Speaker 1: So you guys might have heard the news that Hollywood
Speaker 1: superstar Renee Zellweger is in town. Bridget Jones Number four
Speaker 1: has just been released on the weekend, and I was
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be able to go to the premiere.
Speaker 2: You were flashing yourself on the red carpet.
Speaker 1: That's right, flashmounds on the red car but in true
Speaker 1: Bridget Jones style. Like I felt like that was an
Speaker 1: ode to Bridget Jones.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of that. You embodied it, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really did. They didn't write that. They just wrote
Speaker 1: that I flash Mandy's malfunctioned irrelevant. So I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the movie itself. I know I mentioned yesterday
Speaker 1: if you were listening, that I just loved it. It
Speaker 1: was about grief and I had all these beautiful aspects
Speaker 1: to it. But there was a part of the movie
Speaker 1: that I particularly resonated with. Bridget Jones. In this movie
Speaker 1: is an older woman that gets into a very loving
Speaker 1: sexual relationship with quite a younger man, like I'm talking Handalus,
Speaker 1: pretty big age gap. It's about twenty years. Actually, it's
Speaker 1: also Leo Woodhall, So who could blame her? Anyone is
Speaker 1: going for Leo Woodhall. I don't care what age you are.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry this has just become the Leo Woodall
Speaker 2: fan show. Like everyone's like, why are you still talk
Speaker 2: talking about him? It's my fault, Well, Bridget and.
Speaker 1: The reason that's all you are. Bridget Jones's author Helen
Speaker 1: Fielding has come out and said that this was very intentional.
Speaker 1: She really wanted to smash the idea that women have
Speaker 1: this sexual cell by date. Hollywood has always made us
Speaker 1: believe that you get to an age and you're no
Speaker 1: longer desirable, You no longer want to have those relationships.
Speaker 1: It's always been okay for men, especially in Hollywood, to
Speaker 1: date women ten, twenty, thirty, forty years younger than them,
Speaker 1: and no one bats an eyelid.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Leo DiCaprio, for example. The age
Speaker 2: of his girlfriends have never changed. I'm pretty sure he
Speaker 2: was dating twenty year olds when we were all twenty.
Speaker 2: Is he like late forties now? I don't even know
Speaker 2: he's fifty.
Speaker 1: He's just fifty and he's still dating twenty year old's
Speaker 1: twenty five?
Speaker 2: Nothing. Yeah, but well, actually I have a few things
Speaker 2: against it, but like you know, well people.
Speaker 1: Have started to talk about that, but this whole narrative
Speaker 1: has been flipped on its head, and we've seen quite
Speaker 1: a few movies in the last year where they've had
Speaker 1: relationships between the old women and the younger men, like
Speaker 1: Anne Hathaway did a movie earlier this year as well,
Speaker 1: where she was in a relationship with a guy in
Speaker 1: his twenties. I think it's really cool personally because I've
Speaker 1: always dated younger, and I've always made jokes about the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm a cougar. Now I'm not dating twenty
Speaker 1: years younger. Mine are like between five seven eight years,
Speaker 1: but eight years has been my man.
Speaker 2: You're absolute Max, Ye, okay, what I would do.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm getting married now, but my ex was seven
Speaker 1: years younger than me, and I just remember, I remember
Speaker 1: the feelings surrounding that from other people, but also the
Speaker 1: feelings that I had myself. It didn't bother me, but
Speaker 1: I felt the judgment from other people because when we
Speaker 1: started dating, I was in my thirties and he was
Speaker 1: still twenty five, which is very young.
Speaker 2: It's interesting to me because I know that I have
Speaker 2: a bias from years of watching you know, just men
Speaker 2: who are older date younger women, and women always date
Speaker 2: older men. I personally have never dated anybody that's like
Speaker 2: significantly younger than me. Funnily enough, my husband is actually
Speaker 2: the youngest man I've ever dated, and he's only a
Speaker 2: year and a half younger than me. But I've always thought,
Speaker 2: and this is actually kind of sad, I've always thought,
Speaker 2: why would someone younger than me? Like, why would a
Speaker 2: younger man want to be with me when he could
Speaker 2: be with a twenty year old?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: I mean like like I put the expiration on myself,
Speaker 2: and I know that that is so backwards and it's
Speaker 2: almost the antithesis of this, but it shows the conditioning.
Speaker 2: Like I've never looked at a forty year old man
Speaker 2: and being like, God, what would a thirty year old
Speaker 2: see in you? I've always just thought that was completely
Speaker 2: statistically normal, Whereas, like for me, as someone who is
Speaker 2: surging towards my forties, if I was single, I would
Speaker 2: genuinely think, what would a twenty nine year old man
Speaker 2: see in me? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: And I know that that shouldn't be the case, and
Speaker 2: I love that there are movies that are platform being
Speaker 2: the alternate, but I do think that women face so
Speaker 2: much more judgment for dating younger men than what men do.
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, I know, I don't think it.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely just fact.
Speaker 1: Of course they do, which is why it's so important
Speaker 1: that these movies are flipping that narrative on his head.
Speaker 1: It sounds so cliche, but I truly believe that age
Speaker 1: is just a number. It depends on what the person is.
Speaker 1: What does that person bring into the relationship, what are
Speaker 1: they offering, how do they act, their emotional maturity, their
Speaker 1: life experience. And you know, the twenty five year old
Speaker 1: that I was dating was so worldly and so mature,
Speaker 1: like the position that he was in, what he did,
Speaker 1: what he brought our relationship was amazing. I didn't look
Speaker 1: at him like he was younger. I think we forget
Speaker 1: and we put the limitations on ourselves. Yes, society does.
Speaker 1: But what you said is true, Laura, Like we say
Speaker 1: it to ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we say it to ourselves though, because it's been
Speaker 2: said so much. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm happily married.
Speaker 2: I don't not running out there wanting to date a
Speaker 2: twenty year old BA. But I guess what I mean
Speaker 2: by this is when I say, like I have this
Speaker 2: judgment about myself or about you know, it's a fleeting
Speaker 2: thought when I do see these age disparity in relationships.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is, like, all that does is
Speaker 2: it reinforces that women must have an expiration date, that
Speaker 2: they're not as valuable as they get older as what
Speaker 2: men are. Because men retain value, they can still date down.
Speaker 2: But the older you get as a woman, then the
Speaker 2: expectation is that you don't. And that's something that needs
Speaker 2: to be looked at for sure.
Speaker 1: Except it's actually perfect because men's sexual peak is in
Speaker 1: their twenties and women's sexual peaks they're not peaking until
Speaker 1: mid to late thirties, even early forties some women. So
Speaker 1: that's really ideal for a younger man that's in his peak,
Speaker 1: that wants someone that's like thriving experience, knows what they want.
Speaker 1: Brittany's selling it.
Speaker 2: She's like, all the younger men slide into my note.
Speaker 2: You're happily engaged.
Speaker 1: Now, No, I'm fine, But imagine how how amazing it
Speaker 1: would be to be Rene Zelwiga when the author and
Speaker 1: the director brings this to you, right, and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to set you up with a man in
Speaker 1: his twenties.
Speaker 2: Take your peak.
Speaker 1: What actor do you want, And you get to like
Speaker 1: look around Hollywood and be like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I guess begin what times are changing?
Speaker 2: They really are? Are they?
Speaker 1: Women are in control