WEBVTT - DRAG RACE DEBRIEF: Minnie Cooper 💃

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they did me a favorite sending your

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<v Speaker 1>home as well, because mentally I wasn't coping really no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he said that you felt isolated by the

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<v Speaker 2>group in what way?

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<v Speaker 3>What were they doing? Is it just me podcast by

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of minches?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't suck it up? Hey, everybody, welcome back to Drag Race.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we're into week four now?

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<v Speaker 2>I just got to say this episode, Anna Conda finally

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<v Speaker 2>got the fucking recognition that long last.

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<v Speaker 4>I was worried too, because sometimes when they set it

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<v Speaker 4>up at the start like I need a win, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't get the win. But she did and well deserved.

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<v Speaker 4>Although close second was Uri. I think Ury guy could

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<v Speaker 4>have won snatch game.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yeah, he's absolutely stolen my heart. What

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<v Speaker 3>a sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 4>I love his dry wit and just like so unexpected.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not expect any of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good guy totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I also didn't expect this week's elimonee to be the

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<v Speaker 2>person that went home.

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<v Speaker 4>In all honesty, I mean no, I do think it

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<v Speaker 4>was her time though I think she ran her course

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<v Speaker 4>that ran out of petrol so to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>For good Ba.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, spoiler alert, it's a mini keeper and The reason

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that'd keep around is that, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>the drama, because there were some weeks where she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even win or lose challenges, and she was still the

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<v Speaker 2>queen that was most talked about.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the thing is, though, like she had pissed

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<v Speaker 4>everyone off, So I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think not everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the edit would have you think that, But

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you mean. I know what you mean

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<v Speaker 2>because she's not afraid of confrontation. And every week it

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<v Speaker 2>was a different person. There was Aubrey Haveve, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was Pamara fifth and then this week it was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of tension with Beverly Kills, but not

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<v Speaker 2>too much, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the common denominator in that was Mini not saying

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<v Speaker 4>it's her fault, but she was definitely in a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the drama. I quickly to talk about the episode

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<v Speaker 4>Snatch Game is I think everyone's favorite episode better than

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<v Speaker 4>the first season, because the first seasons was trash of

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<v Speaker 4>the down under of series so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So this is what I've gathered is that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, good, it's Snatch Game week.

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<v Speaker 3>This will be good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the reaction from everyone I've spoken to it

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<v Speaker 2>has been, oh that didn't hit the click, did it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? This time around was good. I actually was disappointed

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<v Speaker 4>in Spanky. I wanted more from Barry Barry Humphries. I

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<v Speaker 4>would have loved better Dame Edna. There wasn't that much.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that RuPaul didn't like other people impersonating

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<v Speaker 2>other drag.

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<v Speaker 3>Queens what I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, did you notice they didn't call

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<v Speaker 4>her Dame Edna? It was Barry Humphries. So maybe I did.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, that's clearly not badther, just like

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<v Speaker 3>his normal self.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I who else didn't they like Nini leaks were

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<v Speaker 4>shocking from Queen Kong the Housewives.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh right now, yeah, that reference went right over my head.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't much.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, like, guys, if you're gonna do a queen

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<v Speaker 4>or do an impression of someone from another series or

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<v Speaker 4>another show, we have to have seen it. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why the lies is a good because even me,

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<v Speaker 4>who's not a Eliza fan, knows what Eliza impression is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think that, oh, poor Minnie, she did

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen Degenerators and it just kind of fell on deaf year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like no one was really giving her the laughs

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. It was this crickets And I would just

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely die if Michelle Visage that said to me, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't funny. Oh it didn't make me laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, oh my god, I can never recover

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<v Speaker 2>from Michelle Vatage saying that to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be so bad. I mean, I know, because

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<v Speaker 4>you haven't seen all the US franchises, but they are

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<v Speaker 4>the ones that always do well in drag Race. Are

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<v Speaker 4>the queens that add like an extra hat on top

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<v Speaker 4>of it, like they'll do Ellen, but they'll do Ellen.

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<v Speaker 4>At a funeral, Ellen reveals that she's not actually gay,

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<v Speaker 4>like they always give them a fake storyline, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so how funny would it have been if it was Ellen?

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<v Speaker 4>But you know she actually has been living a lie

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<v Speaker 4>that she hasn't been gay her whole life and she's

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<v Speaker 4>actually straight hli right, you know, they add an extra

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<v Speaker 4>bit to it, which I think is why Hannah kind

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<v Speaker 4>of did so well, because it was Liza with just

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<v Speaker 4>a speech impediment, you know, in a weird way, or

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<v Speaker 4>while I.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound a bit weird laughing at that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't Liza like Batlin a bit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, she is, but Liza has always been zany and

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<v Speaker 4>nuts and they're scatting and.

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<v Speaker 3>At the puzzle.

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<v Speaker 4>So I thought it was really good, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're right. Hannah deserved the wind and her runaway was

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite. I loved it on the clown circis so gay?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see the editing fail that went viral?

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<v Speaker 2>So when Hannah was on the main stage getting feedback

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<v Speaker 2>from the judges, they cut away to a reaction from

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<v Speaker 2>one of the other queens in the background, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can just see Hannah's standing behind them. So she's gone

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<v Speaker 2>from on the main stage to standing up the back

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<v Speaker 2>in a matter of seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people really like to pick on Drag Race down

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<v Speaker 2>Under for just little fails like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I don't know what was going on with

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<v Speaker 4>the mic quality this week, but there was one confessional

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<v Speaker 4>form Mini that sounded like it was recorded on Apple

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<v Speaker 4>Voice notes so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It could have been where they're like, oh fuck, the

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<v Speaker 2>MIC's gone flat, get me iPhone.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly, it was bizarre. Yeah, it wouldn't anyway. Listen, we

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<v Speaker 4>should cut to the chase because we have her here,

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<v Speaker 4>the eliminated queen Mini Cooper. She's coming to visit us

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<v Speaker 4>in studio and she isn't if you like, for those

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<v Speaker 4>who are outside of Sydney, you might not know. Mini

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper is a drag institution.

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<v Speaker 2>In a st to me because I'm a Sydney gay,

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<v Speaker 2>She's the Mini Cooper, you know what I mean. She's

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<v Speaker 2>absolute drag royalty in Sydney, top.

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<v Speaker 4>Three drag queens. She's been doing it for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've been if you had a drunk night on

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<v Speaker 4>Stonewall or on Oxford Stree, you will have seen Mini

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper either on the stage or in the gutter.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also the second oldest drag queen to ever compete

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<v Speaker 2>in drag Race. Ever, I didn't know that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest. They really focused on that, the ages and things.

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<v Speaker 4>And she was also what Australia's got talent. I think

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<v Speaker 4>she did quite well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah back in the day, so this is not her

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<v Speaker 2>first taste of reality TV.

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<v Speaker 4>She's here with this now. Mini Cooper, the wonderful but glamorous,

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<v Speaker 4>the very tall Mini Cooper is here.

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<v Speaker 1>How Mini, And you know what they say about tall girls,

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<v Speaker 1>big personality.

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<v Speaker 2>In that bang on, I didn't realize how tall you

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<v Speaker 2>were and I was like oh she had to duck

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<v Speaker 2>through the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm six with five in heels and without Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>no swearing. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to drop an F.

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<v Speaker 1>Bomb, please I drop more than F bombs keeping coming.

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<v Speaker 4>As we learned. Can I just say, like, for all

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<v Speaker 4>the intents and purposes and all everything that's floating around online,

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<v Speaker 4>what you brought to drag Race was exactly what I

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<v Speaker 4>want out of drag Race.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's that?

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<v Speaker 4>No good television? You know what I mean? Like really

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<v Speaker 4>good TV? Yeah? It was entertaining. Are you pray of

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<v Speaker 4>what you had on drag Race?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of some things, not proud of others. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I think it sees me as a

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<v Speaker 1>fully round human person, none of us. I'm flawed, just

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone, and just more of my flaws were shown

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<v Speaker 1>the most Who do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>The heat's going to be on now that you're gone,

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<v Speaker 2>because surely they're going to have to hyper fixate on

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<v Speaker 2>someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because that's what's what I find really interesting about

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<v Speaker 1>that environment, because I think I was the person because

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<v Speaker 1>it was very much the young kids and me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even realize until the show air that I

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<v Speaker 1>had cong and spanking on my side until I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the confessionals, because you don't get to talk because once

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<v Speaker 1>you're in that workroom, you're working, and then you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus and you're not allowed to talk, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very small amount of talking. So I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea I had even had that kind of support. So

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<v Speaker 1>my reaction is to this group of people. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anybody else would react the same or if

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<v Speaker 1>it was just me, but it was almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>retaliation of what I was getting. And to watch it's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard for me to watch because I'm like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see why they didn't like me, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like I'm a little bit like you

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that if there's any sort of conflict,

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<v Speaker 2>I just like to nip it in the butt, nutted out,

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<v Speaker 2>just so that there's no risk of anyone festering and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting bottled up.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting that you say that there was in

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<v Speaker 1>the very first episode where I was talking about Aureay's costume.

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<v Speaker 1>We're walking to the runway and you don't see any

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<v Speaker 1>of this. They were actually talking behind my back, and

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<v Speaker 1>I go, if you've got a problem, talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and I'm having to discuss it. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>see me come into the workroom and I've got this

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<v Speaker 1>real confrontational conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>See, we don't have the context.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have the context, So I like this crazy

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<v Speaker 1>old white man.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, it's tricky because I do sometimes think Mitchell

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<v Speaker 3>picky battles, picky battles.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there anything that you were like, Oh, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have said that, anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. The thing in the last episode with Beverly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also too, I was at that point. I

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<v Speaker 1>really was at the end of my I wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>a great mental space at that point because I really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't talking to anyone. I was really on my own.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened prior to that is that they were saying, well, Minni,

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<v Speaker 1>you're witching behind people, and they were all at me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, Okay, if I'm not allowed a

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<v Speaker 1>bitch about behind someone's back, why are you allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>do it? And that was where that comes from. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that reads on television. It just

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<v Speaker 1>looks like I'm throwing Beverly under the bus, which I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually didn't think that there was too much tension

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<v Speaker 2>between you and Beverly.

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<v Speaker 3>She seems quite fond of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I actually love Beverly. You know what's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't see on the show either, is that I

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<v Speaker 1>actually confronted them all. I go, Okay, if someone's got

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, can just the one person speak to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Because whenever someone had a problem, it wasn't just I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a problem, Mini, let's talk. It was everyone having

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<v Speaker 1>someone with them. Is that because I'm an older person

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<v Speaker 1>and people can't stick up for themselves? So am I

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<v Speaker 1>really that scary? I think I'm pretty scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think some people do find it scary? Mitchell?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you find it when I'm a little bit assertive?

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<v Speaker 2>He gets he does find that scary. Think people don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how to cope sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I suppose that's the thing that I've had to

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<v Speaker 1>being a Yeah, I don't know. I really don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I am. To be honest, I think I've lost

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<v Speaker 1>my train of thought.

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<v Speaker 4>You were yourself and yeah, like I saidt the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, it was entertaining. Yeah, I'm watching a

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<v Speaker 4>drag show. You know, it's not a time at Village

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<v Speaker 4>like you don't have to be civil.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing with Beverly because I actually asked

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<v Speaker 1>the group, I go who, and Beverly goes, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one of the people that was joining the group,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like in aha moment for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like oh, and and other people owned up, which

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say who they were because we've made up since,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really like, oh you. And then Beverly

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<v Speaker 1>and I had this really nice moment which didn't err

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<v Speaker 1>on TV, and I apologized to her. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstood you, and we came to a place of understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of us were going through something me being the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest and her being the youngest. We were both going

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<v Speaker 1>through a similar sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you can see her turm oil of not

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<v Speaker 4>performing to the level that she expected to on the

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<v Speaker 4>show and.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly around trying.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and I would have liked to have seen

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<v Speaker 4>that shared, you know, trauma really be unpacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that is a moment that you didn't see.

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<v Speaker 1>And Beverly and I actually discussed that after the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I was how did she get feels? She goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was disappointed at what they didn't show that moment between

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<v Speaker 1>you and I actually showing each other respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been actually sticking out for Beverly online because

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<v Speaker 1>she's been told a little bit about giving her opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, she was asked to her opinions, and

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<v Speaker 1>she gave them. Leave the poor kid alone. She just

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<v Speaker 1>gave her opinions. I step away out together. She thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was terrible. Yeah, good honor Beverly. I'm team Beverly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I think that a lot of people misread her.

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<v Speaker 2>But she seems quite lovely deep down. But then, like

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<v Speaker 2>any other queen on the show, just has the capacity

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<v Speaker 2>to be shady.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the thing is, do you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>like about Beverly? She speaks to mind and I do

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and that's probably what we actually liked each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Beverly, is you twenty thirty?

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<v Speaker 1>If Beverly's like at twenty one, I never said, boob,

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<v Speaker 1>what's like when she's fifty?

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<v Speaker 3>That's very true.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I'm all in all that drama side. Did you

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy the experience? What I noticed with you, Minnie was

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<v Speaker 4>that you and Rue there was a mutual respect from

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<v Speaker 4>Rue that that Rue showed to you that I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think you showed to other queens.

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree. That was my favorite time on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Like and there was another moment. There were three times

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<v Speaker 1>I had chats with Rue and there was another walk through.

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<v Speaker 1>It was after I had my altercation with Aubrey and

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<v Speaker 1>we made up, and then Ruy goes, oh Minnie, hence

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<v Speaker 1>asking me. They always asking me me in the conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>always asking that question. I said, Aubrey and I have

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<v Speaker 1>made up. I said. When I started Drag, I was

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<v Speaker 1>told I was unwatchable. I don't know what Allboo's worried about.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Rue pisses himself. He says, meaning you should

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<v Speaker 1>release an album called Unwatchable. I said, yeah, can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>not to buy it. So it's really funny. And we

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing the humor in the trauma. I suppose yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we share that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was a moment on premiere night because

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<v Speaker 2>it was I was there too, and it was the

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<v Speaker 2>Drag queen's first time seeing the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Q and A on stage afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>You were a bit emotional, which I do love you

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<v Speaker 2>wear your heart on your sleeve, and there was something

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<v Speaker 2>you said along the lines of some of these queens

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<v Speaker 2>did something I would never do to anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that in reference that I was keeping an

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<v Speaker 3>eye out the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And you know what they didn't show it

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<v Speaker 1>in the edit actually is yeah, and what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was when I wore the HIV dress. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it in the untucked and oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about that on the runway, and I actually it

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<v Speaker 1>was more for me to say, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>share it with the group about these people of our

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<v Speaker 1>past and our history, and I thought that was disgusting. Yeah, perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what upset me. It wasn't me and anything that

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't let me speak about these people. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason why they were allowed to be on drag Race

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<v Speaker 1>is because of those people that passed, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>being able to share that, and that to me was heartbreak.

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<v Speaker 3>And so were they just making jokes all, No, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were making jokes. It was because I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>that thing of because I was like by ru and

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<v Speaker 1>I do talk a lot, but let's face we all

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot on that shod and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they did it intentionally to be malicious,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was really hurtful. Yeah, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the time to dismiss me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's a time and a place for that, and

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<v Speaker 3>there wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>That runway was gorgeous and shame I'd lost so much waste.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your tits, well, I like yours.

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<v Speaker 1>That the nip slip totally. But you know what's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny your legs into a little of their tits

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<v Speaker 1>were always out as well. It's almost sort of weird

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<v Speaker 1>that that sort of happened with the dress.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Abby who made the dress for me, was really

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<v Speaker 1>good friends with them, and he said, well, they always

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<v Speaker 1>had their tits out as well, So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a sign. It's in some strange kind of

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<v Speaker 1>If you.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't follow me on Instagram, go have a look, because

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<v Speaker 4>you put up photos of your sisters and that was

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<v Speaker 4>that was beautiful to see, especially after watching the runway

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<v Speaker 4>for your story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they really they joke about dying on the

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<v Speaker 1>same day and they did. It was just really I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's such a powerful story to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Week three with definitely the best one in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the runway.

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<v Speaker 4>Because was the runway that was the that was read

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<v Speaker 4>to FID film because every other week, fuck, they have

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<v Speaker 4>made it hard like there was rubbish insects and now.

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<v Speaker 3>Like clay is, how do they make it got easy

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<v Speaker 3>to work with?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think the insect Runway is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best they've ever had as far as the astraight what.

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<v Speaker 4>It is dressed like a no, you're right for the

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Uri?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Incredible?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? Uri is extraordinary?

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<v Speaker 3>Please tell me Yuri is it adorable in real life?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I've just sworn.

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<v Speaker 1>In love do you know what? I've fallen in love

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<v Speaker 1>with URI's Yuri is one of my favorite coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of her shell as well. Yeah, I'm loving watching

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<v Speaker 4>Howard great?

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<v Speaker 1>Was she a status Game?

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<v Speaker 4>So great?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely brilliant and so funny. I know, I actually stood

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<v Speaker 1>up for Spanky and Yuri because they were so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was, they were really hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love that Yuri just kind of she's really

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<v Speaker 2>shy and like doesn't quite believe in himself, but then

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<v Speaker 2>she just kills it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what? She's silent but deadly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred for those competitors always go very far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I'm a Yuris fan, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>You've said that you've mentored a lot of young drag

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<v Speaker 2>queens over the years, one of them being dear friend

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<v Speaker 2>of our show. Alright, hey, I got to ask, what

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<v Speaker 2>was the right hay like at the young drag queen.

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<v Speaker 1>She's fantastic, very super talented.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even remember what I Hayes drag name was.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't all right, okay, well, all right, hey what

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<v Speaker 2>that's what his stage name is now? I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>what his drag name was for you.

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<v Speaker 4>He loves branding, is shamelessly full of himself, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>probably just the right hat. He'd be the only drag

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<v Speaker 4>queen to not have a drag name.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's really funny? You know how people

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<v Speaker 1>laugh at RuPaul having all these people on her showing

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<v Speaker 1>that she forgets their name. I'm one of those people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all right, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentored over one hundred drag quest Wow. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>I put together because they used to have these talent

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<v Speaker 1>comps where the kids would get up and they would

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<v Speaker 1>get ripped to spreads. So I put together it was

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<v Speaker 1>like my pay it forward. I'd get twelve kids that

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<v Speaker 1>were knew at drag and I'd get them together for

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<v Speaker 1>half an hour every week and I'd work on their

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<v Speaker 1>performances and to see them grow with having a supportive

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<v Speaker 1>network instead of just ah, we're want to laugh at you,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd see these kids just that within twelve weeks talent

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<v Speaker 1>would grow. It was really it was like my pay

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<v Speaker 1>it forward.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what's crazy, and you have to be

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<v Speaker 4>applauded for this many because Drag Race has done so

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<v Speaker 4>much for drag. It's brought it to the world. I

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's talking about drag, but even ten years ago, fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, it wasn't a celebrated as it is now.

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<v Speaker 4>And you have been doing it pre drag Race days.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really interesting. This came up today, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>because what was sad that I didn't get to share

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, which was spoken about in my confessional,

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<v Speaker 1>was what it was like being a young boy in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies growing up as a gay person doing drag.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very different. There's a lot of shame involved with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the only gay thing I ever saw was Rocky

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<v Speaker 1>Horror Picture Show. And it's just a very different journey

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<v Speaker 1>for someone that and what I do love about drag Race.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't regret any of the kids idolighting idolizing

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<v Speaker 1>people on drag Race because they get to see themselves

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's an extraordinary gift.

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<v Speaker 4>Something you didn't have, right Horror Picture Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like a lot of people start out

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<v Speaker 2>with the goal of going on drag race, because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it'd be like that for singers. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone can sing really well everyone in their life, guys, oh, audition.

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<v Speaker 3>For the voice. I feel like that's the natural. I

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<v Speaker 3>think some of the drag queen they want to do

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<v Speaker 3>drag race.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's my whole thing. When I did I

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<v Speaker 1>did drag because I love dragon, I love performing and

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<v Speaker 1>in the scene. At the time Sydney's scene was thriving,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have all these production shows. Now people do drag

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<v Speaker 1>to get on drag Race. Yeah, they don't actually learn

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<v Speaker 1>the craft of what it is to do an acting

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<v Speaker 1>challenge or choreograph a routine. It's just about getting onto

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<v Speaker 1>drag race.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you feel like that's where if someone's starting out,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where they shouldn't go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they should learn the craft of drag as well

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<v Speaker 1>as learning how to do a great.

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<v Speaker 4>Makeup and you sow though, can you say.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned how to go? I did learn how to sew,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I was sewing that because I had freezer

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<v Speaker 1>eggs and when I was sewing it was ripping, so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I'll just staple it together and it works, well,

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<v Speaker 1>did it?

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<v Speaker 4>Can I say that that was chic? The TV? Were

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<v Speaker 4>you holding a TV?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I had because people asked the TV? It was actually

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the rubbish and I just took it

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like doing rupauled what do they call

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<v Speaker 1>them remails?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and people and they went to take it

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<v Speaker 1>away and you're was like, oh, don't take a mini's television.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll kill you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I have something? I've watch interviews with US queens

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<v Speaker 4>from the US franchises. They say that they don't get

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<v Speaker 4>provided any phones, you can't have internet in the room

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<v Speaker 4>when you go back, but they give you pawn.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true? Did you get poor?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm darling. I haven't watched Paul since the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and I was only fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Then yeah, what sort of porn do they give them?

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<v Speaker 3>If it's not on a phone, it's a CD or

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<v Speaker 3>a USB.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard It's funny that you say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was you. He was talking about that

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<v Speaker 1>she was watching herself in the mirror while she was

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<v Speaker 1>watching Paul, and I seem to remember that conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be a nice all right, What did you think

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<v Speaker 3>of for that last lips thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Better? What did you think of the song choice? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, it was great. I liked in

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<v Speaker 2>the dark amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what did I think of that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>All I thought is, oh my god, I'm dressed as

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<v Speaker 1>a clown to this song.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's a bit of a mismatch in turns the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, what can you do where songs get chosen

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<v Speaker 2>for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing yeah, they get chosen and we get told

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<v Speaker 1>the day before. Okay, so you don't And I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of guessed I was going to be in the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>after all those.

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<v Speaker 3>Crickets with this is when you were doing Ellen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my god, could I be any worse?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I actually think it was funny in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>It was, I mean it was. It was so bad

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<v Speaker 4>it was funny, and which is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, it's hard to be objective when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch yourself. Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Love watching myself in the snatch game. There's me laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at everyone else.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, they didn't give that favor back to you,

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<v Speaker 3>did they? O?

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<v Speaker 1>Never I would say joke in that workroom, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like lead. I was like, okay, I'm as funny

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<v Speaker 1>as I won't say.

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<v Speaker 4>Well with the lip sync? Did you how does it work?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know you were going home? Because you seem

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<v Speaker 4>shocked at the end, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Or you said yeah yeah, I said, oh wow, is

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<v Speaker 2>it the part where we shoot barely leaving I love?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was great.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, that would be such a head

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<v Speaker 3>fuck because they do that for the winner, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they do they Yeah, that's why I said it,

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<v Speaker 1>because where we go back and really shoot Beverly going home.

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<v Speaker 4>Were you shocked? Were you genuinely? Did you?

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<v Speaker 1>You were generally shocked? And why I was shocked because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I because I was so liked by Rue

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<v Speaker 1>and Michelle. I thought I was safe. Yeah, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I thought. That's why I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>On how but I think they did me a favorite

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<v Speaker 1>set in your home as well, because mentally, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>coping really, no, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you said that you felt isolated by the

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<v Speaker 2>group in what way?

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<v Speaker 3>What would they do?

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<v Speaker 1>Just say, you're in the bus going to work and

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<v Speaker 1>you talk on the bus and no one's interacting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm also.

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<v Speaker 3>Just getting past the fact that they put you on

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<v Speaker 3>a bus. How glamorous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and things like school camp Yeah, oh god, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of bullying school camp energy. I hate using

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<v Speaker 1>that work. But you know what, I've never experienced that before.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you first time you experience like if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the psychology of that, is that you do

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<v Speaker 1>start to mentally it's like you suffocate.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think why may?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're back in your room, you're by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you go to a group and it already been

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks isolation prior to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>And you add a competition element on top of that,

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<v Speaker 4>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean had all that. How like, I'm a human being.

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<v Speaker 1>I may be tough, but I'm not that. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a partner the mini I'm happily single. Good, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got I've got five partners as I raised my left

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<v Speaker 1>hand left.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, Yeah, because it's like a right hander.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, left hand is more like it's someone else.

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<v Speaker 4>Then it feels a bit different. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of talk about the ageism stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. There's so many other queens that I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to see give it a crack, Like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you think someone like Charisma Bell would do? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I would just adore seeing her on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have no idea, to be perfectly honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish there was more people of my ILK on

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<v Speaker 1>that show, and I think it would have been very different.

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<v Speaker 2>Have people of your ILK ever raised that it's something

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<v Speaker 2>they might want to do or are you the only

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<v Speaker 2>one that's given it a crack?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know other people have, but I'm the only

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<v Speaker 1>one of that has gotten on so far. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true, because who was last season of my

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<v Speaker 1>YLK It was actually No more Boat, who's even older

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<v Speaker 1>than me, has auditioned and got quite close.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah yeah, but had.

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<v Speaker 4>You audition Mini for any of the international seasons before

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<v Speaker 4>the au No? So the first audition was the AUSSI version.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the AUSSI version I got interviewed by Skype the

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<v Speaker 1>first year the way they did it, but then the

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<v Speaker 1>second year I did an audition tape, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably I think the audition tape is the way

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<v Speaker 1>to go because then you get to see a world

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<v Speaker 1>rounded performer. It's not just oh I like your personality

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<v Speaker 1>over Skype, you might make great TV. I think there's more.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think this year has been the casting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did the right thing by doing auditions.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any budget given to you guys for the runways.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always wanted to know that. No, no, no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 4>all your.

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<v Speaker 1>Investment and that's why, and especially at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the year we get fined out. We found out three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before Christmas. My god, so you can imagine trying

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<v Speaker 1>to stress. It's really difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, God, I can build your organized presence, let alone

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<v Speaker 4>brand Mantis costume.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how promo looks were only like two weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>we left, and that was over Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, your promo look was great, the racer was

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<v Speaker 4>that your own?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that look is older? Do you know how old

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<v Speaker 1>that look is? Do you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It is eighteen years old. What do you mean I

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<v Speaker 1>had it made when I will one de reward.

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<v Speaker 4>Into no way the entry of the drag race.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, yeah, that's how old that outfit is. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually before drag race. I love people. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>just doing rude drag race. No, it was made way before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wore it because of Mini keep of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course that's why I wore it. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny what people take from that when you walk in

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<v Speaker 1>the work rate.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't understand Ru's exit line when he said Mini

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper can't wait for the world to drive Mini Coopers.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, is this just a plug for Mini Coopers?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Mini on the outsip, but once you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>summing real fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Well all right, why don't you ask the famed question Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, we've got a question that we ask every guest.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because we've got a lot of younger listeners and

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<v Speaker 2>we just want to make sure that they know that

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<v Speaker 2>there's more to life than partying and boys, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why we've created our list of things better than drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and dick.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just a little thing in life you appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, for example, Faux first said her twelve dollars Kmart

0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 2>sushi maker Aubrey have said freshly cutting her toenails because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you can just let them get out of hand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little pleasure in life, fresh bed linen, something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's my mind? My hey? You account Real Housewives

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the Salt Lakes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, the Real Housewives. No, that is good, better than

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 4>drugs and dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh do you know what?

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I find?

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<v Speaker 2>Housewives is a little bit like dragwaysro I'm like, there's

0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>so many spin off I don't know where to start.

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<v Speaker 1>You have you watched Hot Lake City? Now, I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best. Oh my god, it's the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think start with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, because it just Beverly Hills, right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, The drama in Salt Lake City is

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<v Speaker 1>worth it, like really yeah yeah yeah. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is, but every episode there's drama and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fantastic and.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just sit back and say, God, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not involved.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like season two of down Under.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just I wonder why you like it? Minnie, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you were great on the show. It was so good

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<v Speaker 4>to see, like you said a queen. If you're milk

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<v Speaker 4>representing the you know, the elder queens. You're so great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. I apreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about the word elder queen being is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am elder. I am of an elk like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't but you know what, I was old at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five and drag I've been for years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird though, because when all this talk of the

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<v Speaker 2>ageism and elder queen and then I heard you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm fifteen, I'm like fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I found really extraordinary is the first

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.479
<v Speaker 1>question I was asked, literally sitting down at the table,

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>was how old are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like with that foe. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>The very first question. I just think, wow, after all,

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and folks, it's from Sydney, so she knows who I am.

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>That's like, okay, so that's the first question I get asked.

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<v Speaker 3>You just got to play my favorite game, which is

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<v Speaker 3>how old do I look?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I did you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Yeah, I'm great to have you on. Thank you

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 4>for being And if you're in Sydney, go and see

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Mini Cooper because.

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>You can see me for free.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm real cheap, great I'll probably bump into on a

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<v Speaker 2>night out, so yeah, I'll see you then.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can't say bump.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll be back next Monday afternoon with another episode

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of Drag Race Deep Brief, won't we ye?

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<v Speaker 4>We will see your anger.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting down, We're nearly halfway.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, who's your prediction? Who do you think Manifest

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 4>will be sitting in this chair with us next week?

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<v Speaker 3>Molly Poppins. I shouldn't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I have a sad feeling it'll be your guy. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I know I wanted to go all the way, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're gonna chop your guy off.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not do not Manifest that please.

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<v Speaker 4>Partly because I think she's quite cute, so it'd be

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<v Speaker 4>nice and you just want to in hearra that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe that's it part of it. Well, we'll find

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<v Speaker 4>out next Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, we'll see then, guys.

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