1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Crazy and LEAs. It's the story behind the album. 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the first thing that set Thriller apart, 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: wasn't it the Vincent Price Medge? 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: Definitely. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: Thriller is the sixth studio album by Michael Jackson, released 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: on November twenty nine, so just a a couple of 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: days ago, back in nineteen eighty two, by Epic Records. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: It was produced by Quincy Jones, who'd previously worked with 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Jackson on his nineteen seventy nine album Off the Wall. 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: When you were in the studio doing it, were there 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: any moments where you thought, here, since you have any 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: idea what impact that album was going to have. 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't think of it like that. I think about 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: what touches me. You know. I've never in my life 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: ever done music for money or fame, never and never 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: will because God walks out of the room now and 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: it's not secret anymore, and it is sacred, you know, 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: because to me, melody is God's voice. Is clothed by lyrics, 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: but melody is God's voice. That's the power. 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: But I always wonder, so when you did the playback 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: for Billy Jean, or for any of the songs on 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: there was there a moment where you said to yourself, 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: we've done something different special. 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: No, but that was the whole plan in the beginning. Man, 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: when you go through eight hundred songs to get nine, 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: that's not casual. You know, I'm actually aiming for. 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: It's so cool? Is a Quincy the que love him. 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 5: We often talk about entertainment, and especially we talked about 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 5: movies and stuff and someone missed out on a role 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 5: and whatever. I found that. We found that stuff quite fascinating. 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 5: It happens with songs on albums as well. He's Quincy 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: Giants talking to David Letterman. 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 6: When you get down to the final cut, do you 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 6: ever take a song off and replace it with another 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 6: one and then save that song and then later give 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 6: it to somebody else and it does well. 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: That's happened on my thriller. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 5: We had four songs on there and had all the songs. 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Finish, took four off and replaced it with pyt and 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: beat it and uh, human nature. 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: What became of the four he took off? Some other 42 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: people require it. And what happened was it was it 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: was okay. You know, it wasn't so you knew what 44 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: you were doing, and we just got lucky. 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: No no, no, no no no. 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: May I think those hits, they were all hit singles. 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be drawn on who he gave it to him? 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 5: What I was, that's right, obviously El de Barge or 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 5: someone maybe. 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: Thriller spent a record thirty seven non consecutive weeks at 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: number one on Billboard. Seven singles were released, The Girl 52 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: is Mine, Billy Jean, Beat It, Want to Be, Starting 53 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: Something two, Quincy just mentioned Human Nature and PYT Pretty 54 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: Young Thing, and of course Thriller. They all reached the 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: top ten, with beat It and Billy Jean reaching number one. 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: Following Jackson's performance of Billy Jean in the Motown twenty 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: five television special where he debuted his signature Moonwalk Dance, 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: the album began selling one million copies per week. And 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: after he debuted that said signature moonwalk dance, you know who. 60 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: Called him someone pretty famous, Fred Asta Unreal. 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 7: The next day after the show, when Fred Astaire car 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 7: in my house, he said, if I saw the show 63 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 7: last night, I taped it, I wastted it twice this morning, 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 7: and he said, you were incredible. You're a hell of 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 7: a mover and you really put them on there. He said, 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 7: and I said, God, thank you, so wonderful for you 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 7: to say it, because I think you're the best. And 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 7: that was my real reward because I think he's brilliant. 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: Imagine having as a d having fred A Stair ring you, 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: fred A. 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: Staire who Dad's Wow heat wave things like that, called 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: you to tell you you went or right with your moves. 73 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Fred Astaire. 74 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: If you google fred to Stare dancing in nineteen seventy one, 75 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 5: ninety seventy I think was the Oscars. 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: He's still great, but it still had it. 77 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: Amazing and we talk about the actual movie they made, 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: because it wasn't just a video for Thriller was at. 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: Least no and I remember I remember watching it when 80 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: it was released and it was a. 81 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: Huge lead up the beginning. 82 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: It was a big deal. Nothing like this had ever 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: been done before. 84 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: I remember being at Eagle One nightclub the night they played, 85 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: my first time in Northbridge and just looking at people's 86 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: vi just with him mouths up into watching this incredible thing. 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 5: And he's MTV's Matt Goodman talking about how big Thriller 88 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: was at the time. 89 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 6: What a piece of work, Thriller A long time coming. 90 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 6: Michael Jackson's Thriller, the piece written by John Landis, the director, 91 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 6: and also by Michael Jackson. Now John Landis, she probably 92 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 6: remembers the guy who directed things like Animal House, who 93 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 6: was also responsible for An American Werewolf in London. Landis, 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 6: Michael and George Fawlsey Junior produced the short music film. 95 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 6: It's being shown in selected movie theaters. It was shown 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: last week so that it'll be eligible for this year's 97 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 6: Academy Awards. Hey, we might have an Academy Award winner 98 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 6: on our show. The makeup effects which were substantial. I've 99 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 6: been watching those effects just over and over. The makeup 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 6: effects created by Rick Baker. He was the guy who 101 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 6: won on Oscar for an American Werewolf. Choreography designed by 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 6: Michael Jackson and Michael Peters, the Tony Award winning choreographer 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 6: of dream Girls. Michael Peters also the guy who did 104 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: the dance sequences for Beat It, Michael Jackson's Beat It. 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 6: The only place on TV you can see Thriller is 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 6: here on MTV, and we are proud of it. It 107 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 6: is more than just a video with the short film 108 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: and quite a piece of our Michael Jackson and John Landers. 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 6: We're real happy to have it here. 110 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: Well, I loved American Werewolf in London and the Landers 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: connection was clear, wasn't it? 112 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: Scrimp and Bell? 113 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: His face in American Rewolf deteriorated throughout the movie. 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: It was very similar. 115 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: Thriller remains the best selling album of all time, having 116 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: sold an estimated seventy million copies worldwide, won a record 117 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: breaking eight Grammy Awards the nineteen eighty four Grammy Awards, 118 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: including Album of the Year, Best Pop Vocal Performance, Beat. 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: It won two Grammys for Record of the Year and 120 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: Best Rock Vocal Performance, and Billy Jean won two Grammys 121 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: for Best R and B Vocal Performance. He touched all 122 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: the categories. Take that bet. Best Rhythm and Blues Song 123 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: was the other one. Thriller is frequently included in lists 124 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: of the greatest albums of all time. In two thousand 125 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: and eight, it was inducted into the Grammy Hall of 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: Fame and the Library of Congress in the US additor 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: to the National Recording Registry of Culturally, historically or Aesthetically 128 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Significant Recordings. And this is my call again talking about 129 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: how talking about the continued success of Thriller. 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 8: Then till I get a platinum album. It's never been 131 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 8: taken lately on my VF. I'm always honored and it's 132 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 8: great thanks. You know, I'm very happy that the public 133 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 8: enjoy what I do and I'll continue to put my 134 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 8: heart into my work. 135 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: Really did go to the stratosphere, didn't it, Because off 136 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 5: the what was a big album for him? 137 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: It was next level. 138 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: But as you know, as we just touched on then, 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: it was so much bigger than just a Hesma new album. 140 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: It was a moment and those of us that do 141 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: remember watching that Thriller, it was a bit like when 142 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: Live Aid was on. 143 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the time in the world, point in 144 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 5: time when there was no doubt he was the biggest 145 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 5: star in music on the planet. 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: Was that absolutely. 147 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: And the freaky thing that Quincy said earlier, that bit 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 5: we heard where he said, you know, p y t 149 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 5: in Human Nature and beat It were not originally on 150 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: the album. 151 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Replaced imagine beat It being on the album. 152 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: Credible. Well, let's get beaten. The story behind the album. 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: Michael Jackson Thriller