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Speaker 1: Onto a very different topic, and we know that bag

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Speaker 1: limits have been announced for the upcoming waterfowl hunting season.

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Speaker 1: Hunters can take seven magpie geese per day, with ducks

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Speaker 1: cap to ten to ensure populations remain sustainable. The Environment

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Speaker 1: Department's manager of Wildlife Use, Tim Clancy joins me on

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Speaker 1: the line now to break it all down. Good morning

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Speaker 1: to you, Tim, Great to have you on the show, Tim,

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Speaker 1: How have these bag limits changed much compared to last year?

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Speaker 2: Are they're the same as last year? We set the

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Speaker 2: bag limits based on the population surveys and pick sort

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Speaker 2: of presholds of the population size. So yeah, the population

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Speaker 2: is above the preshold the seven a baglin the seven,

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Speaker 2: So I'll stay the same this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, that is that's probably going to be good to

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Speaker 1: hear if you are someone who's out there who enjoys

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Speaker 1: your hunting. How do you arrive at those bag limit numbers?

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Speaker 2: Well, we based on the sort of sustainable harvest or

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Speaker 2: where you know, when we've got a reasonably healthy population.

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Speaker 2: We said at the maximum, which is seven, if the

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Speaker 2: population drops blow one point two to five millions, so

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Speaker 2: it's just above. But if it dropped the low one

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Speaker 2: point two high which reduced the bag limit to five

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Speaker 2: and it drops blow a million. We reduce the bag

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Speaker 2: limit of three, and it dropped if it ever went

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Speaker 2: below half a million, which is a lot of couse,

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Speaker 2: you know, sort of a long way blow what we want.

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Speaker 2: The season will be closed.

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Speaker 1: And so based like other numbers, looking pretty healthy.

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Speaker 2: Right now, they're okay, they're nowhere near levels they have

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Speaker 2: been back in the eighties and nineties of populations up

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Speaker 2: around three million. Then that they're sort of tracking. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's last year wasn't a great wet whereas this recent

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Speaker 2: week was pretty good. So I expect good survivorship and

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Speaker 2: good recruitment going through it. And the next year, so

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Speaker 2: you know, by toime, we did a surveys. Next year,

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Speaker 2: we actually expect a slightly higher population again, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the population is largely different by the fluctuations in rainfall,

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Speaker 2: especially now what happens with the time of the wet

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Speaker 2: season rain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so it is, but like it is, quite

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Speaker 1: a bit of it is based on that weather.

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Speaker 2: Oh, pretty much most of the impact on the population

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Speaker 2: is driven by chines and weather, but then things like

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Speaker 2: the harvesting coming over top. Actually there's anuple layer it

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Speaker 2: has to be considered. So there's there's a recreational take,

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Speaker 2: there's a peat production take, and there's an original take

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Speaker 2: for traditional use. So there's going to be balanced.

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Speaker 1: Now, Tim, tell me when exactly does the season get underway.

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Speaker 1: I understand that some people can hunt on private land

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Speaker 1: before they can hunt on those reserves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. The season and will start on private

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Speaker 2: land as early as a portam for the August. The

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Speaker 2: reason we do that earlier because it gives the opportunity

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Speaker 2: for horticulturalists, especially if they're getting he's coming in early,

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Speaker 2: so they can call on recreational shooters just to sort

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Speaker 2: of sentily be a bit of a term and to

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Speaker 2: stop the really big numbers building on property. So we

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Speaker 2: allow a little bit of a shooting on private land earlier,

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Speaker 2: and then public land opens on the twenty of the September.

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Speaker 1: Now, for anybody who is needing a permit, how do

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Speaker 1: they go about getting one?

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Speaker 2: They can either just just go onto the website or

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Speaker 2: they can go to the Parks office at Palmerston, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: probably just go on the website, give you all what

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Speaker 2: said for water five hunting permits and give you all

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Speaker 2: the details. It's I think twenty dollars for an annual

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Speaker 2: permit and eighty dollars for a five year permit. And

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Speaker 2: there's a few things they've got to do to make

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Speaker 2: sure they can dolops the whole permit. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: beast to be going on the website, read the details.

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Speaker 1: And tim what's been the feedback from hunters, you know,

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Speaker 1: as the bag limit numbers have been announced and staying

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Speaker 1: the same as last year up to people seem pretty

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Speaker 1: happy with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, most of when we did the extensive

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Speaker 2: consultation for the management program, actually most hunters were saying

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Speaker 2: they wanted reason they restricted bag limits or are happy

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Speaker 2: with a sort of a conservative approach as a small

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Speaker 2: group who now often argue for you always for the

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Speaker 2: maximum possible. But the Bogle hunters, I think not one

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Speaker 2: thing we foundly looked at the actual guard of it.

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Speaker 2: The vast majority of hunters, even for backland, at seven

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Speaker 2: or even ten when it has been historically I'll usually

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Speaker 2: only take three a day. That's sort of the standard

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Speaker 2: sort of you know, sort of eighty percent. Hundreds take

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Speaker 2: two to three, maybe four. In most are hunting troops

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Speaker 2: because you got you know, you've got a deal for

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Speaker 2: the animals, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So how do you enforce it, Like, how do you

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Speaker 1: make sure that people are doing the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, the hunting reserves are patrolled and there's inspections and

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Speaker 2: I'll go an I'll since you go around and talk

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Speaker 2: to hunters and check their what they've gotten there, you know,

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Speaker 2: what they they've shots for a day, et cetera. We

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Speaker 2: rely a lot on the haunting community is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It sort of you know, they realize the sort of

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Speaker 2: social license is driven by the community at large and

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Speaker 2: being you know, there's not illegal stuff going on, so

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Speaker 2: they're very quick to report. You know, there's some really

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Speaker 2: sort of mad and pavid I'll let us know. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: and there's that. We also rely on the direct enforcement

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Speaker 2: type activities.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just before I let you go, I understand that

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Speaker 1: you've also got an app now that hunters can use.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hunting apps, So they can download that. It won't

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Speaker 2: be updated quite yet, but closer to the season opening,

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Speaker 2: I can download that and that allows them actually to

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Speaker 2: keep the records of the return so they can actually

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Speaker 2: automatically record the number of birds they got in the day,

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Speaker 2: which makes it reporting a lot easier. We're really keen

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Speaker 2: on getting better information from hunters on their hunting trips,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, we can courage people to download the out

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Speaker 2: and use it.

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Speaker 1: Well. Tim, good to catch up with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time and appreciate you letting us know

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Speaker 1: what the situation is with those bag limits for this season.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so Cartie, thank you, thanks very much,