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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to the final episode. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>janor it it's not so dramatic, Laura, it's the last

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<v Speaker 1>episode we're ever doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, it's been fun. Goodbye. No, we've got to continue

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<v Speaker 2>that Daily Mail. We'll take that. No one's gonna listen again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's not the last episode, but we're coming very

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<v Speaker 1>close to the end of the year. It's the last

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<v Speaker 1>structured episode that we're doing. We've got a few bonus

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<v Speaker 1>episodes up our sleeve, but this is it twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Can go eat a dick?

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<v Speaker 3>Hellow tell us what you really think. That is the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the episode. Thanks for coming. It is almost Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually, in our head said that we were going

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<v Speaker 3>to have four to five weeks off. That's what we

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<v Speaker 3>originally planned because we didn't really take any time off

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<v Speaker 3>this year, Low.

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<v Speaker 2>And Behold, and we've ended up with about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Brittany Hockley did go over season four and a half months,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's not talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's pretend like it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that doesn't take anything off the podcast. I still

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<v Speaker 3>had to get up at three am to a podcast

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<v Speaker 3>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, when you're on the other side of the world

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<v Speaker 1>actually does it. It's not conducive for having a holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>When Britt was traveling, what she then had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was record on our schedule, which meant she was up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that for you, but you know what, I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>for the people. Christmas is around the corner. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We're super excited to take a few weeks off, but

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to be sprinkling in a few bonus episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>Sophiar not we will never ever leave you completely high

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<v Speaker 3>and drive. But Laura, you are literally in two hours

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<v Speaker 3>about to take off.

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<v Speaker 1>For your Christmas Vaca forty five minutes. I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be hard out at eleven am. We're about to get

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<v Speaker 1>into like, guys, pray for me. When this episode comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be halfway through a twelve hour drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it to Brison? I don't know. We're breaking up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing six hours today, going to end up in

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<v Speaker 1>Coffs Harbor, and then we're going to do the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the drive tomorrow. But not only are we taking

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<v Speaker 1>the two kids in the car, we're also taking the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a whole family affair. Matt is so angry,

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<v Speaker 1>like we got up this morning to pack the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know when he was already irritated, he was

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<v Speaker 1>already angry for no reason. He's anticipating what the next

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<v Speaker 1>two days or I should say two weeks are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be totally.

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<v Speaker 2>So Bust is going with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had to pay. It's just too long, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's part of the family. We can't do Christmas with

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<v Speaker 1>our buster.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you can't, Okay, So pray for Laura. She's got

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<v Speaker 3>a hecta trip. What do you think is gonna happen

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<v Speaker 3>once you hit the border? Do you think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a lineup of hours to cross?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they actually asking for vaccinations? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to anticipate it being any worse than

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<v Speaker 1>what I already think it's gonna be. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anybody wants to listen to the start of this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of me being like, yeah, I'm gonna sit in the

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<v Speaker 1>line for two hours? What are you guys doing for

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<v Speaker 1>your Christmas break?

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<v Speaker 2>Would? Do you know what the scary thing is? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>flying to the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going up to the Gold Coast with my family,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so strict up there that if anyone on

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<v Speaker 3>your plane has COVID, they put you as a close

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<v Speaker 3>contact and if you were at the other end of

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<v Speaker 3>the plane, and that means you have to quarantine for

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<v Speaker 3>seven days. So that is I mean, that is a

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<v Speaker 3>huge risk with how many people having COVID every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I know, it's kind of like COVID roulette. It

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<v Speaker 2>is roulette.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, do I sacrifice my fly? This is where

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<v Speaker 3>I am today. I've only got a day to decide.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I sacrifice my flight and just do the ten

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<v Speaker 3>hour drive up as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's one of the reasons why we're doing the drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do it. You can take one of the kids

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<v Speaker 2>and then we can Okay, I'm flying, you take a moola.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I get the little one? Why do I

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<v Speaker 2>get the crying one?

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<v Speaker 1>There's more dependent to be honest, She's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a handful. But anyway, guys, we have a great episode

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<v Speaker 1>for you today. We are coming in hot right to

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<v Speaker 1>the finish line, and just to really spice things up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a spice Christmas pudding, We're giving you

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<v Speaker 1>a whole episode on kinks and fetishes and fetishers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Australia's most famous psycho sex sologists rejoining us

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<v Speaker 1>today because Chantelle has actually done an episode with us

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. It's Chantalotten and she is answering all

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<v Speaker 1>of the questions that you guys had that we had

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<v Speaker 1>around kinks and fetishes. We also have one of our own,

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the lifelun Cut community. Her name is Nicky,

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<v Speaker 1>and she likes to get down and get a bit

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<v Speaker 1>kinky and was so open in sharing her stories around it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a great episode, so stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>She has one.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very specific kink which I'm not going to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you about now, but I was so interested and I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't heard anyone speak so freely about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We ask all the hard questions and Nicky honestly does

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<v Speaker 1>not hold back. But Britt, I have something I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you because a bit of a weird time

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<v Speaker 1>for us now, because Marley is almost three's two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, she's old enough to understand the concept of

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas like she understands Santa. I don't know if she

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<v Speaker 1>fully understands that Santa's coming on one night.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, just a little editor's note on this one, I

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<v Speaker 1>am about to talk about some things around Santa Claus

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe aren't appropriate for little ears. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that some of you listen to this in the car

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<v Speaker 1>with your kids, so if you want to skip ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just skip ahead a few minutes. But also just

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder, this episode is about kink, so it might

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<v Speaker 1>not be the episode that you want to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Car with the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But the more that we kind of sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about in Matt and I and we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we want to frame Christmas for our kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do we want the kids to grow up

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<v Speaker 1>thinking and believing? And what do you want them to

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<v Speaker 1>remember when they're older.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what you talk about when you're grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously, like we all grew up believing in Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we all grew up thinking, yeah, Santa was real,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one day, maybe when we were seven, eight, nine, ten,

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<v Speaker 1>we had our little hearts crushed.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were four years old, we had our heart crushed.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when you found out that Santa wasn't real?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember the exact moment, but I remember like

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<v Speaker 3>there was no significant moment for me. But I remember

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<v Speaker 3>I was probably about ten eleven. I think I was

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<v Speaker 3>quite young. But we because I had my younger sister,

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<v Speaker 3>there's four of us, you have to keep going. So

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<v Speaker 3>my poor brothers were teenagers and they were still like

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<v Speaker 3>Santa's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know, I will never forget. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe seven or eight. I was at my cousin's house

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<v Speaker 1>and it was my step cousin who my mum was

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<v Speaker 1>married at the time, and her name was Veronica. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Veronica and my coming to me and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Santa isn't real, Like you're an idiot if you believe

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<v Speaker 1>in Santa? And I just remember my whole world just

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<v Speaker 1>being like who am I? And it ran to my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and I was like, Mum, tell me the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Santa not real? And she was like, yeah, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's not real. Just traumatized.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know I have two older brothers. This is

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<v Speaker 3>so funny. If they hear me tell his story, they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna die. My second oldest brother, Dane, he nearly got

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<v Speaker 3>suspended from school because he got into a big punch

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<v Speaker 3>up and my oldest brother had to tell him the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>He got into a punch up at school because another

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<v Speaker 3>kid told him that Santa wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Real mate going on the fucking NAUGHTI list with that behavior, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, here, he is real. They've gone to

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<v Speaker 2>a fight and they had a forum punch up for Dane.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so loyal. He was defending Santa, and my brother

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<v Speaker 2>had to be like, bro, like.

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<v Speaker 3>I got I can't let you get into these school fights. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's how he found out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that everybody, well no, I shouldn't say everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so many of us listening to this can

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<v Speaker 1>remember the time that we found out that Santa wasn't real.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a real pivotal part in your childhood. But

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<v Speaker 1>something that I have a question for. So we've been okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been doing the the groundwork on Sander's coming. He's

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<v Speaker 1>bringing presents. Don't be naughty or you won't get anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did Santa in every single movie that you've ever watched,

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<v Speaker 1>in every single cartoon, in every single book, why does

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<v Speaker 1>Sander go to the house drop off presents, then get

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<v Speaker 1>on his slegh and fly away. Why doesn't he just

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<v Speaker 1>delivered to the house next door, Like why does he

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<v Speaker 1>go somewhere? So it seems very inefficient.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask the same thing about Australia Post.

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<v Speaker 2>They throw it and they run. God knows where they

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<v Speaker 2>go next. I actually wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask you a question. It's probably not as deep and

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<v Speaker 3>serious as your question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, I really do bring the hard hitting ones.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too close to Christmas. I've done nothing serious going

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<v Speaker 1>into my life.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about Christmas pudding? Great? I detest it.

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<v Speaker 2>I detest the look, the texture, the smell, the taste.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why Christmas pudding has to be our

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<v Speaker 3>national Christmas dessert.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I mean it's a bit of an ugly darkling.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you don't you don't put it on the table

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, look at the masterpiece that is boiled

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas pudding. It's very nostalgic for me. My grandma always

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<v Speaker 1>cooked it as a kid. She'd spend six hours cooking

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas pudding, which sounds like it would be dry

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<v Speaker 1>as fuck, but she would boil it.

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<v Speaker 3>But people also make them like a year in advance,

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<v Speaker 3>put them in the cupboard and let them fester, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's like a cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you don't do the same thing. As cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm glad that we think the opposite on this,

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<v Speaker 1>but a bit of custard on there, I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to know what happened on Christmas? I'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to hear if anybody else has these kind of stories.

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<v Speaker 3>But just like a Christmas, I guess a Christmas is

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<v Speaker 3>accidentally unfiltered. That's what I would like to hear from

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, just out of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>One year, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>A really, really good friend that's Muslim. He does not

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<v Speaker 3>drink alcohol. He has never drunk alcohol in his whole

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<v Speaker 3>life because it's just not what they believe in. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking not even a sip. He spent Christmas with my

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<v Speaker 3>family one year and we knew what he could eat.

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<v Speaker 3>We catered for him for drinking, food and everything. The

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<v Speaker 3>desserts come out and I has said to my mom

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<v Speaker 3>and Mom, I'm throwing you onto the bus. I had

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<v Speaker 3>said to my mom, Mom, like, there's no alcohol in anything,

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<v Speaker 3>is there?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And She's like absolutely not. You know I know what

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<v Speaker 2>it was, Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway she puts she soaks the You know when you

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<v Speaker 3>make a trifle and you have that like the bread

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<v Speaker 3>at the bottom, what's it called it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's like a strange case. And you put

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<v Speaker 2>like you we caught sucking the words. Yes, you put

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<v Speaker 2>porn or you put sherry or something.

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<v Speaker 3>He has soaked it in alcohol and just didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>think for days and she puts it in. He eats it,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, this is delicious. Halfway through, I'm like, mom.

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<v Speaker 2>This tastes like alcohol. He looks up. She looks at him.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at him.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a ten whye look across the table and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>did you just accidentally make me.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink alcop for the first time in my life. He

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty three years old and my mum ruined it

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<v Speaker 2>for him. She was besides her.

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<v Speaker 3>That was our Christmas accidentally unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good she ruined all his beliefs. Anyway, if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have I just thought it was funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been thought of that until now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys have any Christmas accidental filters, we'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to hear them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we wanted to keep this intro lighthearted. We were like,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're coming into the end of the year, coming

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<v Speaker 1>in hot for Christmas, nobody wants to hear about all

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<v Speaker 1>the big bad and horrible things happening in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a few, but one thing we did want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, because this is a time of real

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<v Speaker 1>change coming into the new year twenty twenty two, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do a whole episode on New Year's resolutions that

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<v Speaker 1>we never ever keep, but one because we do do

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<v Speaker 1>that every year. Yes, we absolutely do, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>never kept any of them. Do as we say, not

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<v Speaker 1>as we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I do want to talk to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>about that is the iOS update on Apple. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are an Apple user, you will be familiar with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that just recently, Apple has rolled out a new

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<v Speaker 1>update and one of the weirdest, most unnecessary changes that

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<v Speaker 1>they have made is moving the search bar on Safari

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of the page.

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<v Speaker 3>Apple needs to be put in the bin. Goodbye Apple.

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<v Speaker 3>You are a little rotten fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they don't ever want to sponsor the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You are rotten fruit. You need to go in the bin.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you do this? I have a theory.

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<v Speaker 3>They want people to feel like they're constantly doing things

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<v Speaker 3>for improvement. They want people to feel like, oh, but

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<v Speaker 3>look what we did this year. We did this, this

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<v Speaker 3>and this and then because they.

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<v Speaker 2>Charge extraortion rates.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're just trying to make people think that

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<v Speaker 3>they are making improvements when all it's doing is sending

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<v Speaker 3>people insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Well also, like, I mean, I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a true testament to the fact that we hate change.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we talk about how we like change. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that we like, you know, the exciting things that

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<v Speaker 1>come with being able to have new opportunities and do

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<v Speaker 1>new things. But at the end of the day, we

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<v Speaker 1>all hate change. Any single time Instagram rolls out of

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<v Speaker 1>change whatever it is, everyone hates it. Facebook hates it.

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<v Speaker 1>These are free platforms that we don't pay anything for,

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<v Speaker 1>but we get really angry whenever they change something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Controversial opinion. I love change. I love change. Do I

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<v Speaker 2>like the update?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But change is like a whole I froth it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been the person that's like, I could move to

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<v Speaker 3>another country tomorrow one hundred percent. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>give me any warm up, lead up, you don't need

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<v Speaker 3>to tell me any details.

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<v Speaker 2>I could just turn up and roll with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you move my search bar to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the apple. Okay, so this is my hot tip,

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<v Speaker 1>and we put this up on our Instagram up on

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<v Speaker 1>life on cut podcast. If you're not following, guys, it's

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<v Speaker 1>full of gray life advice. Here is my hot tip.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to move your search bar from the

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<v Speaker 1>iOS at the bottom of the phone back up to

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<v Speaker 1>where it belongs in its rightful, glorious place at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>all you have to do is go into Safari, hit

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<v Speaker 1>the AA, and do it. Let's do with this in

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<v Speaker 1>real time everyone. I actually have to open your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Safari.

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<v Speaker 1>Open Safari, click the AA, which is next to the

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<v Speaker 1>search bar.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even have that. Yeah, see the little A

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<v Speaker 2>and then the game. I was looking at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Like at the very very bottom left, there's two

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<v Speaker 1>capital letter as, one smaller one's big yeah. Press the

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<v Speaker 1>very top one which says show top address bar. Press

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<v Speaker 1>that and you are welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you've just given it back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is just update.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope we've changed some of your lives like you've

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<v Speaker 3>just changed mine, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>You are very welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, and we're going to bring you some accidentally

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<v Speaker 3>unfiltered We love this section, but I am actually going

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit rogue and I am bringing you a confessional.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I'm bringing you a confessional today is because

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<v Speaker 3>it ties in very nicely with the conversation we had

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<v Speaker 3>last week on Ask Guncut. If you listened, you will

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<v Speaker 3>remember we spoke about a trade that absolutely destroyed Laura's toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we went to speak about pooping in rentals in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of when you're viewing rentals.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to an inspection.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, is it okay to go and do a house

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<v Speaker 1>inspection and use the toilet at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it is, and we still will never agree on this.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no, I don't think it is, but I'd

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<v Speaker 3>rather do that than shat my pants.

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<v Speaker 2>I have ready, Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>I had so many people write to me saying, Laura

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<v Speaker 3>has obviously never been in a position. So many people

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<v Speaker 3>are saying, when you need to go, you need to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura obviously has not experienced that. Otherwise you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 3>you are exploiting.

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<v Speaker 2>In that toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>But this confessional has to do with that. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was in my early twenties, my ex and I inspected

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<v Speaker 3>an apartment by ourselves, the ones where the real estate

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<v Speaker 3>gives you the keys and trusts you to be responsible adults.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we decided to be really.

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<v Speaker 3>Responsible and have sex in the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>On all the floors and beds. We innocently returned to

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<v Speaker 2>the keys and said the place looked really nice, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we didn't even apply for it. Upon reflection, what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell? Who does that?

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<v Speaker 3>There is a time and a place, and I really

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that was it anyway. Moral of the story,

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<v Speaker 3>wipe all surfaces when moving into a rental because you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what or who has been getting it on.

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<v Speaker 3>Also related to your story, I've noticed that while inspecting rentals,

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<v Speaker 3>most of them don't have toilet paper anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think pooping during.

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<v Speaker 3>Inspection is far more common than you think that, or

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<v Speaker 3>the previous tenants have locked on the toilet paper away

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<v Speaker 3>because of COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you god.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that what I have done previously is very innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that you've made this whole episode about you

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<v Speaker 1>and absolving your sins.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it makes me realize that I don't get off

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<v Speaker 3>on going to rental infections and pooping.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what things you do, it is not my kink lora,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not my feti. But if it was, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no shame here.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm sure that people have had sex at a

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<v Speaker 3>rental inspections.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I received another confessional this week and one of our

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<v Speaker 1>lovely listeners went to a Christmas party and had sex

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<v Speaker 1>with a coworker on her boss's desk. And to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, your sins are absolved to that ice solution.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I have a very funny accidentally unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately they're always to do with toilets, but luckily this

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<v Speaker 1>one has nothing to do with the human, more so

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<v Speaker 1>with a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies, boy, do I have a doozy.

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<v Speaker 1>My dog has been a bit unwealthy past couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, this is a little bit gross, but he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps having accidents during the day, like only a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but holy hell, it smells unbelievably bad. So he took

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<v Speaker 1>him to the vet the other day to have him

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<v Speaker 1>checked out. And the vet is down in the business

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<v Speaker 1>end inspecting my dog's backside. When the vet says, ah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the issue is anal sex.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the hell? In my mind, I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually like, what the fuck are you saying? My

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<v Speaker 1>dog has not been having anal sex. I'm like a

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<v Speaker 1>stage five dog mum and my dog is literally never alone,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know my dog hasn't been getting the hanky

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<v Speaker 1>panky on let alone in the backside. So I asked

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<v Speaker 1>the vettie again, I'm sorry, what did you just say?

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<v Speaker 1>And she looks me dead in the eye and says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of your dog's anal sex. Now I was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to feel a little bit flustered and judged, and

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<v Speaker 1>also a bit angry, to be honest, like as if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just letting my dog run around the dog park

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<v Speaker 1>having anal sex. I said, if it's best life, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's correct. And the vet looked at

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<v Speaker 1>me confused, and she says, well, if you would like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can take him and get a second opinion. And

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<v Speaker 1>I turn around I say so defiantly to the vet

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<v Speaker 1>my dog has not been having anal sex. The vet

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<v Speaker 1>looks at me and bursts out laughing anal secks. Your

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<v Speaker 1>dog needs to get his anal sex expressed, doesn't bust I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to do every week? I am gone levitating to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Skuy Oh great, hang on, I actually haven't ever asked

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<v Speaker 3>you what do you have to do to busters butt

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<v Speaker 3>every week?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need to talk about it. It's such a

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<v Speaker 2>gross topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think a lot of this thing is probably

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<v Speaker 3>more common. You have to express the anal glance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't, Sergeant. I take him to the vet

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<v Speaker 2>and the vet does it? Do you? Yeah? Every week

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<v Speaker 2>you take him to the vet. Every three weeks. I

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<v Speaker 2>take him to the vet butt massage at anal massage.

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<v Speaker 2>He's faking it. What's the attention on that note?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the perfect segue for us to get

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<v Speaker 1>into an episode on kinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's chat to Chantelle on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we have Australia's most well known sex ologist, chanteal Otten,

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about all things to do with kinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Chantelle, welcome to Life on Cut.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, I'm excited to be back. I've missed you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's been about a year or so, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>We had chantal on and it was so much fun

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<v Speaker 3>and if you guys have not listened to that, you

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<v Speaker 3>need to go back. It was very, very eye opening.

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<v Speaker 3>But today is a little bit different. Today we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get kinky.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm excited. Kink is such a good topic.

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<v Speaker 1>So for anyone who doesn't know what is like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it to have a kink? What does it mean

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<v Speaker 1>to have a kink? And is a kink different to

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<v Speaker 1>a fetish?

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<v Speaker 3>There were so many questions in that, Laura, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's start at the top and work our way back.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just get at my thesis. No, So, a

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<v Speaker 4>kink is something that someone likes to do by themselves

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<v Speaker 4>or consentually with a partner or multiple partners, that arouses them,

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<v Speaker 4>that makes them feel you know, turned on, horny, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's considered outside of the mainstream sexual activities, which you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know what really is considered mainstream anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that kinks are becoming much more mainstream, but

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<v Speaker 4>they are a little bit different to fetishes. So a

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<v Speaker 4>fetish is similar to a kink, but the difference is

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<v Speaker 4>that a fetish must be present in order for the

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<v Speaker 4>person to achieve sexual arousal. It has to be there

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<v Speaker 4>in order for them to feel horny and feel turned on.

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<v Speaker 4>A fetish could be something like people's feet, or like

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<v Speaker 4>having sex in public. It could be like wearing a nappy,

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<v Speaker 4>like an adult nappy, that kind of thing, And it's

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<v Speaker 4>important to remember that you have to have it there

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<v Speaker 4>in order for it to be considered a fetish.

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<v Speaker 1>So for somebody who has a fetish, what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>is like they literally wouldn't feel aroused or turned on

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<v Speaker 1>without actually having whatever that fetish is present. But someone

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<v Speaker 1>who has a kink can get off in all different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but they kind of have this one thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>like to.

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<v Speaker 4>Do or multiple things. I mean, you can have a few.

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<v Speaker 4>So kin can be like anything to do with BDSM,

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<v Speaker 4>so bondage, dominance, masochism, saddism. It can be like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>dressing up in a certain outfit or different outfits. It

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<v Speaker 4>could be, you know, spanking each other, or it could be, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>having sex outdoors. It's just a kink. You don't need

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<v Speaker 4>it to be there in order to get aroused, but

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<v Speaker 4>definitely for or someone who has a fetish, they needed

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<v Speaker 4>to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>So you did just say something interesting. You said, kinks

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<v Speaker 3>are starting to become more mainstream.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that is just because we're seeing more speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>About it more. Do you think that this is why more.

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<v Speaker 3>People starting to talk more openly about their personal experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really interesting because for a really long time, topics

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<v Speaker 4>such as kink and fetishes were really not talked about,

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<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't until twenty ten that the World Health

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<v Speaker 4>Organization and the United States basically said that fetishes and

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<v Speaker 4>BDSM were just terms wide umbrella terms for different interests.

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<v Speaker 4>And before that they were considered pathological. You were considered

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<v Speaker 4>to be quite sick if you were engaging with that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people lost jobs for engaging in kink. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>parents were declared unfit to be parents if they were

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<v Speaker 4>talked about engaging in these practices. And I think also

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<v Speaker 4>so like in movies, we really saw that it was

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<v Speaker 4>like the bad guy that had a kink or the

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<v Speaker 4>bad guy that wanted to engage in these kind of practices.

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<v Speaker 4>I think shows like Billions Yes, can show us that.

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<v Speaker 4>I also find that you see that it's usually millionaires

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<v Speaker 4>and billionaires I considered to be like kinky. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>a hidden, dark secret, kind of like fifty shades of gray,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, and then that like cult show where there's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy he's a serial killer, he's like a narcissist,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's engaging in these kind of practices. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>really seen as like this taboothing. I think they're in

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<v Speaker 4>fifty shades of gray. That's when I when I saw

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more people talking about kinks and fetishes, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's where you can see sales from sex toys in

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<v Speaker 4>that area, you know, paddles, whips, handcuffs, et cetera, really increase.

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<v Speaker 4>Now because these products are more available and we are

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<v Speaker 4>talking about them in general, I think that they're becoming

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<v Speaker 4>much more mainstream. In fact, people are just saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I love or I just like to do this. They're

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<v Speaker 4>not even labeling it in a certain way, if that

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<v Speaker 4>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>So was there a big correlation? I mean, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>probably obvious and I should have looked it up. Was

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<v Speaker 3>there a big correlation between sales of these toys after

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<v Speaker 3>fifty Shades of Gray?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So Lohaney has fifty Shades of Gray range and

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<v Speaker 4>Tracy Cox, who wrote fifty Shades of Gray is the

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<v Speaker 4>co owner of that, and it goes incredibly well and.

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<v Speaker 2>Is now a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's fuck lighted. Why didn't we write those books?

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't we lead out dirty Minds? I mean we

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<v Speaker 4>were probably ten women came out or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about the sort of scale of what

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<v Speaker 1>can constitute a kink. You sort of said, you know, spanking,

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<v Speaker 1>on one end of the spectrum, But like, what does

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<v Speaker 1>the scale look like for when we're talking about what

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<v Speaker 1>a kink is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think it's more individualized. So something that

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<v Speaker 4>might be considered really kinky for you might be considered

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<v Speaker 4>super normal for me. So we can't actually put it

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<v Speaker 4>on much of us. We actually just have to look

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<v Speaker 4>at it with more of an open minded curiosity. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that if we were to look at it in

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<v Speaker 4>more of it like a scale type of things, we

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<v Speaker 4>would see things like pain kind of coming up towards

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<v Speaker 4>the higher end of the scale. I would also consider

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<v Speaker 4>things that are illegal to be up that high end

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<v Speaker 4>as well. So these are things that need to be

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<v Speaker 4>very much negotiated so that they don't cross any boundaries

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<v Speaker 4>and that there is consensuality within these practices as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say though, that the king community has the

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<v Speaker 4>best practice of consent that I can see as a

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<v Speaker 4>sex educator, because they know they have to be safe

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<v Speaker 4>with these practices because if they step over the line,

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<v Speaker 4>they can really hurt someone or cause damage as well

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<v Speaker 4>that might be with like choking or spanking, or crossing

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<v Speaker 4>boundaries or creating trauma. So there is a huge amount

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<v Speaker 4>of discussion around consent within these boundaries too.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say something that could be illegal, what us

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<v Speaker 1>some types of kings that maybe really push that end

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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a really good question. For example, when you want

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<v Speaker 4>to display yourself, for example, it's like voyeurism, or you

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<v Speaker 4>want to show off what you're doing from an erotic

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<v Speaker 4>point of view, that might be like touching yourself, and

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<v Speaker 4>it might be in public. For example, I remember being

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<v Speaker 4>really young and a man riding his bike past me

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<v Speaker 4>and stopping and pulling open his jacket and he was

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<v Speaker 4>naked underneath. So that is illegal. You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to engage in an audience of some sort,

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<v Speaker 4>go to a sex party, go to you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>group sex situation where that is appropriate, or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>say to your sexual partner like, hey, just satting you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be in the park at this time.

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<v Speaker 4>You're the only person I'm showing this too, for example.

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<v Speaker 4>But a lot of the times this becomes quite an

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<v Speaker 4>intense feeling for that person that they need to engage

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<v Speaker 4>in this. From this we're talking about like from a

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 4>fetish level, they need to do this. A king is

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<v Speaker 4>more like can they can choose to do it if

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<v Speaker 4>they want to. Another thing that could be illegal is,

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<v Speaker 4>for example, if you have like a little kink, like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you want to wear a nappy, and wearing a

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<v Speaker 4>nappy in front of someone and talking about how you

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<v Speaker 4>like to wear that and how it makes you feel

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<v Speaker 4>can be organized with it like an erotic partner. If

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<v Speaker 4>you try to do it, for example, in a therapy

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<v Speaker 4>session with me, that would be considered illegal because you're

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<v Speaker 4>having a sexual interaction with me and I don't actually

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<v Speaker 4>know that you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you okay?

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<v Speaker 3>How common is it for you as a therapist in

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<v Speaker 3>this industry? How common is it that people come to

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<v Speaker 3>you wanting to explore kings or confused about if they're

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<v Speaker 3>into something and how to go about it. Like for

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<v Speaker 3>all the things people come to see for, what sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a percentage do you think kinks is. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that's a hard one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's hard for me to defind how many. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that It's actually not as high as what I

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<v Speaker 4>usually see because I think people embrace it a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more than not. They don't feel like it's much of

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<v Speaker 4>a problem. People only come to see me when they're

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<v Speaker 4>really distressed or whether they you know, maybe they don't

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 4>know how to tell their sexual partner or be single

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.360
<v Speaker 4>with this kind of kink that they want to practice in.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would say maybe like thirty percent come with

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<v Speaker 4>a specific concern around kink or question, But most of

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<v Speaker 4>my patients like engage in kink anyway, in some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of form, probably usually on the lower scale form. Some

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<v Speaker 4>of them are just coming to negotiate how they feel.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody realizes that they have a kink, that maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that's new to them, or you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a desire that they've had for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't really.

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<v Speaker 2>Explored it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you suggest somebody goes about bringing it up

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<v Speaker 1>with their sexual partner or goes about actually initiating in kink.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I think the first thing that needs to

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<v Speaker 4>happen is there needs to be an understanding of why

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 4>they want to engage in that. You know, what does

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 4>it feel to them, what does it mean to them,

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 4>what does it mean to their imagination, their fantasy they're eroticism,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 4>you know. I think it's also like, is it a

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<v Speaker 4>non negotiable for a lot of people. It's not, But

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<v Speaker 4>for a lot of people as well, they go, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I need my sexual partner to be open to me

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<v Speaker 4>sharing my interest with them, and I think that that's

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<v Speaker 4>really healthy. We cannot expect our sexual partners to immediately

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<v Speaker 4>be accepting off all the things that we want to

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<v Speaker 4>do in the bedroom. We just have to say something

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<v Speaker 4>along the lines of hey, babe, like I want to

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<v Speaker 4>add a little bit of variety into our sex life.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've been thinking I really want to look at

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<v Speaker 4>doing a bit of medisam. I was thinking I'd really

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<v Speaker 4>like if you spanked me a little bit, or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>we could try more anal play or using a strap

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<v Speaker 4>or something. So you bring it up in a light way.

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<v Speaker 4>I tend to encourage people not to do it in

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<v Speaker 4>the bedroom. It's better to do it outside the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe like when you're driving. I think if you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a penis owning partner something or they're like a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit kind of looking out the window, they can own

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<v Speaker 4>off a little bit is good and not like a

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 4>high pressure situation.

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<v Speaker 3>So don't get into the bedroom and just like whip

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<v Speaker 3>out a strap on so surprised we're doing some pegan baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't walk out?

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<v Speaker 4>Would this strap on on? Unless you know your partner's

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<v Speaker 4>into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not run at your partner with a strap on

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<v Speaker 3>under any circumstances.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't just wake them up tap on the shoulder, just

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 4>trap off, rub it on their back. Nah. I think

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 4>it's more like you need to also understand that they

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<v Speaker 4>might be like, oh, and I don't know. Just say

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 4>to them. You don't have to answer me now, but

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 4>I just want you to consider it. And they might

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 4>go okay, well how would that work? And you you

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 4>have to be able to explain or say, I don't know, actually,

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 4>but I saw this post on it, you know, maybe

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 4>on Chintel Speed, or I've read an article about it somewhere,

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 4>or the girls on Life on Cut we're talking about

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 4>it and I'm really interested. And then you can do

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 4>research together and you go slow, you ease into it.

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 4>Don't pretend that you're an expert if you're not, you know,

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 4>make sure that you take your time. And of course

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 4>you have to say how you're going to negotiate boundaries,

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<v Speaker 4>what is the how are you going to express that

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<v Speaker 4>you're consenting, and how are you going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to express or ask for ongoing consent? So it has

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 4>to be touching base. Quite often when you're starting with

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<v Speaker 4>these things. It's only people who are experts that can say, hey, babe,

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 4>like you don't need to you don't need to ask

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>for consent for this, but my safe word is pineapple

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<v Speaker 4>for example. That's when you have to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say, that's where we see in

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<v Speaker 3>like Fifty Shades of Gray. You know, they really drove

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<v Speaker 3>home the consent and the safe word. So do you

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<v Speaker 3>think that's actually a really good idea? That's not something

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<v Speaker 3>for the movies? This safe word? Say it at the start.

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<v Speaker 3>Pick your word, pick your fruit, Pick your poison.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent. Pick your fucking fruit, babe. Pick your fruit.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't have to be plainable, that would per you're not

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 4>going to use it on you, but you have to

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<v Speaker 4>use it to stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but what if in the instance that your kink

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<v Speaker 1>is being gagged and tied and you aren't able to

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>do verbal consent, Well, that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Really thinking this No, it's true, no, no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 4>true true true yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like consent can come in more than

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<v Speaker 1>just a verbal form. So how would you recommend in

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<v Speaker 1>those instances somebody goes around being able to give appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing consent throughout the experience of what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so something like having like a ribbon in your

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<v Speaker 4>hand or being able to wave your hand if you're

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 4>not tied up. If you are trying things like gagging,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't recommend that you go straight into being tied

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<v Speaker 4>up as well. I think you have to go slowly.

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<v Speaker 4>So tied up for maybe put the gag on, but

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<v Speaker 4>then the person who is being dominant has to really

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<v Speaker 4>engage and be very aware of the person's body movements

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 4>if they are gagged, something like pausing and going like

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<v Speaker 4>do you still like this? Like blink or like nod

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<v Speaker 4>your head or something like that. If the person starts

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<v Speaker 4>shaking their head, pulling away, etc. Then it absolutely needs

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<v Speaker 4>to stop. But if you can negotiate some signs where

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, I know, if I want to stop, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be shaking my head because you really can't

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 4>hide like a shaking off the head, then that will

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<v Speaker 4>obviously stop the session or pause the session until the

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 4>person gets more comfortable. You also need to talk a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about after care. What are you going to do

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 4>after you engage in that kink, because after care is

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.959
<v Speaker 4>really important. You don't want to be just you know,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 4>tying someone up gagging them and fucking them and going Okay,

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 4>that was so great. I'm just going to go have

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<v Speaker 4>a shower. Like, you need to make sure that they're okay.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 4>How did it feel for them? Was there anything that

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't feel that comfortable with that they'd like to

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<v Speaker 4>tweak for next time? Did they love it? Can they

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<v Speaker 4>explain their experience to you? Are they willing to try

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 4>more things or different things, et cetera. So you need

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 4>to be able to, you know, have some snuggles if

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 4>that's what you're into afterwards, but definitely some conversations.

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 3>So come back to I mean what we say in

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<v Speaker 3>every single episode of Life Uncut. That's just conversation and

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 3>communication and whatever that looks like, whether that is verbal,

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 3>or whether that is a movement or a ribbon or

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. It's just making sure you set your

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 3>boundaries before you start. What about somebody that wants to

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 3>explore their kinks? Like I feel like what we just

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 3>spoke about is great if you have someone to explore

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 3>that with them that you trust and that you love

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 3>and you're in a safe place. What if you don't

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 3>have a partner that's not even on the radar, You're

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 3>not even dating, but you want to explore that, are

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 3>there places you can go? Are their websites or there

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 3>are orgies and sex clubs, and of course there are

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 3>places like that, but are there really specific I guess

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>organizations and safe places for people that want to explore

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 3>specific kinks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so there's an organization called Curious Creatures in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about Sydney. I will have to check

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<v Speaker 4>up on that. And for the other states and international international,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know like in Amsterdam that there's some

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 4>great clubs and in Berlin, but again I think I

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 4>think going into a situation where you can be taught.

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Curious Creatures they have like workshops where you can go

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 4>and learn how to be dominant or be submissive, or

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<v Speaker 4>learn how to negotiate different styles of kink as well,

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 4>and I think that that's super healthy. You know, also,

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 4>like just engaging with someone like myself is really important,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 4>so you can have a conversation about how you communicate

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 4>that to maybe one night stands or something. You'll be

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 4>surprised how many people can go on a one night

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 4>stand and go hey, like I'm really like I'm a

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 4>bit kinky, and the person will be like cool, like,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 4>let's see how that goes. But I guess the problem

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>as well with one night stand is you don't know

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 4>that person and you don't know if they're going to

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 4>respect your boundaries too. So I think going to workshops

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<v Speaker 4>or clubs is probably a better way to go because

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<v Speaker 4>at least you know that people that you're engaging with

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<v Speaker 4>have practices that are safe. You know they're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to put you in harm's way or in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say to someone who knows that they

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<v Speaker 1>have a kink but feels shameful for it, or still

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>is dealing with the stigma that can surround having a kink?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? So I more say to everyone everyone that you

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.760
<v Speaker 4>can never yuck someone else's young. Something that I find yummy,

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 4>you might not find yummy. You're not going to judge

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 4>me for that. You just have to go cool like

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 4>that shin Tell's preference, And for anyone who's struggling to

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 4>know whether their kink is okay or not, I honestly

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 4>believe that kinks are just normal now, and I think

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 4>that we need to start saying it is about individual practices.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 4>The problem is, we weren't even taught that sex was okay.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 4>For such a long time, we were taught that sex

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<v Speaker 4>is only for marriage and you know, husband and wife,

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 4>and it has to be blah blah blah's you're going

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 4>to get pregnant, et cetera. We were taught fear mongering

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 4>techniques around sex education, and what we need to be

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 4>talking about now is empowering sex positive you know, sexual education,

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 4>and that is the same with kink. In my book,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 4>it's not even seen as a separate practice. It's just

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 4>part of having fun sex. So I really do think

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 4>that if you're struggling to know whether you're normal or not,

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't hide away and sync into that. I would

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 4>train lean into going to places where you can feel normal,

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 4>or going to websites where you can get more education

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 4>about it, or talking to people in sextores about what

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 4>you're feeling, or talking to a therapist. I had a

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 4>patient who really believed that their style of pornography was

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 4>not okay because she's considered quite fem and what she

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 4>was looking at was a bit more hardcore, and I

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 4>was like, it's just your imagination, your creativity. It doesn't

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 4>mean that you want that thing to happen to you

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 4>as well. It's just something that excites you and arouses you.

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 4>And we can also remember things that we find kinking

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 4>or find attractive or arousing. We don't actually have to

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 4>play them out either. We can just watch pornography or

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 4>listen to audio porn around it, or read erotic literature

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 4>around it and find it exciting fantasize.

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to another podcast and one of the girls

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 3>on the podcast was saying that she loves watching lesbian porn,

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>she always has, but she has no interest in being

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 3>with a woman. And she's like, at the start, I

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>couldn't really understand it. I didn't understand why that was

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 3>my jam and that was what I enjoyed watching and

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 3>that's what turned me on when I don't want to

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 3>be with a woman. And she just said, it's just

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 3>because I enjoy watching it's beautiful and it's sensual, and

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 3>it's different to men and women porn. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's sort of just a prime example of that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just every single person is individual, and what gets someone

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 3>going might be different to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important to remember that fantasy can be

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 4>just fantasy. It doesn't have to be reality as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into some of the different types of kings

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and unpack some of the most popular ones, some of

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the more controversial ones. What do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>like the most common kink? What are some of the

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>biggest ones?

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<v Speaker 4>So some of the most common types of kink, I

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<v Speaker 4>would say, I'm going to go through a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more alphabetically, So bondage would be a really good one.

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 4>So forms of restraint. It's pretty self explanatory being tied up.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 4>I also thinks like dominance is super common. So when

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 4>someone wants to be the power person in the bedroom,

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 4>they want to be in control, and there is a

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 4>submissive person, the person that doesn't want to be in control.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 4>It's really interesting because a few years ago I wrote

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 4>an article about this because people were saying, how can

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 4>women who were in these high you know, flying jobs,

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 4>who were celebrities or like CEOs want to be submissive

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 4>in the bedroom? And I was like, because they're just

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 4>in control in every single aspect of their life, Like

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 4>of course they want to be. They want to give

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 4>over the control once in a while.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Like fuck, someone else make the decision. I just don't

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 2>want to do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>You do it, and do it well, please Another one

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 4>is like gagging, so putting something in your mouth, maybe

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 4>it's like a scarf or you know, you can get

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 4>professional gags from sex stores as well. Impact play is

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 4>a really big one as well, so hands, whips, paddles,

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 4>whatever you want, like a spatulage, just something that will

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 4>hit the body and create a bit of an impact.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 4>It can be a soft hit, it can be a

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 4>playful hit, or it can really get into a bit

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 4>more hard hitting as well. I think things like masochism,

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 4>of course, where you are getting pleasure from the kind

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 4>of heightened sensations from sex. You know, pain for example,

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 4>would be a really good one, whether that be physical

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 4>or emotional, is a really popular one.

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 3>In terms of masochism. When you say that that is

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 3>the idea of pain. Is that the person delivering the

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<v Speaker 3>pain that they're getting off on delivering it, or is

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 3>it somebody that gets off on being in pain and

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 3>receiving the.

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Pain, so that's supposedly receiving it most of the time,

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Sadism is when you're inflicting pain on someone else, inflicting

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 4>emotional pain on someone else or physical pain on someone else.

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 4>I think things like role play would be super common,

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 4>like dressing up as a nurse, like doctor and nurse scenario,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 4>like doctor in patient scenario, that kind of thing. I

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 4>think a lot of us have had those kind of

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 4>role play like fantasies to Boston Secretary. I don't know.

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the listeners are into, but I

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 4>always find that role plays a really interesting one.

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Have you role played, Laura? No? Never?

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like also now, like everyone on this podcast

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>knows if my non existent sex life, so no.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Have you. I'm laughing like Chanta.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 3>You probably see that I'm smiling while you're saying this,

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I can't do it. You're supposed to be an actress, Brittany, Yeah,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>but it's yeah. And Hunt said, if it was at

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 3>a film, great, but when I'm giggling.

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 4>You're giggling the whole time.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 3>When you were just saying that when you were talking

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 3>about role play, in my mind, I just tried to

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 3>picture myself doing it, and I started laughing because I

0:39:58.760 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 3>just don't think.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I can do it seriously.

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 3>And that's just me personally, because I'm a little giggle

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 3>machine anyway, So I just think I would just think

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing is so funny.

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think about my own scenario. I'm like, yeah, definitely,

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 4>like a little bit, but I haven't gone as far

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 4>as like dressing up for that kind of thing. It's

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 4>just kind of entered into it. But then, like my

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 4>role play in the past was when I was like, yeah,

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:24.280
<v Speaker 4>maybe actually engaging with a doctor in my old past life,

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 4>like when yeah, when I was sloring around Europe, I think, yeah,

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 4>I think for some people there, really they can really

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 4>get into it and really get creative, and I'm so

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 4>here for that. I think that's amazing. I think things

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 4>like voyeurism is also really popular, where you find it

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 4>pleasurable to watch other people get it on. This is

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 4>one that can also go into that like illegal mode too.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 4>So if you're going around sneaking around and looking in

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 4>people's windows, that's naughty and you shouldn't be doing that.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely not. You know you're talking more about you

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 3>can go to sex clergy and you can watch in

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 3>that capacity.

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred percent.

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's an interesting question though, what like, where

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>does the line you see it look in their window? Laura, No,

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I definitely have no interest in doing that, but where

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>does the line sit in regards to something that can

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>be classified as a kink and something that goes beyond

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 1>that and is actually problematic.

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I think when you're doing things and you can't control

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 4>your urges to do them, that's when it can and

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 4>it's distressing, or it's for you or for other people,

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 4>that's when we consider it a bit more problematic.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about exhibitionism. So I guess voyeurism and exhibitionism

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 3>go hand in hand in a sense, like you would

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 3>those the same people would be at the same sort

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 3>of sex club.

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 4>Maybe? I mean you might actually not want to exhibit

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 4>yourself if you're into watching others actually, so you can

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 4>separate them. Exhibitionism is when you're like showing other people

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 4>how you have sex or how you stimulate yourself and

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 4>you want others to watch. But yeah, sex clubs are

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 4>really wonderful for that, and I think that it's important

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 4>that if any listeners are looking to engage in sex clubs,

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 4>go to nights that are a bit more low key.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 4>For wolve owners. Don't go to like the mixed nights,

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 4>because you end up with like all these penis owners

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 4>and like two volp owners and they're just like standing

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 4>around or watching and touching themselves. I would go to

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 4>like a couple's night like go with a friend or something,

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 4>or go to the fame kind of sex parties as well.

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 4>I think that's really important. Just you also don't have

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 4>to engage the first time you go to a sex club.

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 4>You can just watch as well.

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:37.759
<v Speaker 1>What is I mean, We've got a few of them

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>listed out and we did a bit of a deep

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>dive into like some of the most popular kings. But

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:42.760
<v Speaker 1>what is age play?

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, ah LA's are really good one. So that's

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 4>basically role play where one or both of the partners

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 4>are pretending to be a different age to what they

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 4>actually are. So maybe like younger, like a teenager, you know,

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 4>putting their hair and pigtails or whatever. Or it can

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.280
<v Speaker 4>be like a baby that kind of thing, like daddy

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 4>baby girl that kind of thing. Or it can be

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 4>referring to someone like really old, like like a real zaddy,

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, that kind of thing, like a sugar daddy

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 4>kind of vibes, or like a madame or a mistress

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 4>that kind of thing. So it's just pretending to act

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 4>like someone who is different to your actual age. I

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 4>think can we more see it like on the daddy

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.919
<v Speaker 4>and like the friend of the daughter kind of vibe.

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 4>That's what you're see in a lot of pornography, right,

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.799
<v Speaker 4>like dad walks in on my daughter's friend that kind

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 4>of vibe or something like that.

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Chantell, we have two that we want to finish

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 3>on now. One that I find really interesting and I

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 3>think it's a lot more common than people think. It's

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 3>europhilia or otherwise known as water sports or the golden

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 3>shower or essentially urinating on somebody during sex. Do you

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 3>see water play in your clients a lot more than

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 3>we think.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 4>Actually, it's really interesting, Like I don't think many of

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 4>my patients actually talk about them engaging in that, but

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 4>definitely being out and about and actually speaking to people

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 4>just on a real level, not as their practitioner about

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 4>their sexual preferences. Yeah, like golden showers, peoplay, it is

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 4>super common, and you actually find that a lot of

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 4>males will engage in sex workers to play out those

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 4>fantasies because maybe they can't get them at home, or

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 4>maybe it's not something that they even feel comfortable bringing

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 4>up with their loved person, or maybe they don't want

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 4>to see it from their loved person as well. So yeah,

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 4>we saw it with a I think there was a

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 4>big rumor about the last US president going around and

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 4>really liked that kind of play too. But I think

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 4>that for anyone who does want to engage in it,

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 4>just start slow and try it out in the shower

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 4>so you can wash away any of the evidence. But

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you don't like it, if you don't

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 4>like engaging with it, you don't have to do it.

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 4>But I'm always like, what's the harm in giving it

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 4>a go peplay golden showers? It actually doesn't harm anyone

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 4>unless you feel really ashamed about it afterwards. And I

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't say that it's a problem. It's just going to

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 4>feel a bit weird.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're in sterile anyway, isn't it. I always think like, technically,

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>how the hell does it work? Like you can't be

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>doing it in your bedroom or a mattress. You'd have

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to lay a top hole in down or something like.

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 2>How are people doing this? And then it's like where

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:23.399
<v Speaker 2>is the romance in this?

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>If you're like, hey, honey, I'm just going to go

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>get the top hole in to lay down so that

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't ruin our ten thousand dollars temper mattress. Like,

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I just there has to be some organization to this

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>so we.

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Can have a slip and sliding bed.

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>But you you actually just mentioned something Chanta, which I

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>think is interesting and maybe there is a connection, but

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I kind of would love to unpack what it is

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 1>about this. I feel like with some kinks there is

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a level or and not with all of them by

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>any means, but with some of them there is a

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 1>level of being degraded or feeling like, yeah, I guess

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>like degraded might be the best word for it. Where

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>does the sexual pleasure or arousal come from that.

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 4>Some people really feel like they can get aroused by also,

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 4>like the shameful aspect of that too, like feeling like

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 4>they're being humiliated, the feeling that they're being embarrassed because

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 4>of what they're engaging in. Some people get really turned

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.800
<v Speaker 4>on by that as well. So that is really about

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 4>that masochism kind of point of view too, And I

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 4>think that that's about like the emotional kind of trauma

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 4>that comes into it. But some people just are really

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 4>into it. They find it very sexy to look up

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 4>at their partner urinating on them. You know, or they

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 4>find it very sexy to like be yeah in that

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 4>humiliation pose, if that makes sense. Some people don't find

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 4>it shameful, of course, but you know, for a lot

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 4>of people, it is about that level of humiliation.

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the last ones we wanted to

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>touch on, and this is something that I think would

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>be very common and maybe people don't even know that

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it has a relation to kink. But what is orgasm control?

0:46:58.239 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And can you describe that for me?

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So it's kind of like edging in a way.

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 4>It's where you say to your sexual partner, I'm in

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 4>control now, or maybe if you're masturbating, for example, I'm

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 4>in control now and we are going to I'm going

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 4>to tell you when you can come. You know, I'm

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:16.319
<v Speaker 4>going to build you up and you're not allowed to

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 4>come yet. So if they keep pressing on you, if

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 4>they're like using a vibrator against you, and you're like, oh,

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm literally going to come, like you have to stop it,

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 4>then it doesn't really work. If they play with you

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.240
<v Speaker 4>and bring you up to for example, if your orgasm

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 4>is a ten, they bring you up to maybe an eight,

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 4>and they go, I'm going to hold you there and

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 4>you're like, oh my god, like I want you to finish,

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 4>and they bring it back down to like a five.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 4>So they're going to play with you where they bring

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 4>up your arousal, bring it back down again, bring it up,

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.720
<v Speaker 4>bring it down, and they are in control of that play.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>What if you can't get back from your five to

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 3>your eight and you can do it?

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 2>What if you get stuck there?

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you get stuck there, then it's all over

0:47:55.440 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 4>Red Robot stuck in purgatory. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 4>think that's you know, I think you have to be

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 4>very advanced, like very good at tuning into your partner's

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 4>pleasure if you're engaging in that. I always encourage people

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 4>to listen to my favorite orgasmic meditation, which is by

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 4>a UK guy called Madison James. He does this in

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 4>his orgasmic meditation, so you just you can't see him,

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 4>You just put your headphones in and it goes for

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 4>an hour and basically this edging builds up your orgasm

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 4>to a point where you're going to like, like you

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 4>it's just so intense. I remember when I did it,

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.680
<v Speaker 4>I had an orgasm and I had like electricity running

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.560
<v Speaker 4>from my fingers down to my toes back up to

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 4>like my pulvers, and it was incredible. And for a

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 4>lot of people that feel like they can't orgasm anymore,

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 4>they feel really out of tune with their body, that

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of practice is super helpful. So that's orgasmic meditation

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 4>mixed in with edging and orgasm control.

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 3>So is that something sorry to clarify, is that something

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 3>you do on your own or you could do on

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 3>your owners. That's something that you play with a partner.

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this is main Like this one is for

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 4>a masturbation, so you do it by yourself. But I

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 4>always like to say to people, why don't you get

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 4>your partner to do what he's telling you? So get

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 4>your partner to pretend like they're in the seat there

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 4>if they want a little bit more of a guide

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 4>into orgasm play, it's super helpful. Or your partner can watch,

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 4>or you do it to yourself.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I also like that this because I think that sometimes

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>these things, we have these conversations, and they're so catered

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to people who are in relationships, and that can really

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 1>isolate a huge demographic of people who are single but

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>still have you know, I mean, everybody has their own

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>sexual needs and wants, and I think sometimes when we

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 1>specifically like talking about relationships, it can feel a little

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>bit isolating. So when you say that some of these kinks,

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>in particular orgasm control is something that people can do

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 1>on their own, regardless of whether they have a partner

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>or not, I think that's a really important part of

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:53.720
<v Speaker 1>this conversation as well.

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Absolutely, I think that it's important for people to remember, like,

0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 4>being single can be so much fun too.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>We're both like, yeah, Noddy, well it's a real time

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>of like exploration as well, right, because it's like there's

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>almost no judgment, and I think sometimes when you're in

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a relationship you can become a bit like, well, we

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what to do.

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 2>It's very formulaic, and we just do that.

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:16.800
<v Speaker 4>That's it the sex menu.

0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah absolutely, it's like X y Z it's going to

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>take seven minutes and then we're going to both go

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to bed. Yeah, because we're tired and we have two kids.

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 2>It's going to take three point three minutes.

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 4>And you've got too because I don't have any and

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm it's all good. It's pretty normal. It'll come back.

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess what do you want to say to anybody.

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 3>What message can you tell someone that's listening now They

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 3>either they're thinking about it, or this has excited them

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 3>to try something and this has made them feel like

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 3>they're you know what they're thinking. Isn't that far fetched

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 3>and maybe is accessible for them? What do you want

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.839
<v Speaker 3>to throw out to anyone listening now that really wants

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 3>to go get kinky?

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I think like do your research. Absolutely, have on like,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 4>have a look online for toys if you want to

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 4>bring them into your practice as well. I'll do some shopping.

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Ask your friends, like, be honest. My friends are so

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 4>honest with me, and I know that I'm privileged in

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 4>a very sex positive circle, but I've kind of like

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 4>forced them into this place where they talk about that

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 4>and we just cheer each other on. And I think

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 4>you need to find at least one sex positive friend

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 4>that you can talk about these things with and not

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 4>feel ashamed.

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 2>You need a sex we girl, like, we'll Laura, go

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>for ten minutes, go for eleven time. I'm going to

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>edge myself to fifteen minutes. Guys.

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's like, you know what, we are adults,

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 4>and we are moving towards a more sex positive future

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.799
<v Speaker 4>and that means engaging with people that are going to

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 4>cheat you on as well. No one wants to feel

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 4>ashamed or like they have to hide who they are

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 4>as an erotic being.

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 3>And any resources off the top of your head that

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 3>people could go to like websites.

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so Curious Creatures is a great one. They have

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 4>some great articles on the blog on love Honey and

0:51:56.719 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 4>some great episodes from like doms on their from sex

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 4>workers etc. Of course, like I have a lot on

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 4>my Instagram and there's so many sexologists in Australia who

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 4>have great resources too. I'm trying to think as well.

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I think like start with reading things like fifty Shades

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 4>of Gray, start with watching shows where that is also depicted.

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 4>There are so many kinky shows like Eyes Wide Shut.

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 4>I've never watched that and I'm dying to watch it

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 4>now because I know one of my team members was

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 4>watching it this week and she was like, it was

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 4>so before it's time, and it was so controversial because

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 4>no one was talking about kink back then. So there

0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 4>are lots of shows where it is depicted too, and

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.320
<v Speaker 4>if you can just ease into it and become acclimatized

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 4>to watching it, it'll become more normal for you and

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 4>you will feel a lot more empowered discussing it.

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 3>And where can people find Ji Chantel and your book.

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Tell us about your book.

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, the sex ad you never had. So basically

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 4>we're covering kink and they're recovering videos and it's talking

0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 4>about all the things that we didn't learn in sex ed.

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I didn't have sex at a lot

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:03.719
<v Speaker 4>of my patients come in and they didn't have it.

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 4>I think that this age range, we were definitely taught

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot about like safe sex, whereas you know, we

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 4>weren't taught a lot about pleasure, and I think we

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 4>need to talk about that a lot more so. I

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 4>wrote this book for everyone and you can find me

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 4>at Chantel Underscore Otten Underscore Sex Solo Chests on Instagram.

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Legend.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 3>It was so good to have you back on Life

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 3>on cart and we hope.

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 2>To have you back again.

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Sue, thanks for having me so.

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<v Speaker 3>On this episode today. We wanted to speak to somebody

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 3>that has.

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>A kink of their own.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.920
<v Speaker 3>We didn't really care what kink it was. It's just

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 3>that Laura and I personally, well we don't have one,

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 3>but we thought it was really important to speak to

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 3>a listener, a Life on Cut listener.

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 2>So we have one of.

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Our beautiful life is NICKI joining us today and Nikki

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.480
<v Speaker 3>we put the call out. We're like, hey, if anyone's

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.720
<v Speaker 3>got some kinks, slide on into our dms. And Nikki,

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 3>you did come sliding. So welcome to Life on Cut.

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, guys, pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Nikki, can you explain? I mean, first thing I

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 1>put okay, I'm I don't even know where to start

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 1>because I have so many questions.

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Can I firstly tell me, let's start at the top.

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 2>What is your kink?

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 5>So my kink is I used to call it a

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 5>pee fetish, but it's actually it can be called a

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 5>pee kink.

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>So like we're talking water sports. And when you say

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you have a pe kink or a pea fetish in

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 1>what capacity? Like what does that look like for you?

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 5>So it's basically below the head. So I love anything

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:31.359
<v Speaker 5>to do with it. I love watching guys, I love

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 5>the sound of it. I love well this is the

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.319
<v Speaker 5>one that shops people. I love being peeved inside of that.

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 5>So the main thing is for me as well, is

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 5>the desperation when it comes to pay, Like, that's what

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 5>really gets me.

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by that? What do you mean

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 2>by the desperation as in from the other person?

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, So it's about the guy when he needs

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:56.919
<v Speaker 5>to pay. It's like that moments like I just want

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 5>him to be desperate and that's what really gets me.

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 3>So do you in terms of the desperation do you

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 3>like is it a control thing like you want to say,

0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:06.880
<v Speaker 3>like orgasm control? Is it you saying to him you

0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 3>can't go yet, like making him until he's like, my

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.240
<v Speaker 3>bladder is about to burst. So is that you saying

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 3>when he can and can't urinate?

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 5>It's similar. Yeah. So back in twenty seventeen, which is

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 5>when I discovered this, I was with a partner and

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 5>that's when he needed to pay when we're having sex,

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 5>and I sort of played around with that and I

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 5>really liked that he needed to and I was telling him, no,

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:30.720
<v Speaker 5>you're not allowed to, and I so would pressed against

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 5>his ladder and that was really turning me on. And

0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 5>I think he also discovered that it was turning him

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 5>on as well, so he'd play around with me.

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 2>For those plane at home.

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Let's just go back to the start. It's also called europhilia.

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.719
<v Speaker 3>That is the official terminology, Is that correctnickire?

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:50.479
<v Speaker 3>And then colloquialisms are like water sports or I guess

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 3>peplay Like you said so twenty seventeen, before twenty seventeen,

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 3>when you discovered this, I guess accidentally, were there anything

0:55:58.640 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 3>else you were interested in?

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Was there any other kink?

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Or is this really you just went zero to one

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.799
<v Speaker 3>hundred pretty quickly and it was all coincidentally.

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I've always been a bit kinky with exhibitionism

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:13.399
<v Speaker 5>and wanting to have sex outside and in really you're

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 5>crazy places. In terms of that, yes, but with in

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 5>terms of the peplay, that is something that I'd only

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 5>discovered later on in life.

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like this conversation in that I think

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people, they have a fantasy and

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 1>then it's wanting to then enact out that fantasy. But

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>almost like discovering a kink and not knowing that it

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.120
<v Speaker 1>was necessarily there before, just because of something that's happened

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>during a sexual experience. I hadn't really fully thought or

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.879
<v Speaker 1>realized that this is something or how a kink could

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 1>be created. You know, when we sit here and say, well,

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a kink right now. I like the

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>idea that, oh but maybe I could and I just

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't discovered it yet.

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's just over the horizon.

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.400
<v Speaker 1>So talk to me, Nikki. How do you bring it

0:56:52.480 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>up with new sexual partners?

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 5>So that was a while ago, so I've had a

0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:00.040
<v Speaker 5>few since then. I've had a couple of relationships. But

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:02.799
<v Speaker 5>it's been interesting between you know, being single and being

0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 5>a relationship because I have no shame around it, So

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 5>I bring it up with guys as soon as I

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 5>feel you know, culped with them, or I feel like

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:12.960
<v Speaker 5>they're you know, the kind of person that will have

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 5>the maturity level to handle it. I have no qualms

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 5>in bringing it up. And there's so many guys that.

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:22.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, people's reactions who have not experienced it before

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.439
<v Speaker 5>are just first of all, if they're shocked, but then

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.920
<v Speaker 5>it's really interesting to them. And of course, you know,

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to it, when you're being the partner,

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 5>they want you to be turned on, so they're turned

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:35.439
<v Speaker 5>on by that as well.

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm like Laura, now, I's like my brain was

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.960
<v Speaker 3>just going, I have fifty thousand questions where do I start? Okay,

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 3>So does this kink for you playing to just you

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 3>controlling when they can urinate, or do you also get

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 3>off on you urinating on them as well? So does

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 3>it go both ways? And is it just any sort

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 3>of water play at all or is it just very specific?

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:57.479
<v Speaker 5>So of course it has to be blow the head.

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 5>But I haven't had many guys that have wanted me

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.280
<v Speaker 5>to pee on them. I'm definitely interested in that. That

0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 5>does turn me on the idea of it, but mostly

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 5>in my experience has been with guys and they've either

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 5>peed on me or I've helped them while they've peed

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:18.480
<v Speaker 5>and I've held their penises. That my favorite is being

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.760
<v Speaker 5>p inside of that they are a whole. Like the

0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.560
<v Speaker 5>feeling of it is just like anything to do with

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 5>because obviously I love common and it's just like both

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 5>of them the same, it's just more of it.

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Is this something as well? Do you think that there's

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a powerplay element into this, like a sense of having

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 1>power over the other person when you talk about desperation.

0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Are these things linked for you at all?

0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 5>I definitely like being in control, so that definitely it

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 5>makes me feel powerful as a woman and that is

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 5>sexy to me, so definitely. But I think the desperation

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 5>is more so just it is just desperation. It's like

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 5>it's that's that kink for me. It just turns me

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 5>on at that person so desperate to pay, and then

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 5>there is that level of control as well, and then

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 5>when it finally is released, it's like, oh wow.

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk logistics for a hot second. When you finally

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 3>say yes, you can pee inside me right now? Is

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 3>that because you're at climax? And do you come in

0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 3>that moment? And then for him, I'm going to imagine

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 3>you cannot pay and come simultaneously, So I guess that's

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 3>for I guess he's doing that purely for you to

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 3>climax and then you can continue to deal with him after.

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Is that right exactly? So that's what it's insane. There's

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 5>only been a couple of guys in my life who've

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 5>actually been able to do this, and it is a

0:59:39.320 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 5>very hard thing to do. It takes a lot of practice,

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 5>and it's funny like a lot of guys try really

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 5>really hard and like they're just lying there and we're

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 5>just sort of everything still, like they're trying really hard

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 5>to just like concentrate to pay.

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I am losing my momentum here.

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Buddy, But also there would be some desperation in that

0:59:57.320 --> 1:00:00.520
<v Speaker 1>as well, in the like trying to do it, maybe

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>not being able to quite get the stage.

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Fright.

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's sexy as hell, like because you just know

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:07.240
<v Speaker 5>they're really trying. You just like you want to kind

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:09.280
<v Speaker 5>of encourage and be like, you know, it's good, Like

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:12.360
<v Speaker 5>it's good. I'm loving this, and I am because it's

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 5>really intimate and they're really trying. Even when I'm not

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.560
<v Speaker 5>a relationship with someone, it's just a really cool thing

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 5>to do to share with them.

1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Logistics number two, and this is something that we

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:24.520
<v Speaker 3>had a joke about. Obviously we're not joking about the Kings,

1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:27.080
<v Speaker 3>but we did have this joke with Chantell. Do you

1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 3>actually have to I mean, I guess it's forethought because

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:31.800
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna want urine to go all over your bed.

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:33.960
<v Speaker 3>So do you plan that this is going to be

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:35.439
<v Speaker 3>an event so you can put something on the bed.

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Is it something that you'd say, hey, let's just like

1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 3>have sex in a shower or a bath or do

1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 3>you sort of say just throw the machus out?

1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Do you just be like rip their clothes off and

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:44.800
<v Speaker 3>be like whatever?

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Happens, happens. I've got a really good matchress protector. Let's go.

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Because we were sort of thinking that, like, you know,

1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:51.120
<v Speaker 3>you're going to put like a tarp hoolan down or something.

1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And that's the thing we talked about when I

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:56.080
<v Speaker 5>was in a partnership with a guy, is that we

1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.520
<v Speaker 5>talked about the logistics and we thought about, you know,

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 5>maybe we should get something just protect the red top

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 5>hole in. But when you're in the moment, I mean,

1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:05.680
<v Speaker 5>it's great to be in a hotel. There has I've

1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:09.840
<v Speaker 5>been my last partner. We went into a hotel and

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:13.439
<v Speaker 5>we just use a holy hotels and and I'm kind

1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.280
<v Speaker 5>of like it wasn't amazing afterwards, but you're just so

1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:18.680
<v Speaker 5>in the moment and like you do have to sleep

1:01:18.680 --> 1:01:19.800
<v Speaker 5>in a bit of pea in the bed.

1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:23.240
<v Speaker 1>But I just feel like, oh, price, the pay, this

1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:25.640
<v Speaker 1>is somebody else's problem exactly.

1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:28.360
<v Speaker 5>But there is one guy who I was seeing for

1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:30.760
<v Speaker 5>a little bit. He was amazing. He was so open

1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 5>and we were just in his house obviously alone, and

1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:36.640
<v Speaker 5>we're in his kitchen and I just asked him to

1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:38.480
<v Speaker 5>pay and me in his kitchen and he did. He

1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 5>just like got his finers out started peeing on me

1:01:41.480 --> 1:01:44.280
<v Speaker 5>on my vagina, and it was great. I still think

1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:47.240
<v Speaker 5>about that moment. It was so good. And also when

1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:49.320
<v Speaker 5>you're sitting on a toilet as well, when I'm sitting

1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:51.400
<v Speaker 5>in a toilet, BA can also pee on me that.

1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm so fascinated.

1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I like this idea that this is like

1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:59.200
<v Speaker 1>something that's escalated, like it's become part of your sexual

1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:01.280
<v Speaker 1>experience off the back of like I said earlier, like

1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.280
<v Speaker 1>off the back of almost like a coincidental or a

1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:09.160
<v Speaker 1>happen chance. You're very very open about speaking about your kings,

1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 1>about talking about your sexual experiences. Have you had these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with like your friends and your family, like what

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<v Speaker 1>has been the common reaction to talking about kings not

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<v Speaker 1>just with sexual partners, but with other people who you're

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<v Speaker 1>close with.

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<v Speaker 5>So I have been very open, and it's funny. There

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<v Speaker 5>are a lot of people in my life who are

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<v Speaker 5>very closely who I would talk you know, they know

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<v Speaker 5>all about it. And when I told them I was

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<v Speaker 5>going on this podcast, like, oh my god, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 5>because I know all about it, and other people are like,

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<v Speaker 5>hang on second, what you have a pee fetish? What's

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<v Speaker 5>what's this?

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<v Speaker 3>And you're going to tell all of Australia about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly like I am, because there is absolutely zero shame.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's a lot of things I have a shamed

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<v Speaker 5>about inside of myself, but to do with this, absolutely none.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just so funny. It gives me so much pleasure

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<v Speaker 5>and what there's nothing wrong with it. But with my

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<v Speaker 5>family from the get go, I've up with a very

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<v Speaker 5>open family. Like my parents will always talk about sex

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<v Speaker 5>and I'll be cooking on the kitchen bench and Mom

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<v Speaker 5>would say, oh, you know, with my father and I

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<v Speaker 5>had sex and that on that kitchen benchhit last night

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<v Speaker 5>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, Mum, at least let me put a chopping

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<v Speaker 2>board down.

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<v Speaker 5>Then exactly, you know, I knew how it was made

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<v Speaker 5>in the bus and all that sort of thing. So

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's why I'm fine with that. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>my brothers who are like ten years younger than me,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that people have to have a certain

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<v Speaker 5>level of maturity when you're telling them.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that you said too, that you have no

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<v Speaker 3>shame about it, and nor should you. But the reason

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<v Speaker 3>we want to have these conversations is because we don't

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<v Speaker 3>want anyone out there listening to be shameful of anything

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<v Speaker 3>that they enjoy or any kinks that they have, or

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<v Speaker 3>anything that they want to experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Or that they want to try.

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<v Speaker 3>We literally want people like you to say, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I do this all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of how many people are going to be listening

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<v Speaker 3>to this right now saying, oh my gosh, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was the only one. And that is because people

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<v Speaker 3>don't talk about it, which is why we wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>give you a platform now to be so open about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And also on top of it, it's like, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not hurting anyone, who fucking cares?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think like we are the only ones who feel

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<v Speaker 1>shame and that there's it's stigmatized. It's obviously there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much around kinks that stigmatized because of the way society

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<v Speaker 1>has viewed them over time, But like, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>hurting anyone, I just don't see what the big problem

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<v Speaker 1>is and what the big deal about talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is. And for us, from speaking to Chantel, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very eye opening and interesting how much people's perceptions

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<v Speaker 1>are changing, but also just how much more open people

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<v Speaker 1>are being in general, which Nikki, like, we're very, very

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for you to come and speak about this.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Reactions for people that you've dated or slept with in

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<v Speaker 3>the past. So, I know we touched on it earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>but have there ever been any like quite adverse reactions

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<v Speaker 3>where someone has just been like, no way, I am

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<v Speaker 3>not doing that, or have most people been really open

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<v Speaker 3>to the idea straight away? Because I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of our community, I think a lot of the stress

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<v Speaker 3>that they would feel when they want to explore their

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<v Speaker 3>kinks is the way they're going to be received when

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<v Speaker 3>they ask a new partner or even a long term partner.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really that visceral reaction of are they going to

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm crazy? Are they going to want to break

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<v Speaker 3>up with me? Are they going to want to explore it?

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess what are the general reactions.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the majority of people have been great, And I

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<v Speaker 5>think though it's because of the guys that I choose

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<v Speaker 5>to be with as well. I choose to be with

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<v Speaker 5>people who are open minded, so I think that definitely

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<v Speaker 5>has something to do with it. And also I think

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<v Speaker 5>we should about the app as well that I've been

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<v Speaker 5>on when I've been single called Field, and that has

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<v Speaker 5>opened me up to so many like minded people and

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<v Speaker 5>so the conversation has been really easy, but there have

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<v Speaker 5>been one or two that have course gone that's not

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<v Speaker 5>something I'm comfortable with, and it's like picking cool like

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<v Speaker 5>because I've done that before too. Like people have said

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<v Speaker 5>to me, you know, kinks that they're wanting to explore,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, it's up to you as to whether

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<v Speaker 5>you want to do it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>What is Field?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk to me about this app? And how

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<v Speaker 1>if you do have a kink or it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you're wanting to explore, how you can find people who

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<v Speaker 1>might have something similar or maybe looking for a similar

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<v Speaker 1>type of kink to you.

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<v Speaker 5>So Field is like a dating app, but it's full

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<v Speaker 5>of people who are who are like me, who have kinks,

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<v Speaker 5>and it is such an open minded community of people

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<v Speaker 5>that it was like I felt like I was being

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<v Speaker 5>seen for the first time with people that because a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of the people that I tell have absolutely no

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<v Speaker 5>idea about kinks and they're you know, especially when I

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<v Speaker 5>talked to them about being peed inside of that just

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<v Speaker 5>blows their mind. Because people who have been you know,

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<v Speaker 5>heard of water spots and pea fetishes and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>But this app brought so many people into my life.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, people they are wanting to have freesomes, who

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<v Speaker 5>like couples that are wanting to bring someone else into

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<v Speaker 5>their relationship, or gang bangs or pe fetishes, things like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it blew my mind and it was so enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it work like a normal dating app? Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about the way Hinge or Tinder or like

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<v Speaker 1>what sets it apart? Or are people very specific on

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<v Speaker 1>their profiles in regards to what kinks they have?

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<v Speaker 5>So their profile, Well, everyone's on there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>anyone's on there for a relationship. People are on there

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<v Speaker 5>to explore their sexuality. And people will say on the

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<v Speaker 5>app on their profile these the kinks tun into and

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<v Speaker 5>they have the first questions when you're saying it up,

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<v Speaker 5>are you know what are you into? And you know

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<v Speaker 5>what's your sexuality and all that sort of thing, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's just very open. And because I'm such an open person,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just like, Wow, there are people like me

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<v Speaker 5>out there because you know, there's no secrets, like this

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<v Speaker 5>is what I want? Do you want that? And then

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<v Speaker 5>you know you meet up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like our younger generation listening won't remember this. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like when you're on MSN, remember asl hex location,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're like aslk HX location.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinks. I knew that none of the young kids are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to be above. Have you wound back

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<v Speaker 2>your cassette tapes with pencil?

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<v Speaker 3>Then you may know what that is if we can

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<v Speaker 3>ask you well, because I just feel like we may

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<v Speaker 3>have just hit the jackpot with you, because we just

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<v Speaker 3>thought we were going to be able to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>one kin. But you mentioned exhibitionism before, and you mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>that you have done a lot of other things that

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<v Speaker 3>have come being on this app.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the other kinks?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you tried other things with other people or are

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<v Speaker 3>you mainly just saying like, hey, I'm just on there

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<v Speaker 3>from my thing. I don't want to try anything else.

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<v Speaker 5>I have definitely, I definitely want a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 5>and I feel like it's like this box, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>these boxes that I want to tick, and a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of them is you know, I have for thing about

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<v Speaker 5>joining another couple or actually one of the chandel Art

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<v Speaker 5>and her sex stories is someone watching another couple has

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<v Speaker 5>sex and I want someone to watch me while I'm

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<v Speaker 5>having sex like that turns me on a lot, or

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<v Speaker 5>potentially than coming in and being and joining someone else

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<v Speaker 5>as well. But in terms of exhibitionism, I just the

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<v Speaker 5>idea of getting caught, not the reality of it, just

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<v Speaker 5>the idea that turns me on.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you okay? Where is not?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I don't actually want to be caught by

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<v Speaker 1>a police officer in a bush, but like the like

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<v Speaker 1>the suspense, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess like, don't actually find me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that because obviously there's that heightened arousal that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the the suspense or the naughtiness of it, the

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden fruit. Basically, I mean that's the whole big premise

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<v Speaker 1>of where Kings came from. It's because it's what's seemed

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<v Speaker 1>us taboo. It's what seemed is what was not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing. And there's something very like sexually alluring

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<v Speaker 1>from that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>And have you ever actually been caught or have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever been pretty close?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Actually I have been caught. So it was a bust

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<v Speaker 5>of mine. Actually who caught me? Caught my boyfriend going

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<v Speaker 5>down in me on a boat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a buff like it was he was looking

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<v Speaker 5>down the window up above, and obviously we didn't quite

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<v Speaker 5>think about that aspect. So he's actually very he's very

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<v Speaker 5>cool and we're still friends now. So yeah, it was fine,

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<v Speaker 5>fucking great.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you need a BAC. I'm giving you the

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<v Speaker 3>day off, Nikki.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you in regards to if

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<v Speaker 1>there's someone listening who has a kink themselves and they

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<v Speaker 1>do feel shame well, they don't know how to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up with someone, what advice would you have for them.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's funny because I feel at a zero shame

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<v Speaker 5>run and I don't think I ever have had shame

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<v Speaker 5>around it. But I think just by if you feel

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<v Speaker 5>like you're in a safe space safe for example, it's

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<v Speaker 5>with your boyfriend or whoever it is, it's just just

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<v Speaker 5>being really open and honest with them and trying not

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<v Speaker 5>to make it about that there's something wrong with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Like if they say no, then that's what they're comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not anything to do with your kink, And there's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing because I have a big thing about there's nothing

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<v Speaker 5>wrong with you. It's just what you like. It's just

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<v Speaker 5>what turns you on and You're not the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on the pod, for

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<v Speaker 1>being just so vulnerable. I know you say that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no shame and you have no issues with talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think for the most part, you're a realiatively

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<v Speaker 1>rare breed. I think a lot of people have kinks,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people don't feel comfortable sharing those

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<v Speaker 1>kinks on a public platform. And I love that you

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<v Speaker 1>had zero reservations in doing that. We love that you're

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<v Speaker 1>part of the community, and we really love that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to share this with everybody else as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, Laura and Britt. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 5>such a pleasure to be on here. I was very

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<v Speaker 5>excited to share and absolutely had no reservations about it

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<v Speaker 5>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we never end an episode without our

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<v Speaker 3>suck and our sweet, our highlight and our lowlight of

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<v Speaker 3>the week, and man, I have a low light for

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<v Speaker 3>this week. But Laura, you can go first. What is

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<v Speaker 3>your suck?

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<v Speaker 2>So Mi, Oh, it's suck first always? Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>my so surprises you after two hundred and eleven episodes

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<v Speaker 2>because I like.

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<v Speaker 1>To think positively and I just get I'm always there

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<v Speaker 1>for what's been good in the week, not there for

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<v Speaker 1>what's been bad in the week.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like when you eat a meal out at

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<v Speaker 3>a restaurant, there's multiple things on your plate.

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<v Speaker 2>You save the best for last. You always save that

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<v Speaker 2>one mouthful.

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<v Speaker 3>It is like the most epic, tasty, delicious mouthful.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why I don't do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I eat the best bit and save the worst for last,

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<v Speaker 1>because you get full. No, Because growing up, my dad

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<v Speaker 1>would always leave what was left on that So if

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<v Speaker 1>I had purposely sept something like if I put something

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<v Speaker 1>to the side on my plate, you'd eat it. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad would be like, oh, you're not eating that, lean

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<v Speaker 1>overneat it. The amount of times I cried in a

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant as a child because my dad ate the thing

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<v Speaker 1>I was saving traumatized. Okay, so my suck for the

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<v Speaker 1>week is that we went out. Okay, guys, Finally, this

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<v Speaker 1>week Britta and I had a awesome time. We went

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<v Speaker 1>out on a boat on Saturday. We really had such

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<v Speaker 1>a great time together. When you confirs and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>far and few between when we actually get to go

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<v Speaker 1>outside and do something without the kids, without work, just

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying ourselves, I don't actually think we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever both been out where we've been drinking and just

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<v Speaker 3>having fun like we've both we've done lunches quickly here

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<v Speaker 3>and there, or like a brunch or something, but nothing

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<v Speaker 3>that was just like actual relaxation.

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<v Speaker 2>Having a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you say that, she means relaxation that's also

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<v Speaker 1>unwork related. We've been out through a work lunch before,

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<v Speaker 1>shared it all on social media, but we've never really

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<v Speaker 1>just been able to hang out and have a few

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<v Speaker 1>drinks together as friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not actually friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking crazy, doesn't it like in two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>years of doing this pod, we've never gone out and

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<v Speaker 1>just had drinks together.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany, And do you keep pro creating?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's because I have kids, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a we are of in very different phases of life.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also we had an awesome, awesome time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Sucks though.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wore this white dress on the boat, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have had for a couple of years. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a new dress, but it was the first time I've

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<v Speaker 1>worn it, and I managed to get through a whole

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<v Speaker 1>day of drinking of partying and I didn't get it

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<v Speaker 1>dirty and so I was like, you know what, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clean, but I'll give it a quick wash, a

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<v Speaker 1>hand wash, and I'll hang it out so I can

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<v Speaker 1>take it on this holiday with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hung it out on the line, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking birds have shat mulberry shit all over my white dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Sang, what how do you know it's moulbrew shit? How

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<v Speaker 2>do you know? It's just not a mulbery?

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<v Speaker 1>So the neighbors have a mulberry tree, like like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the neighbor that like a couple of streets down

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<v Speaker 1>there's a mulberry tree and it's you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like when it's like splattered from the sky

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<v Speaker 1>all over my dress, all over the patio, there's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>mulbrew shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyway, so that's my suck.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's going to sing right that doesn't come out? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's done, it's done it Yeah, forever throw it on

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<v Speaker 1>the bin. Okay, the end turns turn into some rags.

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<v Speaker 3>You could you cut it off and make a mini dress.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on the top part o. Can't make a skirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It is as well as a way, Laura, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>my sweet for the week is obviously that we got

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<v Speaker 1>to go out on this boat and have a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>But my sweet is that for once, Britney Hockley was

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<v Speaker 1>the drunk one at the party. Not only was she

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<v Speaker 1>the drunk one we got off the boat, we were

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a whole lot of people and the

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<v Speaker 1>song let's get down, Let's get down to be business

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<v Speaker 1>and instead of like dancing and smacking my ass, Britt

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<v Speaker 1>decided to dance and smack my vagina really really publicly

1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:40.880
<v Speaker 1>in front of everyone, whilst I was like, I'm going home,

1:14:41.000 --> 1:14:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and Britt was like, come.

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<v Speaker 3>Pty, you are making this sound way worse than it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so fun seeing you lit city girl. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's just seguey straight into my suck.

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<v Speaker 2>My suck was that I was lit City.

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<v Speaker 1>I went all the way, all the way, all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can we tell them where you ended up?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>I went all the way to Holly in Jimmy's house

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<v Speaker 3>from The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that happened. I created a.

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<v Speaker 1>Party there because there wasn't a party. She made Holly

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<v Speaker 1>make her a cheese platter.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just you know, when you've been drinking. And

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<v Speaker 3>I actually for those playing at home. I am not

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<v Speaker 3>a big drinker. I don't drink a lot, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is why this happened so rapidly. I was

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<v Speaker 3>having a great time, but I was obviously in the

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<v Speaker 3>sun all day, the drinks were flowing.

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<v Speaker 2>It hit me like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Ton of bricks. I well, obviously it hit me earlier

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<v Speaker 3>when I was slapping you.

1:15:34.720 --> 1:15:37.839
<v Speaker 2>But I got to only were riding me like a rodeo.

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<v Speaker 2>Love me. It just means I feel safe with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to Holley in Jimmy's and it just hit

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<v Speaker 3>me like a ton of bricks and I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>I need some food. And I didn't say it so

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<v Speaker 3>probably politely, but I made Holly make me a cheese platter.

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<v Speaker 3>She made me a whole platter, and I just sat

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<v Speaker 3>there and annihilated the platter, kept drinking. They were getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go out. I was going out too. I

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<v Speaker 3>had message produce a key show and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you're I'm going out to Bonta.

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<v Speaker 3>I meet me there and she's like, okay, I'm poor Keisha, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just having a shower.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the whole thing up. And then it just hit me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sitting at the table where I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to go. They were like, no, it's okay,

1:16:13.760 --> 1:16:15.439
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, no, you don't understand. I need to go.

1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:17.439
<v Speaker 3>And you know when you get that wave of nausea,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I have minutes. I called myself an uber.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked downstairs.

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<v Speaker 3>The uber pulled up and I couldn't even get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just started to vomit in Jimmy and Holly's garden.

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<v Speaker 1>This is absolutely ending up on Daily Mail. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot believe that you stood up produce a Keisha. This

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<v Speaker 1>is all wild.

1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Well I didn't stand her up.

1:16:33.160 --> 1:16:35.360
<v Speaker 3>I then message her again, which I feel like I'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to go back to the message and look at

1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:39.400
<v Speaker 3>the timeline, and I was like, bro, this is I'm cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at home passing.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not ending well. I can't meet you out

1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:44.680
<v Speaker 3>and I couldn't go. I physically it just hit me

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<v Speaker 3>so quickly. Now I would like to go back and

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<v Speaker 3>just clarify because Holleen Jimmy might hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they will. The moment was cute. It was a

1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:55.120
<v Speaker 2>little and cute. It was like it was like a

1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:56.040
<v Speaker 2>little la blap.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't hectic, it was one and then I just

1:16:57.920 --> 1:16:59.880
<v Speaker 3>felt so much better. It was almost just like an

1:17:00.040 --> 1:17:02.160
<v Speaker 3>had too much alcohol in there, and I had.

1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Mixed drinks a little bit. My body was like, just

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<v Speaker 2>get that out and get on with it.

1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:08.519
<v Speaker 3>So it was like one cutest, like the cutest little

1:17:08.560 --> 1:17:09.439
<v Speaker 3>voment you've ever seen.

1:17:09.520 --> 1:17:13.960
<v Speaker 2>It's horrible. Yeah, it was adorable. Name Yeah, Frankie. Okay,

1:17:14.360 --> 1:17:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say one thing.

1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Obviously everyone is going to be not everyone, but majority

1:17:18.240 --> 1:17:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of us are going out and enjoying having good time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Christmas. Drink responsibily, guys. This is your warning.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not us condoning this behavior. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>this is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't do it very often, but every so often

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you get a little litty, a little litacy.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not Just to also clarify, clarify, clarify, I

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<v Speaker 3>have not vomited in like six or seven years.

1:17:38.240 --> 1:17:39.960
<v Speaker 2>This isn't a thing I do. I don't binge drink.

1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I was just dehydrated and hot,

1:17:42.200 --> 1:17:44.920
<v Speaker 3>but I do want to really stress drinking responsibly.

1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:47.320
<v Speaker 2>But that was my story. I cannot deny that it happened.

1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I am mortified, so mortified that I felt I needed

1:17:50.200 --> 1:17:51.479
<v Speaker 3>to tell Australia on the podcast.

1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to see the article tomorrow. I reckon

1:17:54.320 --> 1:17:55.479
<v Speaker 1>that this is probably going to come out like a

1:17:55.520 --> 1:17:58.000
<v Speaker 1>day before Christmas. Imagine that few Christmas present pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Voments in Holly and Jimmy's front.

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<v Speaker 3>Ur definitely is behind a bush, definitely definitely had food

1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:06.120
<v Speaker 3>poisoning from the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta love it whenever anyone has a bit

1:18:08.640 --> 1:18:10.280
<v Speaker 1>too much to drink. And then the next day they

1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:12.120
<v Speaker 1>hungover and they say, oh, I think it was the

1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:12.639
<v Speaker 1>hot dog.

1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:14.800
<v Speaker 2>No it wasn't. We all know it wasn't. I had

1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of raw I had a raw fish it

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<v Speaker 2>was and a bit warm.

1:18:18.880 --> 1:18:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Weren't they warm raw fish? If that was what it was?

1:18:21.280 --> 1:18:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't have any of the oysters.

1:18:22.920 --> 1:18:24.040
<v Speaker 3>It was probably the os.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, your sweet for the week, my sweet?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Because we're wrapping up the year, I have to say

1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:34.760
<v Speaker 3>that my sweet is the overall year long ranker for

1:18:34.800 --> 1:18:38.880
<v Speaker 3>the podcast came out, guys, and we are sitting at

1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:41.320
<v Speaker 3>the number one female podcast overall.

1:18:41.439 --> 1:18:49.120
<v Speaker 2>So Laura and I I just we're just what shots

1:18:49.120 --> 1:18:50.439
<v Speaker 2>are fired. We're just so.

1:18:50.479 --> 1:18:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Stoked and we literally couldn't do it without you. And

1:18:52.320 --> 1:18:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I know we've said this before, but it will never

1:18:54.439 --> 1:18:56.880
<v Speaker 3>get old. We cannot say it enough, we cannot stress

1:18:56.880 --> 1:18:59.559
<v Speaker 3>it enough. We are only here every week because of you, guys,

1:18:59.640 --> 1:19:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and we love that you turn up and you listen

1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:04.800
<v Speaker 3>to our shit and you take our advice. Sorry, we

1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:06.559
<v Speaker 3>have to start putting some disclaimers in. You can't take

1:19:06.600 --> 1:19:08.639
<v Speaker 3>all of our advice, but we do try, really really hard.

1:19:08.680 --> 1:19:09.360
<v Speaker 2>We really do.

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<v Speaker 1>And also not just the fact that you guys show

1:19:11.920 --> 1:19:13.640
<v Speaker 1>up here for us to listen to the podcast, but

1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that you show up for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's the thing that I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so incredible about this community, the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big group of a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that sometimes shit goes down and we do

1:19:23.200 --> 1:19:27.120
<v Speaker 1>our best to moderate, but overall and overwhelmingly, this is

1:19:27.160 --> 1:19:30.479
<v Speaker 1>an incredibly supportive community. And we are so grateful for

1:19:30.520 --> 1:19:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you guys. We are so grateful for how you help

1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:34.559
<v Speaker 1>each other out, whether it's from something benign like what

1:19:34.640 --> 1:19:37.280
<v Speaker 1>are the best leggings to, you know, asking for some

1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:39.640
<v Speaker 1>really serious life advice. It's a community that loves and

1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:42.200
<v Speaker 1>supports each other, and that every day is the reason

1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>why we show up and do this.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys aren't a part of that community yet,

1:19:46.600 --> 1:19:48.479
<v Speaker 3>obviously you are or if you're a listener, But the

1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:51.160
<v Speaker 3>community that Laura is specifically talking about is the Facebook

1:19:51.160 --> 1:19:53.519
<v Speaker 3>discussion group. That is just where all the love happens,

1:19:53.560 --> 1:19:55.880
<v Speaker 3>all the advice happens, all the support happens. So if

1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:57.880
<v Speaker 3>you're not a part of that yet, go and jump

1:19:57.880 --> 1:20:01.240
<v Speaker 3>on Life Uncut discussion group on Facebook. You can also

1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:03.559
<v Speaker 3>follow us on Instagram, which is Life on Cut podcast.

1:20:03.760 --> 1:20:05.320
<v Speaker 3>But we just want to wish you guys the most

1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:08.559
<v Speaker 3>amazing Christmas. We will be back with some bonus episodes.

1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:10.599
<v Speaker 3>We'll be back next Tuesday with a year in review,

1:20:10.880 --> 1:20:12.720
<v Speaker 3>which is going to be an awesome little ep as well.

1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:14.760
<v Speaker 3>So we're not going anywhere, but we just want to

1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:16.320
<v Speaker 3>say we hope that you are spending it with the

1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:17.160
<v Speaker 3>people that you love.

1:20:17.479 --> 1:20:18.280
<v Speaker 2>We hope that you are.

1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Rounding out twenty twenty one in a really wonderful, love

1:20:22.080 --> 1:20:24.799
<v Speaker 1>filled way to make up for whether you're in lockdown

1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:25.760
<v Speaker 1>or anything else this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We just hope that you bring it on home.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the special bonus episodes that we are going

1:20:30.160 --> 1:20:32.400
<v Speaker 3>to be dropping to you over the break is a

1:20:32.439 --> 1:20:34.960
<v Speaker 3>really really special episode. It is with one of our listeners,

1:20:34.960 --> 1:20:38.559
<v Speaker 3>an og listener, she has been there from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is Bella. If you're part of the discussion group,

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<v Speaker 3>you will one hundred percent know who she is because

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<v Speaker 3>she's very active, she's very open, and she's a very

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<v Speaker 3>important member of our community. She also has a really,

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<v Speaker 3>really incredible story that she wants to tell and she

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<v Speaker 3>wants to share with the world. So if you know her,

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<v Speaker 3>that is coming soon. If you don't, this is why

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<v Speaker 3>you have to get on the Facebook discussion group.

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<v Speaker 2>But guys, you know the drill.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have loved the episode, jump on, give us

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<v Speaker 1>Five stars would be great. That would be a great

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas present. And you know, tell your mum, tell your dad,

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<v Speaker 1>tell your sister, your cousin, your brother. If there's ever

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<v Speaker 1>someone who you think it'll make a difference to and

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<v Speaker 1>share the love because we are love.

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas.