1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Well you am. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: I performing The Who's Tommy with special guests Sarah MacLeod 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: and Hailey Mary at the Asta Theater Friday, August the eighteenth. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: You can get tickets from livenation dot com, dot you 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: and he's joining us now. Good morning, Tim Rodgers, Jim. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'll let us speak to you. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: I'll just speak to you. You know, this is such 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: an iconic album, such a moment. There is there a 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: particular track that you really look forward to performing during 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: the show the most. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Well, apart from the obvious, it's a bit of a challenge. 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: As much as it is an iconic album, there's a 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: lot that audiences, even who were probably quite familiar to 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the band wouldn't recognize. And I was just talking with 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: friends yesterday about it that much in the way of opera, 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: there are periods where you're thinking your attention disappears for 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: a while, wondering if the narrative really that strong here, 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: and then there'll be an aria, there'll be a blistering 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: tune and then so it's rather than doing a great 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: his Hits of the Oravloo, we thought we'd take on 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: a ridiculous concept and try and present this roper which 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, fifty years after putting it out, Pete Townsend 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: still has. You can see his frustration in trying to 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: explain it to people, and we want to sue his 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: beautiful head by explaining it with power and with pith. 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he does get get frustrated. 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: We would like someone else to just take it up, 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: you know, if you wouldn't mind just explaining it to them. 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: One of the reasons we said yes to it because 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the original idea came up. It wasn't at my behest, 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: but I was asked by the Sydney Theater Company. Andrew 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: and Kate, who were directing a Sydney theater company at 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: the time, asked to work on a musical and so 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: I had this Jean Cocteau novella called les Entrance and 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: wrote this presentation forout Sydney gave him a presentation. They said, well, yes, 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: we're both fans of Jehan Cocktau Tim, but what do 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: you think about who's Tommy and oh Crike? You know, 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: here we go. But they said, look, what we want 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: to get back to is taking away quite a bit 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: of the circus element of it and forget about the 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: film and get back to the way that the band 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: tried to present it in sixty nine seventy, So do 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: it as a basic rock band, but to present this 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: this attempt at opera, and so we're trying to bring 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: it back to that if we can. 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: As the song says, Tommy is a deaf, mute and 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: blind boy who becomes a pinball champion. 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: And religious leader. 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: Back in the day we only got a pin boys. 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: I love pinball so much fun, love a good tilt 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: tilt tim. 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Well, I remember it. It was at a caravan park 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: in It might have been Bustleton. My brother and I 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't realize that there were flippers, and I really used 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: to get our harder and twenty cents and just watch 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: the ball. And then I think it was when I 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: was resoundingly beaten up by some local tuff and they 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: explained the feeling of the concept of the s by 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: bashing my nose against. 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: Them on what a way to learn no flippers? It 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: goes another gout of ball. Yeah, but that's so what 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: was the thrill? What wants the ball go down the 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: side and you go, oh, at least we've got to 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: see some lights. 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: Have we gone in a different direction? 66 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: We were we were living in that across. I think 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: at the time we were easily entertained. So any any 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of flashing lights when there wasn't any any cricket 69 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: on or reached from man weren't playing footy, Yeah, any 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of flashing light. 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like Vegas for you at team have 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: you had to perfect your town's end windmill guitar style 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: and it can be dangerous for your fingers, can it? 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Well? He asked me. We toured with for Who a 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: bit and we compared notes, and he's a lovely fellow, Pete, 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: and that was another reason why we wanted to sign 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: on because it was such a big, big sands of 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: the man and Robs and the oxen and keithing. But 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: he's the original reason for doing it. He said he 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: was influenced by Keith Richards and doing it. But he 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: talked about how the physicality of doing it that way, 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: he not only produces a guitar sound, but it's a 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: way of distracting attention one away from his face. And 84 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: then when you or my first started, I started doing 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: that because it would be a way of protecting you 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: getting hit by cans and bottles, because we get thrown 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: stuff at a lot, and Pete joked about it later 88 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: on about has been deflecting projectiles. But it does have 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: a practical element and it really does. And I don't 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: want to get too much into instrumentation byfonery on aism 91 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: with you, but it is a way of producing a 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: particular sound that is important, I think to that sound 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: that Pete produced. 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Well, the show not only covers the Tommy soundtrack, but 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: there's also going to be a set of Who classics, 96 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: So I think, well, possibly possibly time dependent, because it's 97 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: something that is. 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: Depending on We want to keep it a bit loose. Okay, 99 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: this is and so keeping it pretty loose, but we 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: do want to present that double record in its entirety, 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: which is something actually never did. And then let the 102 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: cat out of the bag. And look, as you mentioned, 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: having Hailey and Sarah who are not only incredibly dextrous 104 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: and powerful thingers, but their friends. We want to break 105 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: up the snag party. We want to get people in 106 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: that we knew had because our work ethic is a 107 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: little lax, and Sarah and Hailey are both very damn 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: about you know, you put in the work and then 109 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: you have the fun. And we thought that we kind 110 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: of needed that, so yesterday, well, yeah, what could possibly 111 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: go wrong? 112 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: It's been a very successful venture. Any plans to take 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: on any other iconic soundtracks out of music, perhaps Sally mill. 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Lookiousness. We're using it as an opportunity to write our 115 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: next record. And I think any bands who do this 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: kind of thing at the same time they're working on 117 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: their own music. It's just an interesting kind of project. 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: But we'll always be writers at heart, So we'll take 119 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: this opportunity to write down new record while we're doing it. 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: And I realize where you're going, and I want to 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: go with the music. 122 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: Don't worry, it's okay. 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: Before I this next lawn, I've got to put that 124 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: in there for us starving. 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: As long as you don't come out Roger Daltrey any 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: seventy's still coming out with the no shirt, the bare 127 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: chested thing, you'll be all good. 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Because well, I'll playing the hard ones and we're just 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: on the tour of Europe, all bare chested each night, 130 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: and I guess I'm only fifty three. Good. Yeah, you're ready. 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: King Rags from Abound fifty seventy in fifty eight and 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: they're like Greyhounds. Yeah, you go it can be done 133 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: well and he's still the King. 134 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, really looking forward to this, Tim. There 135 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: is no other band that I could imagine having the 136 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: right sort of theatricolness about them to do it. I think, Yeah, 137 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be fantastic. It's Friday, the eighteenth of August. 138 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: I love that it's a Friday, not a school like 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: for me. Tickets from Live Nation dot com dot au. 140 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: Tim Rodgers, thank you so much for joining us. 141 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. I really appreciate it. Okay now, 142 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: so yeah,