1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Dowered buddy, I'm right here, wab from ninety six air 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: f am to wherever you're listening today. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: This is Crazy and Leas's podcast coming up. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: On the podcast, we caught up with sleep expert Emma merit. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: Then we took your calls on weird Dreams. 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 3: And Hey, you talked about the doctors, cricket, and a whole. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 4: Lot more, and we chatted about shoes for various reasons. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 4: Emma Merritt is a sleep expert and ambassador for Emma Mattresses, 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 4: which is a coincidence she's joining us now. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Hello Emmaiam, Hi morning Emma. How does one become a 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: sleep expert? 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 5: To be honest, it really depends. I'm working with a 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 5: team of neuroscientists, psychologists. I myself studied things like child developments, 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 5: so psychology basically in university, and gradually you end up 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: becoming a little bit more interested in sleep because you 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 5: know it's something that everybody does. Obviously we spend about 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 5: a third of our lives sleeping, but actually we don't 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 5: know that much about it. So I have always been 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 5: intrigued by the things that we kind of take for 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: grants that are going on in the human mind. And 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 5: then when I started working at EMMA, I got to 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: start studying in a more professional capacity. 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Oh right, and there's the truth that we're missing out 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: one hundreds of hours a sleep of sleep. 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: Agear, and can you catch up? Is that possible? 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, yes, it is true. So research that EMMA commissioned 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: on this topic in Australia in particular found that the 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 5: average Aussie gets only six point four hours of sleep 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 5: per night. That's quite a far cry from the seven 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 5: to nine hours that we generally recommend. As far as 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 5: catching up a little bit controversial, Some studies say that yes, 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 5: you can, to an extent make up for lost sleep, buy, 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: for example, sleeping a little bit longer. But of course, 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 5: if you, for example, sleep six hours one night, if 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: you have a little bit more time to catch some 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 5: sees the next day, odds are that you're not going 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 5: to be sleeping twice the amount that you normally would, right, 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: so you're still not going to be getting you know, 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 5: all of the sleep that you necessarily needed. 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 5: However, you can catch up a little bit as far 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 5: as for example, there's something called rem rebound where if 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 5: you miss out on some rem in one night when 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 5: you have the opportunity, your body automatically tries to make 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: up for it by increasing the amount of rem that 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 5: you experience. So always better to at least try to 47 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 5: make up for it than you just remain eternally sleep deprived. 48 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: It's not as good at getting a consistent seventy nine 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 5: hours each night. 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's something because I guess, I mean I 51 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: do I catch up on a Saturday morning. Obviously we 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: get up pretty early, but you know that doesn't help 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: me on Friday morning after I didn't have. 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: Much sleep on firsday. That's it exactly how important is 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: good sleep to a good work day. 56 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 5: It's so important. So one thing that we found in 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: our recent commissioning for Australia was actually the about two 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 5: and five younger Australians call in sick to work due 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: to lack of sleep. That's an obvious issue as far 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: as performance goes. You're not at work, you're not performing, 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 5: you're not catching up on the tasks you have to do. 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 5: But good place is also extremely important for for example, 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 5: making good decisions for emotional well being and control. Obviously, 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: it also impacts your immune system, your problem solving skills, 65 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: and your cognitive function are improved by sleep. One of 66 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 5: my favorite studies, they had participants come in and try 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 5: to solve some problems, and they had a control group 68 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: that took a break stayed awake. Another experimental group that 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: went home, went to sleep, plup dight hours and then 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: came back and did the same problems. It found the 71 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 5: problem solving group solved eighty percent more problems after they 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: had a good night's sleep compared to the control group 73 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: who didn't sleep. 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: Ah. 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: Interesting. 76 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: What about the merits of a yes, cesto, I have 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: a sleep during the die between thirty minutes and an 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: hour each day. 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: Is it meant to be healthy or is it bad? 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 7: It's definitely good for you. 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: So our general recommendation right off of that, as far 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 5: as napping goes, is if you have trouble falling asleep 83 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: at night, skip the nap because that means that you 84 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: are not tired enough when you're going to bed. As 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 5: far as your napping habits, I would say maybe try 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 5: to cut it a little bit shorter, to like twenty 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: minutes a day. And the reason I say that is 88 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: because typically a twenty minute or shorter nap you enter 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 5: into a stage of sleep called light sleep, and light 90 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: sleep is super good for things like learning, for motor 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 5: control and things like that. It's also a lot easier 92 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 5: to wake up from. After about twenty minutes, then you 93 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 5: enter into the stage of sleep called deep sleep, and 94 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: as the name implies, you are sleeping more deeply, but 95 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: it also means that it's harder to wake up from. 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 5: So if you are woken up from a nap in 97 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 5: the stage of deep sleep, then you're going to experience 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: something called sleep inertia, and that's a cognitive phenomenon where 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 5: basically you feel sluggish, you know, like the means of 100 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 5: people who wake up from a nap and you're like, 101 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 5: where am I? 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 7: What year is it? What's going on? 103 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: Those people are probably waking up from deep sleep. They're 104 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 5: experiencing sleep inertia, and it typically lasts between thirty and 105 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 5: four forty five minutes. So if you want to be 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: cognitively at your best right after waking up from an app, 107 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 5: keep it maybe closer to twenty minutes. 108 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: Emma, what do you think is the number one thing 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: that affects people's sleep? 110 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: Is it stress? 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 7: Stress? For sure? 112 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 5: Nowadays especially I think the vast majority of people that 113 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 5: I talk to who have problems with their sleep, complain 114 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 5: about some form of stress, either family or work, or 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 5: just general anxiety. I mean, we all know the past 116 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: three years in particular have been have done with quite 117 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 5: a number on our mental health, and so people need 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 5: more than ever now to focus on mindfulness techniques, on 119 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 5: finding ways to wind down and figure out what feels 120 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: good for them in the evening, to relax and kind 121 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: of turn off that nagging voice in the back of 122 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: their head about tests unfinished or things that they want 123 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 5: to do tomorrow. 124 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: Okay, what about broad strains just before bedtime? I've been 125 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: told that many a time, don't look. 126 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: At your phone. 127 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, the right screens can definitely have an impact. Blue light, 128 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: for example, may impact your body's response to produce melatonin, 129 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: which is an important neurotransmitter for promoting sleeps. Essentially, the 130 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: other thing that is less talked about on your phone 131 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 5: as well is actually what you're looking at. So nowadays 132 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: we have our blue light filters. Everybody's like, oh, well, 133 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: I've turned on my nightmode on my phone so that 134 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 5: means I can use it right up until I close 135 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: my eyes and. 136 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 7: Go to bed. 137 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 8: Right. 138 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 7: The thing is the things that. 139 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: You are typically viewing on your phone, social media, your 140 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: text messages, god forbid, your work emails are also not 141 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 5: necessarily going to help you relax, calm down, stop thinking 142 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: about the day. 143 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: Et cetera. 144 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: I mean, social media in particular is designed to be addictive. 145 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: It's designed to make you want to keep scrolling, to 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 5: keep watching the next video of a chat jumping into 147 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 5: a pool, or a parrot doing a dance. Those are 148 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 5: really good and stimulating, but that's exactly the opposite of 149 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: what you want when you're trying to. 150 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: Fall, especially when that happened in the side video. 151 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: Am obviously apart from screens, and I've always thought that 152 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: you shouldn't eat just before bed. What are some what 153 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: are your top tips for getting a good night sleep? 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 5: The number one tip I would give is a consistent schedule. 155 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: It's a little bit tricky for people to actually stick to, 156 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: because of course you like to have a lion on 157 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: the weekend, But as far as you can, trying to 158 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: go to bed at the same time plus or minus 159 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: an hour and get up at the same time each 160 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: day is really really good way to help your body 161 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: get into a rhythm for your brain to know when 162 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: it should start preparing sleep processes and when it should 163 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 5: start reducing the activity of you. Wake Promoting areas super important. 164 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 5: Hard to implement, but if you can, you're golden. 165 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 8: Right. 166 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned about the cat videos because you 167 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: know they're not I'll call myself looking at a cat 168 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: video while the cat was climbing on me, I'm as 169 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: well just been living a watch again. 170 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Cat videos is what the internet is for, Lacy all. 171 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 7: Right, I really didn't agree with that. 172 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: Very valuable advice. Thank you so much for joining us. 173 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 7: Thank you so much. 174 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: By Hadny. 175 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: Weird dreams lately, so many, so many. 176 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: We want to open up the phones, but sometimes dreams 177 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: can be a bit interrupting. Weird the house so often 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: you don't remember them when you wake up. But I 179 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: do have a lot of weird dreams. I had a 180 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: weird dream last night. I dreamt that I was living 181 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: next door to this really big house and it had 182 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: a really, really extensive backyard, and for some reason, they 183 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: were mowing the lawns and had the whipper snipper going 184 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: at two thirty in the morning, just what you want, 185 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: and all the other neighbors were looking over their fences. 186 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: At them, like what the and I yelled out, is 187 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: too that in the you know what? Morning? 188 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 9: Shut up? 189 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: And that's it. 190 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: It don't And the whipper snipper in my head in 191 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: my dream was so loud that. 192 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: It wiped me up. 193 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: That's that is bizarre. 194 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: I had to go to the toilet as well, of course, But. 195 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: We can read some wee less. 196 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I have dreams like Raiders of the Last Arc, you know, 197 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: like these incredible adventures, really like a Spielberg kind of thing, 198 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: over and over. 199 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: Is there a theme tune? 200 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 10: No? 201 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: Not probably? 202 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know those movies are the ones that Nicholas 203 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: Cage used to make. And that's just like this full 204 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: on adventures. I go, why is my brain doing this 205 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: to me? 206 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 11: Well? 207 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: I have a question. Do you dream in black and 208 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: white or color color? Yeah? 209 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: Me in living color high definition. I've heard that some 210 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: people only dream in black and white. 211 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 12: Yeah. 212 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: Well where you go? 213 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 4: Well, we want to hear about your dreams. Diane in Morley. 214 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: What's the weirdest dream you've had? Oh it is strange. 215 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 8: I happen to be driving past a school, saw a 216 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 8: child playing with a tiger snake, which bitter on the singer. 217 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 8: Now I knew, I knew I had to torn, ok, 218 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 8: like the whole arm and I only had a piece 219 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 8: of cloth to tie around a finger. Rushed you to 220 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 8: emergency room and I'm yelling out tiger snakes, tiger snake, 221 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 8: and nothing's coming out of my mouth. 222 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: Then my husband woke me up and he said, you're okay. 223 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 7: I was yelling out like. 224 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 8: Staking pictures. 225 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: As he can do. 226 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: It's your wrong. I was trying to get the attention 227 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: of the emergency room. Yeah, how bizarre, but it really was. 228 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 7: Oh my god. Well, we used to have a pet snake. 229 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: You see someone's hat snakes on the brain. 230 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: Thanks Diane, That is weird. No worries, David and jan Chip, 231 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: good morning. Come on you we're talking about weird dreams. 232 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: You want to tell us about your dad? 233 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, typical classic old man. So many years 234 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 9: ago now, we started a new job as a garage 235 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 9: door in store. So he started doing this job and 236 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 9: Mum would wake up in the middle of the night. 237 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 6: To this this, this tapping, this knocking, and on one 238 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: occasion she found him kneeling on the bed tapping on 239 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 6: the wall trying to put a door up on the 240 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 6: bed head. But the best one was when she woke 241 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 6: up to complaining and winking, and she got out of 242 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 6: bed and he's sliding the on sweet sliding door left 243 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 6: to right, left to right, complaining that the door's not 244 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 6: going up and. 245 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: Down sideways. 246 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: Because he's a garage store installer. Class that's right, fabulous. 247 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: Takes his work home. 248 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thank you. 249 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: David Claire in Thornleigh, Hello. 250 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 7: Good morning Clarsey and Lisa. How you going today to go? 251 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: For us? 252 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: You dream? 253 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 7: It's not so much me. I don't dream, so I'm 254 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 7: not sure if I'm on that weird population that don't dream. 255 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 7: But my boss she dreams. So she comes in last 256 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: week and she said to me, I had a real 257 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 7: weird dream and I don't really want to discuss it. 258 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 7: And I said, come on, if it's weird, you've got 259 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 7: to say it now. She said she was in a 260 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 7: room of people that she doesn't know and they're all 261 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 7: waiting for something, and what it was. It was her 262 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 7: worst fear, which is foot massages. She said she had 263 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 7: to massage someone's feet, but it gets worse. She ends 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 7: up having to massage Voldemort's. 265 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: Feet from her Oh dear, she. 266 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 7: Said, you know, I was rubbing oil all over them. 267 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 7: And massage in them, and she said, I was sort 268 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 7: of like even at the same time. And I just 269 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 7: find that really bizarre that all her fears that she's 270 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 7: scared of, she dreams of, but in really bizarre ways. 271 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: Together at once. 272 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 7: Money. So we just keep bringing it up every week 273 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 7: now to her. 274 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Claire, Lisa and Pinjarick. Good morning. 275 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 8: Hi. 276 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: What's your mum's weird dream? 277 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 10: We were planning a trip to Hong Kong Disneylands for 278 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 10: in a couple of weeks and my mom found me 279 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 10: with a terrible dream that we actually lost my son. 280 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 10: I was about nine or ten at the time. And 281 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 10: we got there and yes, we actually did lose him 282 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 10: because it was swept up in the crowd and we 283 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 10: couldn't found him for a few minutes. Yeah, so it 284 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 10: was a dream that actually did come through it. 285 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 8: Well, Hong Kong. 286 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: Land, it's a small world until you lose your kid exactly. 287 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: It's monstrous. 288 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Wow. Did you tell Lisa that it came true? Hey? 289 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 7: She was there. 290 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, part of the search party. 291 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: So that's weird. And it with a premonition. 292 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: Where do you find him chilling with goofy or something? 293 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: What was he doing? 294 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 10: He was old enough to work out to find a 295 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 10: gardener and hung out with him. Sure we found him. 296 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Lisa, Nadine and Quanana. 297 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: Hello, good day. What was your weird dream? 298 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 11: This is about fifteen years ago, going through a bit 299 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 11: of a stressful time and having some weird dreams. 300 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: And I actually dreamt I was being chased by a giant. 301 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 8: Talking cricket because I'd sold his stash of cocaine. 302 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: Oh you know they're making movies like that now, don't you, greeks? Wow, 303 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: well did you wake up going where the hell did 304 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: that come from? 305 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 8: No? 306 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: I woke up just as I hit the bottom of 307 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: the stairs after I fell out of the house. 308 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: And the dream in the dream, in the dream, okay. 309 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: And do you have a fear of crickets? 310 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: No, not at all. Frogs, yes, but not crickets. All right, Wow, 311 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: I can't go past that. 312 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: Great we did us for weird dreams and that's about 313 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: as weird as it gets. 314 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: Thanks very much more more Lisa, more podcasts. 315 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: And good morning, good morning. I'm just going to leave 316 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: the room. 317 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, I think so. 318 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: Your fingers and your ears for a minute half loss 319 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: for free. I knocked them down to what thirteenth on 320 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: the ladder, although we are still in the longest by Yeah, 321 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: your time. 322 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 12: Still going next week. 323 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 11: Yes, Yes, it wasn't a great day for the Dockers 324 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 11: and whether they still had the post by blues is 325 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 11: to be seen this week if they can turn it around. 326 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 11: But it wasn't a great day. They lost by seventy 327 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 11: points to the Giants. It's their biggest loss under coach 328 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 11: Justin Longmuir. 329 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 12: Really, yeah, it was a good dam wasn't pretty, was it? No? 330 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 11: It wasn't their first quarter again let them down. So 331 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 11: another start. They've lost sixteen of their last seventeen first quarters, 332 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 11: so I think because their first quarters haven't been great, 333 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 11: people thought maybe they were going to turn it around 334 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 11: after that really slow start, but they just didn't. And 335 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 11: Long you were set after the game. You can't just 336 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 11: look at the first quarter here, you have to look 337 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 11: at a the entire game, but also their preparation leading 338 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 11: up to the week, because you don't play like that 339 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 11: just based on game day. It's the whole week. They 340 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 11: need to look up, look into their preparation, the coaching staff. 341 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 11: So they've got a lot of soul searching to do 342 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 11: this week. But they're making their run to finals pretty hard. 343 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to beat the Bombers on Optus on Saturday. 344 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, and they are expecting to get Sean Darcy back, 345 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 11: which is a. 346 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: Huge speak swagging a. 347 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 11: Huge in for them, so they'll be close to a 348 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 11: full strength side. The only one they'll be missing is 349 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 11: Heath Chapman, who's still won two weeks away with his hamstring. 350 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 11: But Seawn Darcy is expected to come back, so that's great. 351 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 11: Long Mule did say in the postmatch that he does 352 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 11: without him. It does actually have an impact on how 353 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 11: they play because Jackson then moves rather than spending time 354 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 11: in the forward line. 355 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 12: He's their main ruf. 356 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 11: And then Josh Tracy, who was also in the forward line, 357 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 11: then his back up rocks. So their forward line, which 358 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 11: is already pretty young with Amos and Tracy, is under 359 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 11: more pressure. Yeah, so which you could see. You know, 360 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 11: Amos hardly got the ball, but that's also he. 361 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: Was on delivery. 362 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, so hopefully they can turn it around this weekend. 363 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 12: Frederick he's also likely to come back. 364 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 11: He was laid out against the Giants with an ankle 365 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 11: complaint so wrong he still wanted to look for he 366 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 11: did play, I said he had that ankle niggle. He 367 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 11: did play, but there was one part of the game 368 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 11: where he pulled out of a contest and he looked 369 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 11: pretty sore. Okay, so I think he's still dealing with it. 370 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 11: I wouldn't call it an injury. I just call it 371 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 11: an issue. So he will play through it. 372 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: But little tender. 373 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, he's not one hundred percent gung ho. 374 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: You'd be wary, wouldn't you doing anything too dramatic? 375 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, it does impact how they play because it would 376 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 11: be I mean, even if I've got a slightly sore 377 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 11: ankle and I go for a run, it's better stop and. 378 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: I just want to run this play. So obviously the 379 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: free Our boys have got talent. We saw how they 380 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: played against Melbourne. We saw, you know, the talent doesn't 381 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: just go away, and how they played against gel Long 382 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: and Sydney. But is it about systems and strategy and 383 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: how they implement that? 384 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 8: Is that? 385 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: Do you think that's what it is when they fall 386 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: down so poorly like this? 387 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it definitely plays a part, and that's 388 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 11: what they're going to have to look at personnel again, 389 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 11: that Darcy plays another part. 390 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 12: But they can beat really good teams eat Geelong. 391 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 11: They beat Melbourne so and they lost to Tigers and Giants, 392 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 11: both winnable games, so they are going to have to 393 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 11: look at those sort of areas of their game. They've 394 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 11: got Essendon then Western Bulldogs and Coulton next, which again 395 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 11: are winnable games. 396 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: Well hopefully they's just one of those. One of those games. 397 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, they were taking the you know, the Eagles on 398 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 11: the by. 399 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 12: They thought, all right, we'll take one for the team. 400 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: The Eagles are back this week and could have a 401 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: few big names back. 402 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 11: Yea, hopefully, so they're coming off there by. Hopefully it 403 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 11: was a really good reset for them. 404 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 12: They needed it. 405 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 11: As I said on Friday, young guys like Jimbi who 406 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 11: have played every single game, their bodies would. 407 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 12: Be really really fresh enough. 408 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 11: So you know, hopefully a week off has done that. 409 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 11: So McGovern, Dugan, Brass and Hearne all likely to return, 410 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 11: all for defenders and leadership. 411 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 3: You know they're the older So Elliot, might you had 412 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: to run on the ball. 413 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 12: Your man. 414 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 11: Exactly, I might actually see what you know, his full 415 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 11: ability in the in the midfield hopefully, But we can't 416 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 11: expect a miracle either, just because these four guys have returned. 417 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 11: Don't think that they're suddenly going to be what you know, 418 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 11: a premission contender, but hopefully we do see some improvement 419 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 11: and how they've been playing, we should see improvement. 420 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 12: All just don't expect a miracle. 421 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 11: Just trying to expecte but it changes as good as 422 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 11: a holiday, so it is. 423 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: I'll have those guys back. 424 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 12: I've recently learned that I've just changed my recovery in 425 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 12: my room. 426 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 4: And it's there's nothing like new bedding is there. 427 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 12: There really is a fresh sheet, new new artwork. It's 428 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 12: the best the new means. 429 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: I don't think the Englishman would be happy batting in 430 00:19:54,240 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: a bit of rain last night. I shouldn't a couple 431 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: of idal wickets. 432 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 11: Yet two for twenty eight, so I think they were 433 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 11: very happy when game was was called off. 434 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, not be easy to bat in those conditions. 435 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: Especially against the Australian fast ballers. 436 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 11: No, I would not want to face them, face comings 437 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 11: and in that No, not even broad daylights time. 438 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 12: I want to face them. 439 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 11: So yeah, Unfortunately rain came to spoil the party in 440 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 11: edge Baston yesterday. The Ossie's finished with three hundred and 441 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 11: eighty six, all thanks to Osmond Kowaja his fifteenth Test century, 442 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 11: his first sentry in England though, So that was nice, sensational, Yeah, 443 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 11: really special for him that Ossie's their tail end was 444 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 11: absolutely cleaned up. Their final four wickets fell for fourteen. 445 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kouwaja celebration was something else. Screaming as he realized 446 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: it was going for four and he runs through on 447 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: his back. 448 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, and he was saying that you know, when you're 449 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 11: under criticism and things like that, it makes it so 450 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 11: much sweeter when you do get us. 451 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 12: Absolutely, which you can imagine to live by. Yeah. Absolutely, 452 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 12: So that's. 453 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 4: A lot of Test centuries, it is. I remember his 454 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: first Test. He was so excited and his mum and 455 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: dad were there and it's. 456 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Really cute they did that where he had been dropped 457 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: seven times or something from the Australian team, something ridiculous. 458 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 11: Over time, then he got his chance back and he 459 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 11: proved himself. So it's one for us all to be 460 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 11: inspired by. But yeah, so they fell England are two 461 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 11: rather for twenty eight at stumps on day three. Zack 462 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 11: Crawley and Ben Duckett dismissed moments before the rain arrived. 463 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 11: So that's when when it did arrive, they would have. 464 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 2: Okay, cold could have a couple of minutes earlier, let's. 465 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 11: Go to the rooms. So it's really hanging the balance 466 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 11: now heading into day four. 467 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 12: Could go either way. 468 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 11: I think it would have been nice if the Aussies 469 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 11: they are just seven runs behind England with their score 470 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 11: three hundred and eighty six, it would have been nice 471 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 11: if they could have surpassed it. 472 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get a bit of a leading. 473 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 11: Heah yeah, just in the at the end of the 474 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 11: first innings. But it's okay, We've got this very even. 475 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the girls missed out on a second finals chance 476 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: the Fever they did. 477 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 12: I think it's because I spoke them up too much. No, 478 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 12: I jinxed them. 479 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 11: They needed to beat Collingwood to secure that doubles final chance. 480 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 11: They lost, so they finished third on the super Net 481 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 11: Bawl Ladder and they now take on the Melbourne Vixen's 482 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 11: at r C Arena in a sudden death clash. 483 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 12: But they do get a home game. 484 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 11: It's two pm on Saturday, so that's good home crowd. 485 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 12: That fever pitch. 486 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 11: Maybe they need you to go clary and just lower 487 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 11: the register. 488 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: So what are they playing off for for? 489 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 12: A chance in the semi final. 490 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, rush, they just needed the points to yeah, 491 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: to graduate further in there. 492 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: They have a better start to the final car. 493 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 12: So they lose this one, they're out, but. 494 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: There's their chances are still yeah. 495 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Colling girls it was their last game 496 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: because they put the. 497 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 12: Nice for them. That's probably that added motivation to win. 498 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: Especially for Ash Brazil, who's a wonderful sports person. 499 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 500 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 11: Absolutely so not ideal for the fever, but they absolutely 501 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 11: still win with a chance okay to go. 502 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 3: Back to back, very good and f one. What's going 503 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: on in the world of Formula one? 504 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Yes, so yeah. 505 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 12: Can you guess? 506 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 11: Thanks for Stefan in the Canadian Grand Prix overnight, which 507 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 11: makes it four straight wins for him and it makes 508 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 11: it the one hundredth victory for Red. 509 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 12: Bull as a team. 510 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: Wow, absolute powerhouse to give you wings. 511 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 11: Absolutely, yeah, that does absolutely give you wings. Dull Day 512 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 11: absolutely kicking himself for not hanging around. 513 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 12: I'm kicking him for not hanging. 514 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: The other day that he's thinking like he might move 515 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: into commentation. Yeah they did say that. 516 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, Okay, it'd be really really good. 517 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a bit of a brand. Ambassador at the moment. 518 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: Isn't it another team? 519 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 12: Okay, so he definitely could go into it. I'd listen 520 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 12: to him. 521 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: Get in there with croffee and all the game. 522 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so light. 523 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 11: I think he's the best commentator. I love Crafty absolutely. 524 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 11: We had him on the show. 525 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: It was great. 526 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: He really so awesome. I didn't know who he was. 527 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: Did he say your name for years? Like he does? 528 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: And he's one of those blokes who's living his best life. 529 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: He's traveling, oh gosh, covering his favorite sporte be hard. 530 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 11: Though, traveling twenty four to seven. You'd have to think 531 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 11: I didn't. 532 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: I've seen you on Instagram. He's having a good time. 533 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: He's an economy I think he's right. 534 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 11: He's in business. Yeah, flying to all the best places 535 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 11: in the world. 536 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 12: That's true. 537 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: All right, fantastic. We'll catch up with you again on Friday. 538 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 11: Yes, Friday, fingers crossed for some beginns for the Eagles 539 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 11: and Sockers. 540 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Anoran when you get there in a couple 541 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: of days, have a good weekend. 542 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 543 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 12: I will more Crazy, more Lisa, more podcasts. 544 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: So, as we know, getting dressed in the half dark 545 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: can be fraught with broughtness. 546 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: It can be dangerous, as. 547 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: Ali Valentine discovered this morning. 548 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: I just coming to work, always well healed, is allis 549 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: reading today? She has a lovely pair of boots on. 550 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: They two lovely pairs of boots on. 551 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: They are the same color. Yes, they're exactly the same color. 552 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: But then when you look closely, they have different colored 553 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: heels and one has a little peep toe. 554 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: Like a rat tuta hole in it or something. 555 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: No, Ali, I'll smack him for you. She didn't realize 556 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: until she was in the car on the way. Totally understand. 557 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: I have done that. I've worn two uh black boots, 558 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: but different boots, but really stupid. One was slightly higher 559 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: than the other side. Why I didn't notice, I was 560 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: walking with a limp. 561 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 562 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 3: Would have noticed by the time through the day. 563 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I noticed. 564 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: What a classic. 565 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: Now you have a shoester as well. 566 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: Do have a shoe story. 567 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: It was funny because when I got to work and 568 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: you went, you have to go and check out Ali's shoes. 569 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: The first thing to do. I would have to a 570 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: dinner party of us on the weekend. In fact, dinner 571 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: at a restaurant we went high Brow for my brother 572 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: in law's birthday. 573 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: So we went fine dining at gi Arma. 574 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: Crown, which he was getting married in the south of 575 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: France at the exact same time. Yeah, the chicken lady. 576 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 3: We thought we'd toast him with some chicken lady. 577 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: Is the Ingham, the heiress of Ingham? 578 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: Jake's right, Yeah, yeah, they've done well. 579 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: So so we go to dinner and I sit down 580 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: dinner and the rest of the people who are coming 581 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: to the birthday dinner were there, and we were sort 582 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: of chatting through the night. Someone said something about and 583 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: my brother in law's shoe and I'll call him, I'll 584 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: make up a name, call him Leah. So apparently he said, oh, 585 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: something happened. It was an incident on the way into 586 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: the restaurant. Incident and yeah, Cranny got a park a 587 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: fair way and then walk in. Yes, so as he 588 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: walked in, apparently he got a shoe. He had a 589 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: shoe blowout, a blowout. I've only heard a blowout with thongs. 590 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: This was his shoe that blew out and show. So 591 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: I said, so, what have you got a bit of 592 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: a flappy thing going on with your sole or something. No, 593 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: it pretty much exploded the whole shoe fell apart as 594 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: he was walking in, and I went, how does that happen? 595 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: He said, well, they're old, fairly old pair of shoes. 596 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: You wearying amount of fun obviously, So there, so I reckon. 597 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: He spent most of the main course and definitely all 598 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: of dessert trying to work out his escape to get out. 599 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: Of the fancy restaurant. No gaffer tape, no. 600 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: Gaffe tape, ready to go. So he got up and 601 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: his planned and I said, what's his plan? 602 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 5: Mate? 603 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 3: We're all giggling at him. What's he planned to get 604 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 3: out on your birthday dinner? 605 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: And he goes, okay, I'm going to take a step 606 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: with a good shoe, and then I'm going to slide 607 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: the next one of criss and do it all the 608 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: way to the car park, which. 609 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: Is because if he lifts his foot, the shoe is 610 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: going to fall off. 611 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 3: His history. 612 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: And as he's as he's walking out, and he's down 613 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the side, and he's looking a bit like the Hunchback 614 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: of Notre Dame as he's walking through the restaurant, and 615 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: a woman at the table next to us notices and 616 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: says something to a friend, and the friend goes, what 617 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: you mean like the sole. So he became a talking 618 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: point in the restaurant. As we get to the front door. Unfortunately, 619 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the pressure on the good shoe was so great that 620 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: one blew out as well. 621 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: Oh how old were these shoes? 622 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: Sixteen years? 623 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm not sure one needed new shoes for his birthdays. 624 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: So funny to watch him and he just gave up 625 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: and he handed my sister in law of the shoes. 626 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: So he's on his socks. 627 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, Fortunately he was wearing Brighte Braham. This is 628 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: a gem at the reception area. As we're walking out 629 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: the front desk right, so you had these with these 630 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: little orange bits on the end of his toes. 631 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: Oh, so he planned and we were laughing so hard. 632 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: It was hilarious. 633 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: He's trying to get us to gather around like we're 634 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: in a group, so no one could see. So we 635 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: walked through the foyer and I said, may you look 636 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: about it an each shelder than when you walked in. 637 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: It's because I am I lost my lifts. 638 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: So as he walked out, we were trying to cover 639 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: him and then we had to go another way and 640 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: we'd get a text message saying it took us a 641 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: bit longer to get to the car. Not only was 642 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: he wearing his socks, but he wasn't allowed across the 643 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: Crown gaming floor because he was told by security, you 644 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: can't come through the casino with no shoes on. Oh 645 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: my god, it's to go the long way down, past 646 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: the food court and all the way around. Just the 647 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: most hilarious, poor bugger on birthday, and you already should 648 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: have gotten a pair of shoes. 649 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: We might call and get but you the double blowout. 650 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: I've seen worse than the shoes. At least he had 651 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 2: socks on. 652 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: We've had socks on, and now I've brightened colored, which 653 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: made it even fail out there sure report. 654 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: On ninety six a FM. 655 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: Well, the Grammys has introduced rules on AI recordings. Only 656 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: human creators will be eligible for a Grammy, with the 657 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 4: Academy adding any work that contains no human authorship is 658 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: not eligible in any category. 659 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: Thank goodness for that? Can that be a given for 660 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: for everything? 661 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: Mind you, it is starting to take over. 662 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 4: Work that features AI is still eligible for a Grammy 663 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: as long as the human authorship component of the work 664 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: is meaningful. The new Grammy rule was announced shortly after 665 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: Paul McCartney announced he was working on a new Beatles 666 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: tune that uses Ai to quote unquote extra cate the 667 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: late John Lennon's vocal. That song will be released later 668 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: this year. Whether it's up for a Grammy or not, 669 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Because there is still the human authorship component. 670 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 4: It is confusing. Toy Story fans need not fear. Woody 671 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: and Buzz light Year will reunite for Toy Story. 672 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: Five, Infinity and Beyond. 673 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: Yes, they weren't kidding, given how the characters said farewell 674 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: to one another at the end of Toy Story four. 675 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 4: There was speculation the sequel would be a spin off, 676 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 4: focusing more on other characters, or perhaps even introducing new toys, 677 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 4: but Pixar's creative chief has made it clear Toy Story 678 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: five will very much be a movie about Woody and Buzz, 679 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: just like all four of its predecessors. 680 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: You are a child's plain thing. You are a sad, 681 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: strange little man. 682 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: Ninety year old Quincy Jones He's ninety, suffered a medical 683 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: emergency over the weekend. The legendary record producer was rushed 684 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: to hospital after having a bad reaction to something he ate. 685 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: He's okay, though he has since been released and another 686 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: I kinnegated his actor as joining the cast of Stranger Things. 687 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: Terminator star Linda Hamilton is on board for season five. 688 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: Speaking of Terminator, I watched the Arnold Schwarzenegger three part 689 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: doco the other week. 690 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: I think it's on I think it's on Netflix. It 691 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: wasn't bad. It was Okay. He's had a fascinating life, 692 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: hasn't he. So it's in three parts. 693 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: The first part tells the bodybuilding years, the second part 694 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: the acting years, and the third part the housekeeper. No, 695 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: the housekeeper does come into political political years. 696 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: Okay, the governor governor, Yeah, interesting. 697 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: And he sort of sees the political stuff as being 698 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: the most you know, the most meaningful, the most rewarding time. 699 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: Because of course I think he would love to have 700 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: run for president, but he wasn't allowed. 701 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, born elsewhere. 702 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's amazing. And he was a huge ego 703 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: when he was in the Huge, lifting huge. 704 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: But he's an interesting cat seventy five. 705 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, that's bizarre, isn't it crazy? 706 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: And Lisaz says, am