1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, we know that Charles Dalwin University 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: has launched the CDU Tafe. It's a dedicated tafe area 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: focusing on future growth and job opportunities in the Northern 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Territory and the more focused and streamlined structure well, it's 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: taken over from CDU's previous vocational education and training model, 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: which is the VET model. Now joining me on the 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: line to tell us more about the new tafe area 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: is CDU Tafe pro Vice Chancellor and Chief Executive Michael Hamilton. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Michael. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie. On this wet, wild, windy, wet season. 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: Days, it's pretty crazy out there, there is no doubt 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: about it. Michael, tell us a little bit more about 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: how this new tafe is going to operate. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, it's a very exciting time, not just for CDU, 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: but I think for Northern Territory really because we've established 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: ourselves in a way that we can service industry and 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: communities and students in a much more agile way and 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: very relevant and flexible to the individual needs of communities 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: and different areas around the Northern Territory. Because we are 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: the University of the Territory and look in recent years 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: we had contracted somewhat back to the urban environment, and 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: the methodology and the model that we were working within 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: in a very complex university system did sort of hamper 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: our agility in the marketplace. So we feel that the 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: new structure and the new CDU tape itself will service 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: industry so much better. 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: And so what makes it different to the previous. 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: Model, Well, I guess the biggest thing is that, as 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: I already mentioned, universities are quite complex in the way 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: that they're structured and the way that they go about 31 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: their business, and that's largely due to the self certifying 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: university higher education sector. And whilst you know that's to 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: ensure the integrity with the products that we offer in 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: our higher education portion of the business and with vocational 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: education nested within it, was also subject to the same 36 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: protocols and approval processes, which is often quite lengthy and complex. 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: And it's not that the new system will compromise integrity 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: in any way of our better offerings. It's just that 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: we don't need all of those checks because the vocational 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: sector is regulated in a much different way, and so 41 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: by having it as a dedicated portfolio with its own 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: specialized vocational systems. We're able to respond much quicker and 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: be more flexible to the requirements of industry. 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: And is the new model. 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I know that it's been mentioned that the new model 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: is going to assist those living in remote and regional 47 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: areas a little bit better. 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: How's it going to do that? 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: Look, we've got to focus on reinvestment outside of Darwin 50 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: in particular. And even so, we've got as part of 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: the plan and part of the Tape model is to 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: install in places like Tenant Creek, nullam Boy and Alice 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: Springs certain functions and roles that have the ability to 54 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: you know, they're entrenched in the community that they understand 55 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: what's going on. They're part of the very fabric of 56 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: those communities, and so those people will have the authority 57 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: to provide a level of service in those areas and 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: respond as I said already because it's to the needs 59 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: of the community. 60 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: And Michael, is there going to be new courses or 61 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: different kinds of courses for students that are wanting to study? 62 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean we're already bringing several new courses 63 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: onto scope at the moment in cybersecurity, and there's some 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: it ones, but we're often I mean, we've looked to 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: the marketplace to develop our training profile. So we take 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: feedback and we work with nt government on their priority 67 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: skills list to ensure that what we offer industry and 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: the community is relevant and it's up to date and 69 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: it's meeting the needs of the workforce and for industry 70 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: across the region. So it's ever evolving. But what the 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: new structure and CDU tape will provide is that we 72 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: can do that so much quicker. We can respond very 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: fat yeah. Right, So if there's an immediate need, we 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: can put together a short skill set or a short 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: course if you like, very promptly under the new CDU 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: tape structure. Yeah. 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: And so with some you know, I know that there 78 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: had been a federal government free Taste package or some 79 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: announcements in that space. Are there going to be some 80 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: of the courses that you'll be delivering that do fall 81 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: under that federal government free tape package. 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: Well, the uptakes from territoriums for free tape has been outstanding. 83 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: We're into week six of the free tape initiatives and 84 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: if already oversubscribed. So we've we've we've had thousands of 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: expressions of interest to to take enrollments in specified priority 86 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: courses and we will we will enroll those students under 87 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: the free tape methodology. But yeah, I mean it's just 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: been outstanding response. 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Thing is, yeah, on top of free tape, the actual 91 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: uptake of apprenticeships has been spectacular, which is which is 92 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: really heartening to see that industry are investing in our 93 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: own to bring more people into the into the work 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: environment and into those trades that we say desperately need. 95 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: I reckon, that is fantastic to hear, because you know, 96 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't that. One of the things that you know 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: that COVID kind of showed us is that is that 98 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: we do need to grow our own and we do 99 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: need to invest in our young people or our mature 100 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: age students as well if they're wanting to study. 101 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: But we do need to grow our own. 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. And look, there was worries, I guess, 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: you know, because federal sponsorship and incentives for employers to 104 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: engage apprentices actually reduced over the last twelve months, and 105 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: we thought that might impact but in fact it's gone 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: the other way. And I think just by the fact 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: that we had the pandemic and it did alter the 108 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: way people come and go from the Northern Territory. I 109 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 3: think they've just thought, you know what, let's just invest local, 110 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: and I think that is fantastic. 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that, you know, do you think that 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: some of these changes that are being made, and by 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: the offering of different courses and even the you know, 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the free Tafe courses and that kind of thing, do 115 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: you think that it helps us to keep more of 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: our of our school leavers here in the Northern Territory 117 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: as well. 118 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: Look, I guess it's too early to tell, but you know, 119 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: just by the very nature an apprenticeship goes for four years, 120 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: and I think that's only got to be a positive 121 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: thing for the retention of skilled workers in the territory. 122 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: And we you know, we're we're quite open to looking 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: at other options as well to attract people to the 124 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: terror But how good is it to invest in our 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: own just to keep our own it's much more stable, 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: and you know, they're quite familiar with the territory and 127 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: the environment that they've lived in. I think investment in 128 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: locals is great. 129 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 130 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Now, have the facilities changed at all with the launch 131 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: of the new tape. 132 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: Look, it's business as usual. So our campuses are in 133 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: terms of infrastructure at the moment, are unchanged and it's 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: business as usual for existing students. I guess the difference 135 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: in the future will be our ability to be more 136 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: mobile and to provide a good level of service to 137 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: people that don't live in the urban environment, whether that's 138 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: regional or remote, and so that's where we're going to 139 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: concentrate our efforts in servicing those. 140 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Regions and enrollments, as you said, from the get go, 141 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: they're looking good. 142 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so as that last week, because it's just changes 143 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: so much at this time in the year, day by day, 144 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: you know, just in the tasteboard file there, we've got 145 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: almost three and a half thousand enrollments, which is about 146 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: fifty percent up on the same time last year where 147 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: we had two thy four hundred. So it's up by 148 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: eleven hundred and we're only a week out of the year. 149 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: Wonderful stuff, Absolutely wonderful stuff. Well, pro Vice Chancellor and 150 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Chief Executive at CDU TAFE, Michael Hamilton, I really appreciate 151 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks so much for having. 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: A chat with us. 153 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: Yes, thanks for your time. 154 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: Thank you