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Speaker 1: The vision last night on a Current Affair, I think

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Speaker 1: you'd have to say was pretty horrifying to see. However,

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Speaker 1: it seems as though it's just another day in Alice.

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Speaker 1: Last night, get another report, this time of two men

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Speaker 1: being set upon by between ten to fifteen youths. Now

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Speaker 1: joining us on the line is Darren, the owner of

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Speaker 1: Wicked Needs and also the man who set up the

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Speaker 1: page action for Alice. Good morning, Darren, Katie, how are

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Speaker 1: you not too bad? Mate? You know, what were your

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Speaker 1: thoughts watching a Current Affair last night? I guess it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's your life at the moment, that's our life.

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Speaker 2: That's a slippet of Alice Springs life. It was cut

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Speaker 2: down a fair bit. There was a hell of a

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Speaker 2: lot more that could have been shown. Of course, the

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Speaker 2: go for a certain amount of time. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 2: what we're living in.

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Speaker 1: Was it emotional for you guys actually seeing it all there? Really?

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Speaker 1: You know, in a package like that for the rest

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Speaker 2: See, Okatie, I've got that many messages from last night

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Speaker 2: and this morning, and then people got I ran in today.

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Speaker 2: They sat there and they were crying. Local people were

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Speaker 2: sitting there and they were crying because they've had enough.

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Speaker 2: They know, they can't believe our town has got to

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Speaker 2: this stage. Ah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know, mate, I watched it last night

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Speaker 1: and I felt really sad for you guys because I

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Speaker 1: thought to myself, I lived there, you know, eighteen years

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Speaker 1: ago I met my husband in Alice Springs. It's a

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Speaker 1: place that I hold very dear to my heart. And

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Speaker 1: it was really sad to see it in that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very sad, and we've been talking about this

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Speaker 2: for a long long time. It's sad, and we live

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Speaker 2: in fear. You have the current Fair crew. They couldn't believe.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't believe it. They couldn't believe the age of

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Speaker 2: the kids walking the street. They actually asked me, what

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Speaker 2: are those little kids there? I said, don't want to

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Speaker 2: create the crime and do the damage, you know, And

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Speaker 2: I keep saying it. This government is letting these youth down.

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Speaker 2: They're not safe, and in turn, the community is not safe.

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Speaker 2: So you're letting you're letting everyone down, guys. You know,

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Speaker 2: I said on your show the other week, tell Michael

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Speaker 2: Gonna to come down and I'll take him around. Well

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Speaker 2: he could have come, He could have come and saw

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Speaker 2: all that and a hell of a lot more that's

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Speaker 2: not shown until you're there. I haven't been in a

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Speaker 2: CVD like walking around for a fair while because I

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Speaker 2: don't feel safe. And I was there and I was

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Speaker 2: just absolutely gobsmacked of what goes on. It's even worse

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Speaker 2: than what I thought it was. It is unbelievable. So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I say it again, buddy, come down and

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Speaker 2: walk the street. Don't tell him when you're come a mate,

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Speaker 2: come down, Darren.

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Speaker 1: I understand that last night we've heard from the Alice

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Speaker 1: Watch commander that last night there was another incident, this

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Speaker 1: time two blokes. As I understand, it's set upon by

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Speaker 1: up to fifteen youths.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they sent me that message about eleven o'clock last

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Speaker 2: want them guys. Yeah, Look, it just doesn't stop. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't stop. There was another couple of vehicles on the

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Speaker 2: weekend that were burned out. You know, they're burning vehicles

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Speaker 2: out in the CBD in Cole's car park. Like this

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Speaker 2: has got to stop.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, you know, honestly, if like I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've been telling us about it for so long. We've

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Speaker 1: been speaking to so many people in Alice Springs about

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Speaker 1: the concerns that you guys have got. But the Chief

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Speaker 1: Minister said yesterday on the show that they've got additional

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Speaker 1: resources that are going to be sent to Alice Springs

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Speaker 1: police resources here we go twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Look I do.

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Speaker 1: But I was going to ask you, well you do.

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Speaker 2: They're not even making up the numbers of the police

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Speaker 2: that have left our springs, the police that are out

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Speaker 2: on stress leaves here, they're not even touching the sides

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Speaker 2: and it's all just spinmates, bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that was going to be my question. You know,

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Speaker 1: does any of that discussion quell the concerns of the

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Speaker 1: people living in Alice Springs When you hear the government

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Speaker 1: talk about things like this ring Leader legislation, does it

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Speaker 1: give you any hope or does it actually make you think,

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Speaker 1: oh no, here we go, same thing again.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just bullshit. No, I can tell you now.

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Speaker 2: The community down here have just lost all faith. They've

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Speaker 2: lost all faith. We're on our own, okay, Yeah, our

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Speaker 2: town is small, it's not. It's not a huge town.

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Speaker 2: We've got a hell of a lot of police here.

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Speaker 2: You know, word gets around, there's not they're not they're

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Speaker 2: not making up numbers. They're not increasing the numbers, they're

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Speaker 2: not even making the numbers up. The people there. It's

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Speaker 2: just all bullshit. It seriously is, and we're sick of it.

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Speaker 2: I listened to I listened to you your whole thing

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Speaker 2: is your whole interview with Michael Gunny yesterday and the

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Speaker 2: worst thing he said yesterday was Shaane Powler was killed.

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Speaker 2: Shane Paler lost his life as a victim of this

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Speaker 2: unrelenting crime. He goes he was in the wrong place

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Speaker 2: at the wrong time. What a disgusting, despicable comment for

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Speaker 2: the leader of the Northern Territory by any human being

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Speaker 2: to say that that guy looked was looking with a

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Speaker 2: care for people. He was on his way home from work.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time,

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Speaker 2: check minister. He was doing his job and he was

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Speaker 2: going home to his mother and his family. Of this

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Speaker 2: crime cost that guy his life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh mate, I you know, I really hope that

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Speaker 1: the fact that this is on a national stage now,

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Speaker 1: you know, it makes the government sit up and listen.

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Speaker 2: They have to.

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Speaker 1: We spoke to the Minister for Health and Tourism, Natasha

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Speaker 1: Files a few minutes ago. She hasn't watched a current

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Speaker 1: affair yet.

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Speaker 2: I've urged her she's seriously watching.

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Speaker 1: I've urged her and the other ministers to sit down

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Speaker 1: and watch it so that they can get a really

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Speaker 1: clear view of what's going on. I also reckon they

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Speaker 1: all need to come down and, like you said, not

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Speaker 1: tell anybody that they're going to be there, but go

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Speaker 1: for a walk around town and have a look for themselves.

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Speaker 2: Right. They won't walk around town the police. The police.

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Speaker 2: There's a mobile unit in the mall. They've doubled the

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Speaker 2: numbers there. They've got four members of a night and

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Speaker 2: you know what, they've got four members of a night,

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Speaker 2: so there's two at the van and two can walk around.

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Speaker 2: They don't like to walk around, you know why, because

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Speaker 2: the police say it's too dangerous. It's too dangerous. A

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Speaker 2: police officer saying that.

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Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's it's a very very sad state of affairs, Darren.

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Speaker 1: I'm really sorry mate, I'm going to have to wrap

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Speaker 1: it up because we've got to speak. We've we've got

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Speaker 1: a serious incident that's happened here in Darwin as well,

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Speaker 1: with a three year old being sexually assaulted. So we

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Speaker 1: are going to be speaking about that as well.

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Speaker 2: There's been one covered covered up down here as well.

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Speaker 2: Gee wiz, it's going to come out in the media

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Speaker 2: very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Darren, thank you very much for your time today. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you again very soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks mate,