1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Because the latest rental report is in for Capital Cities, 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: which identified the cheapest rents within twenty kilometers of Darwin, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: CBD and Molden and Gray top the list for the 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: cheapest median house rents, while Bakewell and Leanya held the 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: lead for units. Now joining me to talk us through 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: these numbers is Core Logics Research director Tim Lawless. Good 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: morning to you, Tim, Let's try that again. Good morning 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: to you, Tim. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Hope you got me, Now I've got you. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. Tim Fursley, 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: what does the latest rental report show for Darwin, Well. 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: It is still an extraordinarily tight rental market. We're seeing 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: vacancy rates across the region at about one point one percent. 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: That's actually lower than what it was last year. And 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: of course with vacancy rates are slow, it means there's 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: still quite a bit of upwards pressure on rents. But 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: we are starting to see rental growth slowing down a 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: little bit and that's probably more reflective of this affordability 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: constraints starting to get in the way of further rent hikes. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: As rengers yet really really struggled to come up with 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: that type of money is we when you look at. 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: That one point one percent with your vacancy rights, how 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: does that compared to other states and terror trace? 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: It's pretty similar. Darwin doesn't really stand out with an 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: extraordinarily low vacancy rate, at least relative to the other cities. 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: In fact, you can go to some markets like Perish 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: has got a vacancy rate of point six percent, Adelaide 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: that dot a point five percent. The major city like 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: Sydney and Melbourne they're around the one percent mark. Brisbanes 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: have a bit over one percent. So wherever you look, 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: rental markets are extremely tight. 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: And then when you look at the median house and 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: unit rents, how are we looking in the terror tray. 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Well, we've got a median house rents across across Darwine 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: of six hundred and seventy five dollars a week. Units 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: at about five hundred and nineteen dollars a week in 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: terms of where they were, say a year ago, we've 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: seen house rents have increased by fifteen dollars a week 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: over the past year. Unit rent to rising faster, up 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: twenty dollars a week. So what that might seem a 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: fairly small increment on weekly numbers, you know, you put 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: it into monthly terms or annual terms, and renters, especially 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: with the fact that we've seen rent rising rapidly for 44 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: a few years now, renters are likely to be really 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: doing it quite tough. 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Well, especially when you look at the cost of living 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: across the board as well. I guess all of those 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: little increases they add up. 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: That's right, And the rental rental upswing is happening against 50 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: the backdrop of cost of living crisis, so things like 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: you can't really cut back, you're expending on things like 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: fuel or electricity, utilities, insurance, all those prices are going 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: up as well. I think households more broadly as well 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: as mortgage holders as well. Mortgage holders are paying a 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: lot more in their mortgage or payments. So yeah, it's 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: unfortunately a bit of a perfect storm at the moment. 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: And tim is that what's causing the upwoods trend When 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: you talk about you know, the rental prices. 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's really about supply and demand for rental markets. 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: There's more demand than what there is rental supply, and 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: of course with vacancy rates reflecting that down around one percent, 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: it does mean that unfortunately, it's a landlord's market in 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: most cases, which is why we're seeing rents rising. So 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: the best way to solve this is either improve a 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: supply situation bring bring more rental housing in, or reduce 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: the demand situation, which is a lot harder. That really 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: means pulling the lever back hard on migration. 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and both of those are difficult things to do, 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: particularly in a place like the Northern Territory where you 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: know you need a land release, you need to then 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: get get those lots moving. But then even when you 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: look at at the you know, bringing over workers from overseas, 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: it's something that we actually need to fill different job 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: vacancies in the end as well. 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: That is so true. And the other challenge with supply 76 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: is it costs a lot to build a residential property. Now, 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: construction costs leave me blowing up. Even though they're not 78 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: growing as much anymore, they're not going backwards. So I 79 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: thinks for builders the struggle really is now delivering some 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: of the market with a decent profit margin associated with us. 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Hey, tim tell us which suburbs had the cheapest rents 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: for houses in close proximity to Darwin City Center. 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we looked at within twenty kilometers of the 84 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: city center, so it's all relative. I suppose in Darwin 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: that's that's still some distance, but in Sydney it's relatively close. 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: But if you go to somewhere like Molburne five hundred 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: and forty dollars to rent, there's weekly numbers great at 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: about five hundred and fifty driver five hundred and sixty 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: four a week. Woods are off five hundred and eighty 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: seven a week bake Well five ninety one. So generly 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: houses are more expensive to rent than apartments for obvious reasons, 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: but then the unit sector a little bit more affordable. 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: But rents are actually rising faster across the unit sector, 94 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: probably because we're seeing more demand deflected towards that sector 95 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: of the market because it is cheaper. So you're looking 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: for the cheapest units to rent within twenty k's of 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: when it's bake Well four hundred and fifty seven dollars 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: a week, But even some markets close to the coast, 99 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: like Coconut Growth one hundred and seventy five dollars in 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,239 Speaker 2: the top five there as well. 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: Now, what are the key takeaways for renters? You know, 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: what should they be looking for? 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: I guess, well, it is like like I said, it's 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: really hard for rented. It is a landlord's market with 105 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: vacancy rates this low. So I think the most important 106 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: thing is is finding the accommodation for starters, everybody needs 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: a roof over their heads. But once you do find rent, 108 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: it's quite hard to negotiate. Say, if you're looking at 109 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: the ad asking rent when vacancy rates are high, you 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: can potentially get away with a bit of wiggle room 111 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: and get a lower rental rate, especially if you come 112 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 2: up with good terms like a long lease or something 113 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: like that, if you have the references. So I think 114 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: for rents now it's find the rental property as pay 115 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: what they're asking and probably lock into a medium term 116 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: lease or meetiums to long term lead if you can. 117 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Considering there's no real signs of rental supply starting to. 118 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Rise, tim is it? You know it is now the 119 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: time if you're an investor and if you've got that 120 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: money to you know, to get in there and buy 121 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: yourself an investment property. Is at the time to do it. Well. 122 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: Darwin's actually looking pretty solid for investment opportunities. It's got 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: the highest gross yield of any capital city. Substantially hired, 124 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: and say a market like Sydney, where you've got a 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: gross yield of about three percent, Darwin's coming in at 126 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: nearly seven percent gross yield, so chances are you might 127 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: even be finding a cash flow positive property in Darwin, 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: so it's paying itself off. And we're also seeing values 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: rising as well, not really swiftly in Darwin like they 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: are in some of the other markets, but up one 131 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: point three percent over the past three months is still 132 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: a pretty decent clip and. 133 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: Growth well, Tim Lawless, I always appreciate our chats. It's 134 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: always insightful, mate. Thank you so much for having a 135 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: chat with me this morning. 136 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you you two. 137 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah,