Speaker 1: But I think they did me a favorite sending your
Speaker 1: home as well, because mentally I wasn't coping really no,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he said that you felt isolated by the
Speaker 2: group in what way?
Speaker 3: What were they doing? Is it just me podcast by
Speaker 3: a couple of minches?
Speaker 4: Don't suck it up? Hey, everybody, welcome back to Drag Race.
Speaker 3: Do we're into week four now?
Speaker 2: I just got to say this episode, Anna Conda finally
Speaker 2: got the fucking recognition that long last.
Speaker 4: I was worried too, because sometimes when they set it
Speaker 4: up at the start like I need a win, they
Speaker 4: don't get the win. But she did and well deserved.
Speaker 4: Although close second was Uri. I think Ury guy could
Speaker 4: have won snatch game.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, he's absolutely stolen my heart. What
Speaker 3: a sweetheart.
Speaker 4: I love his dry wit and just like so unexpected.
Speaker 4: I did not expect any of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good guy totally.
Speaker 2: I also didn't expect this week's elimonee to be the
Speaker 2: person that went home.
Speaker 4: In all honesty, I mean no, I do think it
Speaker 4: was her time though I think she ran her course
Speaker 4: that ran out of petrol so to speak.
Speaker 3: For good Ba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, spoiler alert, it's a mini keeper and The reason
Speaker 2: I thought that'd keep around is that, you know, for
Speaker 2: the drama, because there were some weeks where she didn't
Speaker 2: even win or lose challenges, and she was still the
Speaker 2: queen that was most talked about.
Speaker 4: I think the thing is, though, like she had pissed
Speaker 4: everyone off, So I.
Speaker 3: Think not everyone.
Speaker 2: I think the edit would have you think that, But
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. I know what you mean
Speaker 2: because she's not afraid of confrontation. And every week it
Speaker 2: was a different person. There was Aubrey Haveve, and then
Speaker 2: there was Pamara fifth and then this week it was
Speaker 2: a little bit of tension with Beverly Kills, but not
Speaker 2: too much, to be honest.
Speaker 4: Well, the common denominator in that was Mini not saying
Speaker 4: it's her fault, but she was definitely in a lot
Speaker 4: of the drama. I quickly to talk about the episode
Speaker 4: Snatch Game is I think everyone's favorite episode better than
Speaker 4: the first season, because the first seasons was trash of
Speaker 4: the down under of series so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is what I've gathered is that everyone
Speaker 2: was like, oh, good, it's Snatch Game week.
Speaker 3: This will be good.
Speaker 2: And then the reaction from everyone I've spoken to it
Speaker 2: has been, oh that didn't hit the click, did it?
Speaker 4: Well? This time around was good. I actually was disappointed
Speaker 4: in Spanky. I wanted more from Barry Barry Humphries. I
Speaker 4: would have loved better Dame Edna. There wasn't that much.
Speaker 2: But I thought that RuPaul didn't like other people impersonating
Speaker 2: other drag.
Speaker 3: Queens what I thought.
Speaker 4: But you know what, did you notice they didn't call
Speaker 4: her Dame Edna? It was Barry Humphries. So maybe I did.
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's clearly not badther, just like
Speaker 3: his normal self.
Speaker 4: Well I who else didn't they like Nini leaks were
Speaker 4: shocking from Queen Kong the Housewives.
Speaker 3: Oh right now, yeah, that reference went right over my head.
Speaker 3: Didn't much.
Speaker 4: But also, like, guys, if you're gonna do a queen
Speaker 4: or do an impression of someone from another series or
Speaker 4: another show, we have to have seen it. You know.
Speaker 4: That's why the lies is a good because even me,
Speaker 4: who's not a Eliza fan, knows what Eliza impression is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And I just think that, oh, poor Minnie, she did
Speaker 2: Ellen Degenerators and it just kind of fell on deaf year.
Speaker 2: It's like no one was really giving her the laughs
Speaker 2: or anything. It was this crickets And I would just
Speaker 2: absolutely die if Michelle Visage that said to me, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that wasn't funny.
Speaker 3: It wasn't funny. Oh it didn't make me laugh.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh my god, I can never recover
Speaker 2: from Michelle Vatage saying that to me.
Speaker 4: It would be so bad. I mean, I know, because
Speaker 4: you haven't seen all the US franchises, but they are
Speaker 4: the ones that always do well in drag Race. Are
Speaker 4: the queens that add like an extra hat on top
Speaker 4: of it, like they'll do Ellen, but they'll do Ellen.
Speaker 4: At a funeral, Ellen reveals that she's not actually gay,
Speaker 4: like they always give them a fake storyline, right, Okay,
Speaker 4: so how funny would it have been if it was Ellen?
Speaker 4: But you know she actually has been living a lie
Speaker 4: that she hasn't been gay her whole life and she's
Speaker 4: actually straight hli right, you know, they add an extra
Speaker 4: bit to it, which I think is why Hannah kind
Speaker 4: of did so well, because it was Liza with just
Speaker 4: a speech impediment, you know, in a weird way, or
Speaker 4: while I.
Speaker 2: Sound a bit weird laughing at that, I was like,
Speaker 2: isn't Liza like Batlin a bit? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Now, she is, but Liza has always been zany and
Speaker 4: nuts and they're scatting and.
Speaker 3: At the puzzle.
Speaker 4: So I thought it was really good, and I think
Speaker 4: you're right. Hannah deserved the wind and her runaway was
Speaker 4: my favorite. I loved it on the clown circis so gay?
Speaker 3: Did you see the editing fail that went viral?
Speaker 2: So when Hannah was on the main stage getting feedback
Speaker 2: from the judges, they cut away to a reaction from
Speaker 2: one of the other queens in the background, and you
Speaker 2: can just see Hannah's standing behind them. So she's gone
Speaker 2: from on the main stage to standing up the back
Speaker 2: in a matter of seconds.
Speaker 4: Didn't see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people really like to pick on Drag Race down
Speaker 2: Under for just little fails like that.
Speaker 4: I just I don't know what was going on with
Speaker 4: the mic quality this week, but there was one confessional
Speaker 4: form Mini that sounded like it was recorded on Apple
Speaker 4: Voice notes so bad.
Speaker 2: It could have been where they're like, oh fuck, the
Speaker 2: MIC's gone flat, get me iPhone.
Speaker 4: Truly, it was bizarre. Yeah, it wouldn't anyway. Listen, we
Speaker 4: should cut to the chase because we have her here,
Speaker 4: the eliminated queen Mini Cooper. She's coming to visit us
Speaker 4: in studio and she isn't if you like, for those
Speaker 4: who are outside of Sydney, you might not know. Mini
Speaker 4: Cooper is a drag institution.
Speaker 2: In a st to me because I'm a Sydney gay,
Speaker 2: She's the Mini Cooper, you know what I mean. She's
Speaker 2: absolute drag royalty in Sydney, top.
Speaker 4: Three drag queens. She's been doing it for twenty years.
Speaker 4: If you've been if you had a drunk night on
Speaker 4: Stonewall or on Oxford Stree, you will have seen Mini
Speaker 4: Cooper either on the stage or in the gutter.
Speaker 2: She's also the second oldest drag queen to ever compete
Speaker 2: in drag Race. Ever, I didn't know that they're not
Speaker 2: the oldest. They really focused on that, the ages and things.
Speaker 4: And she was also what Australia's got talent. I think
Speaker 4: she did quite well.
Speaker 2: Yeah back in the day, so this is not her
Speaker 2: first taste of reality TV.
Speaker 4: She's here with this now. Mini Cooper, the wonderful but glamorous,
Speaker 4: the very tall Mini Cooper is here.
Speaker 1: How Mini, And you know what they say about tall girls,
Speaker 1: big personality.
Speaker 2: In that bang on, I didn't realize how tall you
Speaker 2: were and I was like oh she had to duck
Speaker 2: through the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm six with five in heels and without Hey,
Speaker 1: no swearing. Thank you.
Speaker 3: If you want to drop an F.
Speaker 1: Bomb, please I drop more than F bombs keeping coming.
Speaker 4: As we learned. Can I just say, like, for all
Speaker 4: the intents and purposes and all everything that's floating around online,
Speaker 4: what you brought to drag Race was exactly what I
Speaker 4: want out of drag Race.
Speaker 1: And what's that?
Speaker 4: No good television? You know what I mean? Like really
Speaker 4: good TV? Yeah? It was entertaining. Are you pray of
Speaker 4: what you had on drag Race?
Speaker 1: I'm proud of some things, not proud of others. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think it sees me as a
Speaker 1: fully round human person, none of us. I'm flawed, just
Speaker 1: like everyone, and just more of my flaws were shown
Speaker 1: the most Who do you reckon?
Speaker 2: The heat's going to be on now that you're gone,
Speaker 2: because surely they're going to have to hyper fixate on
Speaker 2: someone else.
Speaker 1: Well, because that's what's what I find really interesting about
Speaker 1: that environment, because I think I was the person because
Speaker 1: it was very much the young kids and me, and
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize until the show air that I
Speaker 1: had cong and spanking on my side until I saw
Speaker 1: the confessionals, because you don't get to talk because once
Speaker 1: you're in that workroom, you're working, and then you're on
Speaker 1: the bus and you're not allowed to talk, and it's
Speaker 1: a very small amount of talking. So I had no
Speaker 1: idea I had even had that kind of support. So
Speaker 1: my reaction is to this group of people. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody else would react the same or if
Speaker 1: it was just me, but it was almost like a
Speaker 1: retaliation of what I was getting. And to watch it's
Speaker 1: very hard for me to watch because I'm like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I can see why they didn't like me, because I
Speaker 1: don't like me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm a little bit like you
Speaker 2: in a way that if there's any sort of conflict,
Speaker 2: I just like to nip it in the butt, nutted out,
Speaker 2: just so that there's no risk of anyone festering and like,
Speaker 2: you know, getting bottled up.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you say that there was in
Speaker 1: the very first episode where I was talking about Aureay's costume.
Speaker 1: We're walking to the runway and you don't see any
Speaker 1: of this. They were actually talking behind my back, and
Speaker 1: I go, if you've got a problem, talk to me
Speaker 1: about it, and I'm having to discuss it. Then you
Speaker 1: see me come into the workroom and I've got this
Speaker 1: real confrontational conversation.
Speaker 4: See, we don't have the context.
Speaker 1: You don't have the context, So I like this crazy
Speaker 1: old white man.
Speaker 4: It's always ready to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's tricky because I do sometimes think Mitchell
Speaker 3: picky battles, picky battles.
Speaker 2: Was there anything that you were like, Oh, maybe I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that, anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. The thing in the last episode with Beverly.
Speaker 1: I think also too, I was at that point. I
Speaker 1: really was at the end of my I wasn't in
Speaker 1: a great mental space at that point because I really
Speaker 1: wasn't talking to anyone. I was really on my own.
Speaker 1: And what happened prior to that is that they were saying, well, Minni,
Speaker 1: you're witching behind people, and they were all at me.
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, if I'm not allowed a
Speaker 1: bitch about behind someone's back, why are you allowed to
Speaker 1: do it? And that was where that comes from. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if that reads on television. It just
Speaker 1: looks like I'm throwing Beverly under the bus, which I did.
Speaker 2: I actually didn't think that there was too much tension
Speaker 2: between you and Beverly.
Speaker 3: She seems quite fond of you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I actually love Beverly. You know what's interesting that
Speaker 1: you didn't see on the show either, is that I
Speaker 1: actually confronted them all. I go, Okay, if someone's got
Speaker 1: a problem, can just the one person speak to me?
Speaker 1: Because whenever someone had a problem, it wasn't just I've
Speaker 1: got a problem, Mini, let's talk. It was everyone having
Speaker 1: someone with them. Is that because I'm an older person
Speaker 1: and people can't stick up for themselves? So am I
Speaker 1: really that scary? I think I'm pretty scary.
Speaker 3: Do you think some people do find it scary? Mitchell?
Speaker 2: Do you find it when I'm a little bit assertive?
Speaker 2: He gets he does find that scary. Think people don't
Speaker 2: know how to cope sometimes.
Speaker 1: And I suppose that's the thing that I've had to
Speaker 1: being a Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know
Speaker 1: what I am. To be honest, I think I've lost
Speaker 1: my train of thought.
Speaker 4: You were yourself and yeah, like I saidt the end
Speaker 4: of the day, it was entertaining. Yeah, I'm watching a
Speaker 4: drag show. You know, it's not a time at Village
Speaker 4: like you don't have to be civil.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing with Beverly because I actually asked
Speaker 1: the group, I go who, and Beverly goes, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not one of the people that was joining the group,
Speaker 1: and it was like in aha moment for me, I
Speaker 1: was like oh, and and other people owned up, which
Speaker 1: I won't say who they were because we've made up since,
Speaker 1: and it was really like, oh you. And then Beverly
Speaker 1: and I had this really nice moment which didn't err
Speaker 1: on TV, and I apologized to her. I said, I
Speaker 1: misunderstood you, and we came to a place of understanding.
Speaker 1: Both of us were going through something me being the
Speaker 1: oldest and her being the youngest. We were both going
Speaker 1: through a similar sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can see her turm oil of not
Speaker 4: performing to the level that she expected to on the
Speaker 4: show and.
Speaker 3: Exactly around trying.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I would have liked to have seen
Speaker 4: that shared, you know, trauma really be unpacked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is a moment that you didn't see.
Speaker 1: And Beverly and I actually discussed that after the episode.
Speaker 1: I was how did she get feels? She goes, I
Speaker 1: was disappointed at what they didn't show that moment between
Speaker 1: you and I actually showing each other respect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I've been actually sticking out for Beverly online because
Speaker 1: she's been told a little bit about giving her opinions.
Speaker 1: I was like, she was asked to her opinions, and
Speaker 1: she gave them. Leave the poor kid alone. She just
Speaker 1: gave her opinions. I step away out together. She thought
Speaker 1: it was terrible. Yeah, good honor Beverly. I'm team Beverly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that a lot of people misread her.
Speaker 2: But she seems quite lovely deep down. But then, like
Speaker 2: any other queen on the show, just has the capacity
Speaker 2: to be shady.
Speaker 3: And that's the whole point.
Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is, do you know what I
Speaker 1: like about Beverly? She speaks to mind and I do
Speaker 1: as well, and that's probably what we actually liked each other.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Beverly, is you twenty thirty?
Speaker 1: If Beverly's like at twenty one, I never said, boob,
Speaker 1: what's like when she's fifty?
Speaker 3: That's very true.
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm all in all that drama side. Did you
Speaker 4: enjoy the experience? What I noticed with you, Minnie was
Speaker 4: that you and Rue there was a mutual respect from
Speaker 4: Rue that that Rue showed to you that I don't
Speaker 4: think you showed to other queens.
Speaker 1: And I agree. That was my favorite time on the show.
Speaker 1: Like and there was another moment. There were three times
Speaker 1: I had chats with Rue and there was another walk through.
Speaker 1: It was after I had my altercation with Aubrey and
Speaker 1: we made up, and then Ruy goes, oh Minnie, hence
Speaker 1: asking me. They always asking me me in the conflict,
Speaker 1: always asking that question. I said, Aubrey and I have
Speaker 1: made up. I said. When I started Drag, I was
Speaker 1: told I was unwatchable. I don't know what Allboo's worried about.
Speaker 1: And the Rue pisses himself. He says, meaning you should
Speaker 1: release an album called Unwatchable. I said, yeah, can't wait
Speaker 1: not to buy it. So it's really funny. And we
Speaker 1: just seeing the humor in the trauma. I suppose yeah,
Speaker 1: and we share that.
Speaker 2: I think there was a moment on premiere night because
Speaker 2: it was I was there too, and it was the
Speaker 2: Drag queen's first time seeing the episode.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: And then the Q and A on stage afterwards.
Speaker 2: You were a bit emotional, which I do love you
Speaker 2: wear your heart on your sleeve, and there was something
Speaker 2: you said along the lines of some of these queens
Speaker 2: did something I would never do to anyone.
Speaker 3: What was that in reference that I was keeping an
Speaker 3: eye out the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You know, And you know what they didn't show it
Speaker 1: in the edit actually is yeah, and what was it?
Speaker 1: It was when I wore the HIV dress. I went
Speaker 1: to talk about it in the untucked and oh, you
Speaker 1: spoke about that on the runway, and I actually it
Speaker 1: was more for me to say, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: share it with the group about these people of our
Speaker 1: past and our history, and I thought that was disgusting. Yeah, perfect,
Speaker 1: that's what upset me. It wasn't me and anything that
Speaker 1: that they didn't let me speak about these people. The
Speaker 1: reason why they were allowed to be on drag Race
Speaker 1: is because of those people that passed, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: being able to share that, and that to me was heartbreak.
Speaker 3: And so were they just making jokes all, No, they.
Speaker 1: Were making jokes. It was because I think it was
Speaker 1: that thing of because I was like by ru and
Speaker 1: I do talk a lot, but let's face we all
Speaker 1: talk a lot on that shod and it was just
Speaker 1: I don't think they did it intentionally to be malicious,
Speaker 1: but it was really hurtful. Yeah, and I think it
Speaker 1: wasn't the time to dismiss me.
Speaker 3: No, there's a time and a place for that, and
Speaker 3: there wasn't that.
Speaker 1: That runway was gorgeous and shame I'd lost so much waste.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your tits, well, I like yours.
Speaker 1: That the nip slip totally. But you know what's interesting,
Speaker 1: it's funny your legs into a little of their tits
Speaker 1: were always out as well. It's almost sort of weird
Speaker 1: that that sort of happened with the dress.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Abby who made the dress for me, was really
Speaker 1: good friends with them, and he said, well, they always
Speaker 1: had their tits out as well, So it's almost like
Speaker 1: there was a sign. It's in some strange kind of
Speaker 1: If you.
Speaker 4: Don't follow me on Instagram, go have a look, because
Speaker 4: you put up photos of your sisters and that was
Speaker 4: that was beautiful to see, especially after watching the runway
Speaker 4: for your story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they really they joke about dying on the
Speaker 1: same day and they did. It was just really I
Speaker 1: think it's such a powerful story to tell.
Speaker 2: I think Week three with definitely the best one in
Speaker 2: terms of the runway.
Speaker 4: Because was the runway that was the that was read
Speaker 4: to FID film because every other week, fuck, they have
Speaker 4: made it hard like there was rubbish insects and now.
Speaker 3: Like clay is, how do they make it got easy
Speaker 3: to work with?
Speaker 1: Actually, I think the insect Runway is one of the
Speaker 1: best they've ever had as far as the astraight what.
Speaker 4: It is dressed like a no, you're right for the
Speaker 4: I agree, I think it was.
Speaker 1: Do you think Uri?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Incredible?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Uri is extraordinary?
Speaker 3: Please tell me Yuri is it adorable in real life?
Speaker 4: Because I've just sworn.
Speaker 1: In love do you know what? I've fallen in love
Speaker 1: with URI's Yuri is one of my favorite coming.
Speaker 4: Out of her shell as well. Yeah, I'm loving watching
Speaker 4: Howard great?
Speaker 1: Was she a status Game?
Speaker 4: So great?
Speaker 1: Absolutely brilliant and so funny. I know, I actually stood
Speaker 1: up for Spanky and Yuri because they were so funny,
Speaker 1: Like I was, they were really hilarious.
Speaker 2: I also love that Yuri just kind of she's really
Speaker 2: shy and like doesn't quite believe in himself, but then
Speaker 2: she just kills it.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? She's silent but deadly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred for those competitors always go very far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I'm a Yuris fan, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love her.
Speaker 2: You've said that you've mentored a lot of young drag
Speaker 2: queens over the years, one of them being dear friend
Speaker 2: of our show. Alright, hey, I got to ask, what
Speaker 2: was the right hay like at the young drag queen.
Speaker 1: She's fantastic, very super talented.
Speaker 2: I can't even remember what I Hayes drag name was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't all right, okay, well, all right, hey what
Speaker 2: that's what his stage name is now? I can't remember
Speaker 2: what his drag name was for you.
Speaker 4: He loves branding, is shamelessly full of himself, so it's
Speaker 4: probably just the right hat. He'd be the only drag
Speaker 4: queen to not have a drag name.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's really funny? You know how people
Speaker 1: laugh at RuPaul having all these people on her showing
Speaker 1: that she forgets their name. I'm one of those people.
Speaker 4: That's all right, because.
Speaker 1: I've mentored over one hundred drag quest Wow. It's something
Speaker 1: I put together because they used to have these talent
Speaker 1: comps where the kids would get up and they would
Speaker 1: get ripped to spreads. So I put together it was
Speaker 1: like my pay it forward. I'd get twelve kids that
Speaker 1: were knew at drag and I'd get them together for
Speaker 1: half an hour every week and I'd work on their
Speaker 1: performances and to see them grow with having a supportive
Speaker 1: network instead of just ah, we're want to laugh at you,
Speaker 1: you'd see these kids just that within twelve weeks talent
Speaker 1: would grow. It was really it was like my pay
Speaker 1: it forward.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what's crazy, and you have to be
Speaker 4: applauded for this many because Drag Race has done so
Speaker 4: much for drag. It's brought it to the world. I
Speaker 4: everyone's talking about drag, but even ten years ago, fifteen
Speaker 4: years ago, it wasn't a celebrated as it is now.
Speaker 4: And you have been doing it pre drag Race days.
Speaker 1: And it was really interesting. This came up today, I said,
Speaker 1: because what was sad that I didn't get to share
Speaker 1: on the show, which was spoken about in my confessional,
Speaker 1: was what it was like being a young boy in
Speaker 1: the seventies growing up as a gay person doing drag.
Speaker 1: It's very different. There's a lot of shame involved with that.
Speaker 1: Like the only gay thing I ever saw was Rocky
Speaker 1: Horror Picture Show. And it's just a very different journey
Speaker 1: for someone that and what I do love about drag Race.
Speaker 1: And I don't regret any of the kids idolighting idolizing
Speaker 1: people on drag Race because they get to see themselves
Speaker 1: and I think that's an extraordinary gift.
Speaker 4: Something you didn't have, right Horror Picture Show.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that at all.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like a lot of people start out
Speaker 2: with the goal of going on drag race, because I
Speaker 2: feel like it'd be like that for singers. You know,
Speaker 2: someone can sing really well everyone in their life, guys, oh, audition.
Speaker 3: For the voice. I feel like that's the natural. I
Speaker 3: think some of the drag queen they want to do
Speaker 3: drag race.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's my whole thing. When I did I
Speaker 1: did drag because I love dragon, I love performing and
Speaker 1: in the scene. At the time Sydney's scene was thriving,
Speaker 1: we'd have all these production shows. Now people do drag
Speaker 1: to get on drag Race. Yeah, they don't actually learn
Speaker 1: the craft of what it is to do an acting
Speaker 1: challenge or choreograph a routine. It's just about getting onto
Speaker 1: drag race.
Speaker 2: So do you feel like that's where if someone's starting out,
Speaker 2: that's where they shouldn't go wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should learn the craft of drag as well
Speaker 1: as learning how to do a great.
Speaker 4: Makeup and you sow though, can you say.
Speaker 1: I learned how to go? I did learn how to sew,
Speaker 1: but then I was sewing that because I had freezer
Speaker 1: eggs and when I was sewing it was ripping, so
Speaker 1: I thought I'll just staple it together and it works, well,
Speaker 1: did it?
Speaker 4: Can I say that that was chic? The TV? Were
Speaker 4: you holding a TV?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I had because people asked the TV? It was actually
Speaker 1: it was in the rubbish and I just took it
Speaker 1: and I was like doing rupauled what do they call
Speaker 1: them remails?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and people and they went to take it
Speaker 1: away and you're was like, oh, don't take a mini's television.
Speaker 1: She'll kill you.
Speaker 4: Can I have something? I've watch interviews with US queens
Speaker 4: from the US franchises. They say that they don't get
Speaker 4: provided any phones, you can't have internet in the room
Speaker 4: when you go back, but they give you pawn.
Speaker 3: Is that true? Did you get poor?
Speaker 1: I know, I'm darling. I haven't watched Paul since the
Speaker 1: seventies and I was only fourteen.
Speaker 3: Then yeah, what sort of porn do they give them?
Speaker 3: If it's not on a phone, it's a CD or
Speaker 3: a USB.
Speaker 4: I've heard It's funny that you say.
Speaker 1: I think it was you. He was talking about that
Speaker 1: she was watching herself in the mirror while she was
Speaker 1: watching Paul, and I seem to remember that conversation.
Speaker 3: It'd be a nice all right, What did you think
Speaker 3: of for that last lips thing?
Speaker 2: Better? What did you think of the song choice? Because
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it was great. I liked in
Speaker 2: the dark amazing.
Speaker 1: Oh what did I think of that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: All I thought is, oh my god, I'm dressed as
Speaker 1: a clown to this song.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a bit of a mismatch in turns the vibe.
Speaker 2: But hey, what can you do where songs get chosen
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 1: I'm guessing yeah, they get chosen and we get told
Speaker 1: the day before. Okay, so you don't And I sort
Speaker 1: of guessed I was going to be in the bottom
Speaker 1: after all those.
Speaker 3: Crickets with this is when you were doing Ellen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, could I be any worse?
Speaker 4: No, I actually think it was funny in the end.
Speaker 1: Was it funny?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: It was, I mean it was. It was so bad
Speaker 4: it was funny, and which is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, it's hard to be objective when
Speaker 1: you watch yourself. Do you know what?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 1: Love watching myself in the snatch game. There's me laughing
Speaker 1: at everyone else.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they didn't give that favor back to you,
Speaker 3: did they? O?
Speaker 1: Never I would say joke in that workroom, and it
Speaker 1: was like lead. I was like, okay, I'm as funny
Speaker 1: as I won't say.
Speaker 4: Well with the lip sync? Did you how does it work?
Speaker 4: Did you know you were going home? Because you seem
Speaker 4: shocked at the end, didn't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Or you said yeah yeah, I said, oh wow, is
Speaker 2: it the part where we shoot barely leaving I love?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that would be such a head
Speaker 3: fuck because they do that for the winner, don't they.
Speaker 1: That's what they do they Yeah, that's why I said it,
Speaker 1: because where we go back and really shoot Beverly going home.
Speaker 4: Were you shocked? Were you genuinely? Did you?
Speaker 1: You were generally shocked? And why I was shocked because
Speaker 1: I thought I because I was so liked by Rue
Speaker 1: and Michelle. I thought I was safe. Yeah, I thought,
Speaker 1: And that's why I thought. That's why I was shocked.
Speaker 1: On how but I think they did me a favorite
Speaker 1: set in your home as well, because mentally, I wasn't
Speaker 1: coping really, no, not at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you said that you felt isolated by the
Speaker 2: group in what way?
Speaker 3: What would they do?
Speaker 1: Just say, you're in the bus going to work and
Speaker 1: you talk on the bus and no one's interacting with you.
Speaker 1: And then I'm also.
Speaker 3: Just getting past the fact that they put you on
Speaker 3: a bus. How glamorous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and things like school camp Yeah, oh god, that's
Speaker 1: a bit of bullying school camp energy. I hate using
Speaker 1: that work. But you know what, I've never experienced that before.
Speaker 1: And when you first time you experience like if you
Speaker 1: look at the psychology of that, is that you do
Speaker 1: start to mentally it's like you suffocate.
Speaker 3: Do you think why may?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're back in your room, you're by yourself.
Speaker 1: Then you go to a group and it already been
Speaker 1: two weeks isolation prior to that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: And you add a competition element on top of that,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 1: I mean had all that. How like, I'm a human being.
Speaker 1: I may be tough, but I'm not that. Do you
Speaker 1: have a partner the mini I'm happily single. Good, I've
Speaker 1: got I've got five partners as I raised my left
Speaker 1: hand left.
Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, because it's like a right hander.
Speaker 1: Well, no, left hand is more like it's someone else.
Speaker 4: Then it feels a bit different. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of talk about the ageism stuff
Speaker 2: on the show. There's so many other queens that I
Speaker 2: would love to see give it a crack, Like, how
Speaker 2: do you think someone like Charisma Bell would do? Because
Speaker 2: I would just adore seeing her on that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea, to be perfectly honest, I
Speaker 1: really don't know.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: I wish there was more people of my ILK on
Speaker 1: that show, and I think it would have been very different.
Speaker 2: Have people of your ILK ever raised that it's something
Speaker 2: they might want to do or are you the only
Speaker 2: one that's given it a crack?
Speaker 1: Well, I know other people have, but I'm the only
Speaker 1: one of that has gotten on so far. But no,
Speaker 1: that's not true, because who was last season of my
Speaker 1: YLK It was actually No more Boat, who's even older
Speaker 1: than me, has auditioned and got quite close.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah yeah, but had.
Speaker 4: You audition Mini for any of the international seasons before
Speaker 4: the au No? So the first audition was the AUSSI version.
Speaker 1: Well, the AUSSI version I got interviewed by Skype the
Speaker 1: first year the way they did it, but then the
Speaker 1: second year I did an audition tape, and I think
Speaker 1: that's probably I think the audition tape is the way
Speaker 1: to go because then you get to see a world
Speaker 1: rounded performer. It's not just oh I like your personality
Speaker 1: over Skype, you might make great TV. I think there's more.
Speaker 1: That's why I think this year has been the casting.
Speaker 1: I think they did the right thing by doing auditions.
Speaker 4: Is there any budget given to you guys for the runways.
Speaker 4: I've always wanted to know that. No, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 4: all your.
Speaker 1: Investment and that's why, and especially at the time of
Speaker 1: the year we get fined out. We found out three
Speaker 1: weeks before Christmas. My god, so you can imagine trying
Speaker 1: to stress. It's really difficult.
Speaker 4: Yeah, God, I can build your organized presence, let alone
Speaker 4: brand Mantis costume.
Speaker 1: Like how promo looks were only like two weeks before
Speaker 1: we left, and that was over Christmas.
Speaker 4: It's like, your promo look was great, the racer was
Speaker 4: that your own?
Speaker 1: Actually that look is older? Do you know how old
Speaker 1: that look is? Do you want me to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It is eighteen years old. What do you mean I
Speaker 1: had it made when I will one de reward.
Speaker 4: Into no way the entry of the drag race.
Speaker 1: Look, yeah, that's how old that outfit is. So it's
Speaker 1: actually before drag race. I love people. I mean he's
Speaker 1: just doing rude drag race. No, it was made way before,
Speaker 1: but I wore it because of Mini keep of the car,
Speaker 1: and of course that's why I wore it. But it's
Speaker 1: funny what people take from that when you walk in
Speaker 1: the work rate.
Speaker 4: I didn't understand Ru's exit line when he said Mini
Speaker 4: Cooper can't wait for the world to drive Mini Coopers.
Speaker 4: I'm like, is this just a plug for Mini Coopers?
Speaker 1: Well, Mini on the outsip, but once you're in the
Speaker 1: summing real fast.
Speaker 4: Well all right, why don't you ask the famed question Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've got a question that we ask every guest.
Speaker 2: It's because we've got a lot of younger listeners and
Speaker 2: we just want to make sure that they know that
Speaker 2: there's more to life than partying and boys, which is
Speaker 2: why we've created our list of things better than drugs
Speaker 2: and dick.
Speaker 3: So it's just a little thing in life you appreciate.
Speaker 2: Like, for example, Faux first said her twelve dollars Kmart
Speaker 2: sushi maker Aubrey have said freshly cutting her toenails because
Speaker 2: sometimes you can just let them get out of hand.
Speaker 2: It's a little pleasure in life, fresh bed linen, something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's my mind? My hey? You account Real Housewives
Speaker 1: the Salt Lakes.
Speaker 4: Oh, the Real Housewives. No, that is good, better than
Speaker 4: drugs and dick.
Speaker 1: Oh do you know what?
Speaker 3: I find?
Speaker 2: Housewives is a little bit like dragwaysro I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: so many spin off I don't know where to start.
Speaker 1: You have you watched Hot Lake City? Now, I'll watch it.
Speaker 1: It's the best. Oh my god, it's the best.
Speaker 4: Do you think start with it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because it just Beverly Hills, right.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, The drama in Salt Lake City is
Speaker 1: worth it, like really yeah yeah yeah. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, but every episode there's drama and
Speaker 1: it's fantastic and.
Speaker 3: You can just sit back and say, God, I'm glad
Speaker 3: I'm not involved.
Speaker 1: It's a bit like season two of down Under.
Speaker 4: I was just I wonder why you like it? Minnie, Well,
Speaker 4: you were great on the show. It was so good
Speaker 4: to see, like you said a queen. If you're milk
Speaker 4: representing the you know, the elder queens. You're so great.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I apreciate.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about the word elder queen being is.
Speaker 1: Well, I am elder. I am of an elk like
Speaker 1: I don't but you know what, I was old at
Speaker 1: thirty five and drag I've been for years.
Speaker 2: It's weird though, because when all this talk of the
Speaker 2: ageism and elder queen and then I heard you say, oh,
Speaker 2: now that I'm fifteen, I'm like fuck.
Speaker 1: But that's what I found really extraordinary is the first
Speaker 1: question I was asked, literally sitting down at the table,
Speaker 1: was how old are you?
Speaker 3: I know, like with that foe. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: The very first question. I just think, wow, after all,
Speaker 1: and folks, it's from Sydney, so she knows who I am.
Speaker 1: That's like, okay, so that's the first question I get asked.
Speaker 3: You just got to play my favorite game, which is
Speaker 3: how old do I look?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I did you know?
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I'm great to have you on. Thank you
Speaker 4: for being And if you're in Sydney, go and see
Speaker 4: Mini Cooper because.
Speaker 1: You can see me for free.
Speaker 2: I'm real cheap, great I'll probably bump into on a
Speaker 2: night out, so yeah, I'll see you then.
Speaker 1: Oh you can't say bump.
Speaker 2: And we'll be back next Monday afternoon with another episode
Speaker 2: of Drag Race Deep Brief, won't we ye?
Speaker 4: We will see your anger.
Speaker 3: We're getting down, We're nearly halfway.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, who's your prediction? Who do you think Manifest
Speaker 4: will be sitting in this chair with us next week?
Speaker 3: Molly Poppins. I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have a sad feeling it'll be your guy. No,
Speaker 4: I know I wanted to go all the way, but
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna chop your guy off.
Speaker 3: Do not do not Manifest that please.
Speaker 4: Partly because I think she's quite cute, so it'd be
Speaker 4: nice and you just want to in hearra that maybe
Speaker 4: maybe maybe that's it part of it. Well, we'll find
Speaker 4: out next Monday.
Speaker 2: And also new episodes of our regular podcast Is It
Speaker 2: Just Me every Monday too.
Speaker 4: Yep, we'll see then, guys.
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