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Speaker 1: This is Jemney.

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Speaker 2: She with Jerzy.

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Speaker 3: Well, the story about the mainly jersey, the Pride jersey,

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Speaker 3: is still a big story today. Front page of the

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Speaker 3: paper of both papers is the story. When I say

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Speaker 3: both papers too, I've got in front of me the

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Speaker 3: Herald and the Telegraph. We've got Hugh Jackman in front

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Speaker 3: of the Telegraph wearing the manly Pride jersey yep and

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Speaker 3: pointing at one of the.

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Speaker 4: Sponsors.

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Speaker 3: Isn't the worst.

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Speaker 4: It's got You for Life. It's Gus Flolan's mental health campaign,

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Speaker 4: Got You for Life, which he's done much to do.

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Speaker 4: And Hugh is good mates with Gus. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if he's ever told you that, And so Hugh's backing that,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if he's actually Hugh would obviously

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Speaker 4: be supporting the rainbow colors on the jersey, but you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, it's not the bigger deal for him,

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Speaker 4: the big moment his mate's charity being front and center

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Speaker 4: on the jersey. A lot of people don't realize this.

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Speaker 4: There's so much minutia that goes into getting a jersey

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Speaker 4: up there and putting the very.

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Speaker 3: Year in the making. And that's what's so interesting in

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Speaker 3: part of this story is that this jersey was a

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Speaker 3: year in the making. Hugh Jackman got cent A jersey,

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Speaker 3: Chris Hemsworth got center jersey for a year. They've been

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Speaker 3: planning this. The player's only heard about it when they

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Speaker 3: read it in the newspaper earlier this week. This is

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Speaker 3: a classic story, it seems, of the marketing arm versus

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Speaker 3: the playing arm of the team. That's been a giant

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Speaker 3: debarcle about that, but it's just what they all set

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Speaker 3: out to do in great inclusivity has torn a big

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Speaker 3: rift through it, which makes this really hard. We heard

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Speaker 3: Ian Roberts yesterday, who was the first NRL gay player

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Speaker 3: to out himself. In fact, I think he's the only

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Speaker 3: gay player in his playing years to say that he's gay.

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Speaker 3: It's a very brave thing to have done. He's an

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Speaker 3: incredible man. He's what he said yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I suppose the hardest thing for me when there's been

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Speaker 5: so much pushback. And this is very personal to me

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Speaker 5: as an older gay person because you know, old lost

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Speaker 5: friends to suicide and the consequences of all homo fabor

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Speaker 5: change favor, all the failures can do to people. You know,

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Speaker 5: I just wish I could sit round that table with

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Speaker 5: those players and explain to them that you know, unfortunately

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Speaker 5: there are kids out in the suburbs, out in the

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Speaker 5: regions today who might have been might have heard many

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Speaker 5: stories in the last month, but I can promise you

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Speaker 5: they heard this story.

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Speaker 3: And why didn't the club get him to sit around

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Speaker 3: and tell the players what the jersey want?

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Speaker 4: Well, the club you just least said to the players, guys,

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Speaker 4: we're going to be doing this in a year's time.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about it?

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Speaker 3: Interesting, forty five percent of NRL players are Samoan tongue

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Speaker 3: and Fiji and Cookaan heritage. This seems to be the

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Speaker 3: theme here is that the players who are unhappy on

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Speaker 3: religious grounds.

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Speaker 4: Christianity, but a lot of it is the white Man

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Speaker 4: took to them hundreds of years ago. So really it's

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Speaker 4: it's a self fulfilling thing in a way.

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Speaker 3: Well inclusivity means as well as not instead of but

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Speaker 3: they feel that they can't support this. As we said yesterday,

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Speaker 3: there's a huge betting agency that sponsored the club.

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Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of other alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Sponsorships and things associated with it.

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Speaker 4: But Christianity is not really against alcohol or gambling. There's

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Speaker 4: many references in the Bible about Jesus turns water into wine,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 3: And what about betting.

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Speaker 4: There's a bit where he didn't want the temple turned

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Speaker 4: into a like there was all the people turning his

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Speaker 4: temple into a haberdasherie, people selling it. Wasn't happy and

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Speaker 4: he was unhappy. He tipped the tablet Islam. On the

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Speaker 4: other hand, you can't do anything well.

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Speaker 3: On one hand, we have yes, of course, it's your choice.

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Speaker 3: On the other, as we discussed yesterday, this is about inclusivity.

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Speaker 3: This is your club asking you to wear a uniform,

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Speaker 3: and if you don't want to wear that uniform or

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Speaker 3: they've stood down, they're not going to be playing.

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Speaker 4: But what does that say.

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Speaker 3: The whole point of this was to be inclusive, and

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Speaker 3: instead it's disrupted the whole thing. Dez Hasler was quite

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Speaker 3: I thought, quite inspirational in the words he said yesterday.

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Speaker 6: We wish to sincerely apologize for the stakes, for the

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Speaker 6: mistakes we have made. We wish to apologize to the

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Speaker 6: minority groups within the community who embrace the rainbow colors

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Speaker 6: as a symbol of pride in who they are, what

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Speaker 6: they stand for, and their impassion advocacy to enhance basic

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Speaker 6: tolerance and acceptance within the diversity and inclusion space. We

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Speaker 6: wish to apologize to the LGBTQ community who embrace the

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Speaker 6: rainbow colors to use these colors for pride and advocacy

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Speaker 6: and human rights issues. We acknowledge the role of the

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Speaker 6: LGBTQ community has played in breaking down the barriers for

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Speaker 6: many other groups who also utilize the rainbow colors.

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Speaker 4: It's hard saying LGBTQI community as well. You're trying to

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Speaker 4: do that. Say that ten times.

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Speaker 3: He was quite emotional. And this has been such a palava.

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Speaker 3: The club is going ahead with the plan. They will

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Speaker 3: be wearing the jersey, but they'll be minus some of

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Speaker 3: their key players. We put this to the pub test

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Speaker 3: yesterday and it was such a We got such a

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Speaker 3: diversity of responses.

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Speaker 2: No, I reckon, if you want to be gay, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: made but you know, don't force it onto everybody else.

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Speaker 7: You want to have your own game, don't get your

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Speaker 7: own game, leave our game alone. As a man said,

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Speaker 7: they're cherry picking their Christianity, and this is not what

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Speaker 7: Christianity is all about. It's about embracing everybody and giving

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Speaker 7: everyone love, not segregating everyone and telling somebody that they're

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Speaker 7: worthless and.

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Speaker 2: Useless when a majority is going to have minorities stop

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Speaker 2: being pushed upon us. It's just wrong that they're solid

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Speaker 2: men and they what are we wearing around rainbows? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, minorities need to understand. Not all of majorities

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Speaker 2: accept it. That's wrong.

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Speaker 7: Now, it doesn't it's the uniform.

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Speaker 8: They don't want to wear the uniform. Don't pay them.

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Speaker 8: These young men are in a very privileged position to

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Speaker 8: be playing a team for their living. And if you

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Speaker 8: don't like it, go get a job somewhere else. Try

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Speaker 8: wearing personal protecting equipment lafter years at the hospital.

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Speaker 1: It does not pass the pub test.

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Speaker 8: This is selective, hypocritical Christianity. They should all be sacked

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Speaker 8: if they don't play.

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Speaker 7: We are not robots, we are human games, and we

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Speaker 7: all have our own akinis and they all differ.

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Speaker 1: Oh, a manly supporter, a passionate manly supporter. And it

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Speaker 1: actually discussed me that these guys have got the hide

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Speaker 1: to not wear this jersey. It's not up to date.

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Speaker 1: We've got to put up with these guys praying after

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Speaker 1: the game, which I find insulting, and yet they won't

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Speaker 1: come to the party. I reckon that these boys are

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Speaker 1: employed by that company and the boss just to kick

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Speaker 1: in uniform. So they should be stopping so entitled and

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Speaker 1: do what they're told. So they should stop being whiners

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Speaker 1: and get on with it.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting there. One of the callers said,

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Speaker 3: why should the majority have to put up with the minority?

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Speaker 3: Meaning why do we have to support homosexuals and lgbtwo QI.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the.

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Speaker 3: Latest census, people of a religious back of people who

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Speaker 3: are practicing Christians or of any religion in Australia are

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Speaker 3: the minority. We are a secular society, so that is

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Speaker 3: the minority. So I thought that was interesting. But also

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Speaker 3: imagine what this does to young gay people, people on

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Speaker 3: the sexual spectrum. To see it discussed like this is

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Speaker 3: so heartbreaking. We take three steps forward, we take eight

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Speaker 3: steps back. And I think that's what Des Hasler and

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Speaker 3: all these people were saying yesterday's We were trying to

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Speaker 3: do the right thing and we're sorry it erupted.

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Speaker 4: As for the Manly jersey itself, it's been sold out.

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Speaker 3: Good on yet the fans have bought it.

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Speaker 4: Good on them.