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Speaker 1: This is the Will and Woody Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Helen Flanagan, star of Coronation Street, reveals that she hasn't

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Speaker 2: shared a bed with her fiance, Scott Sinclair for seven

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Speaker 2: years because she co sleeps with their three kids. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to forget everything I just told you except

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Speaker 2: for the words co sleeping.

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Speaker 1: Okay, done, thank you. That's a jump, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I can go into what Scottie Sinclair I don't want

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Speaker 2: to know. I don't think anyone want to. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone does.

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Speaker 1: I mean the seven years things pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: Let's just talk about of all the infinite issues and

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Speaker 2: contravening advice around parenting, this is the crown jewel. This

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Speaker 2: is so polarizing co sleeping that I found myself having

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Speaker 2: an argument with my partner sem without even realizing I

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Speaker 2: was having an argument, Like the instinctive response I had

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Speaker 2: to the idea of our kids sleeping next to us

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Speaker 2: in a co sleeper, so not in the bed in

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Speaker 2: a co sleeper, which is like a bassinette style thing,

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Speaker 2: versus the kids sleeping in another room in a cot

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Speaker 2: for example. Or you wouldn't put him in a cot

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Speaker 2: in it immediately put him in a basinet.

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Speaker 4: So both ways, basinette is where they sleep, but we're

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Speaker 4: either saying bassin it in the bedroom or bassinet in

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Speaker 4: their own bedroom.

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Speaker 2: Potentially. The point is there's a million different ways to

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Speaker 2: skin the cat. But ge whizz do people or sleep

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Speaker 2: the child? But g whizz do people get up in

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Speaker 2: arms about it? And I didn't even realize that I

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Speaker 2: was I was going to get up in arms about

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Speaker 2: it until Sem and I were having this argument. I

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Speaker 2: was like, look, the kid's going to sleep in a

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Speaker 2: different room and we're going to leave it there because

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Speaker 2: you and I both need to sleep and the kid's

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Speaker 2: going to have to learn some level of independence by crying. Sure, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: that was that was the logic. That was the logic

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Speaker 2: because I was like, that's the way it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And then she was like, no, that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: What's the argument for having them in the bedroom with you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll get into that. So I start So

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Speaker 2: as soon as we started having a big blow up,

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Speaker 2: if we realize we're having an emotional argument and there's

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Speaker 2: no reason to and I realize I was just arguing

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Speaker 2: for the sake of arguing I was like a guttural response.

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Speaker 2: I had to it and I couldn't explain it. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, hang on, will before you enter the argument,

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Speaker 2: maybe go and do some research. So I went and

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Speaker 2: looked at up well done.

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Speaker 4: I had so hard to do. I had to decided

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Speaker 4: to put it down. When you've got your blood boiling,

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Speaker 4: I had to.

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Speaker 2: I just had to realize that I was. There was

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Speaker 2: no I had no rationale. It was just like, that

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem right to me. Right, And I remember, we

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Speaker 2: have the same arguments when we're bringing out the dog,

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Speaker 2: the arguments around how you raise something, touch something primal

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Speaker 2: within you. It's like, that's how I see the world.

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Speaker 2: That's how I'm going to bring the thing into the world.

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Speaker 1: Do you also get protective of the way that you

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Speaker 1: were brought up as well?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? So it's exactly it's attacking your integrity, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is how I was brought up. Yeah. So I

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Speaker 2: went away and I looked up online co sleeping and

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Speaker 2: I did a whole bunch of research, and there was

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Speaker 2: It was fascinating. It really was fascinating. One of the

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Speaker 2: most interesting things I found about it was that people

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Speaker 2: in lower socioeconomic communities in New York obviously live in

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Speaker 2: smaller apartments, in smaller flats, and hence the kid has

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Speaker 2: one room, which led to a massive decrease in SIDS,

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Speaker 2: which is sudden infant death syndrome.

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Speaker 1: Ah, that is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: They're not in the bed with the parents, they're sleeping

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Speaker 2: in a close sleep part, right, but the kid's not

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Speaker 2: left alone in another room and you're more aware of it.

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Speaker 1: Incredible.

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Speaker 2: So that was one of the studies I found. But

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Speaker 2: then there were always other studies arguing in the other

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Speaker 2: way about the child's independence. It was very in vogue

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Speaker 2: a little while ago to leave a kid in another

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Speaker 2: and that's how a child should be brought up.

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Speaker 1: So where if you're landed, you'd love to know, of

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Speaker 1: course I would.

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Speaker 2: I want to take some calls on this. Oh yeah, nice,

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Speaker 2: so third and one O six five?

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Speaker 1: Sorry have you to say? What did you have landed on?

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Speaker 2: I ended up talking to my psychologists about it. Wow yeah, wow, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because my parents were very much one way, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, well, I spoke to my dad about it,

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Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, he was very much one way

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Speaker 2: and I yeah, I just wanted to broaden as much

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Speaker 2: important decision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, can you dotle bit of both? Can

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Speaker 1: you go one night you're with us?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think once we figure out how the kid sleeps,

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Speaker 2: will probably just go with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, perfectly, don't change it up.

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Speaker 2: I better we can go into it with a plan.

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Speaker 2: But that's my plan for all parenting. Going with a plan,

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Speaker 2: but make the plan very flexible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So here's what I'm going to do. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do. Thir one, I six five. I

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Speaker 2: want to take some calls. I know this is very polarizing.

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Speaker 2: I know people think very hard or they believe very

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Speaker 2: firmly one way or the other in this debate. It

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Speaker 2: is an intense debate. Sure, third and one and six

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Speaker 2: five co sleeping? Oh my goodness, Yeah, let's burn in

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Speaker 2: the flames of opinion.

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Speaker 1: Woods.

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Speaker 2: They've already made. They blocked the phone lines thirty seconds ago.

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Speaker 2: We'll take them up next. It's will and what do

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Speaker 2: you hope you guys having a good drive home?

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Speaker 1: Their phone line is going to break.

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Speaker 2: Can't believe we are talking about co sleeping co sleeping

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Speaker 2: with kids. As I said before, I think of all

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Speaker 2: the contravening issues and debates that you have to have

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Speaker 2: with your partner in and around parenting. This one for

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Speaker 2: me and Sem was like stems. Yeah, it went straight

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Speaker 2: to deaf coon three and I don't know what it

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Speaker 2: just immediately dropped into that space. We both had an

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Speaker 2: instinctive guttural response to it where I felt like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the children to sleep in another room. And then I

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Speaker 2: a really informed, great chat about it. I ended up

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Speaker 2: talking to my psychologist about it. I spoke to Sim's

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Speaker 2: dad about it, who's also a psych probably didn't come

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Speaker 2: to me about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good in there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah surprising. Maybe one day I will maybe one

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Speaker 2: day we'll have that chat.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely friend.

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Speaker 2: So it is a really interesting about and I know

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Speaker 2: everybody thinks very strongly about this, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: open the phone lines because I'm interested in it. I

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Speaker 2: am interested. We have decided one way are you.

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Speaker 1: Going to reveal that I can tell you now?

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Speaker 4: Sure you don't have to because you know I don't

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Speaker 4: evenet death threats and stuff like.

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Speaker 2: As long as the security guard follows me home tonight, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you.

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Speaker 1: No one attack will come up. Please land Land.

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Speaker 2: We bought a co sleeper to have in the bedroom.

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Speaker 4: With us, oh dear.

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Speaker 2: For six months. For six months.

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Speaker 1: Terrible decision.

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, I had this chat with well,

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Speaker 2: let's let's go to Holly and I'll show you more

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Speaker 2: about in a second. Holy Holly, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 5: Hey, yes to co sleeping?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so what why did you land on co sleeping? Holly?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: And have you done it before you've experienced it?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I've only got one child, he has one and

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Speaker 5: a half.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: I'm been a single parent though, which is a bit

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Speaker 5: different for you guys. So I have been co sleeping

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Speaker 5: ever since he was born. So I just want to mention,

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Speaker 5: you know, your partner might not have the best birth

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Speaker 5: and she's gonna, you know, be in a lot of pain.

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Speaker 5: So why would she want to get out of bed

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Speaker 5: all the way down check on the child If you

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Speaker 2: In tres for her, isn't it. Yeah, she's the one

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Speaker 2: who's going to be feeding all night. And that was

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Speaker 2: part of the discussion we had, and Sam said that

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Speaker 2: very very well. She was right. She was like, look, mate,

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Speaker 2: if I'm going to be the one who's going to

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Speaker 2: be breastfeeding it, I would like to be in a

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Speaker 2: position where I can just roll over and breastfeed the child, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then put the child back in the co sleeper.

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Speaker 4: And I know you were saying you're worried about sleep

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Speaker 4: with the co sleeping arrangement, but like, surely it's a

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Speaker 4: less abrupt process. There will probably occasions where she can

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Speaker 4: just wake up, breastfeed and put the pay back and

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Speaker 4: you can keep sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not the priority here was I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying you were worried about sleep. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: didn't say I was worried about sleep, didn't you. No, No,

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Speaker 2: that'll be my service man, it's my child.

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Speaker 1: I'll be up.

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Speaker 2: I'll be ready. She's carried the child for nine months,

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Speaker 2: you know I'll be It'll be mean if I had

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Speaker 2: a burdbud feed it myself. Let's get to damny armed

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Speaker 2: when I six. But it's funny though, because that's a

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Speaker 2: big part of it. Like when I spoke to my dad,

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Speaker 2: you know, first it's a very old school way. It's

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Speaker 2: like he was like, well, look, I needed my sleep

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Speaker 2: because you know, I was at the hospital at six

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Speaker 2: am the next morning, so there's no way that I

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Speaker 2: could stand with the child in the room for all

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Speaker 2: that long. Yeah. Right, Yeah, it's like there's merit to that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, but it's it's it's all. That's why this

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Speaker 2: is such a polarizing top.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and here we are right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: it in the Caldron. Let's got a Damien here.

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Speaker 2: Damien.

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Speaker 1: You planned one way, we went the other way. Talk

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Speaker 1: us through it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So first off, big fan boys, love your work.

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Speaker 3: So my wife is our daughter, our daughter to sleep

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Speaker 3: in our room. I wanted her to sleep in her

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Speaker 3: own room. Went with that for a while. Then when

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Speaker 3: she come home and the first time she cried, she

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Speaker 3: was straight in our room. Mate. Yeah, okay, I would say, honestly,

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Speaker 3: it's an instinct thing. As as you do that cry,

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Speaker 3: you're like, I want to make about it. I want

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Speaker 3: to make sure she's happy. I want to make everything.

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Speaker 3: And two years on and she's still sleeping in our room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that day. That's so interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't it ever you leave her baby crying in

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Speaker 4: another room, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, fascinating. It's it's really like this is and on

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Speaker 2: the crying chat. This is the chat that I have

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Speaker 2: with Sim's dad. She he told me that they they

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Speaker 4: A scientist, a professor excuse me called Michael Sweet, has

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Speaker 1: The mystery of the Lockness monster has been solved. It

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Speaker 4: It seems totally random because I'm talking about science. A

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Speaker 1: It was a whales penis. It was being seen. I

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Speaker 7: By the way, it's a body of water, but I

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Speaker 1: That is like a pond, isn't it like a lake?

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Speaker 2: It's enormous, idea, How big the lot is.

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Speaker 1: Anyway? Well, one whale with a particularly large todger.

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Speaker 2: They've all got quite big penises. Whales, Okay, so enormous

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Speaker 2: like a humpback whales penis. Yeah, yeah, as a mind

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Speaker 4: Don't don't give it all away, Will, because what I

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Speaker 1: Because you can't stop laughing, and we'll see who the

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Speaker 2: Saying it's not funny. I'm just saying you're the one

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get you.

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Speaker 4: The mystery of the Lockness Monster has finally been put

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Speaker 4: Lockness Monster sightings were effectively just whale penises.

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Speaker 2: Or just a whales penis. There might have been multiple

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Speaker 4: The classic side of the lockness monster is the neck

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Speaker 2: You for a whale though, when I breached my Toddia, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: If there was a whale viewing or something, you'd give of.

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Speaker 4: I think you're a locknest monster. Have a giggle if

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Speaker 4: you found that out. Anyway, because of this story coming

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Speaker 4: I know you're gonna have to hold it.

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Speaker 2: I know I've had COVID recently.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: So these are from PG documentaries, as particular parts of

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Speaker 1: Will the test is, can you hold the water in

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Speaker 4: A slitch has opened and the males underside and the

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Speaker 1: Oh he's well done. Grab two, well done, will grab two?

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Speaker 8: Male?

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Speaker 1: Right, whales have gigantic testings. Oh it's very close. We

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Speaker 9: Can you hold for second so I can show the penis?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, we're just looking at something. Can you hold it?

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Speaker 8: God?

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Speaker 1: That is massive.

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Speaker 2: It is massive, and this is only part of it.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Oh you're a child, will throw up? Anyway? That

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Speaker 4: What was the video she did get these is that

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Speaker 2: It a dead body. In the first we grab it

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Speaker 4: This is a woman kneeling the next to a dead

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Speaker 1: Notice, by the way, that there's no bone in this penis.

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Speaker 2: It's actually probably the most amazing penis in the animal world.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 8: Joy. I know you love the penis, but we have

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Speaker 1: We haven't got to get this whale off the beach.

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Speaker 2: And you finish at the nose, then that's the same chick.

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Speaker 7: And Julie, I know you love.

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Speaker 2: When she's got the one on the Hamish player joins

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Speaker 8: What an honor to be here as the only.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to have you on the show mate. I

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Speaker 2: How often is your son the reluctant party in the activities?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, where I went? Hey, guess what I got for

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Speaker 8: He talking like cool. It's very cool because now we

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Speaker 4: And to be honest, I heard that Sunny missed a

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Speaker 8: I got him sneaking out trying to drive back to school.

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Speaker 8: You know, I did it one a because with all

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Speaker 8: I mean it was pretty it was I was like, really,

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Speaker 8: you can give. I mean, personally, who am goo advice?

445
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Speaker 8: Second of a hall?

446
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Speaker 2: No, no one, you're not even You're not even giving

447
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Speaker 2: you a legitimate excuse to leave.

448
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Speaker 8: Class exactly, So you'll be just everyone is genuinely generally fine.

449
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Speaker 8: It's all about figuring out if you go some of

450
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Speaker 8: that knowing in advance. It's just it's amazing fun. You'll

451
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Speaker 8: love it. So I would say, I would say that

452
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Speaker 8: it's always the thing of like, it's easy to make

453
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Speaker 8: fun of the bad stuff like no sleep and all that,

454
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Speaker 8: but it's also got to remember it's so good that

455
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Speaker 8: you know, you have this thing living in your house,

456
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Speaker 8: that one that you sleep and is crushing you and

457
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Speaker 8: your exhaust and stuff, and you still love them. So

458
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Speaker 8: imagine how great they have to be. Imagine if you

459
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Speaker 8: have Imagine if you had a mate that woke you

460
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Speaker 8: up all night, how quickly you would get rid of

461
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Speaker 8: that mate. That's how much you love the kids you

462
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Speaker 8: let them stay.

463
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very true. I sort of feel like I've

464
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Speaker 4: been that to Will.

465
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Speaker 2: Together in Perth for a few months and that ended quickly.

466
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Speaker 3: It did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good work. Love enough now, but

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Speaker 1: I think you have to run, mate, Yes a zoom call?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

470
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Speaker 1: Ryan?

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Speaker 2: I do see Le's thanks for joining us, mate.

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Speaker 8: There you guys.

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Speaker 1: Women would that's some more in just a bit the

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Speaker 1: Will podcast.

475
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Speaker 4: I think it'd be funny, right night, right now to

476
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Speaker 4: have people who are crap at singing, they cannot hit

477
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Speaker 4: high notes calling us and trying to hit those high

478
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Speaker 4: notes live on radio. Now we've got Barbara here on

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Speaker 4: thirteen one oh sixty five. Get a babe, Hello, Bob.

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Speaker 1: You're a crap singer, very crap.

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Speaker 10: I love to sing, but I'm very crap.

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Speaker 2: It's very much a private thing, isn't it bad singing?

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Speaker 8: Well? I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean I enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: People around me don't.

486
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Speaker 1: But well, let's.

487
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Speaker 4: See how thousands of people in their cars go right now, now, Barbara,

488
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Speaker 4: what song do you want to go for?

489
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Speaker 1: What high note you want to hit?

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Speaker 6: I'm singing witness Houston, I Will Always Love You.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's the song.

492
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Speaker 2: There is the flagship of all high notes.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be extraordinary, Barbara.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well the floor is yours.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll play the song low behind you. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: take it away, Bob.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm We're always love you.

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Speaker 2: She didn't even go for it like she just she

499
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Speaker 2: was just slightly off and like quite I thought you

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Speaker 2: were going to belt it out. You're quite reserved in

501
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Speaker 2: your awfulness.

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Speaker 6: I'm afraid the Reserve persons National Radio.

503
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Speaker 2: Real truly great man going through.

504
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Speaker 1: She started mashing then over her face. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Ryan here, Ryan, what song do you want to hit

506
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Speaker 1: the high note of?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I'm gonna bust out a bit of aerosmith.

508
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Speaker 8: I don't want to miss her saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, that's the one.

510
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Speaker 4: So we've got a bit of a lead in here

511
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Speaker 4: with our audio, so you know the bit when to go, Ryan,

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Speaker 4: give it a whirl, mate.

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Speaker 5: I want to told my hand I don't want to

514
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Speaker 5: fall hotly because I miss your baby and I don't

515
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Speaker 5: want to miss a saying.

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Speaker 2: Attitude amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Texas Twain ride.

518
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Speaker 2: I didn't Mustafa's called goody Mustafa.

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Speaker 8: Hey guys, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? What song would you like to belt out?

521
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Speaker 8: I think the lady who specs to me said, I'm

522
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Speaker 8: going to sing adele.

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 1: So you've been you've been told what you're singing? Perfect? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Well must yes.

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Speaker 4: Honey over Simster cod BASANTI.

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Speaker 10: To tell you, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: There's only so much of this you can take. Isn't

529
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Speaker 2: it like it's just what we I.

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Speaker 1: Think we picked at barb and she was our first caller.

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Speaker 1: But let's go to Charlotte. I mean, I want to

532
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Speaker 1: see what Charlotte's made of, Charlotte. What are you going for?

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Speaker 6: I'm going for the song Titani.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure it's fine?

535
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Speaker 3: It is?

536
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Speaker 4: See you and David get her teaming up for this one.

537
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Speaker 2: Okay, this is a painful note even when Sea hits it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, Charlotte, when you read it, hit it. I reckon.

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Speaker 4: We'll just take this one right into the song, so

540
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Speaker 4: when we're feeling like you're done, the song will start

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Speaker 4: the real song that is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, shall you ready to go?

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I'm ready?

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Speaker 2: Not Jesus, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: At school tomorrow, Charlotte.

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Speaker 8: Farcastic?

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Speaker 2: Now is will? And how much is the perfect on

550
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Speaker 2: a vegimi. That's where we're at. That's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: And look, you might think to yourself, that's a lazy,

552
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Speaker 2: very general radio question, Will and you're going to get

553
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Speaker 2: it in feedback.

554
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Speaker 1: And I thought that, Yeah, what changed your mind?

555
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Speaker 2: I didn't have anything else to talk about, so I'm

556
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Speaker 2: glossing it up. No, no, no, I do think though

557
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Speaker 2: in Australia. Look, if I was asking this question in

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Speaker 2: any other country, take me off the Yeah. Sure, in

559
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Speaker 2: this country, every single person has a preference to how

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Speaker 2: much vegimiter is. And I'm going to go so far

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Speaker 2: as to say that I actually think that there is

562
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Speaker 2: a there is an amount that fits the quota for

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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of people.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to deliver that ter me?

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Speaker 2: Well, see, this is where it gets interesting because, as

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Speaker 2: you so eloquently pointed out before, my simplistic friend, we

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Speaker 2: are in an audible medium. Yes, so it's very hard

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Speaker 2: to describe just exactly what is the perfect amount of vegimite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so why are we doing this?

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Speaker 2: Because we're going to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Oh I like a challenge, Yeah, I like that. So

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Speaker 2: how much is the perfect the amount of vegimi?

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: So for me personally, I like to obviously like to

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Speaker 4: put butter on the bottom. We all agreed that it

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Speaker 4: goes best with you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Kate digital producer, said no, but don't know. She said,

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Speaker 2: butter on veggimie she just.

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Speaker 1: Goes straight, but straight Veggimie just goes straight. Veggie onto bread.

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Speaker 2: Do you take the lens cap off and you shoot

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Speaker 2: a video cage?

583
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Speaker 10: Serious?

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Speaker 1: I had to put that out there.

585
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Speaker 2: It's like brushing your teeth without toothpaste. She does that, savage?

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to defend yourself, Kate? Press the button there. Look,

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Speaker 1: I just didn't really like butter growing up, so I

588
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Speaker 1: went straight in and.

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Speaker 4: I'm fine with that, and I'm fine with that. Everyone

590
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Speaker 4: has a right to a taste. No, you don't taste

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Speaker 4: is right, arm is right off. But okay, So like

592
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Speaker 4: wiping your ass with your hand, I'm sorry, it's in.

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Speaker 1: The same areas, and some people do that and apparently.

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Speaker 2: Go to bear back with veggimie on toast, you may

595
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Speaker 2: as well just scoop it out of the jar.

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Speaker 1: So so for me, for me, I mean I put butter.

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Speaker 2: She's got an active pole on this by the way

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Speaker 2: as well. Okb oh, yeah, put it online? So do

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Speaker 2: we hear about that shortly?

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Speaker 1: But carry on Instagram stories if you want to see

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Speaker 1: the active pole.

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Speaker 4: But so I put butter on the bottom, yeah okay,

603
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Speaker 4: but then my level of veggimite is that I don't

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Speaker 4: want to see any butter.

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Speaker 2: You want to see any so I.

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Speaker 1: Would get so much vegemar.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you're on the anomaly here. So I'm surrounded

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Speaker 2: by app Can I you're going to donkey vote at

609
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Speaker 2: the next election? I know that about you. Yes you are.

610
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Speaker 2: That's the only thing you know how to do.

611
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Speaker 1: Now it's the.

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Speaker 2: Quickest can I Can I just go to Joel? You

613
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Speaker 2: have absolutely flabby, very into pologics. I just want to

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Speaker 2: go to Joel here, but he's the only other sane

615
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Speaker 2: person in the room. Okay, I've got well, sorry, but

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Speaker 2: what one person hasn't put butter on the toes? The

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Speaker 2: next one who shmeers it like Natella? How much veggimite

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Speaker 2: is the perfect amount of vegemite?

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Speaker 1: I actually can't have veggimind has too much.

620
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Speaker 2: But my wife gets me to make her every morning normal.

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Speaker 2: She's a nurse. She's a normal, but I like keys.

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Speaker 1: It has become so heated between the two of us.

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Speaker 9: I now every morning take her toast out, butter the

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Speaker 9: toast evenly and leave it for her to enter the

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Speaker 9: room and appropriate amount, because if you were to describe

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Speaker 9: the amount, I would say enough veggimi, yes, to consistently

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Speaker 9: melt with the butter, so that you get an even

628
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Speaker 9: spread across the toast without too much dark texture.

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Speaker 1: Across the bread.

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Speaker 2: It's a scrape.

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Speaker 1: Are you saying a fifty to fifty ratio between butter

632
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Speaker 1: and vegimon and bread?

633
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Speaker 3: Not enough?

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Speaker 1: Your enough bread between the breads that come through?

635
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Speaker 2: Not fifty? Is asking from a bloke?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd be seventy five twenty five more vegimi.

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Speaker 4: Now I appreciate them a freak, but I'm just asking

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Speaker 4: the normally seventy five.

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Speaker 2: I love my twenty five butter. What is going on?

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Speaker 3: You know?

641
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: A m with jennibalistic psychos eat it by the teaspoon? Love?

642
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Can I Can I just try and way in please

643
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Speaker 2: something that's relatable to our audience. So we've got a

644
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Speaker 2: bloke who puts the knife through the toast, We've got

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Speaker 2: a chick who doesn't put butter on the toast, and

646
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: we've got another guy who shmeers it like it's his

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Speaker 2: last tub.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what do you do?

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Speaker 2: All right? I think when it comes to vegimiite, if

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Speaker 2: you've put too much on, you've probably overdone it. That's

651
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Speaker 2: what my mum used to say to me when I

652
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Speaker 2: used to go and make her toast. She'd be like

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Speaker 2: vegimar on number one rules. First of all, it's not

654
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Speaker 2: a lathering. It's not peanut butter. It's not gonna tell okay,

655
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Speaker 2: it's just scraping. You'll hear quite a caustic sort of

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Speaker 2: a noise as the knife whips across the top of

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Speaker 2: the bread, preferably a sour dough of sorts. Obviously you're

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Speaker 2: doing it while it's hot. Obviously you're doing it after

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Speaker 2: the butter has melted.

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Speaker 1: Is there still a crisping noise when you've got butter

661
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Speaker 1: on the surface.

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00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely, there is, my friend. It's more of like a

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Speaker 2: more of like a dense sort of crispness to it.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly, but more importantly though, when you're looking

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Speaker 2: at the bread afterwards, you don't want to see you said,

666
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Speaker 2: even spread of vegetmi that it outrageous. You want like

667
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Speaker 2: a like a spec like like it was like a

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Speaker 2: graceful smattering of vege you might so if it is

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Speaker 2: not overdone.

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Speaker 4: If you're at a CAFA, this is a good test

671
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Speaker 4: is to describe how vegie might you want?

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Speaker 2: You would couldn't take the last two and a half minutes,

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Speaker 2: but you would you But you would say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: question on toast.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would like what was the way you described it?

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Speaker 2: I'd say, if you think you put too much on,

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Speaker 2: you probably.

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Speaker 1: Have That's all you would say.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's ridiculous. It's a direction. It's a

680
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Speaker 2: tough thing to say. Alright, let's well, let's let's turn

681
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Speaker 2: over to other people, because this is my point. It's

682
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Speaker 2: a very hard thing, and I'll blow with everybody else

683
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Speaker 2: in my shoes right now. This is for you, guys

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Speaker 2: thirty one and six five. You're asking someone to make

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Speaker 2: you veggie might toast. What's the instruction you give them

686
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Speaker 2: as to how much veggimit you want on the toast?

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Speaker 1: And it can only be one line?

688
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can only be one line on line. So

689
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Speaker 2: I think we've got an issue. I think we're nowhere here.

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Speaker 1: Yours is if if the.

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Speaker 2: Next person that calls up and says there's no but

692
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Speaker 2: I gets a show man, put a role play for you.

693
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Speaker 2: Put yourself in the position you've asked someone to order

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Speaker 2: you some veggiemite toasts. Right now, here's the question, how

695
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Speaker 2: do you explain? How do you describe to somebody how

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Speaker 2: much veggiemight you want? Because I think we're finding out

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Speaker 2: that it's a very very hard thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Your best attempt was if you think you've put too much,

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Speaker 1: it is too much.

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Speaker 2: You probably have.

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Speaker 1: Now, I just don't know that you're explaining it enough.

702
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Speaker 1: You're not described.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's it's something quite ethereal. I think

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Speaker 2: it's quite hard to put your finger on exactly what

705
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Speaker 2: this is. It's very ambiguous. And that's why I've gone with,

706
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Speaker 2: you know, quite broad terminology. You've got to use your

707
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Speaker 2: intuition a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think you're setting up the way to fail,

709
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Speaker 1: way to a waitress to fail.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 1: You want them to put too much.

712
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: I want them to fail.

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00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't want that direction.

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Speaker 2: A part of me destroy them afterwards. It is a

715
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: bit ethereal. Now if we who would have thought veggie

716
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: might But before I go to Gavin, I think that

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Speaker 2: our button push of Joel had a wonderful point before. Yeah,

718
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Speaker 2: and I just want it and it's about the color palette.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Joel, And.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going to do it more succinctly than

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to you, he said, And

722
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: he's bang on. If you've got it right, right, so

723
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Speaker 2: you put the butter on first, goes without saying apart

724
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Speaker 2: from our freak of a digital producer, av. You put

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00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: the butter on, it melts in, and then you get

726
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: the veggiemit and and if you do it right, there

727
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: will be darker patches on the toast. But then with

728
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: the schmear as it blends with the butter, the color

729
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: palette will become lighter, so it'll be like almost like

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Speaker 2: a golden brown in some points.

731
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Speaker 4: That's good, Okay, So that's a good direction. I want

732
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Speaker 4: my toast to look golden brown at the end.

733
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Speaker 2: You're not making French toast, mate, No, how can you

734
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: not get this before? You said to me, on, that's nice.

735
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: You mix it up like you're making cupcakes. Let's go

736
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Speaker 2: to Gavin. You would not make my toast. Let's would

737
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Speaker 2: never Gavin's called on thirty one and sixty five, Gavin,

738
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: how do you describe to someone how to put your

739
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: veggiemar on your toast?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just do the same ratio you would any other.

741
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Speaker 2: Oh gods, because you're salting the toast effectively.

742
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 8: Gavin's basically that's right.

743
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I disagree. Like, if you're going to get

744
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Speaker 2: a chip, you want to chip more salted than you

745
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: want your toast.

746
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Speaker 1: I dare propher woulds when you I'm confused? Is Gavin

747
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: sammon ga back? You put vegimin on like you put

748
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: salt on.

749
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Speaker 2: He said, you're salting it in the same proportion as

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Speaker 2: you would salt anything.

751
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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. I'm not going to go back to Devin.

752
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: Then completely different process I was going to get into explain,

753
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: but completely completely to a twist, Gavin clinically insane.

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Speaker 8: We agree.

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Speaker 2: Aaron has called on thirty Aaron, how would you describe

756
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: the perfect amount of vegemite on toast?

757
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Speaker 6: Crustly?

758
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: Guy?

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Speaker 10: I love the show, welcome back. I would I'm completely opposite.

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Speaker 10: I'm completely opposite to Woody. I think not being able

761
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Speaker 10: to see the buttery is freakish. But anyway, I.

762
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Speaker 2: Would go but he's a freak, Karen, I think we

763
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Speaker 2: have to he is a free I think.

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Speaker 5: We need to say that.

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Speaker 10: I would go seventy five percent butter, twenty five percent vegemite,

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Speaker 10: so I would like a light spread.

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Speaker 2: That's good. I think Errands as close as we got.

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Speaker 2: And I like you, are you a numbers person? Errand

769
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Speaker 2: you work in taxes?

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Speaker 10: I am No, I am a numbers person. I'm gonna cat.

771
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Speaker 2: Let's make it practical, so you take it out of

772
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: the ethereal air that it was breathing before.

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Speaker 4: If you're directing a waiter or a waitress to make

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Speaker 4: your vegimi toast, would you ask for a full knife

775
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Speaker 4: of butter?

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Speaker 1: So if we say that's one hundred percent, it's a

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Speaker 1: full knife. Like the length of.

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Speaker 2: The length of the knife. You can't even get the

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Speaker 2: length of the knife.

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Speaker 1: In the Okay, I'm just trying to make a real direction, kitchen. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going on.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to make this a real direction, because

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Speaker 4: if you give a weight or a waitress percentages, they're

784
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Speaker 4: going to be confused.

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Speaker 1: Again.

786
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Speaker 2: So they're not they will.

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Speaker 1: They're not numbers people.

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Speaker 2: You can't say to them.

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Speaker 4: You can't if you said to a wait away, did

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Speaker 4: you call a cafe right now and say hi, comes

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00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: veg to my toast. Yeah, on a seventy five to

792
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: twenty five percent ratio, that would be confused.

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00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't mate. That's why it's a percentage. So

794
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: even if you did put the whole knife in the butter,

795
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: then you use a quarter of that. I'm sure I

796
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: should say a third of that. That's what I'm saying,

797
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: a quarter of Jesus Dam, I'm telling use it. It's tough. Now,

798
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Look you made You've made a very good point before,

799
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: which is we need to be able to test this

800
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: out in some way, totally inadvertently as usual. And so

801
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: what I've done is I've brought in Analyse, who's our

802
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: junior producer in here. Analyst, welcome, thank you. So she

803
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: hasn't heard any of the former chat around us trying

804
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: to describe this.

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Speaker 1: Have you worked at a cafe?

806
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, that's good, that's right. Great, she's the normal person.

808
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go to Matthew before because she's

809
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: going to test it out. We're going to give it

810
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Speaker 2: to Analyse.

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Speaker 1: She's got a piece of looks like the crust.

812
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was toasted breakfast, had a six hundred dollars

813
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: bath of chocolate this morning, and we've got a frozen

814
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: piece of whole milk crust from the back in the freezer.

815
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell is this? To come back

816
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: from a break and you're like.

817
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: What great national show?

818
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: It be great to be back in the chair of

819
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: a professional outfit and at least got a plastic knife,

820
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: a top of flora. Mind you, where the hell's the

821
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 2: lur back and she's running around with a crusher and cheese.

822
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Speaker 1: All my days I'm finding a fresh piece of toast