1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: It feels really early in the year to have a derby. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: It's round three and it's Western Derby fifty six and 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: the young defender from the Dockers is our man this 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: year at Freemantle, hateing younger morning, Bud, good morning. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Good morning. Back to the weekend just gone. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: We'll quickly touch on that before we get to the derby, 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: really quick, be quick. Fore I lost in Melbourne by 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 3: one point. I always wonder what is worse for you, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: a one point loss or a flogging. 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 4: That's a great question. They're both equally bad. But Okay, 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 4: at one. 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 5: Point loss probably hurts more straight after a game, whereas 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 5: a flogging ickon hurts longer throughout the Yeah, I think 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 5: about it more, but initially after a one point last 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 5: year hurting a lot. But yeah, you can move on 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 5: pretty quick, whereas when you get flogged, that's sort of 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 5: situate it for all. 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Roots seemed to be in control most of 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: the day, but all of a sudden everything happened in 21 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: four or five minutes at the end. That must be 22 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: bizarre when you're out there. 23 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that was one thing that was a little 24 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 5: bit frustrating after the game was Yeah, it took us 25 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 5: to the last five minutes to start to play with 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 5: a bit of urgency in an intent, and it looked 27 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 5: like we were on top, and weald to kick a 28 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: few guys and in the late charge, and yeah, it 29 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 5: was sort of frustrating that wasn't there earlier. 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: Immediately after the game, I saw some carry on about 31 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: people talking about a final siren incident, and I mean, 32 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: it's been sorted out now, but the decision not to 33 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: award an outer bounds free kick to Fremantle was all 34 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: the controversy. Vision showed the ball hadn't crossed the line 35 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: before the siren, and the AFL has said the umpire 36 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: made the correct call, but the boundary umpire did admit 37 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: that they didn't even hear the siren. Do you have 38 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: any thoughts on that whole The way that played out. 39 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 5: It was very loud out there, so I can definitely 40 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 5: understand why he might have not heard. 41 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the decision was probably correct. 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: The AFI reviewed it, and yeah, had it gone out 43 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: a few seconds earlier, it might have been different, but 44 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: that was the decision and we just got to live 45 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: with it. 46 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: So disappointing, but yeah. 47 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: A few changes that made the difference in the end, 48 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: and you know, not not a win, but to see 49 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Brendan Cox go forward and kick a goal immediately, and 50 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't any one the much loved Sonny Walters out 51 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: there at the end in that last quarter. Was he 52 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: was inspirational listing he was. 53 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 5: He was really electric and yeah, we know that that's 54 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: what he brings. He brings a lot of energy and 55 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: excitement and the fans love him. And it was good 56 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 5: to see Coxy go forward. And as a fellow defender, 57 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: it's always nice when the defender kicks a goal, and 58 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: yeah it was. They brought a lot of energy late 59 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: in the game and we almost got across the line. 60 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: But yeah, we could have, we could have used that 61 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: energy a bit earlier. 62 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: You almost took possible mark of the year. 63 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 64 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be disappointing. 65 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a little bit unrealistic. I got a bit excited. 66 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Jeremy Howe was there. 67 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: I went a bit early. Yeah, yeah, I won't be 68 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: I won't be doing that again. 69 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: But that was right in front of me. And I'm thinking, 70 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: when you use people as step laders like that, can 71 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: you check with their traffic control first? Because you did 72 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: get upretty high. 73 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 4: Yeah I did. 74 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, he sort of collapsed under me, but yeah, I 75 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: should have. I really didn't have to jump. I think 76 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: the ball was going over his head anyway. I could 77 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 5: have just stood there and marked it well ahead of 78 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 5: my You never know. 79 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Jake Gramira looks like he's settled into the slide very nicely. 80 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: He has. Yeah, he had a great performance on the 81 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: weekend and. 82 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 5: He stood up late kids a few clutch goals, which 83 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 5: was really important and what we really needed. So yeah, 84 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: he's continuing to work and his synergyear within our midfield, 85 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: and I think we can look forward to some good things. 86 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: You're probably both down opposite ends most of the game. 87 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: But Griffin log changing clubs and going to North It's 88 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: not unusual for people to change clubs these days. It 89 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: happens a lot. But did you bump into him at all? 90 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: It was he loud? Was he quiet? 91 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: That was he? 92 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a little bit to say, which doesn't 93 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: surprise him. That's sort of Chris character. Yeah, yeah, but no, 94 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: I thought. I thought he played a good game and 95 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: it's good to see him get him some opportunity another club, 96 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: and yeah, the boys are getting stuck into him, which 97 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 5: was all good fun. So yeah, it would have been 98 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: nice to get the chocolates over him. 99 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, stirring about his new haircut. 100 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: And yeah whatever, yea, he took the chocolates this week. 101 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: Well, the dogs are none for two. Fucking borrow a 102 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: cricket term. This isn't the start the team would have 103 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: been hoping for. 104 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: No, not at all, not at all. And we acknowledge 105 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 5: that we haven't played our best foot yet. It's pretty 106 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 5: pretty clear and we know what needs to fix and 107 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: what needs to happen to get some wins on the board. 108 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: So no better opportunity than in the derby to sort 109 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: of turn that around. And we're really excited for it. 110 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: It's our home game as well, so we'll have the 111 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 5: Purple Army there in full force. And yeah, it's a 112 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 5: great opportunity to sort of get our season going. 113 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you try and block it out? I know 114 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: Paul Hazebly's one more Glendenning Allen Meddles than anyone out there. 115 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: He's on the news last night saying, oh it's zip 116 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: and three can't play finals. Do you just ignore that 117 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of chatter? 118 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, you tried to obviously, it's pretty hard to not 119 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 5: hear it, yea, But yeah, you've got to ignore it. 120 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 5: You just got to focus on what we can control 121 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: and the people within the four walls of the club 122 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: that are giving us advice and telling us where we're at. 123 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: Really. 124 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: But yeah, everyone's got an opinion and you can't read 125 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 5: into it too much, and we're certainly trying to block 126 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: it out. 127 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: Surely that's slightly ridiculous. I'd like to see the statistics 128 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: on that. I'm sure someone would have it to hand 129 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: if just imagine statistics on it, all, right, Derby time, 130 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: Hayden number fifty six. The Dockers have won the last three. 131 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: It's kind of a must win. It's a must win 132 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: for every game is the must win, isn't it. How 133 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: do you feel going into the derby? 134 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, really excited. 135 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 5: Obviously we haven't started to deal where we wanted, but 136 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 5: there's no better opportunity to get our season going the 137 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: inn of derby. Everyone gets up and about for a derby. 138 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 5: It's a great game. The crowd's going to be amazing. Yeah, 139 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 5: it's a good opportunity to start playing our foot and 140 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 5: building our brand. 141 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: And we were just chetting off here. The Eagles were 142 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: good last weekend, but things can change, and things can 143 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: change for your season's fortunes in one quarter. Cape you 144 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: can turn things around and all of a sudden things click. 145 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly right. And we feel we've been pretty close 146 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: to building that momentum and having that change. And I 147 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: think one of the themes of the last two weeks is 148 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 5: that we're creating a lot of opportunities, we're just not 149 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: capitalizing it. Once we can sort of capitalize on those opportunities, 150 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: we feel like we can swing the momentum in our 151 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 5: favor and things can change really quick. That's why we're 152 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 5: excited by the opportunity. We've underperformed the last two weeks, 153 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 5: but we can see in our game plan that we're 154 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 5: more than capable of pulling it all together and it's 155 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 5: only a matter of time. 156 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: And really excited. 157 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about Five's foot. Will he won't. He don't 158 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: know it till Thursday. 159 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: Don't know it till Thursday. 160 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 5: He's been grumbling for a while now, he's been battling 161 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 5: with it for most pre season. But yeah, he'll train 162 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 5: Thursday and hopefully he's good to go, and I'm sure 163 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: he'll be itching to get back out there. 164 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, since you've been in Perth, you know about the 165 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: vibe about derbies now, But as it growing up as 166 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: a Collingwood supporter as a kid, did you care about them? 167 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Do you just see them? Did you think much about it? 168 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: Not really? 169 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 5: No, to be honest in Melbourne, footing in West Australia 170 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: wasn't televised very often. Yeah, I didn't know Foxdale, so 171 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 5: I didn't catch a lot of derbies growing up. But 172 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: I did go and watch West Coast first, Collingwood at 173 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: the two thousand and eight and Grand five, so I 174 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 5: already sort of didn't like West Coast before I even 175 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: got drafted to free So it's sort of fit in 176 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 5: perfectly coming to Freio already already had a little dislike 177 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 5: for it. 178 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Did break your heart? 179 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 4: They did? 180 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 5: They did, so it's pretty easy to not like them. 181 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: Funny they say the same thing about Collinghood. 182 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: Just as long we have said he doesn't buy into 183 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 3: Fremantle needing a faster game plan, claiming a quick fix 184 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: up forward would get the docors rolling. Howeveryone feels. 185 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 5: I think people in the media probably have different views, 186 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 5: but yeah, particularly within our four walls, that's what we're 187 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: feeling we've reviewed the game last two weeks and we've 188 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: actually created a lot of opportunities from our back half 189 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: going forward. We had nineteen back half to forward half 190 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: sort of ball movement clips and yeah, we feel like 191 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: it's just that last piece of the puzzle. Who is 192 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: our execution and connection going forward? And I think our 193 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: ball movement is in pretty good spot. 194 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: We just need to tidy up our well. 195 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 5: Defense would help because we can hopefully lock it in 196 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: our forward half a bit more and create opportunities. And 197 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: then yeah, if we can just work in our connection 198 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 5: and go a long way to scoring. 199 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Can three or four to have Brendan Cox down forward 200 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: from the start of the game this week, whether five 201 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: he plays or not. He's such a good defender, but 202 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: he did start at the club. 203 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: We'd love to have two of him so we can 204 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: put it. 205 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's such a damaging player, but I think, yeah, 206 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 5: he's really valuable in our back line. 207 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: He plays a critical role. 208 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 5: You saw him around one He had twenty marks and yeah, 209 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: being able to win the ball back in our back 210 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: half and get our ball moving going is important and 211 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: we have full faith in our forwards that they're going 212 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: to start climking some marks and kicking some goals, so 213 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: we're looking forward to that this week. 214 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: All right, we'll bounce down for Derby. 215 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: Number fifty six is three twenty on Sunday, As you said, 216 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: a free home game, so expecting a sea of purple 217 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: to cheer you on. 218 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: Good luck.