WEBVTT - Online bullying and that Jese Nelson doco 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.480 Hi, guys, and welcome to another episode of Life Uncut. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.840 I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and today, well, we're gearing 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:23.360 up for a Bachelor. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.760 FINALI na I love FINALI. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.760 Week, Britte. I'm more excited about this finale than what 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:28.960 I was about my own finale. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.040 Why is that because you knew the ending for your finale? 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.160 Door, I didn't know? Oh yeah actually at the time. Wow, 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.199 should I stop that? No? 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.120 Please? That was the best thing that's ever happened. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.400 Am I still asleep? Probably? I'm just really invested in 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.040 this season, so I really really want to see how 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:45.520 these final two episodes go down. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.680 I think I know anyway, I'm not going to say it, 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:48.440 but I think I know. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.080 Well, is that because of the editing? 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.760 Yeah, for a multitude of reasons, some editing and also 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.480 just the girls that I think is more suited to 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:57.240 our boy Matt. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:01.760 So you don't have any actual insider one percent guarantee 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.960 lockdown info. You just have spidy sensors. Yeah, and that's 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:05.520 what you're going on. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.279 Complete spidy sensors. Guys. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.560 We're in for some batchchat today, but we're also going 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.000 to be talking about something a little bit heavier, and 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:14.760 I think in light of the fact that it is 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.240 finale night coming up, we're going to be talking about 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.200 online bullying. There's this great documentary that's just come out. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.240 We really highly recommend it. It's on BBC one. It 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.119 is about Little Mixtar Jesse Nelson. It's called The Odd 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.360 One Out and it's all about online bullying that she received. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.399 It really can happen to anyone, and celebrities are not 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.760 immune to this level of online bullying and abuse and 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.480 the way that it can really affect life, and for 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.360 her it spired her laugh out of control. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.000 I really really loved watching this documentary and I'm excited 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.680 to delve into it and share it with everyone. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:47.319 Me too. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.920 But apart from that, did you see There's something else 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:55.200 in the water again? Because two more Batchy babes got engaged. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.840 I did see this, and they're both from my seats, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.600 both from your season. Everyone is getting. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.920 Married, so it was a Laura and Tara, A Laura. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.960 And Tara, and I'm so happy for the two of them. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.680 I mean, Tara had a bit of a raft saying 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.640 yes after her Batching Paradise experience with Sam, and I 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.040 think we all saw that play out in the media. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.679 She has been incredibly happy with her new partner, who 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.760 doesn't live in the reality TV bubble at all. He's 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:23.040 just a really great, normal guy and now they're getting married. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.799 So are you connected with either of those girls at all? Still? 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.880 I haven't spoken to a Laura at all since the 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.320 show finished. And Tara I have seen because we both 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.160 went to Kobe's baby shower. But our season has just 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.160 been the season of successful relationships everyone who's come out 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.280 of it. Mate, don't rub it in, baby, you're on 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:44.359 the wrong, yeah, am I? Yeah, but I wouldn't have 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.600 wanted to be up against you. Could you imagine we 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.280 would not be sitting here doing this podcast. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.160 Imagine if it was you and me. I mean, it 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.960 was always he was always going to imagine that it 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.920 was you from day dot No. But that's really good 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.840 that they got engaged. But I think I do think 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.840 it's hilarious that will happen on the same day. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.320 On the same day, way to steal each other's under 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.440 Who announced it first? Daily Mail? I don't know. I 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.440 think Tar Daily Fail. I think Tara got in there first. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.520 And then I mean I saw it from Daily Mail 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.280 before I saw it on Instagram. Isn't that ridiculous? Yeah, 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.280 it's crazy. That's where I get my news source, isn't 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.440 it doesn't me. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.120 You didn't even know what your ending was when you 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:17.680 were watching it. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.520 Oh, leave me alone. I'm very tired, guys. I know 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.200 I complained about this every week, but now Mally's going 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.720 through her four months sleep regression. So anyone who's a 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.480 parent who's listening to this will really sympathize with the 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.000 fact that I now get about four hours sleep a week. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.200 So two episodes ago, when I said that my sweet 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.120 for the week was that Marley was sleeping like an angel. Yeah, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.640 well that came back to bite me in the ass, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.320 didn't It always? Does? It always? 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.080 This morning, actually, Lauren that you went and did a 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.040 little work out, your first work out with bitting a 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.320 few friends. But I noticed that you said you didn't 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.400 wie yourself and that you were really stoked about that. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.040 So I just wanted to shout out and congra congratulate 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:53.400 you on that. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.200 You're congratulating me on my public pulor muscles. Yeah, thank you. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.000 I really do like that's something that I need to 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.960 be congratulated on. I've got that under control. Literally, I'm 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.440 staate for you. Thanks me too, Me too. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.160 So what else grubed your attention this week in the media. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.160 Oh look, this one is a little bit controversial. I 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.560 know that I need to tread a little bit carefully 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.280 with this. Emotions run very, very high when Ellie went 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.240 home from last week's episode of The Bachelor. There was 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.520 a lot of hurt and hate flying around on the internet, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.360 which is kind of good. Way we're talking about online 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.000 bullying this week. However, there was one thing that stood 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:27.640 out to me, and like I said, I really do 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.240 feel like I need to be sensitive in the way 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.359 that I say this just for fear of putting a 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.880 step in correctly with this. But I did see that 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.359 Georgia Love tweeted after the show had finished and if 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.160 you have some small kids around, then maybe block there 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:42.720 ears because there is a little bit of a sea 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.359 language here. She wrote, fuck you, Matt, don't at me. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.920 And that was because Matt agnew our Batchie, our Astrobatchie, 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.400 had sent home Ellie and obviously she was very upset 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.080 about it, as was the rest of Australia. However, the 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.599 fact that Georgia Love had said this really grind my gears. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.280 Well, it's a pretty controversial thing to say from anybody, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.520 but from somebody that has been in that exact position. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.200 Well, I think my issue with it didn't so much 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.880 come from she's offering criticism. I mean, it's totally okay 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.320 to not be an abby fan and to be upset 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.160 that you know your favorite character is going home. However, 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.040 language is really really important. She didn't set of say hey, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.479 this isn't cool. She chose to use obscenities and basically 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.960 verbally abuse Matt for his choices. Think sets a really 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.479 really low bar, and it also then validates anybody else 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.560 who wants to sling abuse at him, which is just 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.440 not the example that we should be setting when we 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.920 have been in that position before. The thing that really 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.000 struck me as being hypocritical with this one is that 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.680 number five was Cam Cramley in her season, and Cam 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:53.760 is the fireman. Everybody in Australia Free King loves Cam. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.360 He is wonderful, and Georgia loves sent him home and 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.760 didn't bring him onto hometowns. And I know that she 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:01.920 a lot of flak at that point in time because 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.760 she was following her heart. So as much as I 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:09.120 do question Matt's decisions in keeping Abby in the show. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.120 I still think it's a bit of a situation where 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:14.760 it's pot calling kettle, and I just think as a 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.960 journalist and as someone who really understands the power of language, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.760 I expected more than that. That's my thoughts. Yeah, Okay, 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.520 what do you think, am am? I nitpicking at this? 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:29.279 Whoever says something like this is definitely setting a standard 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.880 example that it's okay to do it, especially someone in 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.599 the media in the public eye, which I think is wrong. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.520 But also been in her position, We've all been. I 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.800 mean I haven't been on that end as in Bachelorette, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.760 but I have been through the whole thing and been 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.720 standing at the end, and you know that what she's 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:47.360 seen isn't the whole story. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.200 People are definitely. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:54.680 Edited in a certain way in both extremes, good and bad, favorites, villains, everyone. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.160 I mean, there's also always some truth to things, but 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.279 essentially she knows that what's been presented to us isn't 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.160 always the whole story in any situation. So for her 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.599 to just jump on that train and sort of hurl 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.960 this verbal abuse, I don't think it's fantastic. I don't 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.480 think it's a fantastic example. No, I think it's fair 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:11.320 call to bring that up. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.239 Yeah, so since we're talking about bit of online bullying today, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.720 that was what made me think, Man, I'm just gonna 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:17.560 point this one out. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.320 Yeah, definitely tizing well, and we'll jump into that straight 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:21.920 after if you want to. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:29.960 Do that to be cab this again, I don't know 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.480 whether I'll let it that out or keep that in. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.840 I could keep really offensive and keep that bad boyant. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.760 Should we all take a moment's silence for Ellie because 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.840 quite honestly, that was a very, very very sad episode. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.120 I like what you're doing there, but silence doesn't work 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.680 in podcasts, so we're going to have to scrap that 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:46.600 rap Ellie. 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.400 Yeah, and just take a moment to appreciate that ridiculous 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.640 date where they blindfolded each other and had to hug 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.560 each other. He had to guess the chemistry, the chemistry 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.800 through the hug. There's a big difference between all of 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.680 those girls in high shape, what they're wearing. Some of 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.360 them had sleeves, some of them didn't. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:05.280 Some of them had. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:06.800 Huge boobs, others don't. 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.360 Like you know, I reckon, maybe Ellie and Abby would 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.000 be similar in their in their builds, do you think. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.480 But I think that's probably shorter. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.120 But would you know that though when you're blind, she's 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.520 got to bend down. And then Elena's tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.840 and Chelsea's got super long hair, so you would feel 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.240 these types of things, Yeah, I think, But I mean 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.600 it really wouldn't kind of play into the storyline. If 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.440 Matt was like, well, I knew exactly who which one 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.920 of you were, and Abby, it's you again. I want 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.960 to take you on another day. I think you would 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.160 have known Abby from the chloring in the back as well. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:37.600 I know. And did you see that he was like 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:42.240 sweating down his back. That's Abby peel As. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.360 There was just so much of I didn't know if 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.680 I was laughing, crying on cringing, but it was. It 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:48.440 was pretty amusing. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.920 They always hate the setup where the girls are expected 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.280 to sit there and watch it playback. It's just so uncomfortable. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.040 We actually had that on our series, but they didn't 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.640 end up showing us sitting and watching the girls. They 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.320 had to write a letter to old mate Maddie Jay 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.440 and then read this letter out, and we had to 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.959 sit behind the screen and critique the girls. They actually 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.400 ended up removing it all together because I think it 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:12.760 just came across as so bitchy. But it didn't matter 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.760 who was saying anything. It was just a really bitchy setup. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.360 So they did that in my season too, but this 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.839 was intense. It was probably the only group date I 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.079 think I didn't go on, and I'm so glad I didn't. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.360 So Nick had to sit on a couch with each 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.040 girl individually in front of a human light detector. So 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.680 this guy had worked like the FBI. He was insane, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.000 and all the other girls had to watch on through 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.920 a glass through a glass window on a TV to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.200 see who was like, how the girls reacted to the questions, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.400 who was lying? He was telling porky pies all this. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.199 So my question is, why the hell didn't they put 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.360 Nick on a light detector? Are you here to grow 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.400 your profile? No? 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.520 Are you going to pick anybody? 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.160 Then? Yes, Matt, are you here to find love? Genuinely? 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.720 The poor thing probably would have been electrocuted? Okay, So 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.480 that was why did any how did it turn out? 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.120 Was it a good outcome or was everyone super nervous 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:03.480 about it? 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.440 No, everybody was super nervous, And you could hear and 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.880 see their voices shaking, and I'm so I have nothing 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.000 to hide, but I'm super glad I wasn't on it. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.200 Yeah. I think for me that I would be more 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.840 stressed about what if the outcome was wrong and the 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.160 lie detector was incorrect and me not trusting this. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.800 Well, it wasn't a lie detector. It was just this 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.400 man being like me, yeah, totally. Oh your heart rates elevated. Well, yeah, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.960 of course it is. I'm shitting myself anyway. You have 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.000 to laugh now, but I don't think anyone's laughing at 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:28.600 the time. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.960 So Ellie got the extra time. The thing that I 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.040 don't like about the setup on this is that I 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.280 don't think Ellie would have necessarily brought up Abby again. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.360 I think she would have been asked and prompted to 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.320 bring it up, and then she's being victimized for bringing 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.679 it up. Because you always sort of start your conversations 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.160 where you've left off your last conversation. That's what you're 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.480 encouraged to do. So the fact that they had had 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.200 their last conversation at the cocktail party about Abby, it's 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.080 only natural that that would have been a rehash in 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.520 this episode, and so I think she really got an 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.960 nail in the coffin, just because she was kind of 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.000 doing what she probably was told that she had to do. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.440 Unfortunately, Yeah, that again happened on my season. They sort 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.079 of do make it. They're like, well, this is how 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:12.760 the last episode ended, so you need to pick it 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.120 up like this, And I remember saying if it's a continuity, yeah, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.679 I remember saying it doesn't matter to me. I'm not 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.560 going to talk about it anymore. And Nick asked the 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:22.320 question and they had to cut it out because I 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.640 went really, Nick, like, you're really going to go back 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.920 and talk about this again? And he's like, I brute, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:27.480 like I have to. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.559 Yeah. So for those who watched it and sort of thought, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.600 oh my god, I can't believe she's banging on about 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.840 this again, my heart really did go out for Ellie 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.679 a little bit, because I do think that she would 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.840 have been prompted. We just didn't see that prompting. And 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.920 then I think that was probably what made her so 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.640 sure that Abby was going home and not Ellie, because 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.280 she was so confident in that episode that it was 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:48.439 not her going home. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.760 Yeah, don't think she saw that coming, not. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.120 At all, and so Abby got the single date on 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.960 that episode. And they went and they did that Matt's 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.000 movers what was that? They moved house and of course 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.680 there was going to be a bed. That was the 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.360 most budget single date I have ever seen in my 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.959 entire life. Literally, Art department were like, oh freak, we've 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.600 got no money left. Oh well, just all we need 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:11.080 is a bed. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.240 Throw that in there, we'll see what happens. Hey by 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.920 played foot golf. It's a made up sport. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.360 It's a made up sport. Did you like what a 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.080 golf ball? That was all they had for a budget, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:22.319 so they like, was not a golf ball, it's a 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.160 soccerball on a golf course. Oh wow, but that was 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.920 so funny, and you budget you saw it coming. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.959 You saw they were going to trip onto the bed. 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.600 And it's like a sort of like a corny rom 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:34.360 com a little bit. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.280 It really was. It was like watching an episode of Friends, Yes, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.160 but not as good, not as well, not as funny, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.600 So off Friends? What? Yeah, I don't know. There's so 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.840 many like who are you? There's so many dated references. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.880 It's just so homophobic all the time. That's totally another podcast. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.600 You need to just accept it for what it is, 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:53.480 and when it was. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.520 Who's the one that is that Ross that has the kid? 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.120 And then he's angry that his kid likes. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.840 Barbie ROSSI is my least favorite character. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.000 It just makes no sense to me. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.240 Rachel is my buck could be anyone in Hollywood. I 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.600 would be Jennifer Aniston a series called Friends. Those friends 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.000 are actually pretty shitty towards each other, and I don't 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:09.679 really like it. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.959 Anyway. That's my thought on Friends. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.200 Twins for the other one. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.880 All right, that's a pretty nice thing to do. I 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.920 didn't watch enough of it. I just watched one episode 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.720 and I was like, this is really homophobic. I don't 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.360 like this, and I turned it off. Let's get back 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.000 to the bund. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:24.000 Anyway. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:25.880 So hey guys, I know you've come here for my 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.840 opinion on nineties TV shows, So you're. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.800 Right, let's go back cut Friends. Anyway. We're in this 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.040 little fantastic furniture and they're having a romp on the bed. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.400 What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, is there a 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.400 better place to romp? My question is what are your 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.320 thoughts on Abby and the way that she has been edited? 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:50.480 Ooh, I think she's been edited probably a lot harsher 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.040 than she deserves, and I think she probably has drawn 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.320 a bit of a short straw, because when you think 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.479 about it, I tried to really put this into perspective. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.320 I don't think she's actually anything that's that nasty or mean. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.719 All she's done really is been very confident in who 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.160 she is and what she wants and very sexual. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.600 I was thinking this the other day as well. She's 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.040 not actually done anything really wrong, whereas all of our 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.520 villains in the past have always done something wrong. They've 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.160 always been actually mean people as villains. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.440 Well, she's done a few little things like cutting the 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.880 other girl's grass, where she's quickly going cutting in front 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:27.880 of them to take Matt, and doing things like that 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.160 that are just not fantastic. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.240 That in respects to that though, she says, well, I'm 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.200 here for Matt and I'm not here for my friendships 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:34.760 with these girls. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.840 She's been honest about it. She's like, yeah, I'm selfish 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.480 because she's quite a spade of spade she has throughout 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.240 the whole thing. We as a population just haven't really 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:43.680 accepted that. Yeah. 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.240 I do think though that they are keeping a lot 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.560 of her sexual advances in And I had this conversation 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.600 with Matt because I sort of said, oh my god, 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.080 she's so over the top, like I never said anything 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.520 like that to you. And Matt said to me the 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.640 other day, he was like, Laura, do you not remember 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:02.080 on our last day we were on like some kayak 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.160 thing in the middle of Thailand. I remember that? And 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.120 I told him I wanted to sit on his face. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.840 And then obviously never made it to air, did you yea? 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.240 I know I was half joking. No, I was being 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.400 super inappropriate, but why so because I'd spent three and 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.240 a half months with a lot of sexual tension and 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.440 I said it as a joke. I really did say 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.680 it as a joke. But obviously they could have used 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.920 low There was probably a little bit of something in there, 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:27.880 but they could have used it, and they chose not 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.520 to use it. Had they chosen to use that, that 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.760 would have absolutely crucified me and made me look like 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.120 such a little vixen. By omitting details, you can make 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.280 someone look amazing, and by including every bad detail you 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.240 can make someone look really shitty. And so I think 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.840 we need to keep perspective on this sometimes that the 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.200 people who come across as amazing aren't necessarily that amazing. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.080 And the people who have come across as really really 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.480 bad aren't necessarily that bad. Everyone kind of evens out 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:55.320 somewhere in the middle. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.760 Definitely, I agree with that. So choffing right along to 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.280 the cocktail party a long end, Ellie Choof's off home. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:07.359 The nation's heart cries, everyone breaks down, everyone's in uproar, uprising. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.800 I don't know all the things. Ellie's gone home. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.080 Look, they weren't happy. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.640 She's gonna find herself a bloody great country bumpkin out there, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.360 and she's just gonna be fine. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.160 She's gonna be just fine. She had a great run 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:20.720 on the show, so she's had nothing to worry about it. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.800 She's a beautiful girl, and I think she got a 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.240 great edit. She's a really really lovely, lovely, likable person, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.320 and I think there's a good chance she could be bachelorette. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.160 Brittany is like, no, she will not be, because I will 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.120 be Batchel the Red. I will kill that girl. I 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.600 was not thinking that, but I mean, hey, interesting, I'm 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.920 calling it. Okay, who was your stand at Hometown? 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.080 I thought they were quite uneventful to me. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:42.280 Yeah, they really were, weren't they. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.200 I mean, in terms of what they actually did, Like 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.720 I went and raced Camel's down the beach with Nick. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.000 They went to the part in her drink, and then 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.160 they went to a pool and had to swim, Like 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.040 it was just a bit different. I think on our 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.160 season Sophie went jet skiing, and I think we had 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:56.320 some more exciting things. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.520 Yeah, I feel like they don't have the budgets though. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.760 I mean, like going back to Abby who moved house 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.240 and had a bed date, I feel like they've really 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:05.919 sort of stayed true there and they're like, well, what 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.760 can we do today. We're in Melbourne, let's go sit 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:08.240 in a pub. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.080 It was Abby's was up first. It was quite awkward. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.320 I found the whole thing, the kissing in front of 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.560 those two massus. I nearly died and you could see 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.000 them trying to stifle their laugh. They were trying and 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.280 they were looking at each other like where do we look? 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:23.960 It was actually a bit disrespectful. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.560