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Speaker 1: Houred by the iHeartRadio app from ninety six AIRVM to

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Speaker 1: whereever you're listening today, This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the podcast, the One and Only wa

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Speaker 1: Legend Tim mentioned off the.

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Speaker 2: Back of a very entertaining story Ryan Daniels told us

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Speaker 2: yesterday we talked about musical baby names and.

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Speaker 1: Jenny Rosson joined us pro chat about the Christmas sand

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Speaker 3: Key see folks at Merriam Webster.

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Speaker 2: The Dictionary people have a section on their website called

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Speaker 2: Time Traveler. It's a bit of fun. You can see

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Speaker 2: what words were first recorded that year. So the words

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Speaker 2: that were first listed in the Dictionary the year you

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Speaker 2: were born.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fascinating to see the lists.

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Speaker 2: So your year nineteen sixty five, nineteen sixty five, and

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Speaker 2: it came with the invention of words grunge, yeah, hippie, yeah,

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Speaker 2: jet lag, midlife crisis, dork yeah, funny.

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Speaker 3: That biohazard and are you?

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Speaker 2: They were all locerted for the first time in the

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Speaker 2: Dictionary in the year you were born. Mine started sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: We had aerobics for the first time that year. Audio cassette, dirt,

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Speaker 2: bag biky, which is interesting because he is one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite words. Great words shaboo, shaboo and sicky. I

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Speaker 2: love the all first time in the dictionary that year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the new generation like our team, Well.

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Speaker 2: Susie Producy Susie as born in nineteen eighty seven, beer goggles,

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Speaker 2: We're included in the dictionary for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Potty mouthed, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Ironic, that's funny, check no cross trainer, cross trainers had

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Speaker 2: generation Young Nick Yes, Young Nick nineteen ninety one, the

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Speaker 2: baby of the team, b dsm Oh, Grannie Panties, cyber sex,

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Speaker 2: hoo Chi, sim Card and mart Drug Interesting mixtape was

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Speaker 1: It just didn't have a It was just a table nap.

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Speaker 2: Didn't make it into the Dictionary until nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Well there you go, so there you love the list.

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Speaker 1: It might be something you could explore and share with you.

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Speaker 3: Fed it at the Merriam Webster site. A couple of

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Speaker 1: Dotor bomb grums came out. I thought it was nineteen

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Speaker 2: Former Tonight Show host Jay Leno has suffered severe burns

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Speaker 2: to his face after one of his cars exploded into flames.

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Speaker 3: You know he collects cars.

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Speaker 2: Ins that it had happened on the weekend at a

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Speaker 2: garage in Los Angeles where Leno stores his classic car collection.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, it looks like Margot Robbie's female Pirates of the

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Speaker 2: Caribbean movie has sunk. See the franchise was meant to

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Speaker 2: set sail once again, but Robbie has confirmed Disney's pumped

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Speaker 2: was also an actor. He played Victor Currie Arkison Days

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Speaker 2: of Our Lives for decades and.

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Speaker 2: And Rod Stewart is a man of his principles, it seems.

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Speaker 2: Turning down a one million dollar gig in Qatar last

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Speaker 2: year for the World Cup, he says it wasn't right

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Speaker 2: Guitar to be this year's World Cup Ambassadore.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Rod sticking to his guns? Eh?

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Speaker 4: No more Lisa, More podcasts soon.

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Speaker 2: Ninety six Upright Season two Premiere's eight thirty to Night

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Speaker 2: on Foxtowel. All episodes will be available to watch on

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Speaker 2: demand on Foxtel and joining us now the star the

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Speaker 2: creator Tim Minchin, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Tim, How you're doing all right? How are you traveling?

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Speaker 2: The first season was so good. Season two, Sea's Lucky

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Speaker 1: Quite posh house. But we very quickly realize.

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Speaker 5: He's not particularly coping very well. And into that, Meg

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Speaker 1: We find out more about Lucky's past as well, which

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Speaker 3: If you haven't seen season one, nothing's going to get

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Speaker 2: Like he left Perth after that terrible thing he did

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Speaker 3: That's what happens since the first time, Proud.

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Speaker 5: Proud, I'm furious, little little you know her.

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Speaker 5: Season two, it's much more Megs story driving it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, just me but you have Mehurst, I buried

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Speaker 5: The Australian Story. Yeah, I did, Actually I did, because

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Speaker 3: It was cast, it was everything.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to see why you've shaved off the beard

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, pirate so weird. I'm having a bit

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Speaker 2: Our question is about music influenced baby names. Now this

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Speaker 4: So Steely right, three years ago, he's doing his uncle's

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Speaker 3: Steely's sister is called Asia.

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Speaker 2: I have Ziggy Star Dust my dog. Your dog named

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Speaker 1: Honest, there's a whole generation of Kylie' because Coylie and

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Speaker 2: clip where he's standing there with the cards just taking.

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00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the one for non musical types. At least

443
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 3: we can write with a you know, a black texture

444
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 3: on a piece of white up.

445
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: Definitely a lot of people. Good one. That's a nice one.

446
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: Going back to mister m and Bobby Dylan.

447
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 3: And Alexander Heights, good morning.

448
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 6: Hello, how are you?

449
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: They're good?

450
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 3: Got a music influence, Babyn, Yes.

451
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 6: My daughter Alana Alana Miles, Miles Miles or carriages okay, yeah,

452
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 6: big big fan.

453
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah she did. She did like

454
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: velvet for the game.

455
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah that's correct.

456
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good one. And it's a nice name.

457
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: That is a nice.

458
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mim, thank you Lisa and Pierre Awards.

459
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to go out on a limb and guess

460
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: it's you because it is because I am a big fan.

461
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 6: Sixteen seventeen.

462
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: Sing every word, not just a whole movie, that.

463
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 6: Whole entire movie.

464
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: I think I can say you're talking about sound of music.

465
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 3: And Lisa and I will not have a bad word

466
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,479
Speaker 3: against it.

467
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely not. I was never when to carry darted

468
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 6: years ago.

469
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 3: I know, I know. Have you been to where they

470
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,239
Speaker 3: made it?

471
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 6: I have, I've been to Oh my god, I've walked

472
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 6: along the fountain.

473
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: My god.

474
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 6: My mom has the original record.

475
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm hoping to get one day the original too.

476
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm hoping to find something that's my name on

477
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 6: it in Salzburg.

478
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: But sadly not have we said what it is we're

479
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: talking about.

480
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: If we have, we we mentioned that this is music

481
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: from Lisa, one of the kids, one.

482
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: Of the trap.

483
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

484
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 6: Everybody actually in Australia loves my name, which is quite unusual. Yeah,

485
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 6: it's small common in South Africa. Yeah, everybody. Every time

486
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 6: I say my name, people go, oh, that's such a

487
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 6: beautiful name.

488
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 5: It is.

489
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 3: Well, thank you Lisa.

490
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so long farewell or goodbye? How cool? Was that?

491
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: Very cool?

492
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: Not a rock and roll name, but one of the

493
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: most famous musicals ever.

494
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: Scotty in forest Field? Hello, Hello, how are you good?

495
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: What's your music influence? Baby name?

496
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 5: My little girl's name is Bonnie and my surname is Scott,

497
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 5: named after the great name.

498
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Ron Scott Ronald what the straight poet and what I mean?

499
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: Yea a favorite album? Seven of them, seven of them.

500
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: I really like the name Bunnie. I think that's such

501
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: a cute name.

502
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great and we've got his heritage to so

503
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: there you go.

504
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: It's all well, we'll get the bag pop.

505
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: Thanks Scot, Jessica and Landsdowe. Last call, what's your music influence?

506
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: Baby name?

507
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 6: My daughter's name is Marley after Bob Marley. Yeah.

508
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: Are you a huge reggae fan or is it in

509
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: your family?

510
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 5: No?

511
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 6: So we are huge reggae fans.

512
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: My husband actually has a.

513
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: Huge Bob Marley portrait on his forearm of Bob Marley. Really, yeah,

514
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 6: he am.

515
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: He is.

516
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 6: John Pinder actually tattooed for him.

517
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: A small world, Isn't it funny? We've just been officially

518
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: pursed in a regular way. All right, that's great.

519
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: The Christmas Sand Sculpture Village is on the Elizabeth Key

520
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: from this Friday. You might have seen a bit of

521
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: sound about this is what's going on? It's so little.

522
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 2: This on from this Friday until January the second is

523
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: part of the Christmas Lights Trail and Jenny Rosen is

524
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: the artist behind it all and she's joining us now.

525
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 6: Hello, gooday, how are you going good?

526
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 3: Now?

527
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: Your history with sand sculpting started, just like so many

528
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: of us, with making sand castles on Cottslogh Beach.

529
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 6: I know that's so funny to think back to that,

530
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 6: But there I was in Perth, just making these sand castles,

531
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 6: trying to make them better and better. Yeah, and then

532
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 6: I sort of ended up cooking up with finding out

533
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 6: about sand sculpture, meeting international sand sculptors, and you know,

534
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 6: keep making sand castles that are just better and.

535
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: Better, all right, And it is incredible art, isn't it.

536
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: We can't do anything but admire those people who do

537
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: it so well. But what about what we expected to

538
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: see there at Elizabeth Key What kind of sculptors?

539
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 6: Look? You know what happened to me is I left

540
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 6: Perth actually, and I ended up opening a business in Dubai,

541
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 6: you know, after traveling all through Europe and America because

542
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 6: large scale sand sculptures are just really never made here.

543
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 6: So what happened when they had that CBD redevelopment, You know,

544
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 6: the thinkers make everyone come into the city. I grabbed

545
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 6: one of those grants, so we are making a giant

546
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 6: Nativity scene on one side, and it's going to be

547
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 6: carved like the old masters. And I've got this Italian

548
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 6: dudes come along. They do it every year in Italy,

549
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 6: and this Russian dude who did it in the Vatican

550
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago, and so they are the

551
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 6: top sand sculptures for that. And then on the other side,

552
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 6: I've got my American mate and my Korean mate and

553
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 6: we're going to do a kind of I call it

554
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 6: like American kitch. You know, it's like what we're kind

555
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 6: of sold that whole. You know, sand to clause and

556
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 6: snowmen and snow on buildings. You know that that kind

557
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 6: of style of Christmas celebration.

558
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: Did you just say sand to claw sandl.

559
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: And I love that. Dudes and mates, you've mentioned that

560
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: from across the world bringing their their talents to Perr

561
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: that is pretty amazing.

562
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 6: But not only them too, because I've got my friend

563
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 6: Stevie who's in Byron Bay, and we all know what

564
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 6: happened to those guys. They all just got washed out

565
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 6: and so he lost everything once, then he lost everything twice.

566
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 6: But not only that, he's he's like an old fashioned

567
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: sand sculptor, so he just walks down to the beach

568
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: and does beach castles. They're kind of the hippie style

569
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 6: and I love getting them on international jobs with me

570
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: because he's got such a cool personality, you know. And

571
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 6: so anyway, when I realized that even his office has

572
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 6: been washed away, I've got him to come, well his office, no,

573
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 6: Byron Bob, I'm got him to come. And we're set

574
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 6: up like I've got beat sand. We've got a workshop

575
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 6: area and every night from the eighteenth to the second

576
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 6: of December, he's going to make a new beach hippie castle.

577
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 6: You're going to see. And why I called it a

578
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 6: village is you've got that Renaissance old master's carving. You've

579
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 6: got the groovy kind of celebration, you know, a holiday's

580
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 6: American kind of movie carving. Then you've got the hippie

581
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 6: Australian organic and we've also got four little tabletops around.

582
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 6: So it's like for anybody that doesn't know where the

583
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 6: international scene has gone on sand sculpting, they can find

584
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 6: out by coming down to Elizabeth Keys.

585
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Tell me about Jenny, tell me about the sand.

586
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about how Enbyron bay Mate's going

587
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: to do beach sand castles, But is there a particular

588
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: sand that.

589
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: Is used for the sculptures?

590
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: You know, in particular are you going to imagine you've

591
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: got to have just the right sand consistency system?

592
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: Who I just want to write everything, you know. So

593
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 6: the thing for me is when I started building sand castles,

594
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 6: like twenty five thirty years ago, don't I say that? Could?

595
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 6: It makes me odd? There was only about five or

596
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: six people in the world that we're doing it. So

597
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 6: you'd fly in somewhere, you go to the quarries and

598
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: you kind of hold the sand and you go like

599
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 6: is this going band? You know, like every sand is different,

600
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 6: so it is a bit of a challenge. So for

601
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: this particular job in Elizabeth Keys, I've actually got some

602
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 6: sand from Boddington. I got the sand from Bodington because yeah,

603
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: well I did a job down there. They had this

604
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 6: mustard thing and I did a sand castle for them,

605
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 6: and I remember when I was doing I was going, God,

606
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 6: this is really good. And so then I had to

607
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 6: ring up the farmer who had it, Miss Paddocks, and

608
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 6: then I ended up driving it up. So the sand

609
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 6: castles when the sand castle having its real performance art

610
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 6: because it's whatever sand, you got whatever weather that you

611
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 6: happen to get, like, you know, last week it was

612
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: really windy and it's raining and awful. You know, we're

613
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 6: hoping that this week will be sunny. And then also

614
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 6: the team that you've got and how well everyone gets on,

615
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 6: so it's all like it's there of like sailing. You know,

616
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 6: you're going to get a different result on the day

617
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 6: every day, depending where all the different elements are.

618
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: I will tell me this, Jenny, Why no. I was

619
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: just going to ask if on January second, when it's

620
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: all over, do you just jump up and down on

621
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: them like.

622
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: We do at the beach.

623
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: You know.

624
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: Normally I like to leave and get and get the

625
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 6: client take it out because I just don't I don't

626
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 6: like to be here. But this one I am taking out.

627
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 6: So yeah, look, I mean that's the reality of it

628
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 6: comes in the back of a truck. Was four truck

629
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 6: loads for twenty fives and it then they drop them

630
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 6: and then and then out comes the massine and puts

631
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 6: it all black. Well, oh, I've got the videos on

632
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 6: the website. Oh yeah, and then it comes it leaves

633
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: the same way it came in in the back of

634
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 6: the truck.

635
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know.

636
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 6: When people ask us about that and they say, oh,

637
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: how do you feel, we always say, well, we call

638
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: it job security. Yeah, crazy to get back again later

639
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 6: to do it.

640
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Jenny, it's crazy logistics getting all that sand in and

641
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: out and then just praying the weather's going to be

642
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: all good so they're all the best with that.

643
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: Well.

644
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: The Christmas Sand Sculpture Village is on ad Elizabeth Key

645
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: from this Friday until January the second, is part of

646
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: the Christmas Lights Trail.

647
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: Fantastic work, Jenny, Thank you for chatting to us.

648
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 6: Good chat and also just want to quickly pop in there.

649
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: The workshops are in the evening, so you're coming to

650
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 6: the light. We've got Stevie making his thing at sunset

651
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 6: and then we'll be there for people who want to

652
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 6: try the sand and everything until the second of Decems

653
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 6: of from the eighteenth the second. That's two weeks just

654
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 6: to try out come and you know, learn from the

655
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 6: masters and give it a go yourself.

656
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: All right, all right, seven thirty nine pm.

657
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: I've been calling a sandgropers figure, so hopefully we can

658
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: get down there and see it.

659
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Thanks Jenny, all right, thanks Bloody six air FM. I'm

660
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: crazy in Lisa