Speaker 1: Hi, guys, and welcome to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1: I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and today, well, we're gearing
Speaker 1: up for a Bachelor.
Speaker 2: FINALI na I love FINALI.
Speaker 1: Week, Britte. I'm more excited about this finale than what
Speaker 1: I was about my own finale.
Speaker 2: Why is that because you knew the ending for your finale?
Speaker 1: Door, I didn't know? Oh yeah actually at the time. Wow,
Speaker 1: should I stop that? No?
Speaker 2: Please? That was the best thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 1: Am I still asleep? Probably? I'm just really invested in
Speaker 1: this season, so I really really want to see how
Speaker 1: these final two episodes go down.
Speaker 2: I think I know anyway, I'm not going to say it,
Speaker 2: but I think I know.
Speaker 1: Well, is that because of the editing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a multitude of reasons, some editing and also
Speaker 2: just the girls that I think is more suited to
Speaker 2: our boy Matt.
Speaker 1: So you don't have any actual insider one percent guarantee
Speaker 1: lockdown info. You just have spidy sensors. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what you're going on.
Speaker 2: Complete spidy sensors. Guys.
Speaker 1: We're in for some batchchat today, but we're also going
Speaker 1: to be talking about something a little bit heavier, and
Speaker 1: I think in light of the fact that it is
Speaker 1: finale night coming up, we're going to be talking about
Speaker 1: online bullying. There's this great documentary that's just come out.
Speaker 1: We really highly recommend it. It's on BBC one. It
Speaker 1: is about Little Mixtar Jesse Nelson. It's called The Odd
Speaker 1: One Out and it's all about online bullying that she received.
Speaker 1: It really can happen to anyone, and celebrities are not
Speaker 1: immune to this level of online bullying and abuse and
Speaker 1: the way that it can really affect life, and for
Speaker 1: her it spired her laugh out of control.
Speaker 2: I really really loved watching this documentary and I'm excited
Speaker 2: to delve into it and share it with everyone.
Speaker 1: Me too.
Speaker 2: But apart from that, did you see There's something else
Speaker 2: in the water again? Because two more Batchy babes got engaged.
Speaker 1: I did see this, and they're both from my seats,
Speaker 1: both from your season. Everyone is getting.
Speaker 2: Married, so it was a Laura and Tara, A Laura.
Speaker 1: And Tara, and I'm so happy for the two of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, Tara had a bit of a raft saying
Speaker 1: yes after her Batching Paradise experience with Sam, and I
Speaker 1: think we all saw that play out in the media.
Speaker 1: She has been incredibly happy with her new partner, who
Speaker 1: doesn't live in the reality TV bubble at all. He's
Speaker 1: just a really great, normal guy and now they're getting married.
Speaker 2: So are you connected with either of those girls at all? Still?
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to a Laura at all since the
Speaker 1: show finished. And Tara I have seen because we both
Speaker 1: went to Kobe's baby shower. But our season has just
Speaker 1: been the season of successful relationships everyone who's come out
Speaker 1: of it. Mate, don't rub it in, baby, you're on
Speaker 1: the wrong, yeah, am I? Yeah, but I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: wanted to be up against you. Could you imagine we
Speaker 1: would not be sitting here doing this podcast.
Speaker 2: Imagine if it was you and me. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was always he was always going to imagine that it
Speaker 2: was you from day dot No. But that's really good
Speaker 2: that they got engaged. But I think I do think
Speaker 2: it's hilarious that will happen on the same day.
Speaker 1: On the same day, way to steal each other's under
Speaker 1: Who announced it first? Daily Mail? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think Tar Daily Fail. I think Tara got in there first.
Speaker 1: And then I mean I saw it from Daily Mail
Speaker 1: before I saw it on Instagram. Isn't that ridiculous? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's where I get my news source, isn't
Speaker 1: it doesn't me.
Speaker 2: You didn't even know what your ending was when you
Speaker 2: were watching it.
Speaker 1: Oh, leave me alone. I'm very tired, guys. I know
Speaker 1: I complained about this every week, but now Mally's going
Speaker 1: through her four months sleep regression. So anyone who's a
Speaker 1: parent who's listening to this will really sympathize with the
Speaker 1: fact that I now get about four hours sleep a week.
Speaker 1: So two episodes ago, when I said that my sweet
Speaker 1: for the week was that Marley was sleeping like an angel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that came back to bite me in the ass,
Speaker 1: didn't It always? Does? It always?
Speaker 2: This morning, actually, Lauren that you went and did a
Speaker 2: little work out, your first work out with bitting a
Speaker 2: few friends. But I noticed that you said you didn't
Speaker 2: wie yourself and that you were really stoked about that.
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to shout out and congra congratulate
Speaker 2: you on that.
Speaker 1: You're congratulating me on my public pulor muscles. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: I really do like that's something that I need to
Speaker 1: be congratulated on. I've got that under control. Literally, I'm
Speaker 1: staate for you. Thanks me too, Me too.
Speaker 2: So what else grubed your attention this week in the media.
Speaker 1: Oh look, this one is a little bit controversial. I
Speaker 1: know that I need to tread a little bit carefully
Speaker 1: with this. Emotions run very, very high when Ellie went
Speaker 1: home from last week's episode of The Bachelor. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of hurt and hate flying around on the internet,
Speaker 1: which is kind of good. Way we're talking about online
Speaker 1: bullying this week. However, there was one thing that stood
Speaker 1: out to me, and like I said, I really do
Speaker 1: feel like I need to be sensitive in the way
Speaker 1: that I say this just for fear of putting a
Speaker 1: step in correctly with this. But I did see that
Speaker 1: Georgia Love tweeted after the show had finished and if
Speaker 1: you have some small kids around, then maybe block there
Speaker 1: ears because there is a little bit of a sea
Speaker 1: language here. She wrote, fuck you, Matt, don't at me.
Speaker 1: And that was because Matt agnew our Batchie, our Astrobatchie,
Speaker 1: had sent home Ellie and obviously she was very upset
Speaker 1: about it, as was the rest of Australia. However, the
Speaker 1: fact that Georgia Love had said this really grind my gears.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a pretty controversial thing to say from anybody,
Speaker 2: but from somebody that has been in that exact position.
Speaker 1: Well, I think my issue with it didn't so much
Speaker 1: come from she's offering criticism. I mean, it's totally okay
Speaker 1: to not be an abby fan and to be upset
Speaker 1: that you know your favorite character is going home. However,
Speaker 1: language is really really important. She didn't set of say hey,
Speaker 1: this isn't cool. She chose to use obscenities and basically
Speaker 1: verbally abuse Matt for his choices. Think sets a really
Speaker 1: really low bar, and it also then validates anybody else
Speaker 1: who wants to sling abuse at him, which is just
Speaker 1: not the example that we should be setting when we
Speaker 1: have been in that position before. The thing that really
Speaker 1: struck me as being hypocritical with this one is that
Speaker 1: number five was Cam Cramley in her season, and Cam
Speaker 1: is the fireman. Everybody in Australia Free King loves Cam.
Speaker 1: He is wonderful, and Georgia loves sent him home and
Speaker 1: didn't bring him onto hometowns. And I know that she
Speaker 1: a lot of flak at that point in time because
Speaker 1: she was following her heart. So as much as I
Speaker 1: do question Matt's decisions in keeping Abby in the show.
Speaker 1: I still think it's a bit of a situation where
Speaker 1: it's pot calling kettle, and I just think as a
Speaker 1: journalist and as someone who really understands the power of language,
Speaker 1: I expected more than that. That's my thoughts. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you think, am am? I nitpicking at this?
Speaker 2: Whoever says something like this is definitely setting a standard
Speaker 2: example that it's okay to do it, especially someone in
Speaker 2: the media in the public eye, which I think is wrong.
Speaker 2: But also been in her position, We've all been. I
Speaker 2: mean I haven't been on that end as in Bachelorette,
Speaker 2: but I have been through the whole thing and been
Speaker 2: standing at the end, and you know that what she's
Speaker 2: seen isn't the whole story.
Speaker 1: People are definitely.
Speaker 2: Edited in a certain way in both extremes, good and bad, favorites, villains, everyone.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's also always some truth to things, but
Speaker 2: essentially she knows that what's been presented to us isn't
Speaker 2: always the whole story in any situation. So for her
Speaker 2: to just jump on that train and sort of hurl
Speaker 2: this verbal abuse, I don't think it's fantastic. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a fantastic example. No, I think it's fair
Speaker 2: call to bring that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so since we're talking about bit of online bullying today,
Speaker 1: that was what made me think, Man, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: point this one out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely tizing well, and we'll jump into that straight
Speaker 2: after if you want to.
Speaker 1: Do that to be cab this again, I don't know
Speaker 1: whether I'll let it that out or keep that in.
Speaker 1: I could keep really offensive and keep that bad boyant.
Speaker 1: Should we all take a moment's silence for Ellie because
Speaker 1: quite honestly, that was a very, very very sad episode.
Speaker 1: I like what you're doing there, but silence doesn't work
Speaker 1: in podcasts, so we're going to have to scrap that
Speaker 1: rap Ellie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just take a moment to appreciate that ridiculous
Speaker 2: date where they blindfolded each other and had to hug
Speaker 2: each other. He had to guess the chemistry, the chemistry
Speaker 2: through the hug. There's a big difference between all of
Speaker 2: those girls in high shape, what they're wearing. Some of
Speaker 2: them had sleeves, some of them didn't.
Speaker 1: Some of them had.
Speaker 2: Huge boobs, others don't.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I reckon, maybe Ellie and Abby would
Speaker 1: be similar in their in their builds, do you think.
Speaker 2: But I think that's probably shorter.
Speaker 1: But would you know that though when you're blind, she's
Speaker 1: got to bend down. And then Elena's tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny,
Speaker 1: and Chelsea's got super long hair, so you would feel
Speaker 1: these types of things, Yeah, I think, But I mean
Speaker 1: it really wouldn't kind of play into the storyline. If
Speaker 1: Matt was like, well, I knew exactly who which one
Speaker 1: of you were, and Abby, it's you again. I want
Speaker 1: to take you on another day. I think you would
Speaker 1: have known Abby from the chloring in the back as well.
Speaker 1: I know. And did you see that he was like
Speaker 1: sweating down his back. That's Abby peel As.
Speaker 2: There was just so much of I didn't know if
Speaker 2: I was laughing, crying on cringing, but it was. It
Speaker 2: was pretty amusing.
Speaker 1: They always hate the setup where the girls are expected
Speaker 1: to sit there and watch it playback. It's just so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: We actually had that on our series, but they didn't
Speaker 1: end up showing us sitting and watching the girls. They
Speaker 1: had to write a letter to old mate Maddie Jay
Speaker 1: and then read this letter out, and we had to
Speaker 1: sit behind the screen and critique the girls. They actually
Speaker 1: ended up removing it all together because I think it
Speaker 1: just came across as so bitchy. But it didn't matter
Speaker 1: who was saying anything. It was just a really bitchy setup.
Speaker 2: So they did that in my season too, but this
Speaker 2: was intense. It was probably the only group date I
Speaker 2: think I didn't go on, and I'm so glad I didn't.
Speaker 2: So Nick had to sit on a couch with each
Speaker 2: girl individually in front of a human light detector. So
Speaker 2: this guy had worked like the FBI. He was insane,
Speaker 2: and all the other girls had to watch on through
Speaker 2: a glass through a glass window on a TV to
Speaker 2: see who was like, how the girls reacted to the questions,
Speaker 2: who was lying? He was telling porky pies all this.
Speaker 1: So my question is, why the hell didn't they put
Speaker 1: Nick on a light detector? Are you here to grow
Speaker 1: your profile? No?
Speaker 2: Are you going to pick anybody?
Speaker 1: Then? Yes, Matt, are you here to find love? Genuinely?
Speaker 1: The poor thing probably would have been electrocuted? Okay, So
Speaker 1: that was why did any how did it turn out?
Speaker 1: Was it a good outcome or was everyone super nervous
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 2: No, everybody was super nervous, And you could hear and
Speaker 2: see their voices shaking, and I'm so I have nothing
Speaker 2: to hide, but I'm super glad I wasn't on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for me that I would be more
Speaker 1: stressed about what if the outcome was wrong and the
Speaker 1: lie detector was incorrect and me not trusting this.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't a lie detector. It was just this
Speaker 2: man being like me, yeah, totally. Oh your heart rates elevated. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course it is. I'm shitting myself anyway. You have
Speaker 2: to laugh now, but I don't think anyone's laughing at
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: So Ellie got the extra time. The thing that I
Speaker 1: don't like about the setup on this is that I
Speaker 1: don't think Ellie would have necessarily brought up Abby again.
Speaker 1: I think she would have been asked and prompted to
Speaker 1: bring it up, and then she's being victimized for bringing
Speaker 1: it up. Because you always sort of start your conversations
Speaker 1: where you've left off your last conversation. That's what you're
Speaker 1: encouraged to do. So the fact that they had had
Speaker 1: their last conversation at the cocktail party about Abby, it's
Speaker 1: only natural that that would have been a rehash in
Speaker 1: this episode, and so I think she really got an
Speaker 1: nail in the coffin, just because she was kind of
Speaker 1: doing what she probably was told that she had to do.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, that again happened on my season. They sort
Speaker 2: of do make it. They're like, well, this is how
Speaker 2: the last episode ended, so you need to pick it
Speaker 2: up like this, And I remember saying if it's a continuity, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember saying it doesn't matter to me. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to talk about it anymore. And Nick asked the
Speaker 2: question and they had to cut it out because I
Speaker 2: went really, Nick, like, you're really going to go back
Speaker 2: and talk about this again? And he's like, I brute,
Speaker 2: like I have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for those who watched it and sort of thought,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe she's banging on about
Speaker 1: this again, my heart really did go out for Ellie
Speaker 1: a little bit, because I do think that she would
Speaker 1: have been prompted. We just didn't see that prompting. And
Speaker 1: then I think that was probably what made her so
Speaker 1: sure that Abby was going home and not Ellie, because
Speaker 1: she was so confident in that episode that it was
Speaker 1: not her going home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think she saw that coming, not.
Speaker 1: At all, and so Abby got the single date on
Speaker 1: that episode. And they went and they did that Matt's
Speaker 1: movers what was that? They moved house and of course
Speaker 1: there was going to be a bed. That was the
Speaker 1: most budget single date I have ever seen in my
Speaker 1: entire life. Literally, Art department were like, oh freak, we've
Speaker 1: got no money left. Oh well, just all we need
Speaker 1: is a bed.
Speaker 2: Throw that in there, we'll see what happens. Hey by
Speaker 2: played foot golf. It's a made up sport.
Speaker 1: It's a made up sport. Did you like what a
Speaker 1: golf ball? That was all they had for a budget,
Speaker 1: so they like, was not a golf ball, it's a
Speaker 1: soccerball on a golf course. Oh wow, but that was
Speaker 1: so funny, and you budget you saw it coming.
Speaker 2: You saw they were going to trip onto the bed.
Speaker 2: And it's like a sort of like a corny rom
Speaker 2: com a little bit.
Speaker 1: It really was. It was like watching an episode of Friends, Yes,
Speaker 1: but not as good, not as well, not as funny,
Speaker 1: So off Friends? What? Yeah, I don't know. There's so
Speaker 1: many like who are you? There's so many dated references.
Speaker 1: It's just so homophobic all the time. That's totally another podcast.
Speaker 2: You need to just accept it for what it is,
Speaker 2: and when it was.
Speaker 1: Who's the one that is that Ross that has the kid?
Speaker 1: And then he's angry that his kid likes.
Speaker 2: Barbie ROSSI is my least favorite character.
Speaker 1: It just makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2: Rachel is my buck could be anyone in Hollywood. I
Speaker 2: would be Jennifer Aniston a series called Friends. Those friends
Speaker 2: are actually pretty shitty towards each other, and I don't
Speaker 2: really like it.
Speaker 1: Anyway. That's my thought on Friends.
Speaker 2: Twins for the other one.
Speaker 1: All right, that's a pretty nice thing to do. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch enough of it. I just watched one episode
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is really homophobic. I don't
Speaker 1: like this, and I turned it off. Let's get back
Speaker 1: to the bund.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: So hey guys, I know you've come here for my
Speaker 1: opinion on nineties TV shows, So you're.
Speaker 2: Right, let's go back cut Friends. Anyway. We're in this
Speaker 2: little fantastic furniture and they're having a romp on the bed.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, is there a
Speaker 1: better place to romp? My question is what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Abby and the way that she has been edited?
Speaker 2: Ooh, I think she's been edited probably a lot harsher
Speaker 2: than she deserves, and I think she probably has drawn
Speaker 2: a bit of a short straw, because when you think
Speaker 2: about it, I tried to really put this into perspective.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's actually anything that's that nasty or mean.
Speaker 2: All she's done really is been very confident in who
Speaker 2: she is and what she wants and very sexual.
Speaker 1: I was thinking this the other day as well. She's
Speaker 1: not actually done anything really wrong, whereas all of our
Speaker 1: villains in the past have always done something wrong. They've
Speaker 1: always been actually mean people as villains.
Speaker 2: Well, she's done a few little things like cutting the
Speaker 2: other girl's grass, where she's quickly going cutting in front
Speaker 2: of them to take Matt, and doing things like that
Speaker 2: that are just not fantastic.
Speaker 1: That in respects to that though, she says, well, I'm
Speaker 1: here for Matt and I'm not here for my friendships
Speaker 1: with these girls.
Speaker 2: She's been honest about it. She's like, yeah, I'm selfish
Speaker 2: because she's quite a spade of spade she has throughout
Speaker 2: the whole thing. We as a population just haven't really
Speaker 2: accepted that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do think though that they are keeping a lot
Speaker 1: of her sexual advances in And I had this conversation
Speaker 1: with Matt because I sort of said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's so over the top, like I never said anything
Speaker 1: like that to you. And Matt said to me the
Speaker 1: other day, he was like, Laura, do you not remember
Speaker 1: on our last day we were on like some kayak
Speaker 1: thing in the middle of Thailand. I remember that? And
Speaker 1: I told him I wanted to sit on his face.
Speaker 1: And then obviously never made it to air, did you yea?
Speaker 1: I know I was half joking. No, I was being
Speaker 1: super inappropriate, but why so because I'd spent three and
Speaker 1: a half months with a lot of sexual tension and
Speaker 1: I said it as a joke. I really did say
Speaker 1: it as a joke. But obviously they could have used
Speaker 1: low There was probably a little bit of something in there,
Speaker 1: but they could have used it, and they chose not
Speaker 1: to use it. Had they chosen to use that, that
Speaker 1: would have absolutely crucified me and made me look like
Speaker 1: such a little vixen. By omitting details, you can make
Speaker 1: someone look amazing, and by including every bad detail you
Speaker 1: can make someone look really shitty. And so I think
Speaker 1: we need to keep perspective on this sometimes that the
Speaker 1: people who come across as amazing aren't necessarily that amazing.
Speaker 1: And the people who have come across as really really
Speaker 1: bad aren't necessarily that bad. Everyone kind of evens out
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 2: Definitely, I agree with that. So choffing right along to
Speaker 2: the cocktail party a long end, Ellie Choof's off home.
Speaker 1: The nation's heart cries, everyone breaks down, everyone's in uproar, uprising.
Speaker 1: I don't know all the things. Ellie's gone home.
Speaker 2: Look, they weren't happy.
Speaker 1: She's gonna find herself a bloody great country bumpkin out there,
Speaker 1: and she's just gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: She's gonna be just fine. She had a great run
Speaker 2: on the show, so she's had nothing to worry about it.
Speaker 2: She's a beautiful girl, and I think she got a
Speaker 2: great edit. She's a really really lovely, lovely, likable person,
Speaker 2: and I think there's a good chance she could be bachelorette.
Speaker 1: Brittany is like, no, she will not be, because I will
Speaker 1: be Batchel the Red. I will kill that girl. I
Speaker 1: was not thinking that, but I mean, hey, interesting, I'm
Speaker 1: calling it. Okay, who was your stand at Hometown?
Speaker 2: I thought they were quite uneventful to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really were, weren't they.
Speaker 2: I mean, in terms of what they actually did, Like
Speaker 2: I went and raced Camel's down the beach with Nick.
Speaker 2: They went to the part in her drink, and then
Speaker 2: they went to a pool and had to swim, Like
Speaker 2: it was just a bit different. I think on our
Speaker 2: season Sophie went jet skiing, and I think we had
Speaker 2: some more exciting things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they don't have the budgets though.
Speaker 1: I mean, like going back to Abby who moved house
Speaker 1: and had a bed date, I feel like they've really
Speaker 1: sort of stayed true there and they're like, well, what
Speaker 1: can we do today. We're in Melbourne, let's go sit
Speaker 1: in a pub.
Speaker 2: It was Abby's was up first. It was quite awkward.
Speaker 2: I found the whole thing, the kissing in front of
Speaker 2: those two massus. I nearly died and you could see
Speaker 2: them trying to stifle their laugh. They were trying and
Speaker 2: they were looking at each other like where do we look?
Speaker 1: It was actually a bit disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Don't very much on both behalf hundred percent, but I
Speaker 2: don't think they actually spoke the whole date. From the
Speaker 2: moment they got into the pool, it was kissing, kissing, kissing, romping, kissing,
Speaker 2: and then they went to the lounge and I was kissing, kissing, kissing.
Speaker 1: She's saying it's only natural, which maybe it is in
Speaker 1: some respects, But then unnatural thing is that you've got
Speaker 1: a massive film crew who is filming you make out
Speaker 1: whilst you've got two messuses trying to give you a massage.
Speaker 1: The thing is weird. It was all too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then after Abbey's hometown. Whose hometown was it, I've forgotten.
Speaker 2: So we had Chelsea in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Boring.
Speaker 2: I love Chelsea, but god, that was a boring or.
Speaker 2: They literally went to the pub and had a drink and.
Speaker 1: That was it. It was cute though that Matt was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can see how our lives would seamlessly fit together
Speaker 1: because on the weekends I sit in bars.
Speaker 2: It was so funny, all right, Matt.
Speaker 1: Both budget was low and ninety eight percent of the
Speaker 1: rest of the population who you could date.
Speaker 2: And then they had this really lovely dinner. And I
Speaker 2: did feel for Chelsea in this moment when they were
Speaker 2: saying their goodbyes. She could tell that she wanted to
Speaker 2: say she loved him or was falling in love with him,
Speaker 2: and she just couldn't get it out. And I know,
Speaker 2: at this point you're really encouraged to talk about your feelings,
Speaker 2: so she would have wanted to try, and bless her
Speaker 2: because I didn't do it either. She couldn't get there.
Speaker 2: So I really felt for her in that moment because
Speaker 2: I have been there where you've worn You've had feelings,
Speaker 2: and you've wanted to say it, but you're not at
Speaker 2: the point of saying I love you. So I think
Speaker 2: what she did was fine.
Speaker 1: I think that her hometown, as much as I say
Speaker 1: it was boring, it was pretty delightful. Her family are lovely,
Speaker 1: her sister is lovely. She sister was pretty hard asked,
Speaker 1: but he yeah, but she was still lovely, Like she
Speaker 1: softened at the end, and I think she was just
Speaker 1: being protective, which was a nice quality that she had.
Speaker 1: And I also think that realistically, Matt will fit in
Speaker 1: with that family and with Chelsea's life way more than
Speaker 1: anybody else that's left. So I really did as much
Speaker 1: as I criticize it, because I mean, I love Chelsea's hometown.
Speaker 2: Well, then in complete contrast to that, we had Emma's
Speaker 2: hometown in Sydney, where she basically wanted to have his
Speaker 2: babies tomorrow.
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm going to move to Melbourne. Right now,
Speaker 1: we're getting married. Here, I bought this tuxedo. We're ready.
Speaker 1: This is my friend. They're also celebrant. Yeah, we're doing
Speaker 1: it now. Surprise. It was a lot, wasn't it, look
Speaker 1: I I But.
Speaker 2: She's always been open about it too. She's always been
Speaker 2: open that she loves love, that she's looking for, that
Speaker 2: she wants it. She felt it with Matt. So everybody
Speaker 2: feels things at a different rate. Whilst I wouldn't feel
Speaker 2: something that quickly, it's okay that she did, but I
Speaker 2: think absolutely for Matt that's scary at this point. Also,
Speaker 2: it can be a bit difficult at hometowns when you
Speaker 2: don't bring your actual family, when you're bringing friends, and
Speaker 2: the that her family's overseas, it sets you at a
Speaker 2: bit of an unfair disadvantage. I remember when it was
Speaker 2: our season and Florence brought her friends, and then Florence
Speaker 2: was one who went home, And in this situation, Emma's
Speaker 2: the one who went home at this cocktail party. Because
Speaker 2: I think for the bachelor, it's much easier to send
Speaker 2: someone home who he's, you know, lukewarm interested in if
Speaker 2: he's only met their friends. It's much harder to send
Speaker 2: someone home when you've met their mom, their dad, their sister.
Speaker 1: You know. I think it's a bigger responsibility.
Speaker 2: Yep. And then of course there's always one. It was
Speaker 2: mine last year, but Elena's hometown dirt rama and derailed.
Speaker 1: Didn't It got a bit too much? Actually, Like I
Speaker 1: really I liked the suspense the first time round, where
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't know if I can do this,
Speaker 1: and then he talked her into staying. But then when
Speaker 1: she came out a second time, I was like, really,
Speaker 1: we're doing this again.
Speaker 2: So anyone they didn't watch it, Elena tried to leave. Basically,
Speaker 2: Matt forgot what happened on their red carpet meeting. He
Speaker 2: forgot that Eleanor spoke French to him.
Speaker 1: If Nick had forgotten your red carpet meeting, would you
Speaker 1: have been offended?
Speaker 2: Probably a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Actually it's your first moment and your first impression. So
Speaker 2: if you left that much of an impression, you're not
Speaker 2: going to forget it.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. Surely, if you're there at the end,
Speaker 1: there must have been something about your experience that stood out.
Speaker 1: It's a big deal. I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: That was a bit alarming for me as well. And
Speaker 1: so I do think that she felt like, it's definitely
Speaker 1: not going to be meet at the end, So why
Speaker 1: am I sticking around to get dumped by this guy?
Speaker 2: He didn't really put in the effort to keep her there.
Speaker 2: He didn't beg her, he didn't convince her. I think
Speaker 2: he was more like, oh, okay, well maybe this is
Speaker 2: my easy way out.
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't think that he was. I think
Speaker 1: that if he was really keen on Eleanor and she
Speaker 1: was going to be the one at the end, he
Speaker 1: would have put in a bit more of a red
Speaker 1: hot go.
Speaker 2: I just I didn't feel it from Matt really.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, the decisions come down to the bachelor, and if
Speaker 1: he wants you there, he will make sure that you
Speaker 1: were there.
Speaker 2: It is a bachelor's choice, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And so that on that episode. See you later, Emma,
Speaker 1: we are down to our final three. I am so
Speaker 1: excited for this week. I know I said I wouldn't
Speaker 1: sing again, but there you go. I can't wait. It's
Speaker 1: gone really quickly. It's gone really really quickly. But I
Speaker 1: can't believe that Tomorrow night, Thursday night is finale and
Speaker 1: Matt's gonna be with the woman that he chooses, and
Speaker 1: that'd be our love story.
Speaker 2: Out happy and proud.
Speaker 1: For Chelsea, for Abby and for Elena. Like this is
Speaker 1: the most stressful period because you're watching your final moments
Speaker 1: play out on screen. And Australia, Yeah, because like girls,
Speaker 1: I'm freaking excited to watch this episode.
Speaker 2: Green Baby, Laura, did you know that seven to ten
Speaker 2: young people experience cyber bullying and twenty six percent of
Speaker 2: young people who have experienced cyberbullying have reported feeling suicidal.
Speaker 2: That is bloody ridiculous and something we never had to
Speaker 2: deal with growing up because we didn't even have the Internet.
Speaker 2: I remember the Internet coming in. What a day that was? Hey,
Speaker 2: that was a great day.
Speaker 1: Probably ordered pizza? Did you order pizza online?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: I don't think that those functionalities. I didn't say online.
Speaker 2: I had my dial up.
Speaker 1: They go. Well. I remember in school when we got
Speaker 1: the Internet for the first time and my email address
Speaker 1: was tropy girl one two three because I am a
Speaker 1: tropical kind of girl. I was also about Victor, You're
Speaker 1: a loser, don't bully me. Let's talking about right now, Brittany.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, in this day and age, Laura. The reality is,
Speaker 2: and I don't need to tell you this, but we
Speaker 2: spend more time online than ever before. It's time to
Speaker 2: talk about the effects this has on individuals more openly
Speaker 2: and honestly. And that's why I want to talk to
Speaker 2: you all today about Jesse Nelson from uk Ban Little
Speaker 2: Mix and the documentary that she has just released on
Speaker 2: BBC one on one out.
Speaker 1: I loved this documentary, Brittany. I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure because I'm not a huge fan and
Speaker 1: this maybe will be a little bit polarizing for some people,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a huge fan of Little Mix the band,
Speaker 1: but I love what that documentary stood for. And basically
Speaker 1: what Jesse was trying to portray is that when they
Speaker 1: won X Factor back in can you remember what.
Speaker 2: Year that way, I was twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: So when they went X Factor back in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: which should have been the best day of her life.
Speaker 1: This is the day that her all of her dreams
Speaker 1: came true, all of the hard work, all of the
Speaker 1: things that her life was culminating in. She should have
Speaker 1: been celebrating, and instead she was just reduced to an
Speaker 1: absolute shell of a person because of all of the
Speaker 1: online hate that she was receiving, where people were writing
Speaker 1: to her saying that she was the fat one from
Speaker 1: Little MiGs. They were calling her just horrible, horrible names,
Speaker 1: and she was being totally judged based on her looks
Speaker 1: and nothing about the quality of her singing or the
Speaker 1: fact that she had just one X Factor in the UK.
Speaker 2: Basically, she went from zero to one hundred so quickly.
Speaker 2: She was working in this bar in her little town,
Speaker 2: and she didn't have a lot of money, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden she's finding herself standing on stage winning
Speaker 2: X Factor, and she actually says in the documentary, I
Speaker 2: should have been the happiest of my life. And all
Speaker 2: I wanted to do was get the hell off the
Speaker 2: stage and get home to bed because the harassment and
Speaker 2: the trolling and the toxic comments she had gotten from
Speaker 2: the day she basically started, that journey had finally got
Speaker 2: to a tipping point and she just didn't even want
Speaker 2: to be there anymore. And to me, that broke my heart.
Speaker 1: The thing that I found so interesting about this as well,
Speaker 1: is that she was saying that when she worked in
Speaker 1: a bar and when she had more of a simple
Speaker 1: everyday life, she was really happy with the person that
Speaker 1: she was. She never was self conscious about the way
Speaker 1: she looked. You know, she was quite happy with the
Speaker 1: way that she looked, and she was quite happy with
Speaker 1: the person that she was. And it wasn't until she
Speaker 1: had reached this level of being a celebrity that she
Speaker 1: started to unravel and started to question her self worth
Speaker 1: because so many people had come at her and said,
Speaker 1: you're not worthy of what you're at, and you're not
Speaker 1: worthy of who you are because you're not attractive, and
Speaker 1: her value as a person all boiled down to that
Speaker 1: she was made to feel like the ugly one from
Speaker 1: Little Mix, and.
Speaker 2: She said of got to the point where she she
Speaker 2: just stopped turning up for work, She stopped meeting the
Speaker 2: band members, she stopped going to events. Actually, there were
Speaker 2: a few concerts that they showed performances where they showed
Speaker 2: her speaking to the audience. Everyone was happy, and then
Speaker 2: she would just break down in tears and she couldn't
Speaker 2: do it because she became so emotionally vulnerable. Or if
Speaker 2: she would think about when she was sitting on the stage,
Speaker 2: was what people were seeing when they looked at her.
Speaker 2: No one cared what she was saying or her voice
Speaker 2: or anything. It was just about her appearance.
Speaker 1: One of the things I think is really interesting from
Speaker 1: this documentary as well is that it makes it very
Speaker 1: clear that it's not just celebrities who are victims to
Speaker 1: online bullying.
Speaker 2: But Jesse speaks about the fact that she didn't have
Speaker 2: social media and Instagram or anything when she became part
Speaker 2: of the band, but in that journey they sort of
Speaker 2: made her. There are a lot of people that will say, well,
Speaker 2: you've put yourself in that spot by putting yourself in
Speaker 2: the spotlight, but that's not necessarily true for anybody that
Speaker 2: chooses to be in the spotlight. That's not putting a
Speaker 2: big sticker on your forehead saying Hey, I'm in the spotlight.
Speaker 2: Attack me.
Speaker 1: The issue with Instagram now and with being someone who
Speaker 1: is a public figure is that you can't really get
Speaker 1: to this position of being a public figure without having
Speaker 1: social media, so they kind of coexist. There's very few
Speaker 1: people who are celebrities, who are modern celebrities who have
Speaker 1: come up during the era of social media who don't
Speaker 1: have that platform, because that's how their fans engage, that's
Speaker 1: how they're able to actually start to leverage a platform
Speaker 1: and grow as a celebrity. So it's easy to say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they should just delete their social media. It's not possible
Speaker 1: when you're in that position to just delete your social media.
Speaker 1: The only thing that you can do is to put
Speaker 1: fail safes in place, like logging off or not reading
Speaker 1: the comments, or having someone externally manage your social media
Speaker 1: page so that you're not reading those comments. But to
Speaker 1: sort of say that they don't or shouldn't have it,
Speaker 1: it means that they couldn't actually do their career properly
Speaker 1: without it either.
Speaker 2: Well, there are a lot of and I known this
Speaker 2: firsthand from people that I know in the industry, there
Speaker 2: are a lot of casting directors and agencies that will
Speaker 2: literally might not hire the better actress, but they might
Speaker 2: hire the actress or actor they have a bigger social
Speaker 2: media following.
Speaker 1: Absolutely because it's free advertising, totally. Basically.
Speaker 2: Jesse describes that she almost became obsessed with reading these
Speaker 2: negative comments. So she would literally wake up first thing
Speaker 2: in the morning and all she would do is roll
Speaker 2: over and start reading. She couldn't stop. Now, there was
Speaker 2: this one performance coming up, and all she wanted to
Speaker 2: do was lose weight for the performance. Because she knows
Speaker 2: that everyone calls her fat, which, mind you, she absolutely
Speaker 2: was not. If anyone can go and have a look
Speaker 2: at her, she's so far from fat and ugly, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: She starved herself. She literally ate nothing until she felt faint.
Speaker 2: She might eat like a biscuit for a week because
Speaker 2: all she wanted to do. She said, I didn't care
Speaker 2: if anybody thought my performance was great. I just wanted
Speaker 2: somebody to comment and say, oh my gosh, she's lost weight.
Speaker 1: She's so skinny now.
Speaker 2: So then this was sort of the performance that pushed
Speaker 2: her over the edge because after this there were a
Speaker 2: bunch of tweets saying how ugly she was. But there
Speaker 2: was one from Britain's Royal commentating bitch Katie Hopkins that
Speaker 2: we spoke about last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we spoke about Katie Hopkins in our Mega Market episode. Coincidentally,
Speaker 1: completely her comment or her tweet is what really put
Speaker 1: Jesse Nelson over the edge.
Speaker 2: So Jesse's gone to try and starve us off and
Speaker 2: lose weight. Katie Hopkins tweets directly after and says Packet
Speaker 2: Mix have still got a chubby in their ranks. Less
Speaker 2: little mix, more pick and mix.
Speaker 1: And so Jesse didn't even know that this tweet had
Speaker 1: been had come out, And what had happened was that
Speaker 1: she sat down to do an interview the day after
Speaker 1: the show where she was feeling really really good about herself,
Speaker 1: and one of the journalists had said to her, oh,
Speaker 1: did you see what Katie Hopkins tweeted about you last night?
Speaker 1: And so even though she hadn't read it herself on
Speaker 1: social media, she couldn't avoid the people were still talking
Speaker 1: about her in this negative light, and that was the
Speaker 1: complete undoing of Jesse Nelson. In this documentary, she said
Speaker 1: that that's when she spiraled into a real depressive state.
Speaker 1: It breaks my heart, but that's when she's thought, I'm
Speaker 1: never going to be happy again. So she tried to
Speaker 1: commit suicide. And it was this constant barrage of nasty
Speaker 1: online that changed her perception and her self worth to
Speaker 1: a point where she wanted to take her own life.
Speaker 2: So, speaking about the tweet, Jesse says, all I remember
Speaker 2: feeling at that time is what is the fucking point.
Speaker 2: I've starved myself for a week and I'm getting called fat.
Speaker 2: I could be the skinniest girl in the whole world,
Speaker 2: and this is just never going to go away, and
Speaker 2: that was literally what pushed her to overdose. She took
Speaker 2: a bunch of peals in her house and went to
Speaker 2: bed and just thought, I can't deal with the pain anymore.
Speaker 2: And her saving grace her then boyfriend, who just said,
Speaker 2: what's wrong? Way you upset? And she told him luckily,
Speaker 2: and they got help for her and of an ambulance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got an ambulance.
Speaker 1: It's very easy to sort of spit vile on the
Speaker 1: Internet and to not think about the repercussions that that has,
Speaker 1: and it's so quick. There's a grotesque lack of accountability.
Speaker 1: Where we can log onto an Instagram, we can jump
Speaker 1: onto someone's profile in a very very quick succession, write
Speaker 1: something absolutely hideous and then go out and get a
Speaker 1: peat afterwards, as though nothing happened. At least back in
Speaker 1: the day when when we were at school, if we
Speaker 1: were getting bullied, someone would have to find us in
Speaker 1: the playground and physically say it to our face. It
Speaker 1: was said to you and you could still remember it,
Speaker 1: whereas with social media you can go back to that
Speaker 1: comment and you can reread it and reread it, and
Speaker 1: if that comment isn't written on your page, just say
Speaker 1: it's written on a post that someone else has posted
Speaker 1: over you. You can't delete that, you can keep rereading
Speaker 1: these negative comments. The onus is on the person to block,
Speaker 1: which is just so unfair.
Speaker 2: And it's also there's a difference with now somebody coming
Speaker 2: up to you in a playground and saying you're fat,
Speaker 2: and somebody saying it on a social platform to somebody
Speaker 2: that it could reach fifty million people, yeah, million people
Speaker 2: with Instagram.
Speaker 1: The flavor of bullying is changing, so bullying isn't just
Speaker 1: one type anymore. There's so many different ways that you
Speaker 1: can bully someone online. Now you can bully someone by
Speaker 1: sliding into their DMS. You can bully someone by excluding
Speaker 1: them from a group online. You can even bully your
Speaker 1: ex by posting photos with your new partner if you
Speaker 1: want to. And this subtle constantness of social media and
Speaker 1: the fact that it's always on you ignore that it exists.
Speaker 1: The bullying is always there. So kids these days who
Speaker 1: are at school being bullied, they don't get to go
Speaker 1: home and then have a break from it. They go
Speaker 1: home and they can go onto their computers or onto
Speaker 1: their phones, and it's this constant that never switches off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that I think can really break people's spirits. And I
Speaker 1: think people underestimate the power of words. I was not
Speaker 1: very bullied at school, to be honest. But there's one
Speaker 1: comment I remember someone saying to me. It's pretty funny
Speaker 1: they called me p head because I had a small head.
Speaker 1: That's not funny, that's horrible.
Speaker 2: Well, I had a small head, and I'm might like
Speaker 2: my head is quite small now. But the point of
Speaker 2: this is I have remembered that forever. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: have a friend, same thing, were the same age.
Speaker 1: Don't have a small head. But the fact that someone
Speaker 1: said that to you, now that's what you think. But
Speaker 1: you think you have a small head. See, maybe I do,
Speaker 1: and I was probably sick. I have another friend and
Speaker 1: somebody said to them, also at the same age, you
Speaker 1: have more roles than the bakery. Now, when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: you can laugh at that because that's funny because bakeries
Speaker 1: have rolls, bread rolls. But I know this girl has
Speaker 1: never forgotten that, and she wouldn't wear a swimsuit for
Speaker 1: fifteen years. It's because of one throwaway comment, and people
Speaker 1: need to really remember how powerful your words can be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally agree. It's so easy to be so casual
Speaker 1: in the way that we can leave comments. And so
Speaker 1: I think of like the girls who are on The Bachelorne.
Speaker 1: I know when I was on the series, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you copped it as well. But for example Abby,
Speaker 1: So I went onto Abby's Instagram and I thought, some
Speaker 1: of these comments are just vile. The people who are
Speaker 1: writing them probably didn't even think twice about that comment.
Speaker 1: They've been encouraged to do so by this mob mentality.
Speaker 1: Other people are doing it, so therefore it's fine that
Speaker 1: I do it, and it's not going to be my
Speaker 1: comment that tips someone over the edge. Well, actually it
Speaker 1: might be your comment that tips someone over the edge,
Speaker 1: or it might be a combination of all the comments.
Speaker 1: You don't know where someone is at in their personal journey,
Speaker 1: and they might be really, really struggling.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. I have never, in my life,
Speaker 2: hand on heart, can say I've never written anything nasty
Speaker 2: on somebody's post.
Speaker 1: That's because you're a nice person, Fritney, and you're even
Speaker 1: so even handed on this podcast. I say something bitchy
Speaker 1: and you're like, now, Laura, pull your head in, let's
Speaker 1: re record that I just couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2: I could never imagine wanting to make somebody feel horrible
Speaker 2: about themselves.
Speaker 1: You're assuming that everyone is as normal and considered as
Speaker 1: what you are. This is something that I was told
Speaker 1: to me when I was in the batchelor, and I
Speaker 1: think it was great advice. You might pass someone on
Speaker 1: the street and that person could be a full on
Speaker 1: smacky and by smacky, I mean like a crack at it,
Speaker 1: like they've got their own issues going on, and their
Speaker 1: issues are in no way reflection of what's going on
Speaker 1: with you. That person might call out to you from
Speaker 1: across the street and say you're fat and ugly, right,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna walk down the street and go, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going across the road and get the hell away
Speaker 1: from that person because they are crazy. That exact person
Speaker 1: might say you're fat and ugly to you on social media,
Speaker 1: but because they're under the veil of social media, you
Speaker 1: believe it. You read that and you think, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this person I don't know thinks I'm fat and ugly.
Speaker 1: Whereas had they said it to you in real life
Speaker 1: and in the context of whatever they're going through, you
Speaker 1: would think to yourself, I really don't care about that
Speaker 1: person's opinions. It doesn't affect me. But everyone is anonymous.
Speaker 1: It makes everyone even we think everyone comes from the
Speaker 1: same position. But people who are writing these awful things,
Speaker 1: they're not considered, they're not kind, they're not the sort
Speaker 1: of person that you would want to be friends with
Speaker 1: in the real world. So sometimes we need to take
Speaker 1: a step back and go, why do we care so
Speaker 1: much about the opinions of strangers? Why do we get
Speaker 1: so much validation from Instagram?
Speaker 2: On the other side of that, if you wouldn't on
Speaker 2: the street walk up to somebody and say you're so ugly,
Speaker 2: I hope you die, what makes you think it's okay
Speaker 2: to write it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I totally agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these keyboard warriors, they would. I can guarantee you
Speaker 2: the people that say these things would never walk up
Speaker 2: to you on the street face to face and say this, never,
Speaker 2: especially if you're in a group. But they get this
Speaker 2: ridiculous courage and go and blurt it all out on
Speaker 2: social media.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Social media? So Instagram specifically is
Speaker 1: bringing in a tool where it's got artificial intelligence. So
Speaker 1: if it thinks that you're saying something that's bullying, So
Speaker 1: if you write something in saying like you're fat and ugly,
Speaker 1: it'll ask you do you actually want to post this,
Speaker 1: and it will give you a second to consider the
Speaker 1: thing that you're posting in hope that some people will
Speaker 1: be considered enough to go, actually, do you know what
Speaker 1: that is mean? I'm not going to post it. I
Speaker 1: do like that Facebook is making some changes. However, I
Speaker 1: do think those changes are not great enough. I think
Speaker 1: we're too far down the pipeline of bullying in social
Speaker 1: media that they're not catching up quick enough. The leaps
Speaker 1: and bounds that Facebook are making to prevent people from
Speaker 1: doing this on their platform are not great enough.
Speaker 2: Yet. There's also the age old saying of treat people
Speaker 2: how you want to be treated, And it's so true.
Speaker 2: If you wouldn't want somebody telling you ripping you to
Speaker 2: shreds your appearance who you are as a person, If
Speaker 2: you wouldn't want that, why do you think it's okay
Speaker 2: to do that to somebody else?
Speaker 1: When you were in the Bachelor, did you find that
Speaker 1: you received any online bullying? Did this happen to you specifically? So?
Speaker 2: I did receive some, to be fair, probably the least
Speaker 2: out of everybody. So I can't complain, but I'm still
Speaker 2: going to because it wasn't good. So I was pretty
Speaker 2: event free until the very end. And there are a
Speaker 2: few days towards the end, which is when you actually
Speaker 2: reached out to me. That's why I remember, because you
Speaker 2: were just seeing some stuff that was quite nice. But
Speaker 2: the attacks on me, I don't know if I should
Speaker 2: say luckily or unluckily. Luckily were not about my appearance,
Speaker 2: but unluckily, which could be worse. It was about who
Speaker 2: I was as a person.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy that we value the way we look
Speaker 1: and what people think of our appearance more so than
Speaker 1: what people think of who who we are as a person.
Speaker 2: I think I was actually opposite in this. I was
Speaker 2: so upset that people were attacking my character because I
Speaker 2: take a lot of pride in who I am as
Speaker 2: a person. You could say what you want about my looks,
Speaker 2: it'll still upset me. But I'm more proud of who
Speaker 2: I am as a person. And yeah, you know the
Speaker 2: way I treat people, and I always try to treat
Speaker 2: people well, and people were just character assassinating me in
Speaker 2: the things I were saying. One or two people had
Speaker 2: said it at the start, and I thought, oh, I
Speaker 2: can brush that off.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: People were saying the same things, but every time someone
Speaker 2: added a comment it held a different weight to how
Speaker 2: it affected me. Yeah, so someone said it once, someone
Speaker 2: said it twice, someone said it three times, and I
Speaker 2: could brush it off. But at the five hundredth time,
Speaker 2: I thought, oh my god, I can't deal with this anymore.
Speaker 1: They've done research studies on social media in that it
Speaker 1: is so addictive. We are so addicted to the instant
Speaker 1: gratification that we get from validation from others. So we
Speaker 1: post a photo, we get likes and comments. That affirmation
Speaker 1: makes us feel good. It releases dopamine. That is the
Speaker 1: exact same reward system that we get from gambling. It's
Speaker 1: a drug and that we get from drugs and sugar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and sugar. This is Brittany speaking with her lipto a
Speaker 1: nice tea on the table. Here, we are being rewarded
Speaker 1: for using Instagram. We are becoming obsessed with it, and
Speaker 1: we are becoming addicted to it. It becomes problematic when
Speaker 1: we're seeking approval and complimentary comments from people who we
Speaker 1: don't know over the people who we actually do know
Speaker 1: in real life, our friends and our family and this
Speaker 1: is so true.
Speaker 2: But I remember my family saying to me, and I
Speaker 2: think you said it to me and my friends. Everyone
Speaker 2: that knows you brit knows that you're not like this,
Speaker 2: and everyone knows you who knows what sort of a
Speaker 2: person you are, and that's all that matters. And that's
Speaker 2: such a great thing to say. And I did know that,
Speaker 2: but there is still something different knowing. I remember just
Speaker 2: thinking the world Australia hates me right now, and that's
Speaker 2: just a lot of pressure on anybody to think that
Speaker 2: you're just so thoroughly disliked in that moment. So you
Speaker 2: know that their opinion doesn't matter. And anyone that's been
Speaker 2: online bullied you can be brave enough and strong enough
Speaker 2: and smart enough to know that these opinions don't have
Speaker 2: any substance, but that does not change the fact that
Speaker 2: it weighs on you heavily. So how did you feel
Speaker 2: and cope when you were being because you call quite
Speaker 2: heavily trolled at that time of your Bachelor finale, weren't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the unfortunate side of being on the Bachelor
Speaker 1: is that everyone is very black and white. People don't
Speaker 1: take the sort of position of oh, all these girls
Speaker 1: are really nice. I just want the bachelor to be happy.
Speaker 1: They go, I like this girl and all the other
Speaker 1: girls suck. And if you don't pick this girl, then
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. Will you become a character? People see
Speaker 1: you as characters and they forget you're real. Totally. The
Speaker 1: fan favorite of our season wasn't me. The fan favorite
Speaker 1: of our season was Tara, And so when it came
Speaker 1: to our finale night, Tara went home at number three,
Speaker 1: and in the finale it was Elise and I. And
Speaker 1: so when our episode finished, yes, we'd receive a lot
Speaker 1: of really positive and complimentary and supportive comments, but we
Speaker 1: also received a hell of a lot of negative comments,
Speaker 1: which seems crazy now because we're still together and we're
Speaker 1: so happy. But we received comments from people telling us
Speaker 1: that they hope we had cancer, that they hope we died.
Speaker 1: You know that Matt was an absolute idiot that you
Speaker 1: know he should have been with Tara, and.
Speaker 2: Right, so, you know, somebody, if you know someone is
Speaker 2: sitting at home writing to you saying I hope you
Speaker 2: die just because you found love, you know that they're
Speaker 2: an idiot, don't you. But it doesn't change that It.
Speaker 1: Hurts totally and on that so, on the night the
Speaker 1: Tara got Sent Home, which was the third last episode,
Speaker 1: I watch it with my girlfriends and I remember the
Speaker 1: onslaught of abuse Saturre happening towards Matt and towards me
Speaker 1: on our own private instagrams because people had assumed then
Speaker 1: that that meant I had won. And I sat in
Speaker 1: my bedroom and I bawled my eyes out, hysterically, my
Speaker 1: eyes out, because I should have been so happy to
Speaker 1: be able to start my relationship with this man I
Speaker 1: was in love with, but instead I sat there thinking,
Speaker 1: how on earth are we ever ever going to be
Speaker 1: able to make this relationship work when no one wants
Speaker 1: us to be together? And that's what it felt like.
Speaker 1: You genuinely felt like I want you to succeed, and
Speaker 1: I know that that's not the case. And now, looking back,
Speaker 1: everyone is complimentary. I just think that people are very
Speaker 1: reactional and they don't think about what they're writing because
Speaker 1: they're angry the show finishes. They're angry and they didn't
Speaker 1: go their way. And yes, it's this safety and numbers
Speaker 1: mentality that makes them think it's okay to write what
Speaker 1: they're writing because everybody else has written the same thing.
Speaker 2: Same thing with us. Brooke was the favorite from day
Speaker 2: one in ours, and when she went home at number three,
Speaker 2: also like Tara, that's when we all started to copy it.
Speaker 2: Nick copped it a lot. I mean, ultimately, he is
Speaker 2: there to find somebody that he wants to be with,
Speaker 2: so their choices should be their choices. But for Sophie
Speaker 2: and I Sophie, I don't know how much he actually copped.
Speaker 2: We both more just got like, well, of course he's
Speaker 2: never going to pick you guys, And now that Brook left,
Speaker 2: so we got a lot of that. But people just
Speaker 2: forget you're a real human basically that you're a character
Speaker 2: in a show. Everyone's vying for their character. If their
Speaker 2: character gets booted off, well then you know the world
Speaker 2: is ending.
Speaker 1: What do you think could be done to minimize bullying
Speaker 1: moving forward? Online?
Speaker 2: It's education, isn't it? Because there's only so much that
Speaker 2: you could Instagram or Facebook can do to monitor what
Speaker 2: people are saying.
Speaker 1: Well, I disagree. I think that they can do a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot more if they have artificial intelligence,
Speaker 1: which can ask you do you want to post this?
Speaker 1: Just like in our normal community in Australia, we have laws.
Speaker 1: If you break those laws, you get punished. On Instagram
Speaker 1: and Facebook, there's really not that many laws because there's
Speaker 1: not a two step verification process. I can just go
Speaker 1: and open up in your account for you email address.
Speaker 2: Well, I do definitely agree, But my point is it's
Speaker 2: almost like prevention is the best cure. We shouldn't have
Speaker 2: to be blaming them for not doing enough to stop
Speaker 2: people being nasty. We should be trying to stop the
Speaker 2: people being nasty, and I think that starts with our
Speaker 2: younger generations and just educating people. I totally agree with you,
Speaker 2: and so that's what that's what I speak about when
Speaker 2: I speak to these youths with Beautiful Minds, And that's
Speaker 2: why I love this company, Beautiful Minds, because they are
Speaker 2: going to call about.
Speaker 1: What beautiful Minds is, Brittany.
Speaker 2: Well, they're just going to the core, so to school
Speaker 2: children and speaking to them about everything in mental health,
Speaker 2: dealing with online and growing up. But something I have
Speaker 2: spoken to them about girls particularly is being a kind
Speaker 2: person and knowing that every single thing you say to
Speaker 2: someone in real life and online will stay with them forever.
Speaker 2: So I think that is a really huge thing we
Speaker 2: should be really getting into our youths so that the
Speaker 2: time they grow up they're not assholes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree completely.
Speaker 2: But also Instagram does have something that I put into
Speaker 2: play when I was finishing The Bachelor, and that is
Speaker 2: you can type in keywords.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can type in keywords. So I typed in.
Speaker 2: I think I even typed in whale, fat, slight, bitch, whale,
Speaker 2: every negative word that you could think of that someone
Speaker 2: might say to you that you don't want to hear.
Speaker 2: You can type it in and it will block those words.
Speaker 2: So if someone's typing that sentence, they get a warning.
Speaker 1: Oh so it doesn't block, it gets a word, Well,
Speaker 1: it stops, and I'm actually posting that it wecifically it
Speaker 1: will yeah, like they'll no, I think they get one
Speaker 1: warning and then it will be deleted. Wow okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like a bullying filter. Well that's how accurate
Speaker 1: it is. But I definitely put it on, and I
Speaker 1: do think that those sorts of things need to be
Speaker 1: used because there has to be The owners shouldn't always
Speaker 1: fall on the person who's receiving the abuse. It shouldn't
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, you're being abused, call or you
Speaker 1: should block people, because that's just not enough. There needs
Speaker 1: to be some other systems in place so that the
Speaker 1: people who are copying the victims of this abuse have
Speaker 1: tools to be able to protect themselves.
Speaker 2: And you know, the crazy thing is to you just
Speaker 2: when you're a victim of that, you can't win. So
Speaker 2: you might think, Okay, I'm going to delete the comment
Speaker 2: to protect myself, and then another troll come and say, oh,
Speaker 2: look at her. She can't even handle it. She's deleting
Speaker 2: her comments. Of course they're deleting their comments. They don't
Speaker 2: want this negativity sitting on their page for them to
Speaker 2: look at every day. Totally, so there's no way to
Speaker 2: win it at the moment.
Speaker 1: If you are having a really really hard time, now
Speaker 1: this is not the end and it's not always going
Speaker 1: to be like this, give yourself the opportunity for things
Speaker 1: to get better, because anything that can spiral down can
Speaker 1: always spiral back up.
Speaker 2: A few other things you can do is to you
Speaker 2: can always just block somebody, but you can also use
Speaker 2: this filter that helps filter some words. If you're actually
Speaker 2: experiencing that length of trouble, you can also there are
Speaker 2: apps you can do now that ban you from using
Speaker 2: Instagram or Facebook for a certain timeframe, So you can
Speaker 2: say I only want to use it for one hour
Speaker 2: in the morning, don't let me onto it for the day,
Speaker 2: only let me onto it for an hour at night.
Speaker 2: So it's forced. It's forcing you to limit your use.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's forcing people to break the addiction cycle.
Speaker 1: Thing I was thinking was interesting. I thought, if Instagram
Speaker 1: has artificial intelligence where they can stop people from writing
Speaker 1: comments that are bulliant comments, maybe they could go a
Speaker 1: step further and use that artificial intelligence to know when
Speaker 1: a photo's been photoshopped. So, for example, if you've put
Speaker 1: your photo into face tune and you've smoothed your skin
Speaker 1: and pinched your waist in, then maybe in the future,
Speaker 1: Instagram could set it up so that they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we know that this has been doctored, so we're going
Speaker 1: to put a little symbol on this so that people
Speaker 1: know that this is a photoshopped photo.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, there's no way they'll ever
Speaker 2: ban it, but that could be something people are now.
Speaker 2: Even I've seen a few accounts where people who are
Speaker 2: actually photoshopping themselves into destinations like they're on holidays. They're
Speaker 2: not even on the holiday.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy. It just shows you how that's how
Speaker 1: much of social media is actually fat.
Speaker 2: That's just so sad for that person.
Speaker 1: Turn off your phones, go to a coffee shop and
Speaker 1: meet some goddamn real people.
Speaker 2: On the serious notes. To tie this up, guys, almost
Speaker 2: half of Australians literally forty five percent will experience mental
Speaker 2: illness in their lifetime. That is a huge number.
Speaker 1: Insane. It's insane.
Speaker 2: And it's not just Cyberboyne and depression online. That's all
Speaker 2: sorts of depression, all age groups. In light of Ruok
Speaker 2: Day which was last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it ties in so nicely to that.
Speaker 2: It ties in nicely, and I think that you shouldn't
Speaker 2: just have to wait for the one day to ask
Speaker 2: your friend or a stranger or a colleague if they're okay.
Speaker 2: It can go a really, really long way. So if
Speaker 2: you're seeing any signs from anybody, or if this discussion
Speaker 2: today has tapped into any feelings for you that are
Speaker 2: making you feel a bit unsettled, or it has brought
Speaker 2: anything to the surface, please speak to somebody. There's also
Speaker 2: a lifeline number thirteen eleven forty four that.
Speaker 1: You could call. Guys, it is time for our favorite
Speaker 1: part of the episode, ask gun cut. We have had
Speaker 1: so many people right in with their questions, and it
Speaker 1: is amazing that you trust us with your relationship to barcles,
Speaker 1: because I mean, we don't have any qualifications, but we
Speaker 1: really thrive on giving relationship advice. So thank you for
Speaker 1: trusting us with this. Brittany has picked out two. I
Speaker 1: don't know what these questions are yet, so I'm coming
Speaker 1: and cold.
Speaker 2: Also, I'd just like to make a note. I know
Speaker 2: you say we don't have any qualifications, but god damn,
Speaker 2: we got some experience.
Speaker 1: I have so much experience it's frightening. Please come at
Speaker 1: me with the first question, Brittany.
Speaker 2: I've been on a few dates with this guy and
Speaker 2: I really like him. He was from Tinder. We got
Speaker 2: along so well and things felt really natural. But after
Speaker 2: the last date I wasn't really feeling it. He said
Speaker 2: that girls that have slept with multiple guys are sluts.
Speaker 2: He used that word so casually, as though it meant
Speaker 2: nothing at all. I really hate the word, and I
Speaker 2: felt a bit uncomfortable by it, to be honest, for me,
Speaker 2: that kind of gave me a bit of doubt about him,
Speaker 2: and I didn't find it respectful at all. What should
Speaker 2: I do? Do I give him another go? Do I
Speaker 2: give him the flick? What are your thoughts, Laura?
Speaker 1: If you've walked away from that conversation with an erkie
Speaker 1: feeling this guy sounds like a misogynistic pig.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, but who is he to say if
Speaker 2: a woman has slept with multiple men to the slot,
Speaker 2: why is that any different than if a man sleeps
Speaker 2: with multiple women?
Speaker 1: Because he has double standards?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm sorry, listener, I don't think this guy's
Speaker 2: for you. I don't think the guys for anyone for
Speaker 2: his thoughts, because he's not going to find someone that
Speaker 2: is a forty year old virgin.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he might. He might. He might, But
Speaker 1: for him to be able to put labels on something
Speaker 1: like that is a way for him to one he's
Speaker 1: trying to test whether or not you have and to
Speaker 1: get your reaction from that. By the sounds of things,
Speaker 1: this guy is looking for someone who is submissive and
Speaker 1: subordinate to him. I mean, this is not the nineteen forties.
Speaker 1: You can have whatever sexual partners you want. It doesn't
Speaker 1: define you as a person, it doesn't necessarily put you
Speaker 1: into any labeled category that you don't want to be in.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're exploring your sexuality to figure out what it
Speaker 1: is that you want. It doesn't mean that you're not
Speaker 1: going to then be in a committed relationship later on
Speaker 1: down the track. And who is he to put that
Speaker 1: label on you? And I'm sorry, but anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he went up to one of his friends
Speaker 2: and said, how many people have you slept with, guys like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've just hit fifty, can guarantee you he'd high five him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's some really really biased slut shaming going on.
Speaker 1: And I just think there are plenty of other guys
Speaker 1: to choose from. If this is your early door's date
Speaker 1: and you're already experiencing things like this coming out of
Speaker 1: his mouth, then he needs to check himself and you
Speaker 1: need to check yourself and check the hell out of there,
Speaker 1: because this is not where it's This is not where
Speaker 1: it ends. This is definitely where it starts. Yep, it's
Speaker 1: basically a no from me. It's a big ass no
Speaker 1: from me. Okay, I'm glad that we agreed on that one, Brandy.
Speaker 1: Now number two, number two, this is a bit of
Speaker 1: a different one. Not necessarily relationship advice but I liked
Speaker 1: this because I think it's relevant the transition of turning thirty,
Speaker 1: hitting in an age, and your life doesn't look like
Speaker 1: you thought it would. How do you deal with that
Speaker 1: and manage your expectations of not being where you thought
Speaker 1: you would be? All right? So, firstly, what I have
Speaker 1: to say to you, my friend, my dear listener is
Speaker 1: gird friend. You are thirty. You are not twenty five.
Speaker 2: As two people that are in their thirties, I think
Speaker 2: life begins at thirty.
Speaker 1: I'll probably say that again at forty. It really does.
Speaker 1: I wasn't where I wanted to be at thirty either.
Speaker 1: I was single, I was running around in circles with
Speaker 1: my business. I had just dated a really, really questionable
Speaker 1: guy who treated me like I wasn't worthy of anything.
Speaker 1: And now I'm in another position later in life and
Speaker 1: I'm really really happy. Things change rapidly. When you meet
Speaker 1: the right person, things can click very very quickly. You
Speaker 1: don't have to have timelines and everything in your life.
Speaker 1: You should be able to be happy and accepting of
Speaker 1: where you're at when you're there. So whatever it is
Speaker 1: that you're doing as a thirty year old, you need
Speaker 1: to find happiness in that.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not where I thought I would be at thirty,
Speaker 2: but that's not a bad thing. I potentially am in
Speaker 2: a better place than I thought I would be at thirty.
Speaker 2: So sure, I thought i'd probably be married, white, pick
Speaker 2: of fans, maybe a child, probably twenty five dogs. But
Speaker 2: I don't have any of that. But that's not a
Speaker 2: bad thing. So I'm not where I thought it would be.
Speaker 2: But I'm starting my own business. I'm doing this with you.
Speaker 2: I'm still traveling the world. I'm exploring the opportunities that
Speaker 2: I never dreamt I could have, and that's because I've
Speaker 2: been open to the opportunities and accepting of what the
Speaker 2: universe is giving me. So you can't change the fact
Speaker 2: that you have just turned thirty and you're not where
Speaker 2: you thought you'd be. You can't change that, but you
Speaker 2: can go work towards doing things to make you happy,
Speaker 2: totally work towards where you want to be.
Speaker 1: Things can change. In an instance, you could be thirty,
Speaker 1: you could be married, you could have a kid, and
Speaker 1: all it takes is for one thing to go bad,
Speaker 1: for one thing to happen, for your entire life to
Speaker 1: be thrown off course, and for you to be in
Speaker 1: this exact situation where you aren't where you thought you
Speaker 1: were going to be. That's just life. We can't control it,
Speaker 1: and we need to be able to find happiness at
Speaker 1: every step along the way. Trust in the journey of
Speaker 1: your life and trust what is happening around you that
Speaker 1: you are exactly where you're meant to be. Definitely, it's
Speaker 1: just a big part of trusting the universe, really, isn't it. Yes?
Speaker 1: Trust us? Trust guys. We feel so privileged that you
Speaker 1: trust us with your questions and we will pick out
Speaker 1: some more questions next week to answer. So please, if
Speaker 1: you have some relationship or some live questions that you
Speaker 1: would like us to air on our podcast, then please
Speaker 1: go to our instagram. It's at Life Uncut Podcast. You
Speaker 1: can slide into our dms and send us a question.
Speaker 1: We will, of course keep you anonymous and hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: answer it.
Speaker 2: Thanks week. All right, Laura, are you ready for our
Speaker 2: next segment, Suck and Sweet?
Speaker 1: I love Suck and Sweet. Brett. How is your week?
Speaker 1: I know you do.
Speaker 2: My week's been really good. Actually I have zero complaints,
Speaker 2: but I'll just jump straight on in hey with my suck. Basically,
Speaker 2: people online dating or idiots.
Speaker 1: Oh no, what's happened? What to do? That's nothing I did.
Speaker 1: I love that you automatically think it was me. I
Speaker 1: like live through you for your dating story, So please
Speaker 1: tell me more.
Speaker 2: I could literally write a book on my life.
Speaker 1: And how is online dating these days? What's the quality
Speaker 1: of men out there?
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can post process and like
Speaker 2: put a beep in, but it's fucked up. I we
Speaker 2: swear on this podcast. It's fine, all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 1: It's odd, it's too much.
Speaker 2: I'm not really dating anyone from there at the moment
Speaker 2: because these are the sort of openers I get.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I live for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is this is a baller. This one
Speaker 2: first line, he says, I really think you are what
Speaker 2: you eat. So when do I become you? Brittany? Now
Speaker 2: I think that through for a minute. Do you get.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Hornbag? Calm down. You will not be eating anything wow
Speaker 2: remotely close to me.
Speaker 1: And it's disgusting. Can you? But this is the thing,
Speaker 1: this is the time that hurts my brain.
Speaker 2: It hurts my ovaries.
Speaker 1: I don't think you wanted to eat your ovaries, Brittany.
Speaker 1: He probably would have they're a bit far up inside
Speaker 1: there anyway. That's really really well, I'm gonna say that,
Speaker 1: how's your date?
Speaker 2: Good one?
Speaker 1: You're welcome, you're here all day? That's so shitty. Do
Speaker 1: these lines ever work for anyone? I wonder? I wonder, do.
Speaker 2: You know what actually, if you guys have some real
Speaker 2: bangers opening liners from on.
Speaker 1: When we say bangers, BRIT's not trying to hit on you.
Speaker 1: If you have some cracker one liners, right into us,
Speaker 1: because I want to compile a few. Maybe we'll read
Speaker 1: them out sometimes. So if you've got some real crackers,
Speaker 1: send them in, send us. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: these as well. Yeah, I might have to start compiling
Speaker 1: me another one. Do you have some more?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, I had so many, but now put
Speaker 2: on the spot, I can't think of.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was your suck?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Well give me your sweet because that was pretty gross.
Speaker 1: Can I say suck now after that? Because that was
Speaker 1: a pretty gross.
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 1: Give me your sweet girlfriend? All right?
Speaker 2: My sweet's an easy one. I stayed in bed today
Speaker 2: until about ten thirty am, and I could not tell
Speaker 2: you the last time in my existence. Now that has happened.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this from you. This just me. No,
Speaker 1: this is like you gloating. You can't say to someone
Speaker 1: who has a three month old baby that you stayed
Speaker 1: in bed to t a. I don't think I can
Speaker 1: say anything sides cry. I don't even remember what sleep
Speaker 1: is anymore.
Speaker 2: Would it be better if I said something like I
Speaker 2: went for a walk in silence. That hurts us as much,
Speaker 2: doesn't it?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it hurts. I can't say anything to you.
Speaker 1: Just tell me that your nipples are cracked and all
Speaker 1: make me feel better.
Speaker 2: My nipples are amazing, Oh, for God's sake, So I'm going.
Speaker 1: And I don't wet my pants either. All right, Brinnan,
Speaker 1: you're on your own. I've got a few sucks for
Speaker 1: this week, don't I.
Speaker 2: All right, bring him?
Speaker 1: What's your suck? Okay, So my suck for this week
Speaker 1: it's not nothing to do with my nipples or my
Speaker 1: pelic floor, thank you very much. My suck for this
Speaker 1: week is Matt and I have both been really, really
Speaker 1: insanely busy with work and life and everything else, and
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's one area of my life
Speaker 1: that I have not been giving enough attention to, and
Speaker 1: I feel really guilty.
Speaker 2: For that is Matt feeling neglected.
Speaker 1: I don't think he would ever say that he's feeling neglected,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I've neglected him, and it makes
Speaker 1: me feel bad, makes me feel like I'm a shitty partner,
Speaker 1: which I know I'm not. But the reality is is
Speaker 1: that it's quite difficult sometimes to juggle work and baby
Speaker 1: and h podcasting and relationshiping and all of the inning
Speaker 1: in your life. And I just feel like a little
Speaker 1: bit at the moment that I haven't been giving Matt
Speaker 1: and our relationship the attention that it deserves. And I
Speaker 1: feel guilty for that. And so that is something I
Speaker 1: know that I'm going to spend way more time on
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like now that you've voiced it and
Speaker 2: put it out to Australia, it's also going to make
Speaker 2: you want to work on it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I already want to work on it. I just
Speaker 1: was really conscious of it today, like I, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been busy all day and that I came home,
Speaker 1: I just kind of like passed Maley to him. Then
Speaker 1: I ran out the door to come and do this,
Speaker 1: and we've just kind of like had a kiss on
Speaker 1: the doorway on the way out. And it just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just really had a bit of a
Speaker 1: reflection in the car on the way here where I thought,
Speaker 1: I miss my partner and I want to spend more
Speaker 1: time with him. You know, you don't get to spend
Speaker 1: as much time with your partner when you've got a baby,
Speaker 1: because it becomes less about the two of you together
Speaker 1: and becomes more about survival.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nice, Yeah, So what's your sweet?
Speaker 1: My sweet for this week, which actually is going to
Speaker 1: add to my suck unfortunately, my sweet for this week
Speaker 1: is that my sister and I and her little nephew
Speaker 1: or my little nephew. That was weird. So my sister
Speaker 1: and I and her baby, So my nephew and Marley,
Speaker 1: the four of us are going to Townsville on the
Speaker 1: weekend to go and stay with my dad, which will
Speaker 1: be so nice. I haven't been to Townsville so long.
Speaker 1: My dad lives on a tiny island there called Magnetic Island,
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's like island life, island life. It'll be
Speaker 1: Marley's first time like in the ocean, singing sand and
Speaker 1: I'm just really story doesn't go to Bondi. It's been cold.
Speaker 1: It's been flipping cold. No, So I'm just excited to
Speaker 1: go and spend some time with my family.
Speaker 2: Right, so, my stuck next week we'll probably be looking
Speaker 2: at all your Magnetic Island photos.
Speaker 1: Great. Your suck next week will be that I'm not
Speaker 1: here to keep you company.
Speaker 2: What am I going to do?
Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
Speaker 2: Guys? That is it from us, even though we absolutely
Speaker 2: love doing this. It's like a highlight of the week.
Speaker 2: So if you enjoyed, you know the deal.
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