night last week it 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.280 was the am CO Awards, So for people who work 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.200 in social content online you might know what it is. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.880 The am CO Awards is kind of like the Social 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.840 Media Awards or the Influencer Awards, content creator awards that 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.360 take into account like all content creators across Australia, similar 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.400 to how we have the Podcast Awards that we are 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.319 always banging on about like once a year it's a 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:25.240 very similar thing. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:26.800 But for people who are content. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.439 Creators, it's Industry award. It's a huge event. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.120 Yeah, and you know, it's an interesting one because I think, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.080 as we all know, influencers have a bit of a 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.280 dirty name still, and there is quite a scale when 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.400 it comes to the type of work that influencers or 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:40.320 content creators do. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.360 They're not all cut the same, and the reason for 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.160 that is because. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.360 They're like influencers are their own little micro business, right, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.680 So some people have better business acumen than other people, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.800 and that's just the reality of it. So Matt every 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.320 year he enters the am CO Awards and he won. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.120 I don't know whether it was Content Creator of the 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.560 Year or whether it was the best content for what 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.280 he does, which is like he's kind of in a 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.320 parenting category, right, Yeah, for likening dads and also like 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.240 the brand stuff that he makes, and Matt takes that 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.840 side of his job very seriously. The reason, brit you 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.719 were dropping smoothie straight down in. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.920 Front of yourself. You're a fucking hot mess. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.320 Today's thinking about history, Farns. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.720 I've had five hours sleep, Hash take dance keep going. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.840 I'm a dancer. So Matt takes content creation very seriously. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.760 And the reason for that is is because you guys 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.400 might not know this, but before Matt went on The Bachelor, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.360 he worked in marketing and he worked in like brand management, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:37.880 so he used to come up with like a lot 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.880 of the brand concepts that the agency he worked at 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:42.720 would end up rolling out into campaigns. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.120 So very good at what he does. He's so good, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.880 you know, and that's often why lay the ads that 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.080 he creates on social media are. They're like very funny 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:51.720 and they're kind of a cut above. I would say, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:56.440 without being too biased, i am fucking the talent, but 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.640 lit a bit by sambit, please do what he. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.720 Does, I'm fucking the talent. Also, the money he makes 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.160 goes into our bank account, so yeah, I'm. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.080 Click like, got it save. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.280 So he entered the AMC Awards under the parenting category, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.160 right like you could be like a mummy blogger or 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:12.520 you could be a parenting blogger. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.280 This year it was a bit interesting. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.680 So Thursday night rolls around, it is like the big 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:20.560 Awards ceremony, and. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.160 Matt casually says to me, he goes, oh, it's a 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:22.640 bit weird. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:27.760 This year, the pets category didn't get enough entries, so 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.600 they've merged the pets category with the parenting category, like 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.800 they've taken And when I say pets, I don't mean 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.120 like people who talk about their pets. 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.240 I mean the pet is the person you know. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.240 Where pet content creator yea, like when you when you. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.320 Dress your dog up or your dog has an Instagram. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.040 So am Co just merged people who are parents and 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.520 actual pets together as the one category. Why would that 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.360 be the category that you merge it with. They have 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:51.400 nothing to do with each other. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.560 I was like, why not merge it with like cooking. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.840 Or lifestyle lifestyle makeup? 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:57.920 I get makeup, I get them. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.680 Saw not tested on an animal like contour and chiaa. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.960 I get the thought that they're kind of like, oh, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.920 I guess you know, like if you have a pet, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.120 like you're a pet parent. But this isn't even pet 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.320 parent content. It's the actual pets. So it's like it's 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.160 like pet personality. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:13.960 Like the Hamsters Instagram. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.080 Yeah, so Matt and the pets and the parenting and 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:18.000 the pets. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.240 It's so stupid they all got amalgamated into this one 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.000 parenting in pet category. How many pets entered, I don't know. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.920 But there was I have no idea how many people 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.120 were entered, but there was five people who were shortlisted. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:34.560 There were four humans and one pet. Anyway, it comes down, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.600 it's like we're all sitting there the suspense. They're like, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:41.240 and the finalist, ah, and I am gonna I'm gonna 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.640 be honest, Like I was like quietly confident in Matt. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.000 I really was, you know. I started recording him from 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.800 the side because I was like, just in case, yeah, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.400 obviously he's not gonna he might not win it, but 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.800 I was like, in case he does good content that 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:55.160 he can then use later on, you. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:55.800 Want that moment. 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.560 So I'm filming him and they're calling out the short 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:03.840 list and they go and the winner is beloved. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:10.960 Cat Chef Princess Honeybell and everyone, so, what's her name 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.480 on me ow cat Chef Princess Honeybell, who has six 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.240 hundred thousand followers. She's a cat. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.080 She's a cat, a real cute cat. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.360 If you're gonna lose, She's not pretty privileged. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.080 She's a ginger cat that wears like really cute berets 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.920 and pink vest. But everyone around us because everyone was like, yes, Matt, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.400 you've got this, and then the fact that he lost 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.240 to a cat, it was like this real duplicious room. 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:36.600 Half the people were. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.359 Like yes, Haney Bell, and the other half were just 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.199 absolutely fucking hysterically laughing, and like, imagine the morale of 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.800 someone who loses to a cat doesn't even have a 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.520 posable thumbs a feeline. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:49.399 Matt lost? How does it even post? 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:50.320 Was the cat there? 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:51.640 What was it? Sixceptance speak? 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.600 Was the cat there? Do you know? Matt had a 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.879 Demi Moore moment? That's an exact Demi Moore moment. Demi 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.760 Moore had a moment at the Oscar is just like 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.560 this week where everyone thought she was a shoeing. Everyone 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.639 was filming her exactly like you were filming Matt, Like 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.880 the Oscar cameras were on Demi and because she's won 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.920 the whole award season for substance for that real life protest, 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.360 and she it looked like it was shoeing. And then 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.280 she didn't win. She won to someone that no one expected, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.720 and the camera was on her face, and it caught 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.840 her face and it caught her looking to everyone, and 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.199 then the camera quickly panned away but Matt had the 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:28.159 Demi Moore moment. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.800 But that's also such a setup because the cameraman know 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:31.960 who the winners are going to be. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.000 So that's unfair. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.480 That is, it's also unfair to lose to a cat. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.280 And the parents of category even have kittens. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.600 The cow the cat's never even had kids. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.439 Goddamn it, they had sex, so well maybe, I mean 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.440 that's not Princess honey Bell would never do such. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.840 No, she wouldn't have so okay. So the thing that's 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.080 even funnier than this is like obviously everyone had a chuckle. 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.240 And I don't say this against the cat Instagram page, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.159 like if you go on, no, because the content creator 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.119 behind it, the woman who actually creates these videos, like 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.040 you would have to have the patience of a saint 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.120 to create the type of content that she creates alongside 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:06.760 her cat. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.600 Or a really well trained cat or a. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.920 Really well trained cat. But the content is great. It's 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.600 just the irony of losing to a cat in the 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.600 parenting category. But the thing that kind of was really 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.120 the icing on the cake. So what happens is that 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.680 there's one hundred and seventy two winners of the night, 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.919 and of those, one hundred and seventy two winners. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.280 They choose the content creator of all of Australia. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.000 So I'm talking like, you've got Yeah, you've got your 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.760 Sky Wheatley's, You've got your Laura Henshaw's, you've got your 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:32.840 Steph Claire Smith's. 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:34.440 Like I'm thinking think of any like. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.680 You've got comedy, You've got everything. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:41.640 Your favorite content creator online, Like everybody is in categories 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:43.800 against each other, and it's like the finalest of the 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.399 number one best in the country. Stop and I would 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.680 just like to tell you who who Australia's number one 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:50.639 content creator is. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:52.560 Chef Honeybee Kitty Cat. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.920 It's beloved cat, Chef Princess honeybell a cat is. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.920 A better content creator than all the humans in Australia. Fair. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.600 This is pre the cat didn't come. She didn't even 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:03.000 accept her. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.160 Do you know what is the most devastating thing? 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.120 Are you still thinking about a bridge? Yeah? 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.199 I actually had a mind fuck, I'm blanked. Do you 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.240 know what the most devastating thing is? I feel like 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.639 if you want to lose to an animal, it'd be 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.240 easier to lose to a dog. Don't you think it's 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.359 the fact that it's a cat. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.120 I think for Matt it would have been easier because 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.280 he quite likes dogs and he's a little bit anti cats, 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.080 so I think it really hit a sore spot for him. 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.520 But I'm all for it. I love cats, and I 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:32.440 also I genuinely mean this. The content that she creates 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.520 is incredible. It's very very good, it's very clever. I 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.520 don't want anyone to think that I'm slagging it. I 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.359 just found it deeply funny that a cat was better 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:40.920 than every human. 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:45.399 No a, yeah, absolutely, to a new level. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.399 But do you think it's actually nicer to kind of like, 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.679 at least lose a cat. No, I mean like he 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.040 lost in his category, but then the cat also won 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:54.080 all of the categories. 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:57.760 No, because the cat would have won the whole thing anyway. Fine, 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.439 but at least Matt would have won his category and 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.760 the cat could have wanted to take cat cat to category. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:04.040 Yeah. 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:09.040 Perfect, But there, I don't know. I'm not about about inclusiveness, 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.439 but not when you're putting animals in parenting and then 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.359 the parent loses the category to the cat. That's harsh. 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.560 Congrat's honeybell chef, Princess cat. 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.919 I think it's okay. I don't think. I think that's fine. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.400 He's absolutely okay. He's recovered. 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:22.800 He is devo next week. 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.160 Bust is involved in all of your content, and that's 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:25.880 like I'm pivoting. 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.119 To be fair, I just posted a video of Busted today. 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.320 Start now to New Year, K you me. 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.439 Petstock Foundation, National Pet Adoption Month is coming up. Everyone. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.159 Something that everybody is talking about at the moment is 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.040 the absolute shit show that is Married at First Sight? 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:43.560 Real hot mess, isn't it well? 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.560 And I mean, we have a lot of feelings about 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.280 it because I feel conflicted. I have always been the 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.080 one that has said I really enjoy the show. I 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.480 have love watching it because I have loved the social 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:57.320 commentary that the show creates and the ability to dissect 0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.600 really toxic behaviors and then have conversations about them and 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:01.560 shine light on them. 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:04.080 So I've always said I've not been able to watch 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.800 it because I detest it, Like I can't get around 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.800 almost any of the themes or scenes on that show. 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.160 I've never been able to. I've tried because I want 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.080 to be able to have the conversations, and I enjoy 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.720 the conversations we have about the topics Laura, but watching 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:19.200 it has always been so hard for me. 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:20.520 Yeah, and I think the thing. 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.280 Is so like this year, as you guys know, I 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.040 was deep in the I'm a celebrity, get me out 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.440 of here chat, so like I've not been on top 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.119 of what was happening in this season and married at 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.280 first sight. But something that I have noticed throughout every 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:35.920 season thus far the reason why it is the only 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.560 free to air production that is currently still on normal 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.679 free to air TV that is able to garner the 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.040 type of viewership that it does, Like it is still 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.720 getting the most insane views. It is the only reality 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:51.480 TV show that exists where people come to work and 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.159 they're still talking about it. It's the water cooler chat 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.800 that once upon a time The Bachelor used to provide, 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.880 but every single other show has just fallen by the way. 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.840 It's because it continues to push so many boundaries. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:03.840 Yeah, and this is it. 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.159 The reason why every single year the ratings seem to 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.360 increase is because it's almost like the Jerry Springer effect 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.040 that you were talking about recently, kish this idea that 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:18.119 every season something more fucking crazy, more outrageous, things that 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.960 really sit and make you feel so deeply uncomfortable in 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.720 terms of your moral compass. We're pushing further and further 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:27.880 every single season, and I feel as though the conversations 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.959 that have come out of this season of merret at 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.560 First Site is really the first time that I've looked 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:36.199 at it and been like, Okay, what we're watching is 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.600 not congruent with the social commentary gain that we're receiving 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.560 out the back end of merrit at First Site. 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:42.600 Now, for some of you. 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.760 Who might not be on top of what has been 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.120 happening or haven't read the news in the last couple 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.399 of days, there's been one really significant incident. There's actually 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.040 been loads of smaller things, but one very significant incident 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.159 that has really taken over the public discourse around this. 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.359 That is that Paul Antoine, who's thirty one years old, 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:04.199 he punched a hole in the door of Karna, his 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.040 wife's apartment, So he was in a bedroom. He punched 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.439 a hole into the door, and it wasn't caught on camera, 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:16.080 but it was discussed heavily around his quote unquote remorse 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.080 and his reaction to why he did it. Now, to 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:20.520 set that up and to give you kind of the 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:24.639 context as to why Karna had spoken about how she 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.359 had had a sexual relationships with a rapper, and she 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.720 told people in the group Paul was so overcome by 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:37.359 his feeling of disrespect, his absolute. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.320 Ego, innes syndrome. 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:40.879 Whatever you want to call it, that he was so 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.639 enraged by this. He made it away to Karina that 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.239 he was, and that he handled his emotions around it 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.440 so poorly that it resulted in him being so filled 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.520 with anger that he couldn't and I don't want to 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.240 say he couldn't control it, because absolutely everyone can, but 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.600 he ended up punching a wall. The reason why that 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.439 this has become such a point of conversation, and it 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.480 has really, I think crossed such an incredible line is 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:09.399 because this idea that violence as the outcome for not 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.400 being able to control your emotions, being played out on 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.840 national free to air TV, seems to go so deeply 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:19.480 against all of the conversations and all of the progress 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.240 that we're making in terms of domestic violence, violence against women, 0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:27.360 intimidating behavior, and I think that people are really now 0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.360 calling for the show to show some sort of responsibility 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:34.320 to this safety and the welfare of the participants that 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.600 they have within the show. I would love to just 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.800 play this little part for you, because obviously the act 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.800 of punching Adoor is incredibly intimidating, especially when you take 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:47.399 into context the fact that Karina and Paul don't know 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.240 each other well, they've been dating for a short period 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.840 of time. The type of intimidation that that creates in 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.160 an environment where you're expected to sleep in the same 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:59.240 room as your partner is something that I think calls 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.440 for a lot of questions. But there was another side 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.719 of this, and it was his apology afterwards, where he 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.520 managed to re victimize himself and blame Karna for the 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.879 reasons that he behaved the way he behaved. 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.520 To have listen to this, I was really upset and 0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.720 I was so so angry at that that comment in 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:20.680 the cab. It just felt I felt so uncomfortable and disrespected, 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.119 Like I was just like, well, what the help? I 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:24.199 just felt like an idiot. 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.959 I couldn't really take your apology sincerely because I was like, 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.120 you're saying you're sorry, but then you're adding it butt 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.919 does that make sense? I just wanted some space to 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.280 get my head straight because I'm the kind of person 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.840 like when I when I get held emotional, I can't 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.200 have a constructive chat. And I feel like it's the 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.560 fact that you couldn't give me that space I needed. 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:44.600 You got to all upset at me, that the fact 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.480 that I wanted to leave the girl for a whoopie. 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.280 Would you were really you were really angry. 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.400 At me, and you were like, well, if if that's 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.919 what you want to just yeah, you go like, I'm 0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:54.960 your wife, and you just you kind of you just you. 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.040 You were like, then leave and you you just get 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.159 hell upset and. 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.000 Relaxed, so dramatic, and it's pissing me off. 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:08.119 Now I'm getting angry because you saw for nothing. So 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:10.280 straight off the back of that, you would think, oh cool, 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:11.840 this is the end of him. There is no way 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.040 he'll be allowed to continue on this show. But then 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.800 it cuts to the experts that say, hey, do you 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.800 know what it looks like he's apologetic. He can continue on. 0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.719 Karina also said she wanted him to stay on the show. 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.879 He said he wanted to continue on the show, and 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:25.880 they just allowed it. 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:27.200 Yeah, there was this. 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.080 I mean, the experts themselves reprimanded him on the couch 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.920 for his like a boring behavior, but instead of there 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.000 being real life consequences, which is if you display violence. 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.879 You should be removed from the show, but also not 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:42.719 just removed from the show. There's like an obligation of 0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.480 safety that the production has to Karna and also to 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:50.920 other contestants. Rather than putting volatile people who clearly do 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.080 not have the emotional eq to be able to control 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:59.840 themselves on a TV show, they prioritize production over safety 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:00.879 these instances. 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.159 Now this has gone further. 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.320 There's currently an inquiry from Safe Work New South Wales. 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.000 The department is looking into the incident, according to the 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:13.320 Daily Telegraph and also Channel nine and endemol Shine has 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.480 released a statement. Now I wanted to read this because 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.000 there's a couple of parts of this that I wanted 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.879 to really unpack based on the experience that we have 0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.479 had when we did reality TV quite a while ago. 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.680 So nine and endemol Shine Australia have treated this matter 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:27.840 extremely seriously. 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:29.760 Our first priority. 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.760 At all times has been the well being and safety 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.960 of the participants and after extensive consultation with Karina, she 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.360 wanted to remain in the experiment with Paul. We continue 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:42.640 to provide support for Karina and for Paul. Nine and 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:46.080 endemol Shine take their obligation in respect to the health 0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:49.320 and wellbeing of all participants of this program. Extremely seriously. 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:53.800 All participants have access to the show's psychologists and welfare 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:58.760 resources during filming, during broadcasts, and once the program has ended. Now, firstly, 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.800 I think it should be relevant whether Karina or Paul 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.040 want to stay in the experiment. For Koreina safety, she 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.000 should not be allowed to stay. For Paul's behavior, he 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.400 should not be allowed to stay. There should be consequences 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:13.479 for violence. The second part to this is, and I 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.640 don't have the answers to this, but I can only 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.920 give my understanding from when I was on The Bachelor 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.840 and what the rules and regulations were at the time. 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.920 So when we were on The Bachelor, we were also 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.200 provided with a psychologist to speak to. Her name was Raya, 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:31.000 and she was a lovely woman. I have no issues 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.880 with the psychologists that we spoke to. There were multiple 0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:35.560 times when I booked in to go and have a 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.360 conversation with her. What I was completely unaware about, and 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.040 what was not described to us as contestants, was that 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:47.560 every single conversation we had was then repeated back to producers. 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.000 So anything you spoke to your psychiatrist about could be 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.280 used as content against you. It is not a closed loop. 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.880 It is not a normal situation where you speak to 0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.760 a psychiatrist and there is privacy and tru and you 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.520 can get like a real resolution. I don't know whether EndemolShine, 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.640 whether the setup is the same, or whether over the 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.320 past seven years there's been advances in this, but I 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.360 would dare say that the producers on this show know 0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.880 so much about the intricacies of how these relationships work. 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.160 And also it is their job and it is their 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.840 obligation to make the best, the most cutting content that 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:22.760 they possibly can. 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.200 So my experience from The Bachelor and my psychologists I 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.920 also had Raya was slightly different. Laura and I spoke 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.160 to her about it, so I also booked into the 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.080 psychologists and I just straight up asked her, is this 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.240 a safe space or do you report back at what 0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.160 I say to producers? And she said, whilst it is 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.160 a safe place and we do not go back and 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.400 tell them everything that it has happened, if I think 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.560 something needs to be told, I will say it, And 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.520 that's the way she worded it. So she said to me, 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.360 I definitely don't leave here and go and tell them 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.000 what the session was. But if you say something that 0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.680 I think could be worrying or that they should need 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.280 to know, I will say, and I don't know if 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.480 she was just covering her bite. And I do believe 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.120 that they don't leave and just say, hey, here's a 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.600 written word for word of what the session was. But 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.560 the fact of the matter is that does mean it's 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.560 not a safe space. That does mean that everything that 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.520 you say can and will probably be used against you. 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.760 The point that I have an issue with there and 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.080 in what you're saying, Brit is that it leaves it 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:23.200 up to the discretion of the psychologist who is contracted 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:27.360 by EndemolShine to choose what information they tell the producers. 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.880 But the producers aren't mental health workers. They're not people 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.520 who have your psychological well being at their top priority. 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.000 The producer's top priority is to produce a show. So 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.920 it's an interesting dynamic to me when a psychologist says, oh, 0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:45.040 this is something that I'm concerned about, and that information 0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:46.520 is passed down to a producer. 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.000 I sit with conflict in myself around this. 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.040 Because we spoke to John Aiken from Married at First 0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.760 Sight earlier this year on the radio show, and when 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.120 we asked him about some of the really troubling aspects 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.280 like the rain king of people's esthetic, where you rank 0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.800 your partner. It's a you know, it's been a staple 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.720 of Merriat at First Sight for a really long time. 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.720 His response was what I have felt about the show 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.840 for a long time. He was like, Look, it is 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:15.800 a test on one emotional EQ and also it's a 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.520 really great talking piece for the public to be able 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.640 to see in real time, like water toxic behaviors. We 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.240 have these incredible conversations that come off the back of 0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:30.480 mass where we're able to really dissect a toxic relationship 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.040 in real time, something that we never get the opportunity 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.240 to do because we never get to see that insight 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:40.400 into behaviors like gas lighting, behaviors like manipulation. But now 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.280 I'm left at the point where I'm like, has it 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.760 gone too far? Is the public discourse not in any 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.640 way beneficial or is it outweighing the damage that it's 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.080 doing to these participants. And the reason why I say 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.440 that and I kind of still sit in this gray 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.920 area is because this has happened on national TV. It 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.560 is a boring and it is wrong. However, we are 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.960 talking about it, we raise more conversations and more light 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:08.200 around what violence looks like, what constitutes violence, Like somebody 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.000 might be able to rationalize, oh, well, he didn't hit her, 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.320 He only hit a door, and we're able to sit 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.920 here and say, well, no, hitting a door is incredibly 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.000 intimidating behavior. 0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.760 And I absolutely agree with everything he said. Where the 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.800 problem comes in, and this is some of the comments 0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.520 that the experts made. Mel Schilling said, this is not 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.160 normal behavior, sweetheart, This is not how you show love. 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.720 This is deeply troubling. Now, this was off the back 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.520 of Karna really downplaying the incident and saying it was 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.560 just an emotional response, and then John Aiken backed her 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:40.840 up and said this behavior is toxic, inappropriate, and unacceptable, 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.240 which is a lie because it is acceptable because you're 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.440 still continuing on the show. And then he goes on 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.200 and says, if there is any type of violent behavior, 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.240 you're out. But that's also not true because we've seen 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.160 this violent behavior and you're in. So it is acceptable 0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:00.440 on this show, and it is showing signs of violent behavior. Yes, 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.240 he didn't physically lay hands on her, but we know 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:07.120 that's not the issue. It's intimidation. I agree that math 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.520 starts incredible conversations with people, and it does continue important 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.960 conversations like this, but that is only well and good 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.480 if we follow through and it has consequences. And he 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.440 was removed from the show because then we've said, hey, 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.120 we're starting this conversation and we're showing you it's not okay. 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.480 All we've done is start the conversation, but we've still 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.960 accepted that it's okay to continue on with that behavior. 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.399 So these two for me, are not congruent, and that's 0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:29.440 where my issue. 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.719 Lies with the lack of punishment. I also think it's 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.760 really interesting. It is very different. I think male violence 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:38.240 against women is an incredibly different conversation, and it's something 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.040 that literally at the moment, everyone is working so hard 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.680 to speak as loudly about as possible, and we've all 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.359 seen a shift in the public discourse around that over 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:52.280 the last couple of years. But there has been violence 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.239 on married at First Sight before, and I think it 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.239 would be remiss of us to not talk about the 0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:01.000 violence between Olivia Fraser and Domenica from twenty twenty two, 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:05.080 something of which at the time very interestingly because Olivia 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:09.120 Fraser was the villain we were super dismissive of what happened. 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.400 So you guys might remember there was an altercation at 0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:16.160 a retreat between Dominica and Olivia, sitting at a table 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:17.920 that were sitting across from each other, with some other 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:22.279 people there as well. Dominica got very, very angry, and 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.320 she smashed a glass down on the table. 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.440 And then was extremely. 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.640 Intimidating in her body language, pointing at Olivia while Olivia 0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.440 was seated down. Now, I know that both those women 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.120 had spoken to each other poorly and had done different 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.879 things that were triggering prior to that, But the intimidating, 0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:43.720 violent behavior that was shown by Dominica at the start, 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:45.560 we completely brushed over that. 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:46.839 As a society. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:51.480 If anything, people actually heralded Dominica for being European and passionate. 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.120 I remember that was a discourse around it. 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:54.880 Which is a load of rubbish. It is intimidation. 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.520 You know, she didn't wave a glass at Olivia. I 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.120 know that there was like some mixed information there, but 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.640 imagine sitting at a table with a group of girls 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.400 and having someone smash a wine glass on a table 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.759 and stand over you and scream at you. 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:08.520 Olivia. 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.520 Fraser has come out and she said this is not 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.279 the first time that endemol Shine Australia and Channel nine 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.640 have excused violence despite what they preach. If there was 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.000 a zero tolerance policy, then after such displays of violence, 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.680 participants would rightfully be removed from the show immediately. When 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.520 something violent happened to me, it was trivialized to start with, 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.839 but essentially I was told to just get over it. 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.200 I wanted to call the police, and I was told 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.280 I would be risking the jobs of hundreds of people, 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.400 and I was gilded out of something that I wanted 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:36.920 to do to protect myself. 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:37.480 Which is horrible. 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.720 When I made it clear that I no longer felt 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:42.279 safe living next door to my aggressor, they made a 0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.600 promise that I would never see her unless it was 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.680 filming a dinner party or a commitment ceremony. Instead, they 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.280 sent the aggressor knocking on my door with a full 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.360 film crew and producers, knowing that they were breaking the 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.279 promise to me, and knowing yet again that I would 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.319 feel unsafe in the workplace. They wanted to exploit me 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.520 feeling safe as much as they possibly could. They wanted 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.120 to violate my sense of security I had living in 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.239 that environment, and they did a good job of that. 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.400 I'm sure so many of you will remember that Olivia 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.280 Fraser came out really as the villain of that season, 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.799 and you know, I think a lot of it comes 0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.320 down to production. I think that there were two sides 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.640 to every story in that situation. I'm not saying that 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.960 she was absolved of the villain edit and not entirely 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:27.920 undeserving of it. However, there was very obvious violence that 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.479 was displayed, and like we said, and like Olivia said, 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.200 this is not the first time that it's played out 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.960 on national TV. But I do think that the tolerance 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.400 for it is shifting now, and not the tolerance from 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.239 a production perspective, but the tolerance as a viewer. We 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.520 don't want to be seeing it emulated on TV, and 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.640 I think the public very much are taking a stance 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:46.279 against it now. 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.759 It's interesting you say that, Laura, because I actually saw 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.560 the public commentary about this situation before I saw the 0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.799 actual scenes of Married at First Sight, and when I 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.479 was reading it, I was like, Oh, something really bad 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.040 has happened here, something really, really, really violent, something incredibly 0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.719 unacceptable has happened, because there has been like outcry would 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.320 be underplaying it of people saying this show should be canceled, 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.719 this person should have been removed. I cannot believe that 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.440 this is happening. And when I saw it, and I 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.640 would like for everyone to listen to the rest of 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.000 my paragraph before you judge me for thinking this, because 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.160 my immediate reaction was, Oh, that's not as bad as 0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.840 I thought it was going to be. I realized that 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.279 it is absolutely an act of violence and that it 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.920 shouldn't be something that is accepted on television. It shouldn't 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.080 be it's something that's accepted anywhere in any of our relationships. 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.120 But I think that the standard for what we are 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.799 willing to accept when it comes to violence on our 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.640 screens and when it comes to perpetrators of violence on 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:48.520 our screens is so fucking low that I was like, hmm, 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.600 it's interesting to me that people are taking such a 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.560 stance on this. And I went yesterday and I had 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.320 a bit of a look at people who have been convicted, 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:02.319 not allegations, convicted of violent crimes within Australia who are 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.240 currently in media on our screens, people like Ben Cousins. 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.840 He was jailed three times for drug possession, making threats 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:13.800 breaking of violence, restraining order, and stalking of his ex partner. 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:14.719 He was on. 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.280 Reality TV last year and he got a breakfast radio 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.120 job three weeks ago in Perth. 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:20.760 That's absolutely insane. 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.600 Matt Lodge currently plays in the NRL. In twenty fifteen, 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.239 he went into a rampage in New York City. This 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.000 is a bit of a long one. He followed two 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.120 tourists into an apartment lobby and told them this is 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.560 the night you die. He then assaulted a resident of 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.120 an apartment block who attempted to intervene, and broke into 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.000 this apartment where a man's wife and children were hiding. 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:43.640 He smashed glasses and plates and attempted to punch his 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.600 way through the locked bathroom to where they were hiding. 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.799 He avoided a one year prison sentence with a plea deal. 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.319 Wayne Kerry. He was on SAS in twenty twenty two. 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.719 We know the SAS lava redumption from story. He commentated 0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.160 the AFL for ages in a really high, well respected position. 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.440 In two thousand and seven, he played guilty to two 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.200 counts of battery on a law enforcement officer after kicking 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.279 a female police officer in the face. And there are 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:12.920 also allegations of glassing, ex partners, violence within his relationships. 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:14.959 All that kind of thing has existed for a really 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:19.400 long time. Just last year, Bondi Rescue star Andrew Reid 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.040 was found guilty of domestic violence and common assault. So 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:25.600 that was just in December. So my point being is like, yes, 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.960 this is violence. It shouldn't be accepted, but we accept 0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.719 violent people on our screens so much in Australia that 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.759 I'm like, it's interesting to me that this is where 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.440 we seem to be drawing the line. Why are we 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.719 not drawing the line? Do you know what all of 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:41.560 these people you know? 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.880 Because usually it's not that we accept it. This definitely 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.239 comes down to the fact that men get away with 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.239 so much more than anybody else. It makes the news 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.440 cycle and then it's done. We don't sit on it 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.480 for long enough and people forget. There'll be so many 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.319 people listening to your list that you just read it 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.320 off that are like, hang on, that's right, because because 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.440 we comment on it once, we brush it under the carpet, 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.720 and we also say, oh, well, he is an NRL 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.040 player that's sort of in their culture. It's almost that 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.520 it's expected, so we say it's Okay. 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.160 Also, I just want to make it clear these are 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.360 the people that I could find that have been convicted. 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.960 If I was here to discuss the allegations of violence 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.360 of people who are currently on our TV screens, we 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.960 would probably be here until tomorrow. 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:25.440 Yeah, and Cash, I know exactly what you mean. I 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.800 think the difference is is that when you see someone 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:33.280 or hear's someone like Ben Cousins on radio talking about 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.040 some silly thing that he read in the news, you're 0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:40.480 not hearing him in real time manipulate someone about the 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.280 assault or about the thing that they've done. And I 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.320 think that that's why it was very jarring for a 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.600 lot of Australians watching this play out, which felt like 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.120 in real time on married at first sight, because it 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.799 was like an act of violence happened, and then we're 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.680 watching him weasele his way with the excuse, with the 0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.560 gas lighting around, going from apologizing to say but the 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.920 reason I did it is because of you. It was 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.760 so startling, I think to watch it all play out 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.000 so specifically that it made it impossible for people to 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.560 deny it, whereas we are able to deny it every 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.359 day for so many reasons that these men who are 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.200 and have been convicted of really fucking horrible things, in 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.400 most cases domestic violence, and they're still able to go 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.279 and have careers in jobs where they are essentially influential 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.280 people in our society and held up as being important 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:31.480 in people that we listen. 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.920 To and interesting, and we want to see them on 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.600 our screens. And the only reason that I wanted to 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.520 go into that is because I think that if we 0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.359 are going to have a standard of we are not 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.040 going to accept violence on our screens, he should have 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:45.560 been kicked out of the show, which is what I 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.799 think the general public think. People are saying the show 0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.440 should be canceled. I'm like, if you have a zero 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.160 tolerance to violence, I don't know if there would be 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:56.200 a single reality TV show that would exist. Yeah, like 0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.600 we need to uperstand it is my point. By no 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.680 means want to say that if X definitely y. I 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.920 don't want to say if someone punches a hole in 0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.319 a door, they are definitely going to go on to 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.799 become a domestic abuser. I mean, each individual's circumstance will 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:12.719 be different. And I do also want to believe that 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.799 people can reform and they can learn from their bad 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.200 behavior and they can change. And that applies to the 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:20.480 men that I was speaking about earlier, where you know, 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.400 the men who were currently on our screens who have 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.760 been convicted of violent assault, like some of it happened 0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:27.400 a long time ago, and whether they've gone through the 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.839 personal development that's fantastic. I really fucking hope that they have. 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.960 But you forfeit the privilege of being someone who is 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.600 heralded in entertainment if you are going to do that, 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.000 And I think that's for me where I draw the 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.680 line of like we are having fantastic conversations about the 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.200 nuances of domestic violence and the micro aggressions that can 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:49.680 lead to bigger aggressions. 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.359 I don't even think hitting a wall is a microaggression. Yeah, 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.000 I think punching a wall is an escalator. It's an 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.120 intimidating aggression. 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.920 I think that the outrage against maths he is justified, 0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:02.879 but I think we need to apply it to every 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.960 single show that has a violent perpetrator on it. 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.279 Yeah, I totally agree. I think as well. 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.839 The one positive thing that's come out of this, I've 0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:14.200 had some conversations with friends who have said that they 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:18.799 don't equate the violence of a man punching something as 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.880 the same as someone who shows traits of domestic violence. 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.200 And it was an interesting take to me because I 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.680 was like, why is it that you are able to 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.560 allow a man to be so enable to deal with 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.120 his emotions that he needs to physically break or hit 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.320 or hurt something, you know, And I don't mean a person, 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.920 I mean a thing. But often with domestic violence situations, 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.680 it doesn't start out with someone hitting a person. It 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.400 starts out with the other intimidation around it. It starts 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.640 out with hitting a wall. In my experience of domestic 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.839 violence growing up as a kid, it didn't start with 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.200 my stepdad hitting my mum. It started with my stepdad 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.960 ripping phones out of walls and punching walls and throwing 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.279 things and being deeply frightening to be around. And then 0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.759 it escalated. And I think what the public discourse is 0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.640 that we get to have now is telling young girls 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:09.680 that never never accept your boyfriend or your partner saying 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.080 I was so angry that I punched a wall because 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.440 I couldn't handle it. I think as women, we have 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.600 been conditioned to think that it's not that bad, but 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.280 it really fucking is. And that's probably The one silver 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.600 lining of this conversation that I think not ours, but 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.920 like in general, what's come out of this is that 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.480 the benchmark for what women will accept is shifting dramatically, 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.239 and there's a lot of people who are able to 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.759 define what isn't isn't the absolute red flags of what 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:37.600 could constitute domestic violence. All right, guys, it is time 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.400 for I accidentally unfiltered. And this one gave me a 0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.160 good giggle. Today at the nail salon, I took my son, 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.480 who is five years old. I gave him my phone 0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.600 to entertain him whilst I was getting my nails done. 0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:49.320 Well, a few nights. 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.400 Ago, my partner and I had had a good old 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.120 night together a little bit rough and I don't know 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.239 whether it was from my g string or maybe he 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.960 scratched me, but I had a slight pain in between 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.279 my vulvera and my and I obviously couldn't see it, 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.440 so I took a couple of photos to get a 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:08.640 better look, and I hadn't deleted them until now. 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:09.800 After my son. 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:11.800 Was like, hey, Mom, why is there a photo of 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.840 a bum hoole on your phone? Is that dad's I 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.440 was so mortified, and the nail technicians were trying not 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.839 to giggle, but I don't think that they could help themselves. 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.920 If I didn't have a vouchers to spend there, I 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.040 would never go back, but I think I might regift 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:25.320 it and never go back anyway. 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.680 I think the most embarrassing part of that is not 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.920 that there's a butthole on your phone, is that your 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:31.960 son confused your butthole for your husband. 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:33.920 To be fair, he's a kid. He's never seen an 0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.160 mum's butthole or a dad's buttthole. 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.040 Big hairy man's. I have no idea what a buttthole 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.319 looks like he's got. He's only ever seen his own 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.560 buttole Like when I accidentally showed the nail technician my nude, remember, 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.600 oh that's right, yeah, rest in peace, it was a 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.919 different kind of nude. 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.319 Guys, if you have an accidently unfiltered story for us, 0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.840 your most embarrassing story, slide on into our dms because 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.920 we need them. Also your confessionals as well. Any of 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.319 your sick dark confessionals send them to Life on Cut 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:03.080 podcasts too. 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:05.680 And it is time for sucking. Sweet what is your 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:06.400 suck of the week. 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.000 I'm just gonna be the most annoying boring person in 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.840 the world. My suck is just my body from dancing, 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:16.279 like I really, I've pulled a lot of muscles. I 0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:17.719 have a bulging disc in my back. 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.080 I've got a bulging disc. 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:20.759 Did I not tell you? 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:21.920 No, I've been to the doctors. 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.600 I have a broken back. I have a fracture in 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.440 my spine and two bulging discs. That's why I mean 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:27.799 so much pain. Did I not tell you that? 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:28.200 No? 0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.640 Yeah, I've got a wedge fracture in my spine and 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:36.360 two bulging discs. From what you know what, I've constantly 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:39.040 got hot water bottles on me. Yeah, So I'm very 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:42.240 lucky that the fracture is quite small, and the bulging 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.600 discs are also quite small, because if anyone knows, like, 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.320 if you've got that stuff, that's pretty extreme, I wouldn't 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:49.960 be able to do what I'm doing. So they're quite small, 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:52.520 but there are enough that I'm in constant discomfort. So 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.279 that's my suck of the week. And I'm just in 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.680 a lot of pain. And also I am like dying. 0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.839 I'm frothing to get my migraine botox because I haven't 0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:01.480 been to have it while I'm dancing because I can't 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.160 hold my necker well when I get it, I can't 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:04.960 hold my whole neck up, So dancing would have been 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:05.560 a disaster. 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:08.160 The drama that goes into Dancing with the Stars is 0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:09.520 at the next fucking level. 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.960 But I do want to say I have loved every second. 0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.880 Like I know I'm complaining a lot right now, but 0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.160 that's because where we're getting towards the end of the 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:20.200 training and it's my body's broken. But I've loved every second, 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.440 Like it has just been so much fun and I've 0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:24.400 learned so much stuff. And my dance partner and I 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.960 Craig are like constantly in hysterics. 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.279 Considering how much you've complained about it, I feel as 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.240 though that that's not entirely true. 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.239 No, I do. I love it, And that's why I 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.240 wanted to say that, because it's like often we always 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.399 talk about that, right often you just highlight the hard 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.680 stuff with the bad stuff, And I'm highlighting that because 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:44.120 all I think about is my soul muscles. But I've 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.320 never I just haven't laughed so much in a really, 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.880 really long time, and it's been really amazing to like 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.319 learn these new skills and I'm really excited for you 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:56.160 guys to see it because I think from when I started, 0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:58.719 from like my first day of practice, where I was 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.440 like what have I done? I feel like I have 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.560 come forward in leaps and bounds or purowets and chut 0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.160 chas you might say. So, yeah, I can't wait for you. 0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:08.640 I can't wait for you guys to see it and 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:09.560 hopefully vote for me. 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.200 You are you are actually exceptionally good. It is ridiculous. 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.959 My suck for the week is that on Friday Day, 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:17.320 I had to come home from work because I was 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.080 so freaking unwell, and I went to bed at lunchtime 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.920 and I didn't get out of bed for twenty hours. 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.680 I just spent twenty hours in bed masturbating all day. 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.160 Yeah, made me feel so much better, thank you. No, 0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:31.560 I just was like an absolute puddle in bed. I 0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.279 had no energy, which meant that I missed out on 0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.040 like a friend lunch that we were supposed to do 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:36.680 on Saturday. 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.640 And it took me a good forty eight hours to 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.480 get over it. So that was it's time. That was 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.280 it sucked. It was like absolutely dire times. 0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:46.399 And my sweet for the week is that we are 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.399 currently opening a new Tony May store and we are 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.120 deep in renovation. But yesterday I went in to check 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.080 where everything's at, and we're only a couple of days. 0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:56.520 Off from it being all finished. 0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.040 Have you invited us to the opening? 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.000 We haven't because we didn't expect it to all be 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.240 finished as quickly as what it has been. We haven't 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:07.560 planned the opening yet, but it is coming very soon 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:09.479 and we'll have it at a second Tony Made shop. 0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:11.000 I will wear all of my Tony May. 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.240 You will come drag and your knuckles on the ground. 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:13.920 We haven't said this. 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:14.440 On the podcast. 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.600 Laura lent me some jewelry for it. I noticed she 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.480 didn't give it, but like Thai wedding that I lent 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:19.959 you a couple of weeks ago, and I. 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.520 Am, you know I've stolen it. 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:22.759 I didn't notice that. 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:25.799 I'm like, I was gonna say, I'll bring them back, 0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.080 and I brought back some to you, but I didn't 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:29.719 bring back all. 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.880 And look they're wearing very well. 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:34.160 I will wear these to the opening party. 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:35.440 Hashtag Tony Mags wipe up. 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.520 So I'll come to the opening party to get more. 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:39.840 You're going to tell everyone where it is. 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.200 I haven't told everyone yet. Where it is. 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.759 We will drop it this week if you've been if 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.919 you're hanging on to the Tony May updates, you'll find 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:48.720 out and like tomorrow. 0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.400 So I just add one last thing. If you are 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.279 a new customer, we do have a code, or do we? 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:54.560 Yeah? 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:55.920 I set this up with your sister. 0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.000 Because people in our Facebook group, the Life on Cut 0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.880 discussion group, kept on asking like, is there a code 0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:03.759 you can get twenty percent off with the code life 0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:06.160 on cart twenty you're a new customer. 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.359 Yeah, first time customers, so you can't just get all 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:10.440 of your jewels for twenty percent off the rest of forever. 0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:11.880 We do have a lot of life as who are like, 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:13.360 I'm a lifer, can I have a discount code? And 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.080 then I'll look in and I'll be like, you're already 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.800 a customer of Tony May for like five years? 0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:20.440 I can't know. So they're invested. 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.040 Sometimes I give them out. It's fine. 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:25.400 If you enjoyed the episode, please go leave a review 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.959 on Apple Podcasts or subscribe wherever you listen to your pod. 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.200 You can watch it on YouTube if you really want 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:32.240 to find out b It's true feelings about the chatting 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.240 Tatum strip art coming to her hands. 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.080 I have zero feelings. I'm numb to the cause. 0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.640 Yeah yeah, absolutely, and you can get her physical actions 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.040 which would give you more indication. 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.279 If you watch the YouTube, then don't watch it. 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:45.840 And you know the dress. 0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:48.800 See Mum tad t does tea your friends and shadle 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.960 love because we love