1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more Gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:17,684 Speaker 2: Playlists, and listen live on the free iHeart app. 4 00:00:19,484 --> 00:00:21,364 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah it's John. 5 00:00:26,124 --> 00:00:26,363 Speaker 1: Yeah. 6 00:00:26,524 --> 00:00:33,604 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's Johniana Man Yeah yeah yeah on the 7 00:00:33,604 --> 00:00:36,804 Speaker 3: cutting room floor. Have you ever wanted to scale Mount Everest? 8 00:00:37,724 --> 00:00:41,364 Speaker 1: No, I've done a story for beyond two thousand, a 9 00:00:41,364 --> 00:00:43,684 Speaker 1: series of stories in the Himalias, I like to say, 10 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:47,443 Speaker 1: in the Himalayas. But I flew in via helicopter. I 11 00:00:47,484 --> 00:00:50,083 Speaker 1: didn't do any trekking. Even walking up to my room 12 00:00:50,564 --> 00:00:53,244 Speaker 1: at the end of the evening, helicopter was out of breath. 13 00:00:54,444 --> 00:00:57,804 Speaker 1: I have no interest. So in climbing Everest. 14 00:00:57,564 --> 00:00:59,724 Speaker 2: With the helicopters, where did you go? You didn't go 15 00:00:59,804 --> 00:01:00,804 Speaker 2: to the top of Mount Everest? 16 00:01:00,804 --> 00:01:03,124 Speaker 1: No, no, No, we didn't go to that. No, I'm saying. 17 00:01:03,124 --> 00:01:05,164 Speaker 1: We flew into the Himalayas and we did some stories 18 00:01:05,204 --> 00:01:08,044 Speaker 1: with some people and some echo stuff we were doing there. 19 00:01:08,124 --> 00:01:09,964 Speaker 1: But no, I didn't go to the top of Everest. 20 00:01:10,124 --> 00:01:10,324 Speaker 2: Yeah. 21 00:01:11,364 --> 00:01:14,484 Speaker 3: It's a story that's come out right now people, and 22 00:01:14,844 --> 00:01:18,923 Speaker 3: it's sort of eco tourism, people climbing Mount Everest, and 23 00:01:18,964 --> 00:01:21,804 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five has been the biggest ever year for 24 00:01:21,924 --> 00:01:23,444 Speaker 3: people scaling Mount Everest. 25 00:01:23,564 --> 00:01:26,284 Speaker 2: And the big thing is the Nepalese. They make a 26 00:01:26,284 --> 00:01:28,283 Speaker 2: lot of money out of this. But other people are 27 00:01:28,284 --> 00:01:29,643 Speaker 2: saying it's time to respect the mountain. 28 00:01:29,884 --> 00:01:32,124 Speaker 3: And when you look at those pictures of queues of 29 00:01:32,164 --> 00:01:36,444 Speaker 3: three hundred people waiting to summit, but I kind of 30 00:01:36,484 --> 00:01:38,804 Speaker 3: have empathy for those people, whoever they might be. 31 00:01:38,844 --> 00:01:40,164 Speaker 2: They've all tried to get up there. 32 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:42,604 Speaker 3: And you'll like imagine two hundred ninety eight in the 33 00:01:42,684 --> 00:01:44,404 Speaker 3: queue of three hundred and all of a sudden the 34 00:01:44,444 --> 00:01:47,004 Speaker 3: weather closes came so close to getting to Everest. 35 00:01:47,203 --> 00:01:50,404 Speaker 1: Well, it's a shirpa who has posted these pictures saying, 36 00:01:51,004 --> 00:01:53,804 Speaker 1: come on, this only serves short term pride. You're putting 37 00:01:53,804 --> 00:01:56,444 Speaker 1: immense pressure on our sacred mountain. This is a shirpa 38 00:01:56,564 --> 00:01:59,724 Speaker 1: saying it's time to reflect. We must pause and reconsider 39 00:01:59,724 --> 00:02:01,964 Speaker 1: how we approach Everest, not just for ourselves, but for 40 00:02:02,004 --> 00:02:04,364 Speaker 1: the mountain's future. But you're right when you look at 41 00:02:04,364 --> 00:02:07,284 Speaker 1: that when someone has a photo taken at the top 42 00:02:07,324 --> 00:02:10,483 Speaker 1: of the mountain, it's them and those incredible mountain peaks 43 00:02:10,483 --> 00:02:12,764 Speaker 1: behind them. It looks like you're the only person in 44 00:02:12,804 --> 00:02:16,163 Speaker 1: the world. But from this angle, you see two hundred 45 00:02:16,163 --> 00:02:19,764 Speaker 1: and fifty people snaking up that mountain in the freezing cold, 46 00:02:20,124 --> 00:02:22,644 Speaker 1: waiting their turn. And as you say, they're all looking 47 00:02:22,684 --> 00:02:24,563 Speaker 1: at the weather closing in, or looking at the day 48 00:02:24,644 --> 00:02:26,083 Speaker 1: closing in, the darkness coming. 49 00:02:26,244 --> 00:02:26,963 Speaker 2: They're thinking, my. 50 00:02:27,084 --> 00:02:29,404 Speaker 1: God, I've come all this way and I may not 51 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:31,244 Speaker 1: get my photo, I. 52 00:02:31,244 --> 00:02:32,844 Speaker 2: May not get my phote out. But what do people 53 00:02:32,884 --> 00:02:34,683 Speaker 2: expect a gift shop up the top there. 54 00:02:34,724 --> 00:02:37,324 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like a rite of passage. And 55 00:02:37,363 --> 00:02:39,284 Speaker 1: I think I'm right in saying that more men do 56 00:02:39,363 --> 00:02:43,164 Speaker 1: this than women. It's like Kakoda, this is the midlife 57 00:02:43,324 --> 00:02:44,084 Speaker 1: test yourself. 58 00:02:44,564 --> 00:02:46,924 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what about that guy that his wife wanted 59 00:02:46,964 --> 00:02:48,444 Speaker 3: to do it? They both went up there, they got 60 00:02:48,444 --> 00:02:52,164 Speaker 3: to near the summit, she died and he had to. 61 00:02:52,163 --> 00:02:55,044 Speaker 2: Leave her up there. Cripes. He didn't even want to 62 00:02:55,043 --> 00:02:55,724 Speaker 2: go on this thing. 63 00:02:56,124 --> 00:03:00,204 Speaker 3: What about Meg in the prod pod that's the producer's pod, Meg, 64 00:03:00,404 --> 00:03:04,884 Speaker 3: who had no interest in scaling Everest and her dad 65 00:03:04,923 --> 00:03:06,484 Speaker 3: wanted to go to base camp as a bit of 66 00:03:06,524 --> 00:03:07,284 Speaker 3: a bucket list thing. 67 00:03:07,644 --> 00:03:09,444 Speaker 2: So he's the one that's doing all the training. 68 00:03:09,644 --> 00:03:10,564 Speaker 1: Get trained with him. 69 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:13,883 Speaker 3: Meg vapes on the quarter hour. Yeah, and as it 70 00:03:13,923 --> 00:03:17,644 Speaker 3: turns out, Dad ends up getting altitude sickness has to 71 00:03:17,764 --> 00:03:20,964 Speaker 3: go to a police hospital. Meg ends up at base 72 00:03:21,004 --> 00:03:23,923 Speaker 3: camp by yourself doing selfie fingers. 73 00:03:25,803 --> 00:03:26,924 Speaker 2: That's a cruel mystery. 74 00:03:27,043 --> 00:03:30,684 Speaker 1: You have a feeling that you need to test yourself. 75 00:03:30,803 --> 00:03:33,564 Speaker 3: No, now, I test myself every day by riding a 76 00:03:33,603 --> 00:03:36,764 Speaker 3: motorcycle into work. That's the length of testing that I need. 77 00:03:37,124 --> 00:03:39,164 Speaker 3: And I'm not a fan of the Third World. To 78 00:03:39,164 --> 00:03:41,683 Speaker 3: be frank, I don't need to travel to the Third World. 79 00:03:42,044 --> 00:03:43,924 Speaker 3: I can see pictures of it. You want to get 80 00:03:44,004 --> 00:03:45,884 Speaker 3: enlightened with a beer, yeah, I want to go to 81 00:03:45,924 --> 00:03:48,804 Speaker 3: places like Greece is as about Third World as I 82 00:03:48,884 --> 00:03:49,164 Speaker 3: will go. 83 00:03:49,324 --> 00:03:50,844 Speaker 1: You want a flushing toilet, yeah. 84 00:03:50,644 --> 00:03:51,083 Speaker 2: Well Greece. 85 00:03:51,444 --> 00:03:53,324 Speaker 3: In Greece, if you don't know this, when you do 86 00:03:53,363 --> 00:03:55,644 Speaker 3: a pooh, you've got to put your toilet paper in 87 00:03:55,724 --> 00:03:58,364 Speaker 3: a bin next to the toilet because they're plumbing system. 88 00:03:58,444 --> 00:04:00,563 Speaker 3: They didn't you know, they might have come up with philosophy, 89 00:04:00,724 --> 00:04:02,844 Speaker 3: but they didn't come up with plumbing like the Romans did. 90 00:04:03,363 --> 00:04:04,844 Speaker 3: Don't point that out to them. They get a bit 91 00:04:04,884 --> 00:04:05,764 Speaker 3: upset about it. 92 00:04:05,844 --> 00:04:09,524 Speaker 2: But nonetheless, philosophy or do you want plumbing? I have both. 93 00:04:09,724 --> 00:04:12,684 Speaker 2: I want to flush my toilet paper, I want. 94 00:04:12,484 --> 00:04:14,804 Speaker 1: To rip out the works of Plato and flush them 95 00:04:14,803 --> 00:04:15,564 Speaker 1: down the toilet. 96 00:04:16,164 --> 00:04:17,964 Speaker 2: So that's that's the extent of my travels. 97 00:04:18,004 --> 00:04:19,444 Speaker 3: I know that you want to go and eat some 98 00:04:19,564 --> 00:04:23,844 Speaker 3: seeds sitting cross legged by some Buddhist talks to you. 99 00:04:24,204 --> 00:04:24,884 Speaker 2: I'm not interested. 100 00:04:25,124 --> 00:04:27,164 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in that. You know, my fantasy is 101 00:04:27,204 --> 00:04:31,164 Speaker 1: about living in a Tuscan, in a Tuscan village and 102 00:04:31,324 --> 00:04:34,924 Speaker 1: taking cooking classes and slicing tomatoes and serving food on 103 00:04:35,084 --> 00:04:37,004 Speaker 1: enormous platters. That's what I'd like. 104 00:04:37,484 --> 00:04:39,124 Speaker 2: You know, when you say you've sliced. 105 00:04:39,244 --> 00:04:43,684 Speaker 1: Italians, I said that to shock here what you did. 106 00:04:44,044 --> 00:04:50,564 Speaker 2: I was shocked. I'm not wearing the dormy a grin anymore. Okay, kids, 107 00:04:50,684 --> 00:04:51,644 Speaker 2: that's it for today. 108 00:04:51,844 --> 00:04:53,164 Speaker 1: Come back tomorrow for more. 109 00:04:53,364 --> 00:04:55,284 Speaker 2: Johnsy and Amanda's Cutting Room for