Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast. You're wearing a watch today
Speaker 1: for me? Yes, welcome back to the podcast. Let just
Speaker 1: ask if I'm wearing a watch, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Is it functional?
Speaker 1: I can't read the time, babe?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Also the only reason I'm wearing it is because my
Speaker 1: dad has started selling watches. Oh, okay, salesman. First it
Speaker 1: was cars, nows watches. It was insurance when he was
Speaker 1: my age, perfect, very good at it, thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: a week, babes, absolutely burning through the cash selling insurance door.
Speaker 1: The door burning through it? What's that mean? The cash
Speaker 1: burning new cash?
Speaker 2: He spent it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, knocking, he said. I went down King Street in Sydney,
Speaker 1: where all the globes are knocked on every person's door.
Speaker 1: I sold insurance. He was a real one. I sent
Speaker 1: him a message because he asked me every time I
Speaker 1: call him, maybe call him twice a week, are you
Speaker 1: wearing my watch? Are you wearing my watch? Because he
Speaker 1: gave me this watch. Oh, he's like fixated. So I
Speaker 1: sent him a photo of the watch. He said, elegance.
Speaker 1: You can't buy class. Oh facts? Is that a dig?
Speaker 1: Is it. It's not actually sitting with I thought it
Speaker 1: would go off sis.
Speaker 3: How great is that?
Speaker 1: You don't people just ask you. It's just like preoccupied
Speaker 1: me wearing this watch.
Speaker 2: And now you've worn it's not what to do himself and.
Speaker 1: It's just not suiting my aesthetic, but I have to
Speaker 1: wear it. It's cute anyway, bring back watches for people
Speaker 1: who cannot read analog of time and it was quite
Speaker 1: a blut on my household growing up, also diding no timetables. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. Let's go to the podcast you're
Speaker 1: listening to, Flex and Rooms on Kita. Someone has messaging
Speaker 1: and wants us to know if they're the asshole for
Speaker 1: not letting their partner watch their favorite show.
Speaker 3: Let's rebrand asshole. I think if more people were just
Speaker 3: open assholes, we would be more excited people weren't assholes.
Speaker 1: Definitely, that might be an asshole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, If you have to ask, I'm gonna say yeah.
Speaker 1: Based up. My boyfriend and I have a weekly date
Speaker 1: night where we cooked in out and watch a movie
Speaker 1: or TV show.
Speaker 2: Love date night. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Recently, my boyfriend has been going through a tough time
Speaker 1: dealing with his anxis and he's been using his favorite
Speaker 1: TV show as a way to cope. Okay, mine is
Speaker 1: Sex and the City. Last Friday, I that we watch
Speaker 1: a romantic movie instead of his show, but he insisted
Speaker 1: that we watch it because it helps him relax. However,
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the mood for it and wanted to
Speaker 1: watch something different. He got upset and revealed to me
Speaker 1: that the show was a comforting escape for him during
Speaker 1: his panic attacks. Wow, he's hitting me with a panic attacks.
Speaker 1: That's mean, that's real going for I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to react because I don't want to invalidate his feelings. However,
Speaker 1: I also didn't want to give up her date night tradition.
Speaker 1: He accused me of being selfish and not understanding his
Speaker 1: mental health struggles, and I felt like he was using
Speaker 1: his personal issue to guild me into watching something he
Speaker 1: said weaponize watching something I didn't want to watch. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm told between when he's support him and needing our
Speaker 1: date night to be enjoyable for both of us. So
Speaker 1: am I the ourseholf for not letting my boyfriend watch
Speaker 1: his favorite TV show during date night? We were a
Speaker 1: date night. You should be doing one for one I,
Speaker 1: for one, have a housemate who I and she would
Speaker 1: say it herself has dog tastes in movies in cinema.
Speaker 1: I probably do too, you actually now yeah, but she's
Speaker 1: like watching rom coms all day and all night, like yeah,
Speaker 1: rom comms from ten years ago, Like really not it.
Speaker 1: We did watch Bridge Jones the other day and that
Speaker 1: was lit. But I will say, you need to find
Speaker 1: a happy medium. She doesn't like watching scary movies, so
Speaker 1: instead we come in the middle and we watch true
Speaker 1: crime youtubes. That is a happy medium. So I think
Speaker 1: you and your partner need to either get a happy
Speaker 1: medium and both supper or do bit by bit time
Speaker 1: by time because your mental health is in a good place.
Speaker 1: It's in a good place because you put yourself first.
Speaker 3: I just think, if you can't decide on a show,
Speaker 3: don't watch a show for date night, Just why don't
Speaker 3: you do things you both actually really enjoy, like.
Speaker 2: What I don't know, go act throwing.
Speaker 3: I just think like when things that are meant to
Speaker 3: be really sweet become regimented and also points of contention,
Speaker 3: swap it out. Like I think the idea of compromising
Speaker 3: and setting a boundary is cool for things that are
Speaker 3: big and matter. But you're wasting all your relationship fuel
Speaker 3: on something that's so inconsequential. If you can't agree on
Speaker 3: a show, eat talk and go do your fun activity
Speaker 3: I really want to do together, as opposed to being like, well,
Speaker 3: he's depression show. I don't want to watch it. I
Speaker 3: want to like, I get it because I love it.
Speaker 3: But it's do you am I Are we hearing the
Speaker 3: same thing? Yeah, it sounds insane. Just don't watch shows
Speaker 3: on date night. You have six other days of the
Speaker 3: week to watch a show, do a different data activity.
Speaker 1: I will say, there's nothing better than the feeling of
Speaker 1: tucking in with your favorite show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which gets ruined because your boyfriend and he wants
Speaker 3: to watch his depression show and you think he's weaponizing
Speaker 3: his mental health.
Speaker 1: So you can't watch your show, the depression show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's what the says.
Speaker 1: You're in flexing fromes on cater. We need to learn
Speaker 1: as a community, as a satire, hey, how to correctly
Speaker 1: flirt on messages?
Speaker 2: Okay generally, but of course virtually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are a communicative queen and we could learn
Speaker 1: a thing or two. However, I'm getting some mixed messages
Speaker 1: when I'm messaging a man. Okay, sometimes I'm not sure
Speaker 1: are you being friendly?
Speaker 3: There was just an instance deniability at work.
Speaker 1: A good looking man comes through. Is there some id
Speaker 1: eye action? Or am I in my bag? What he
Speaker 1: needs to do? Send me a follow up messaging? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's not happening anyway. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: how to flirt through instant messaging.
Speaker 3: Number one, messaging as opposed to why, Hey, I have
Speaker 3: had relationships over email, two of them, all right, so
Speaker 3: be careful you're speaking of for real.
Speaker 1: Both ended numbers naturally. Jordan in the Shoes asking why.
Speaker 1: One of them was during lockdown, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how he got onto emailing, but it was really cute.
Speaker 1: And then the other one he was overseas. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure why we do email again, it was quite romantic.
Speaker 1: I'm a word stress. Okay, Oh yeah you are. I'm
Speaker 1: a word stress, So it makes sense. Number one, start
Speaker 1: the conversation casually. There's no reason to be nervous when
Speaker 1: it comes to instant messaging flirting. If the person you
Speaker 1: want to talk she doesn't want to talk to you,
Speaker 1: They've got the option of simply not responding to your message.
Speaker 2: I mean fair.
Speaker 1: But also if you barely know someone, it can be
Speaker 1: a good idea to have an excuse to start the conversation. Eg. Hey,
Speaker 1: I saw a dog on your story. What's its name?
Speaker 1: My old housemate did that that. They're now in a
Speaker 1: three year relationship, live in rural Victoria, guys, So dogs
Speaker 1: are really great in.
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's like one of those don't knock into
Speaker 2: your try it things.
Speaker 1: Okay, So don't dwell on the small took or so,
Speaker 1: like a miner or two is good to break the ice.
Speaker 2: A minute in text seeing could be days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Number three joke, I'll let you do what
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: More one line.
Speaker 1: Item number four tease playfully. Now this is where I
Speaker 1: draw the line. I'm not into teasing. I'm teased often
Speaker 1: to work. Some would say it's bordering on workplace billing,
Speaker 1: but as you know, I don't believe in HR, so
Speaker 1: I'll be dealing with that internally in my single. You
Speaker 1: gotta be reasonable about teasing. Perhaps no teasing on the
Speaker 1: body front, or perhaps the intellect front.
Speaker 3: I'd say no teasing, but a general air of playfulness
Speaker 3: is better than the alternative.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For example, here's one let's say a band that
Speaker 1: she or he likes. You could say those guys are
Speaker 1: nothing but poses and their fans are the worst. They said,
Speaker 1: use cheeky emoticons, which I'm a massive fan of. I
Speaker 1: like the two eyes with the lip in the middle.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then if you're getting a good response, heat things
Speaker 1: up a little bit.
Speaker 3: What you see the first texting interaction?
Speaker 1: Are we eating things up? Okay? Sorry? And they've given
Speaker 1: us one example, and it's a person messaging Drake, not
Speaker 1: the singer, just someone else called Drake.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 1: They said, what band do you like? They reply? I
Speaker 1: like Coldplay? Someone said mine too. What's your favorite song?
Speaker 1: Mind's fix You? They reply, my girlfriend? My girlfriend?
Speaker 2: That is that?
Speaker 1: Do you see what that is?
Speaker 3: That's a warning sign right there. That is a subliminal message.
Speaker 1: You know. They've got a song called warning Sign, cor Play.
Speaker 3: And fix You and Yellow and I will try to
Speaker 3: fix you.
Speaker 1: Don't get out. I don't have time, they replied, my
Speaker 1: girlfriend really likes that song. Although my personal favorite Strawberry Swing,
Speaker 1: to which you say, hey, I gotta run talk to
Speaker 1: you later. Once you hit me with a girlfriend, I've
Speaker 1: gotta get out. Guys, flex and rooms, I'm kaita FLEXI.
Speaker 1: I have an issue. It's quite a pressing issue, personal issue,
Speaker 1: if you will, in my messages. Why has every started
Speaker 1: communicating with me in voice notes? I've seen an upwards
Speaker 1: trend of people sending me minutes long voice notes, and
Speaker 1: I have some rules and regulations I don't want to
Speaker 1: put in place.
Speaker 3: You have a voice notes vibe, so it surprises me
Speaker 3: that this offends you.
Speaker 2: You also have a gift vibe.
Speaker 1: Oh, babes, I'm sending gifts, okay, set.
Speaker 3: Cut from the same cloth. See, I would never send
Speaker 3: a gift, but I was sent a voice.
Speaker 1: Note last night. I sent that you get a car,
Speaker 1: You get a car to a friend.
Speaker 2: Millennial.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. I think we need to bring
Speaker 1: back the millennial. Okay, it's coming back around. It's going
Speaker 1: to be cool soon. So I'm staying in my lane.
Speaker 2: Okay, product cycle.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of pretending that I was born in ninety
Speaker 1: ninety six. Guys, I'm firmly on the cast. I say
Speaker 1: this sort of say voice notes. I'm off them. I've
Speaker 1: had enough unless you're sending me a detailed description as
Speaker 1: soon as you wake up of the dream that I
Speaker 1: was in where I was acting cool, hot, sexy and
Speaker 1: also fun. Leave it all right? Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: People are out here and only just discover this. People
Speaker 1: are sending me like three one and a half minute
Speaker 1: voice notes I'm going through. I'm like, oh, I have
Speaker 1: to remember this point, at this point, in this point. Okay, yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it. Okay, I go to reply, oh, call,
Speaker 1: I have to listen to it again. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that you can actually scrub through it. I didn't so
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, start again. Yep, we're into the
Speaker 1: one minute mark. Also, you can't go out of the messages.
Speaker 1: I just I'm sick of it. Guys, unless you have
Speaker 1: a textual relationship where that's the only way that you
Speaker 1: communicate what's textual textual? On the text? When am I
Speaker 1: ever able to you know? You're sending me like, how
Speaker 1: do I say sensitive information? I open up a text
Speaker 1: at CATA that says flexus a bush pig. What do
Speaker 1: I do? Now? We both implicated.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, May I please take the floor
Speaker 3: allow me. I think what voice memoing is doing is
Speaker 3: it's introducing intimacy back into phone based relationships. Texting, emojiing,
Speaker 3: giffing is so one dimensional, lacks nuance and context. And yes,
Speaker 3: if I know you well enough, I can kind of
Speaker 3: chuck it in myself. But the moment that I get
Speaker 3: a look sonic in my ear, I'm like, I'm really
Speaker 3: in it. I'm here mixed medium messaging, emmm, not just imagery,
Speaker 3: bring back voice notes. I think it's really beautiful, intimate.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what you're scared of, really being vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Listen, if you're going to send me a voice note,
Speaker 1: send me the emoji talking, make it three day. You
Speaker 1: know you can do that.
Speaker 3: Do you want even some context like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: I just had the craziest experience.
Speaker 2: And then the voice note is that anyone.
Speaker 1: I just had the craziest experience about you?
Speaker 3: For me allowed me to take a peek into her
Speaker 3: group chat today, which is an honor that I appreciate.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not something that.
Speaker 3: You can do lightly, and I respect that, and I
Speaker 3: also I'm so grateful for that opportunity to be invited
Speaker 3: into your life in that way. Now, what I saw
Speaker 3: potentially scarred me in the moment, but I've soon recovered
Speaker 3: what was it for him?
Speaker 1: So our group chat is called brox angels because my
Speaker 1: friends and I were once taught surfing by a mutual
Speaker 1: man friend called Brock.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Shout out Brock. My friend Michelle has sent a foe.
Speaker 1: It is a flyer that was sent into her letterbox.
Speaker 1: She lives in Bondai Beach, a physical letterbox.
Speaker 2: Mind, you're not an inbox.
Speaker 1: No no. It is a poster with a man and a woman.
Speaker 1: A woman wearing a triangle bikini, TVT neon neo and
Speaker 1: the man in a pair of short blue boxes with
Speaker 1: a ripped physeeke. They are holding hands.
Speaker 2: Walking off into the sunset or something.
Speaker 1: Yes with palm tree appliques. It says find fit, Love
Speaker 1: presents fitness speed dating. It goes on go on ten
Speaker 1: mini dates with the opposite sex on the beach, flirt chats.
Speaker 3: On opposite sex. They said heteros only. Don't play with that.
Speaker 3: Don't play with anything else.
Speaker 1: You too, queer baiting, get out, flirt chat and work
Speaker 1: out in nature not online. A night of meeting fit,
Speaker 1: eager and love thirsty singles who share the same passion
Speaker 1: as you with a QR code. And it's on the
Speaker 1: eighteenth of May twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: It's giving high intensity into the training they do meet
Speaker 2: like the Babes people.
Speaker 1: There's quite a lot of sexual energy in the gym.
Speaker 1: Believe I'm not. I believe yeah, Yeah, you got it
Speaker 1: the gym, yeah more than I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe you.
Speaker 1: So apparently the cost is fifty dollars and eighty eight cents,
Speaker 1: which we think in the group chat is a scam.
Speaker 2: You have to be thirty. What are you paying for?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, you got to be thirty three
Speaker 1: to foury five years old and it starts at seven pm.
Speaker 1: So my thinking is that.
Speaker 2: PM, I should It's not even downlight. Same with you,
Speaker 2: it's to be pitch black.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I should go down there. Don't qualify, no,
Speaker 1: but yeah go as a punter, to go watch oh
Speaker 1: observational observational like when you're in thirteen hundreds and your
Speaker 1: best friend buys your front road tickets to the.
Speaker 3: Town Center Vibe. I think you should go. This concept
Speaker 3: is really interesting. It really pains me, and I'm so
Speaker 3: sure my ancestors and their ancestors would hate to know
Speaker 3: that this these lengths we've got to go through to
Speaker 3: find love back in the good old days, just pick
Speaker 3: the local baker.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's.
Speaker 3: Fine, and if not, the fisherman's chill too, you know.
Speaker 3: If not, like, I'm sure your brother knows who can
Speaker 3: sort it out.
Speaker 1: To go back to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is inane.
Speaker 3: You're telling me, in order to find someone I'm romantically
Speaker 3: compatible with, gotta put on spandex and lycra pay you fifty,
Speaker 3: pay a stranger fifty dollars and eighty eight cents to
Speaker 3: go talk to ten people of the opposite sex while
Speaker 3: I'm sweating and huffing and puffing.
Speaker 2: Absurd dystopian. I love it. See there.
Speaker 1: It's like when we were on dating apps and they
Speaker 1: say looking for someone who's fit, and you say, just
Speaker 1: say no fatties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just say what you mean.
Speaker 1: You're listening to flex and frooms on Kaita.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've kept your finger on the pulse,
Speaker 3: your eye to the streets, but we're seeing a lot
Speaker 3: of denim maxi skirts.
Speaker 2: Not a trend that.
Speaker 3: Has happened in my lifetime when I've been able to
Speaker 3: invest in fashion. But I jumped on quick enough because
Speaker 3: what can I say, like a bit of deadim like
Speaker 3: long hem lime. I saw this TikTok video of this
Speaker 3: chick recording the streets of New York and being like,
Speaker 3: how they all dressed the same way. In the comments,
Speaker 3: We're like, oh, I think they're like amish.
Speaker 2: No, they're not armied.
Speaker 3: She's just literally trained. So I kept scrolling and somebody said,
Speaker 3: isn't this just a sign we're going into a recession?
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, is that a gager to understand? Then? I thought,
Speaker 3: same as a lipstick index, the hem line index. It's
Speaker 3: the theory that suggests the skirt length, so your hem
Speaker 3: lines get longer when the economy is in strife. Now
Speaker 3: they haven't announced a recession. Okay, the RBA cash rates
Speaker 3: going up, so it currently mean one thing.
Speaker 1: But to that point, is it really that subconscious?
Speaker 3: Like do I really feel like covering up my body
Speaker 3: when money is tight? Do I really feel like showing
Speaker 3: more bosom and chess and stomach and leg when money
Speaker 3: is flowing? I'm not sure, But I would like to
Speaker 3: do a grash in another life, all right, not this one.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in data. I want to read it,
Speaker 2: I don't want to make it.
Speaker 1: I can see that like in the sixties is swinging sixties,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of like a time of prosperity and
Speaker 1: growth then yeah, but I got to catch you from
Speaker 1: General Barbican and the archive will colorized footage babes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the hemlines were high. There's a bit of like
Speaker 1: just autumn winter high hemline at the Melbourne Spring Racing
Speaker 1: Carnival Festival. I see high skirts in exciting times. I've
Speaker 1: been known to wear a high skirt in a winter
Speaker 1: bit of a splendor festival with the time. I've never
Speaker 1: seen you in a minie. It was a different era.
Speaker 1: But I do love myself for a minting. So twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen or twenty eighteen Flex, Yeah, I a reckon some
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