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Speaker 1: She's on the Money. She's on the Money.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast

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Speaker 2: for millennials who want financial freedom. Last week we went

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Speaker 2: deep on the twelve Saves of Christmas, but today we

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Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit more about sustainability when

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Speaker 2: it comes to gifting this festive season. My name is

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Speaker 2: Georgia King, and joining me as always is financial advisor

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Speaker 2: Victoria Divine Vhi. We have a couple of little disclaimers

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Speaker 2: we want to rattle off before we get into the

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Speaker 2: main chat today, don't we.

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Speaker 3: That we do? And I think it's really important to

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Speaker 3: ratt all these off because when we're talking about gifting

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Speaker 3: and talking about spending money, that is not a privilege

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Speaker 3: that is extended to every single person in our She's

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Speaker 3: on the Money community. And I know as well as

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Speaker 3: the rest of our community knows that this Christmas for

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Speaker 3: some people is going to be a really tough one.

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Speaker 3: It's not a new thing, which is really sad. But

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to at the start of this episode

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Speaker 3: really acknowledge our privilege because we do know that not

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Speaker 3: everyone can afford Christmas presents this year, but also not

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Speaker 3: everyone can afford fancy sustainable products, but we can definitely

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Speaker 3: all shop a little bit more responsibly and shop less,

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Speaker 3: which is also a huge piece of this whole puzzle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's exactly right. So yeah, thank you for

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Speaker 2: kind of clarifying that up the top. I think that's

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Speaker 2: really important.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's really important because if we're going

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Speaker 3: to do episodes, this one was really really requested and

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Speaker 3: obviously we were really excited about doing it. But also

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Speaker 3: when we do whole episodes on gifting, sometimes you're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: this might not actually resonate with some people, and that's okay.

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Speaker 3: If this episode isn't your episode, that's totally cool. But

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that people want our advice on these topics, George,

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Speaker 3: and they reach out and say, hey, like, how would

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Speaker 3: I do this? Or is this a money when or not?

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Speaker 3: Like these are the conversations we like having with our community,

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Speaker 3: and I think that that's fun regardless of the situation you're.

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Speaker 2: In, one hundred percent, and I think when it comes

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Speaker 2: to sustainability as well, there's definitely a perception that it's

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Speaker 2: the more expensive route to kind of head down, and

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Speaker 2: that is the case with some of these higher quality,

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Speaker 2: more sustainable ethical brands, they are more expensive, but we're

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Speaker 2: not necessarily just talking about that today. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: a series of ways that you can save money while

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Speaker 2: also shopping sustainably. So before we do get into those tips, Fee,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you exactly what the impacts of

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Speaker 2: our Christmas consumption are on the planet right now. It's

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Speaker 2: actually really scary, George, you're ready talk to me to

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Speaker 2: strap yourself in. The amount of waste reproduce increases by

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Speaker 2: thirty percent at Christmas time, which makes sense when you

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Speaker 2: break it down, and if you think about how much

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Speaker 2: wrapping paper and sticky tape and trees and gifts and

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Speaker 2: food and packaging all gets thrown away in your household,

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Speaker 2: especially at Christmas time, you kind of go, oh, A

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Speaker 2: thirty percent increase does make sense. We also produce, George,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand tons of waste, which,

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Speaker 2: if you calculate that out, one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 2: million kilos just from plastic packaging. Wow, that's so many

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Speaker 2: kilos of plastic packaging.

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Speaker 3: We also spend an extra five hundred and fifty four

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Speaker 3: million dollars on food at this time, and a third

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Speaker 3: need to start being way more sensible when it comes

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, isn't it, Because you kind of

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Speaker 2: everyone would think of gifts, but you don't really think

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Speaker 2: about the other things that you're throwing away, like the

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Speaker 2: food waste, the alcohol waste, the packaging waste. Like there's

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Speaker 2: so much to it, which I guess is what we're

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Speaker 2: discussing today. Let's get into our top tips. The first

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Speaker 2: point I have here is really simple, and you mentioned

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Speaker 2: it at the top of the show. Our first tip

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Speaker 2: is just to shop less.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a really easy kind of tip, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, but it's also not the easiest tip to implement,

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Speaker 3: I feel like so many of us have the resolve

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Speaker 3: to shop less, But what does that actually mean? Does

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Speaker 3: it mean Georgia King gets less presence? Because if so,

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Speaker 3: like I'm probably not going to buy you less presence?

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense? So it's harder to buy less

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Speaker 3: than we actually think it is. But it's pretty plain

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Speaker 3: doing for our planet. And gee, as we mentioned in

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Speaker 3: last week's episode, Australian's a tip to spend twenty three

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Speaker 3: point nine billion dollars this year. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That's too much money.

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Speaker 3: That's actually insane. I genuinely think if we shift our

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Speaker 3: six months to a year, then that's a really good

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Speaker 3: place to start. In fact, g you and I were

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Speaker 3: this is going to length strike no with some people

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Speaker 3: in our community, but I've obviously just gotten engaged and

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Speaker 3: low key. I already booked the wedding because if I'm

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Speaker 3: who I am, So if anything, I'm organized. But I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, like I'll obviously give my bridesmaids what

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Speaker 3: every time I've been gifted one or I've seen them,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what do people do with that stuff?

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Speaker 3: Is it reasonable? Is it fair? So I think this

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Speaker 3: our lives, like how do we just buy one quality

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Speaker 2: Well what do you think though, V, Because I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of families do stockings, for example, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and little kids love stockings. Like one of my

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Speaker 2: Mystery, But so how do you do that sustainably? Then?

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Speaker 3: I think opt for less, but again, kids love opening stockings,

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Speaker 3: saying she was doing this for sustainable reasons. I think

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Speaker 3: But everything that was put into our Santa Sacks wasn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love it, good good calls. Okay, So our next

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Speaker 3: I feel like this is such a fun tip because

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Speaker 3: that half the reason we give presents so we can

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Speaker 3: watch other people unwrap them. But as much as wrapping

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Speaker 3: Another idea, George, is to get more creative and wrap

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Speaker 3: very fun. But a hot tip from my friend Harriet,

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Speaker 3: from her. If not, she can have full credit for it. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Right? Like, Yeah, the little silky scars you can tie

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Speaker 3: we get it. We're not everything to everyone. Then there

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're more sustainable options.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be going op shopping, though, I want to

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Speaker 2: I do like that idea, But don't you think it

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Speaker 2: Like it doesn't really make that much sense because we

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Speaker 3: I agree, but I also think that wrapping it up

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Speaker 3: soaps just sitting under the tree and like, George, that's yours.

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Speaker 3: You have to be really mindful and really intentional when

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's a really good suggestion.

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Speaker 3: as well, now we're going on a tangent, is if

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Speaker 3: I'm going into an op shop, I'll often check out

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Speaker 3: like the crockery and see things like little pieces of

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Speaker 3: crockery I really like because they become things like ring

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Speaker 3: dishes and stuff that you can gift to a girlfriend

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Speaker 3: and be like, oh my gosh, I saw this. It's secondhand,

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Speaker 3: but I thought of you. It was really pretty or

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Speaker 3: really beautiful or really practical. You don't have to be like,

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Speaker 3: oh gee, I just popped to my local op shop

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Speaker 3: to see if I could find you something you can

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Speaker 3: be like, Look, I went looking for something. I really

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Speaker 3: wanted to buy your ring dish because I know you

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Speaker 3: know you always take your jewelry off, all your earrings

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Speaker 3: off before bed, and I just feel like this was

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Speaker 3: really you and yet secondhand, but I just knew that

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Speaker 3: this one would suit you. Like, that's really cute, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: ring dishes for the win, really cute little presents that

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Speaker 3: are arguably very cost effective and we're saving the en moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's ITV And as well as op shops, we

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Speaker 2: didn't say that, you can also shop on eBay, gum

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Speaker 2: Tree and Marketplace. They're all really good ways of closing

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Speaker 2: that kind of fast fashioning loop that we talk about.

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Speaker 2: So to recap our tips for today, we had shop secondhand,

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Speaker 2: consider more creative gifts like experiences instead of tangible products.

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Speaker 2: We had shop locally and choose those brands that are

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Speaker 2: doing really good work in this space, ditch wrapping paper

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Speaker 2: that was a big one, and make out.

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Speaker 3: We can buy sky or ge. How many of us

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Speaker 3: are short on tea towels?

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Speaker 2: I actually am short on teatowels? Are you not?

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Speaker 1: I am?

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Speaker 3: If I wrapped your present in a nice little tea

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Speaker 3: towel and then you get to kick double double present

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Speaker 3: brilliant from you cleaned and washed obviously yeah, like we're

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Speaker 3: not talking, Just like, grab it off the oven and

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Speaker 3: just wrap Gee's present up and it smells like food. Like, no,

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Speaker 3: not that tea towel.

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Speaker 2: You never know. It's good to clarify, but you could.

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Speaker 3: Pick festive tea towels and wrap them up and put

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Speaker 3: I'm all about it, to be honest. Every time someone

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Speaker 3: has gifted me something that has alternative wrapping, I'm always like.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love this, yeap, love it. Love it. The

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Speaker 2: final two tips there were making your own gifts and

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Speaker 2: buying less which we love for you before we do

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Speaker 2: leave it for today. How would you recommend someone broach

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Speaker 2: this topic with their family or their partner if they

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Speaker 2: are wanting to integrate sustainable gifting into their lives? How

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Speaker 2: do you do it?

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's two ways of answering this or

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Speaker 3: two ways this cook go right, Like your family could

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Speaker 3: completely embrace it, and mine did, And I know that

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Speaker 3: because my mum's always been like a bargain hunter and

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Speaker 3: always been someone who's like good at finding a good

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Speaker 3: piece of furniture or a good piece of like clothing secondhand,

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Speaker 3: So she would absolutely adore this. But I know it's

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Speaker 3: not for everybody, So I guess you could tell them

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Speaker 3: to listen to the podcast episode, or tell them you

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Speaker 3: listen to a podcast in how would we do that,

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Speaker 3: or even just introducing the fact that you're going to

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Speaker 3: try to do something one time. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: absolutely everybody has to get on board. I think there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of beauty in you guys leading the way

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Speaker 3: and going you know what, I don't mind if the

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Speaker 3: rest of the family isn't going to do this, but

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Speaker 3: I'm going to put the time, energy and effort into this,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to see how I can make this work,

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Speaker 3: because it's not always about doing everything. It's just little steps,

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Speaker 3: and little steps are still steps in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Right Gee. Finally, I just wanted to say as well

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Speaker 2: that obviously today's show was all about sustainable gifting, but

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Speaker 2: food waste is a massive issue this time of year.

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Speaker 2: So if you are entertaining, really just like trying not

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Speaker 2: to go overboard with what you're providing, Like, don't have

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Speaker 2: enough food for twenty when there's only five of you there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just do more planning. Often we end up with

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Speaker 3: a lot of food waste. One because we get really

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Speaker 3: excited because there's all these really exciting Christmas snacks and like,

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Speaker 3: who doesn't want cherries at Christmas? So we're obviously getting those.

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Speaker 3: And then in our family, my mum adores prawns at Christmas,

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Speaker 3: so we always get that, but we need to make

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Speaker 3: sure that we're working out at what time we're eating those.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise they go in the fridge, they go off, and

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Speaker 3: then they end up in the bin and that is

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Speaker 3: not productive, especially at a time when so many people

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Speaker 3: don't have heaps to put on their Christmas tables themselves.

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Speaker 3: So plan a little bit better when it comes to Christmas.

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Speaker 3: So as you said, gee, you're only hosting five, you

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Speaker 3: don't need to cater for twenty. But also maybe have

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Speaker 3: a little bit of think about how you could donate

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Speaker 3: some food this Christmas or give back to people who

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Speaker 3: really need it because I promise you there are lots

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Speaker 3: of food drives going on and I think that we

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Speaker 3: could have a real impact this Christmas. But that is

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Speaker 3: more than enough preaching from me. I think it's probably

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Speaker 3: time Jjo wrap the show. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: I think it's time all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, just before we head off, we'd like to acknowledge

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Speaker 3: and pay respect to Australia's Aboriginal and tourist rate islander peoples.

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Speaker 3: Custodians of the lands, the waterways and the skies all

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Speaker 3: across Australia. We thank you for sharing and for caring

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Speaker 3: for the land on which we are able to learn.

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Speaker 3: We pay our respects to elders past and present, and

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Speaker 3: we share our friendship and our kindness.

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