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Speaker 2: Good morning, yeah, from the Police Search and Rescue section.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wonderful to have you in the studio. And then

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Speaker 1: morning is Sergeant Matt Unwan from the Dog Operations Unit,

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Speaker 1: and also Wedge. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are you? Yeah? Very well? Now. Is it possible

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Speaker 3: He's six and a half years old. He might have

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Speaker 1: There you go, well with fitness. Yeah, No, he looks

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Speaker 4: His glorious certainly not the same thing that he's tugged.

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Speaker 1: That's his toy for anybody out there listening. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dog Operations Unit.

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Speaker 4: We had three handlers out this morning along with Strike

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Speaker 3: Of a crime spree that happened overnight.

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Speaker 4: So we have three thirteen, sorry, four thirteen year olds

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it was a terrible night in

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Speaker 4: The crime spree started around nine point thirty last night

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Speaker 4: They are committing a number of burglaries and yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, I'm glad that you've been able to

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Speaker 1: How often would you say, and I know that it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So these Cyrex's form part of that. As I

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Speaker 1: We're just keen to get involved in this conversation. He's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, that particular case. Chris was actually the

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Speaker 3: So he's still doing that to this day several years later.

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Speaker 4: But the dogs, as well as searching and locating criminals,

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Speaker 1: So who can get involved in that?

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Speaker 4: The lady that that's leading that, Bronwin Mullins, has been

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Speaker 3: To introduce it.

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Speaker 4: And they've got three volunteers that are doing it now

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and having the community involved in that way, it

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Speaker 2: it was thirty plus plus. The different resources and assets,

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Speaker 2: particularly you mentioned before, Lara Penna Trail. You've got Larapenner

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Speaker 1: of the expanded sort of things that our Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: Police do as well. All the while, Wedges had an

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Speaker 1: absolute enough of us talking. He wants us to play,

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Speaker 1: he wants us.

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Speaker 3: To throw some things for him. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: He's ready to go. I'll tell you what if if

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Speaker 1: any kind of criminal behavior. Thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us this morning. Sergeant Chris Growther from the

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Speaker 1: Territory Police, and Sergeant Matt Unwan from the Dog Operations Unit.

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Speaker 3: And of course Wedge.

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Speaker 1: Always good to have you guys in the studio. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thank you,