1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. 5 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: Hello. 6 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Now, today's guest is coming on the show for the 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: second time. Duncan Pabianen has already been on the show 8 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: because he is a total I want to say yoga guru, 9 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: but some people don't like the word guru, so he's 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: just like a yogi passionata. Is that even a word? 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: But Duncan is a wonderful yoga teacher. His super driven, 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: super passionate, and he's super fun and that's why I 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: think he has such popular yogi classes. Now we are 14 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: announcing something really, really cool in this episode. I'm gonna 15 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: not tell you what it is in the introduction. I 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: really hope you get excited about it because it is 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: my first ever time doing this. You'll have to listen 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: to find out what it is. And I also drill 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Duncan a little bit towards the second half, where I 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: ask him all these different yogic philosophy meanings because sometimes 21 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: We're in a yoga class and a teacher says a 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: Sanskrit word and you're like, ha, see what I really 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: like that, but I don't remember what it means. Like 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: sometimes someone will go, let's set a san culpa like 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: the intention for the class, and if you're not used 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: to hearing the word san culpa, you might be like 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: a Santa what. So in this episode, Duncan kind of 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: breaks down some Yogi philosophies for us. As always, he's amazing. 29 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy this chat and I hope you 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: like our surprise exciting. 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: You know, you have to do those like what's that 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: all those videos of like making weird noises like that, 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: looking as. 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: This is the perfect welcome I've hit record, Duncan. 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, No you haven't, Lorla. You need to 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: give me some. 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: Morning welcome back, Duncan, pavey Ironan. Do you know we 38 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: walk around the house saying your full name with a 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Canadian accent? 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, for. 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: So much fun to say. If I listened to because 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: I had to practice it so much for the last pod, 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: and if I listened to whole ye, you've got such 44 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful accent. So we will walk around the house 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: being Duncan pervyen. 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Oh, that's really good. You've really been working on it. 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: I can tell that flowed right out of your lips. 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: It feels so nice to say. Okay, So we've had 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: you on the pod before, of course, and we talked 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: all things yogs because I was lucky enough to do 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: a big teacher training with you as a student, which 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: you are about. We're recording this a little bit in advance, 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: but you're doing it all again in Byron Bay Hour. 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: We start tomorrow. We're doing a three hundred hour Advanced 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: FINASA teacher training. It's crazy, but I'm so excited. We 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: have a really amazing crew coming from all over Australia 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: to Byron. It's so beautiful here. I can't wait. 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I know you can't see Duncan 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: right now, but it looks so calm, cool like, and 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: tomorrow you will be like. It's hard work. I remember 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: it from last time. 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, as a yoga teacher, you're just in front of 63 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: the room talking a lot of the time. You do 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: group work stuff as well, and people can meditate and 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: have their own space. But yeah, it is a lot 66 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: of work. 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: We're holding heaps of space. And I think one thing 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: that yoga does that I definitely I think I always 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: knew it, but I really felt it in my teacher 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: training with you. It forces you to face your shit 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, so you're holding and you're facilitating 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: that space to be held. So you've got a big, 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: big couple weeks ahead, are you? And then a break 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: and then do it again? Do it? 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: The more we talk about it, the more nervous. 76 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Sorry, let's talk about something really exciting. So the reason 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: why this podcast is happening now and we're doing a 78 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: second interview with Duncan not just because you're absolutely amazing, 79 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: but because you and I are going to be doing 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: something really exciting together. 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Can we tell them already? Yeah? No, 82 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: I'm like so excited. Like I was actually thinking about 83 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: it in Bend this morning. I was like, I cannot 84 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: wait for this. 85 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm so nervous, though. Do you know I've never done 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: one before. I've only I've only been a student at 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: a Do you want to say what we're doing? 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: No, you should do the honor. Since it's your first one, 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: you should you should say it. 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Well, we're doing a retreat together here in Byron Bay. 91 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: It's like at the most beautiful retreat center, right. 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: So the location is called Soma, so it's this insanely 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: stunning and the yoga space Duncan. It's like this dome 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: made on sacred geometry. 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, all of you listening, just wait till you 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: come to this place and see it firsthand. You feel 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: like you're on another universe. The grounds are so beautiful, 98 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: rolling hills, the Byron hinterlands, beautiful nature, lush nature. You 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: just even just being there it feels like it changes 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: your physiology absolutely. 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: And also, do you remember that like five hundred year 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: old fig We checked there and there's like swings coming and. 103 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: We start in the swing together and we're like, oh 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: my gosh, we're going to run a retreat here together. 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: So we finally can tell people because this has been 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: in the pipeline now since I remember when I first 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: moved up here, yeah, and you moved up We were 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: like a few days apart yep. And then we went 109 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: for a brecky date at Folk Yes, and you were like, hey. 110 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Let's do that. Yeah, let's run a retreat together. So 111 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: it's literally been like four months in the making we've 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: been keeping it hush hush. 113 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: We have. We wanted to cross our teas and dot 114 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: our wives because we are both virgos. Yes, yes, so 115 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: it has to be perfect. Let's talk a little bit 116 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: about the off because yeah, I'm really excited about it. 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Can you talk yogs first? 118 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Okay? So yeah, the retreat is going to be a 119 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: yoga retreat, and we're going to do yoga practices in 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: the morning, we're gonna wake up, We're going to do 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: some amazing flows, some nice meditations, We're gonna do some 122 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: philosophy talks. I really want the retreat to be this 123 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: special space where people can connect with themselves and their 124 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: breath and their body and also have fun. So we 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: will have these like really deep yoga practices, both like 126 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: physically but also spiritually, and at the same time, they 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: will be fun and they'll be accessible to all levels. 128 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: So if you're coming and you want something a little 129 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: bit more intermediate or advance, you'll get that. If you're 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: coming and you're newer to yoga, then don't worry. I've 131 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: got your back. I love teaching people at all levels. 132 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: So it's going to be a really special, special journey altogether, and. 133 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I can vouch for that as well, because I came 134 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: into your teacher training and I was like, like, fun, 135 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: do a handstand, and every time that we did hands 136 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: and you'd come up and support me, flicking up against 137 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: the world, do you remember. Yeah. 138 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then the days where you're like, duncan, I 139 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: don't want to do it, I was like, that's totally fine, 140 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: law Love, we don't have to do it today, you know. 141 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: So you know, I want everyone to feel safe in 142 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: the yoga space, and that means sometimes you'll do the 143 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: things and sometimes you won't, and I am always very 144 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: respectful of that. 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Ah. I cannot want. I cannot wait to experience your 146 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: yogs again. And for anyone that hasn't practiced dunkin class before, 147 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: it is that combination of like depth and you get 148 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: to challenge yourself mentally, physically, emotionally, but you will laugh 149 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: along the way, and there is this balance of lightness 150 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: and I guess like a sturdiness and strength, but then 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: there's this kind of like playfulness. So yeah, it's an 152 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: absolute honor to be doing this with you. 153 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so excited. And the whole retreat center itself, 154 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: the rooms, oh my gosh, the rooms, like all of 155 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: them have beautiful views those windows. We're not even. 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Staying there because we want. 157 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: Well we I might stay there, I might take one 158 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: of the. 159 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: Well no, because it's quite an exclusive retreat space, so 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: there's not loads and loads of rooms, and so we 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: were like, oh wow, we're going to have to give 162 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: these rooms away. But they're so beautiful and sought. Everything's 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: thought out. There's crystals inside, like like just incredible, like 164 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: even a light che forest. Do you remember got that? 165 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: Well you told me Nicole Kidman stayed there, and I 166 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: was like, anywhere that Nicole Kidman's stays, I want to stay, right. 167 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: So we had a full blown tour and Nicole Kidman 168 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: filmed Nine Perfect Strangers, which is her new I think 169 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: it's like a psychological thriller series, and they remember they 170 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: took us. We got a tour and there's like extra 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: rooms that have been built on site now for massages 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: and whatnot. That was the set for when Nicole's like 173 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: character lived. 174 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, this is so cool. 175 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: We should turn a little behind the scenes like movie tour. 176 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: We should we should watch the series on the retreat. 177 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: Although it's psychological thriller, so maybe it might be intense. 178 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: It's actually about a retreat. Like it's oh yeah. 179 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, maybe we won't watch it, but 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: give us like nightmares. 181 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: So good though, So and that's the other thing. We 182 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: do want to make sure that we've got things on 183 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: off are like we're locking the final details in now. 184 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: But like if people do want to massage or want 185 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: we're going to make sure that there's great ways to 186 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: look after. Oh my god, I didn't even mention that pool. 187 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: That crazy, the fire. 188 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: Pier, the fire pet it's just like and you can 189 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: walk around the property. There's little trails. Yeah, it's just 190 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: the stunning space and it's like you'll just literally wake 191 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: up all out of bad, go to yoga, meditate, come 192 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: and eat. Oh, we'll talk about the food in a second. 193 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the food in a second, because that's 194 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: a whole nother thing. You'll eat nutritious food. Then you'll 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: have a bit of time to yourself. Then well, Lola 196 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: and I will have like a philosophy talk together. Lola 197 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: will talk about wellness and health. So you can go 198 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: back to your life with some like ideas of like 199 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: what to eat and how to like keep yourself healthy, 200 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: and then we'll go have some free time where you 201 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: can just enjoy the nature, lay by the pool, be 202 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: in the sun, do what you want, and then we 203 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: come back together for another yoga session, have a beautiful 204 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: dinner altogether. 205 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Like honestly, the dream, the dream, it's pretty much like 206 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: you said, connect to yourself, yeah, connect to mother nature. Yeah, 207 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: it's the kind of a space where you would be 208 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: so happy just to stay there and just be like, 209 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: I've got everything that I need. 210 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I won't be leaving. I told you I'm 211 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: going to take one of those rims. I'll be in 212 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: a little tent outside the retreat center. 213 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: So let's talk the food, because you and I took 214 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: that pretty really really seriously, and it took us honestly. 215 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, the food can make it or break it, right, Yes, 216 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: I love food. Lola loves food to the like that 217 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: one hundredth level compared to me. So food is bad, yeah. 218 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: No, But for something that I really wanted on the 219 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: food departments, I wanted it to honor both our styles 220 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: of eating. And although we both eat quite healthily, they're 221 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: different value systems. So you eat predominantly plant based, right, 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: and I've almost leaned a little bit the other way 223 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: and gone a bit more paleo, and I'm so glad 224 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: that as as we've been planning this retreat, I've been 225 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: also doing my own research on plant based living, and 226 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm more inspired to lean into your style of living, 227 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: just bring it on. So we've actually got a wonderful 228 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: herbalist and natural path doing all the catering and food 229 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: for us. She's incredible. But I said, listen, I knowed 230 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: this stuff. 231 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: Looks amazing the pictures you've sent me. I'm like, oh 232 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: my god, this looks beautiful. 233 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: So stunning, and like an example for people seeing of 234 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: an entree is like a raw she goes, have a 235 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: little look at my raw vegan pizza and it's like 236 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: the most beautiful. It's almost like two pretty deasy yes. 237 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: So that's what I thought when I saw the food. 238 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, this field it's like 239 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: a work of art, right. 240 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Right, So it's plant based, but it's still going to 241 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: be gluten free. Obviously, it's going to be dairy free 242 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: as well, So we're really honoring both our styles of eating, 243 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: which is really exciting. The goal with the food, and 244 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: we really have had quite a few conversations about this, 245 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: like do you want to feel like I've just had 246 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: delicious food, but I don't necessarily feel cleansed or detox 247 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: But because we're working with an amazing herbalist and natural bath, 248 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: that means that things are going to be infused with 249 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: herbs that are great for detoxification cleansing, which partnered with 250 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: the yolks, is going to be so medicinal for the body. 251 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: So it is going to be a really beautiful nourishing retreat. 252 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: It's six nine seven days. M h. It's springtime, so 253 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: perfect time to spring clean and feel good and reset 254 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: your totally life and God and mind. And I cannot wait. 255 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: I honed to do this with you. 256 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh likewise, wait back at you. We're gonna have so 257 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: much fun together. Like for those of you who are listening, 258 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: only come if you want to have fun. 259 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: That should be our little tagline. 260 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: But like nourishing fun. You know, we're definitely not going 261 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: to be doing shots. There's no alcohol allowed on premises. 262 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: Just f yi, this is like a nourishing, wholesome retreat 263 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: where Lola and I we just I'm not you can't 264 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: see us right now, but we just vibe off of 265 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: each other, so it's it's going to feel like a 266 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: little family by the end of the retreat. 267 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I will say, I am going to 268 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: be sneaking in coffee, So just so you know, if 269 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: you're listening, coffee is optional. Oh yes, you totally don't 270 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: have to, but yeah, I'm going to sneak some more 271 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: world mine. 272 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: I can understand the caffeine. Yeah, I've recently started drinking 273 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: coffee myself, so I totally understand you're coffee actually, which 274 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: is amazing. The mushrooms, Oh. 275 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we love the medicinal mushies for brain function. We 276 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: might even talk about medicinal mushies on the retreat because 277 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: there's and I'm not talking just so you know, we're 278 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: not talking magic MUSHes here, were medicinal. So there's a 279 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: whole therapeutic kind of group of mushrooms for immune systems, 280 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: brain function, and lines made is one of the brain 281 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: function ones, which is what we were just talking about. 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: Now. 283 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm a massive ho fan. So for people that might 284 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: be new to you or they haven't heard the first part. 285 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: What's of huff stands for a Heart of Vinyasa. It's 286 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: an online studio, so Basically, when COVID hit in Melbourne, 287 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: I had to put my teachings online, and I wanted 288 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: to create an online platform that really honored Vinyasa yoga, 289 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: which is predominantly what I teach, but also offers online 290 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: sorry conditioning as well. So my conditioning classes are kind 291 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: of a fusion between interval training and plates, and some 292 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: of them they're so good and some of them are 293 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: more definitely pilates. But basically I wanted to offer an 294 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: online platform that was well rounded in that the yoga 295 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: complemented the conditioning, and the conditioning complemented the yoga, and 296 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: then you also have meditation classes, You have y and 297 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: yoga classes, you have a beginner series. There's also like 298 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: little challenge programs on have like ten day challenges that 299 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: you can do yourself. There's a yoga and meditation challenge. 300 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: There's a Hub challenge which is like the conditioning, the pilates, 301 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: the yoga, the meditation, and I do philosophy talks. So yeah, 302 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: it's a great platform. We have guest teachers on. 303 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: There are some of the people that I trained. 304 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: With, Yes May yeah, and there yeah, yeah, some special 305 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: peepes on there. 306 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: There is Yes yeah, So and I just I will say, 307 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: HO got me through Melbourn lockdown. And I still, even 308 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: though we've got access to beautiful yogs here Environ because 309 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: we live pretty COVID reasonably COVID free here, I still 310 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: dip in and absolutely love it. So thank you for 311 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: something that U craate. And I know people all over 312 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: the world love hof. I'll see it on your I 313 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: see it on your socials and yeah, I'm a massive fan. 314 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: I love the chat. I love getting into the ten 315 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: day challenges because you can kind of hold yourself accountable. 316 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Another thing that I love. And I only discovered the 317 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: philosophy bit I reckon a month or tween or maybe 318 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: it was a challenge that I noticed you did a 319 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: philosophy chat and I was like, oh my god, this 320 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: is amazing. And obviously I knew how good your philosophy 321 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: was from doing your teach training, because you did your 322 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: Dharama talks yea often at the starter class. I hope 323 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: you use the canoe one in the next teacher training. 324 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do it on the retreat, all right, 325 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: come to the retreat. I'll tell you my canoe tripping stories. 326 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: In Canada, people are like, oh, I'm not coming anymore. 327 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Don't worry. You don't have to canoe. You don't have 328 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: to canoe on this trait. But I I just wanted 329 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: to ask you some philosophy questions for people listening that 330 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: might not be able to get to the retreat. I thought, Oh, 331 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: why don't we just talk a few little like of 332 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: your favorite yogic philosophy for sure. Yeah, so one that 333 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you taught me last time we spoke. 334 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeplug lagima. Lagima's So, Lagima is a supernatural power that 335 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: you can accrue as being a yoga practitioner. So they 336 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: say in the yoga sutras, and the yoga sutras you 337 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: can kind of view them as like the Bible of 338 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: classical yoga philosophy. They say that if you practice yoga 339 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: with enough dedication and passion, eventually you'll begin to accrue 340 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: supernatural powers, and one of them is lagima. And it's 341 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: this ability to become so light that you levitate. Yeah, 342 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of like the magic carpet ride on Aladdin, 343 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: but yeah, you get so light that you can levitate. 344 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: And I like to make it a bit more practical 345 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: and just I like to conceptualize it as if you 346 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: practice yoga. With dedication and passion, you eventually begin to 347 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: crew this ability to be lighthearted about things, you know, 348 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: to have this lightness to you so that you don't 349 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: take everything that happens so seriously or able to be 350 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: a bit playful with life and playful with relationships. 351 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: I love it. 352 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, you're Well's the other one. 353 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just a little sponge when I'm around you. 354 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: When a yoga teacher at the starta class is let's 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: sit a san culpa, yea, what does that mean? 356 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: Let's set an intention? 357 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can set it for yourself or someone else. 358 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah you can. You can set an 359 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: intention for yourself. You can dedicate your practice or whatever 360 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: you're working on in your practice for someone else. So yes, 361 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 2: so nice. Intention work can be really helpful because it 362 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: really gets you clear on why you're doing what the 363 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: heck you're doing, because sometimes we get so caught up 364 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: in our routine that we forget why we're actually doing things. 365 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: And when we bring purpose and clarity to what doing, 366 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: it can really bring us into the present moment, which 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: is ultimately yoga. 368 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Totally. I could do this all day. I saw you 369 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: did a philosophy chat on the am I saying, is right, 370 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: the koshas, Yes. 371 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: Yep, what are they? So there's there's five koshas and 372 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: they're basically like the sheaths of who we are. And 373 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: the joke that I like to say is that the 374 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: koshas there's five sheets and it's kind of like an onion, 375 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: and as human beings were onions because there's layers to us. 376 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: We stinky and we make people cry. Kind of got 377 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: it from Shrek, you know, the donkeys like anyway, So, yeah, 378 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: the koshas are the layers of who we are. And 379 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: I think one of the main messages that I like 380 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: to talk about is that the deepest layer of who 381 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: you are is known as Ananda Maya Kosha and that 382 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: is known as your bliss body layer. So it's it's 383 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: kind of a cool concept that in the kosha is 384 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: the deepest aspect of who you are. You're Ananda Maya 385 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: Kosha is bliss is joy. 386 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 387 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful. 388 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: So I've also so you talk about the full layers 389 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: of the mind. 390 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's four kind of layers of the mind, 391 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: or you could say four functions of the mind, and 392 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: there's the ego. So there's ahamkara, there's booty, which is 393 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: like your higher intellect, your witness. There's cheetah, and then 394 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: there is this always happens. There's so many lists in yoga, ahamkara, boody, cheetah, 395 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: and manas. So okay, we got there are things. Well, 396 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: it's been a big day, teacher, trading to why I've 397 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: got to know everything? Okay, So you have ahamkar, you 398 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: have your ego. You have booty, which is like you're witnessing, 399 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: discriminating mind, so often considered your higher intellect, like view 400 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: it as like the Buddha of your mind. Yeah, and 401 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: then you have cheetah, which is sometimes considered like your 402 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: memory bank or just overall consciousness. And then manas is 403 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: like your sensory mind. And most of us operate between 404 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: manas like oh this is hot or this is cold, 405 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: or reacting to our senses. And then a lot of 406 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: us and then the second place most of us reside 407 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: is in the ahamkara, the ego, and the ego you 408 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: can think of it as the part of your mind 409 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: that's always making stories of about you. So it's like 410 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: I love Lola, I hate Lola. I love Byron Bay, 411 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: I hate Byron Bay always. I like this, I don't 412 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: like that. I wish this could be like this. The 413 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: eyemaker and most of us are caught up in this 414 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: narrative of our stories and continuously reacting to our environment. 415 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: So that's manas and aham kada, and the idea is 416 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: in yoga to operate more from body and booty is 417 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: this higher is often considered the higher mind, where you're 418 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: able to kind of observe and witness things and not 419 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: be so caught up in all your self centered stories. 420 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 2: Because that sounds a bit intense, but it's true, and 421 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: not be so caught up in your habitual reactions to 422 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: all of your senses. It's that kind of like you 423 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: could view booty as kind of like the bird's eye 424 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: view of your life. 425 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: And it almost comes back full circle to what you 426 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: were saying about, Like you'd have to be pretty clear 427 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: to be coming from that. But like when you're in 428 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: more in that space, like it sounds like you've got 429 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: all the charity. And then I've heard and I know 430 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: I've said this is a yoga teacher, but often I'll say, 431 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: like calming the fluctuations of the mind is it and 432 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: the monkey brain and all that? And is it coming 433 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: the ritty? 434 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Is that what I mean? 435 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: And that's to calm the fluctuations, That's what that means. Yes, Yeah, 436 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: And when that happens, is that when you can get 437 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: to that more clarity Buddher style. 438 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd even you'd actually technically even surpass the booty, 439 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: and the booty and and the cheetah and the manas 440 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: and the aham kada would be also still that you 441 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: only begin to see spirit. 442 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that sounds pretty cool. 443 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does sound cool. It's very enticing. You know, 444 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: we've got to entice people in some way, you know. 445 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 1: Oh, so cool? All right, just two more Okay, this 446 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: this I know, I'm going to say this right, suck 447 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: shut shat karma firsthand experience, no of sha karma? Is 448 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: that what it is? Or is that not what it is? 449 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: Yes, it's experiencing something for yourself, a direct experience. 450 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: So that would be like physically doing Is it physically 451 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: experiencing something or is it. 452 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: It's physically experiencing something for you? Okay, So this is 453 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: kind of a whole idea of Eastern spirituality compared to 454 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: Western kind of philosophy. Eastern spirituality generally believes that you 455 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: have to experience something firsthand in order for you to 456 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: fully comprehend it. Gotch versus Often Western philosophy and academia 457 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: and even spirituality of religion is like, oh, you can 458 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: understand it by just learning it. God you don't. But 459 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: Eastern spiritualities like this is very general. You need to 460 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: experience it firsthand. And that's what shuts shut karma. 461 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: Is, and that's where the wisdom and the knowing and 462 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: all that comes because you've been through that thing. 463 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've experienced it firsthand. And so in yoga, 464 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: what we're trying to do I mean is as a 465 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: yoga teacher, we're trying to give space for our students 466 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: to experience yoga firsthand themselves, rather than depending on someone 467 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: else or certain teachings. It's like, no, you're your own teacher, 468 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: and can we set the grounds for you to experience 469 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: yoga by yourself firsthand? 470 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: You're very cool? 471 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: Thank you? 472 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: Okay? Sam scourra what Sam. 473 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 2: Scour Some scattas are like impressions left in your mind? 474 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh wow? So they are basically like any thought you have, 475 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: any action you do leaves an imprint in your mind. 476 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: So things that you do habitually have big impressions in 477 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: your mind. So you can think of some scotta as 478 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: an impression. So if you habitually wash your hands every 479 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: night before you go to bed, you have a pretty 480 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: big subscota of washing your hands. It's like this grooved 481 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: impression in your psyche. You know, if you go cross 482 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: country skiing, you go on cross country ski tracks or 483 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: pecific tracks made by a machine that you put your 484 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: skis in to go across the snow, and so that's 485 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: like a deep groovesome scotta. It's kind of like this 486 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: habitual way of acting that you're more or less stuck in. 487 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: So they can be imagining positive and negatives. 488 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Yes, and so the practice of yoga is being aware 489 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: of your some scattas and choosing positive ones that take 490 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: you in the direction you need to go as a 491 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 2: spiritual practitioner, but then also being mindful at the end 492 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: of the day there's still some scata that you can 493 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: get kind of stuck in. So the whole idea of 494 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: yoga is being aware of our habitual patterns and creating 495 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: awareness around them and then asking ourselves do we want 496 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: to stay here or do we want to carve a 497 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 2: new path? And do we have the ability to carve 498 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: a new path because it often requires a bit of 499 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: you know, st Yeah, if you really like this one 500 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: cross country skiing track, sometimes it can be hard to 501 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: be willing to try a new one. 502 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of like when they talk 503 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: about neuroplasticity and when you set new habits in the brain. 504 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: That's exactly it. 505 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: My final one is and I remember this from teacher 506 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: training with you. Sorry, it's got his big white eyes. 507 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: We'll get me going. What is Lola about to say? 508 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: You teach? And there's a beautiful yogic philosophy around consistent discipline, yes, 509 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: but also non attachment to the outcome? What are those? 510 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: There's a consistent consistent discipline consistent afrot is known as 511 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: tap us, yeah, and nine attachments known as a bad 512 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: I gain it can sometimes. 513 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: Not That's the word I was asking about for Yeah, yeah. 514 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 2: Top us, there's to us. I'm hungry, that's always. 515 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: And then I get scared that I think about it 516 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: too much what I'm teaching a class? And then I 517 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: get scared that I say tap us like a bum 518 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: like I'm telling someone to do that, and so I 519 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: always trip over it and I have to like quickly 520 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: talk about it real. So that's that's certain. That's sometimes 521 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: in class when we're building heat, sometimes we can be 522 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: building that. 523 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the top us, yeap. So tap us is 524 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: the effort required to move forward. 525 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: And then this is the thing that I always struggle 526 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: with being an A type personality with yoga, Like you 527 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: rock up on your mat, you do the work right, 528 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: you do, you have the discipline to be consistent, but 529 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: you can't be attached or now it come like a 530 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: back bend. I love my back bend, and you know, 531 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: like and that idea of like letting go of the 532 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: need for it to look like something right. 533 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: And that's the second one bad IgA. So that i 534 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: GA translates as non attachment. And the thing is in 535 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: our yoga practice and in our life we can be 536 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 2: attached to things. So it's nothing wrong, Like that's actually 537 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: probably a good human quality to have. Yeah, it's to 538 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: be attached to people we love, be attached to being 539 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: able to do a handstand or backbends. The whole idea 540 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: in yoga is acknowledging that the whole material world is 541 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 2: always changing. So the reason why we practice non attachment 542 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: is not to make ourselves cold or distant with the 543 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: things that are important in our life, But it's about 544 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: acknowledging that those things will eventually change, because the whole 545 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: world's always changing. So how can we build a healthy 546 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: relationship with those people and things when we truly understand 547 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: that at some point it will change in some way? 548 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: How can we build a relationship that allows for that. 549 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: So Vadaiga is giving space for our lovers to change, 550 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: giving space for our wealth to change, giving space for 551 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: our backbends to maybe look different from day to day, 552 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: all the meanwhile still being okay with being attached to them, 553 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: because that's a total human quality to have. 554 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could talk to you all day about this. 555 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. 556 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: I love it too. 557 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing these philosophy takeaways as well. 558 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: I really appreciate. And I know I threw you in 559 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: the deep end and just said, hey, we're going to 560 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: check for a lot. 561 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: I know you should have seen me. Everyone. I was 562 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: like deer in headlights. It's like Virgo likes to plan. 563 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: You've done beautifully, my friend, And I'm going to put 564 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: all the links in the show notes for our retreat. Yes, 565 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: I cannot believe. 566 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: I'm happy, excited, like so so so excited. For those 567 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: of you listening, if you are able to come, it's 568 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: going to be a really special time. Just think beautiful, 569 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: beautiful environment, beautiful people Laura and Duncan who are just 570 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: so excited and so happy to share all of our 571 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: things with you, and a whole like six nights just 572 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: around being nourished and taking care of ourselves and learning 573 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: about ourselves and just having some time to herself and 574 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: sometime with amazing people. Yeah, it's great food. 575 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, deliciamo food. We've been planning menus. 576 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm so hungry, I'm ready to eat. 577 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my friend. I'm also going to 578 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: put links to hob In here as well because it's 579 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: something that I love and I just think you've created 580 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: something absolutely unreal and it's a real honor to be 581 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: your mate. 582 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: Ah, thank you. Read back at you, Laurla. I love you, 583 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: lots love you. 584 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 585 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 586 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry This potty my word 587 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 588 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment, and of 589 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: course spread the love.