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Speaker 1: We know.

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Speaker 2: The Member for Karama, Brian o' gallagher, yesterday took to

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Speaker 2: social media after catching up with the Police Commissioner Michael

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Speaker 2: he spoke to them about those key areas which are

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Speaker 2: threatened with edged weapons. Now Brian o' gallagher joins me

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Speaker 2: on the line right now.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning to all your listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now made Unfortunately it's not the first time you and

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Speaker 2: I have spoken about anti social behavior.

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Speaker 1: And crime in Karama. But how did that meeting go yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Look, it was a very good meeting, and just put

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Speaker 3: in context, I have regular meetings with the local police.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's with the Commissioner or the Assistant commissioner, other

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Speaker 3: times it's with the superintendents out at Casarina who have

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Speaker 3: that all MLAs have good constructive conversations because that's a

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Speaker 3: way for me to share with the police the concerns

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Speaker 3: grassroots intelligence that I can share back to the police, saying, look,

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Speaker 3: residents have said there's been a bit of a flare

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Speaker 3: and that allows them to look at strategies to maybe

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Speaker 2: So tell me about some of what has gone on

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Speaker 2: in recent weeks. I understand that your office was vandalized

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Speaker 1: Talk me through what's gone on, Brian.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, last week, obviously there was some disappointing, but

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Speaker 3: was just opportunistic. They just walked through, smashed my windows,

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Speaker 3: be you know, the good news. And these are adult defenders.

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Speaker 3: I want to stress, these are out old defenders. Everyone

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Speaker 3: were arrested pretty quickly by our wonderful police in partnership

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Speaker 3: with the shopping center of security, and my understanding, I

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Speaker 3: it go through the judicial process. But I want the

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Speaker 3: last October, we introduced legislation to make real consequences for

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Speaker 3: things like ram raids, posting and boasting, assaults on workers.

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Speaker 3: My understanding is we now have well over five hundred,

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Speaker 2: We had the commissioner on the show yesterday, the corrections Commissioner,

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Speaker 3: That means they're no longer on our streets. So you know,

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Speaker 3: they're not out offending, and we make no apologies to that.

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Speaker 3: I don't make any apologies for taking five hundred extra

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Speaker 3: any social behavior. But other people come back and say, well,

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you we will do our utmos to reduce

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Speaker 1: Our real and expect.

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Speaker 2: It's what people want, it's what they expect. It's why

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Speaker 1: Brian, just tell me in terms of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I personally think it's a presence. Now I want

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Speaker 3: But with the Police Commission, then you know I mentioned

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Speaker 2: All right, So do you think we might be in

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Speaker 2: Hey, Brian, just in relation to that recent incident at

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Speaker 1: They all right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they're okay. And it was very good that

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Speaker 3: They stole some hard liquor, but you know, the staff

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Speaker 1: Hey, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that I don't know whether you've seen this

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Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to you him yet, but I certainly

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Speaker 2: With Hey, Brian, if I mean, if you do end

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really like, I really feel for him.

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Speaker 3: But look, Katie, I just want to alsay, you know,

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Speaker 3: and Olympic Sporting Club bours. You go down there on

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: The crime it only really involves a real minority of people.

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Speaker 3: But most people are great. Most kids are fantastic. They're

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Speaker 1: Of it, oh mate, we don't.

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Speaker 2: We make sure that every week we catch up with

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Speaker 2: I know myself, you know, I'm out in the community

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think it is really important that we continue to

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Speaker 2: highlight those good things.

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Speaker 1: So if there is, you know, anyone doing.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff in your electorate, do make sure you keep us,

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Speaker 2: you know, keep us in mind, let us know we're

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Speaker 2: always happy to have them on.

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Speaker 3: And don't forget. I think I made this during the

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Speaker 3: election campaign. I said, you feel free to come out

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Speaker 3: and do a broadcast seat of the Crime Shop.

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Speaker 1: Oh mate, you'll have to tell my boss. You'll have

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Speaker 1: to tell my boss.

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Speaker 2: Last time I did one out there was years ago

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Speaker 2: and we were we had so many people out there

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Speaker 2: to see us.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, they really, they do appreciate your show. And of

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Speaker 3: course before we go, Yeah, you have one thing you've

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Speaker 3: got to I know you like a lot of people

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Speaker 3: out there, we're all going for Collin with to be

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Speaker 3: GWS on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Oh well mate, I'm waiting for the NRL season to

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Speaker 2: get underway on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm waiting for.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: Luckily we've had it locally still. Luckily we've had all.

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Speaker 3: The happening and we've got the NFL for coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the final, Yeah, exactly, really good to catch up

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Speaker 2: with you this morning, Brian.

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Speaker 1: We are going to have to leave it there, mate,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere is Katie and all the best for you and

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Speaker 3: your listeners, especially those in Crime and Blake and Lucky.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks mate,