1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The Will and Woody podcast that Bite sized. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: We are remembering Queen Elizabeth the II and right now 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: we are joined by the former Royal Gardener of Buckingham, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: Pallace Ben. Welcome to the show. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning Will, Good morning Wooded. How we 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: are doing. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Really really well? Thank you so much for joining us. 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: Mate. 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I'd love to know, is there a moment that sticks 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: out for you from your from your time when Queen 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Elizabeth was raining? 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Well, well, I think I mean the question is where 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: which way do you start? Really? She was an amazing person. 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite story is is one from when 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: she was young. She wanted to go drawing a street party. 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: She wasn't allowed and her parents said no, and so 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: so she decided to sneak out into the garden and 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: climb over the fence and join the party anyways, and 19 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: nobody really noticed. And I think, I wouldn't you do 20 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: that if you're trapped in so decided to such a 21 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: big building your plarents have said no you can't, You're 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: just like, oh, well, I'm going to go do it anyway. 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: So No, that's that's probably one that sticks out in 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: the memory. 25 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: That's a crazy story. I think I remember that. Actually, yeah, 26 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: she she a couple of years ago, but ye know 27 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: that that's brilliant. I also remember the story about the 28 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: time that she because she used to drive. She used 29 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: to be a driver during the war. She used to 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: trive ambulances and such, and I remember she had a 31 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: There was a there was a particular princes from the 32 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Middle East that came over, a lord from the Middle 33 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: East that came over, and she didn't like his policy 34 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: towards women, so she took him on a je She 35 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: took him on a jeep drive and quite deliberately through 36 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: like the most treacherous potholy drive. So this boat got 37 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: out of the car absolutely rattled. Really, she just. 38 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: You to appreciate the fact that she kind of, you know, 39 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: said right, actually, yes, I'm the queen, but actually I'm 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: going to I'm going to put my foot down, I'm 41 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: going to do things my ways. And there was always 42 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: that rebellious side. 43 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, bloody, Hey, Benny. This might sound like a random question, 44 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: but obviously when you're working on the gardens of Buckingham Palace, 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: I assume you're being fed by the Royal kitchen there 46 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: or the royal chefs. What was lunch break, like when 47 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: you're doing the garden and backing them palace Joe. 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: I always laughed because when I first went there, I 49 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: was training, but I came from from kind of different 50 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: backgrounds and I rocked up. And after the first couple 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: of weeks, we've been given things like a coffee of 52 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: duck in an orange jew for your lunch and crumble 53 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: and the boys used to complain, it's disgusting. There's only 54 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: there's any cream with the crumbumbull, and there's no there's 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: no ice cream with the crumble. So it was it 56 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: was awesome, and you know, everyone got really good food. 57 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: It was always three course lunches, three course dinners, and 58 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: some people had beer on the side as well, but 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: only if you slightly higher up. 60 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: Wow, we sounds delish now, Ben, I've also got another 61 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: question here. Apparently she grew banana trees in the palace. 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Is is that right? 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean, why not? I think yeah, there was, there's 64 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: there's loads of cut plants. If you're the queen, you 65 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: can grow whatever you want. I think it's been been 66 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: mentioned in the past of the way we got into 67 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: flowers to take a bit of a urination on them 68 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: and they grow like crazy when you do. And the flowers, 69 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: so not only were they all there, but they also 70 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: flowered and cropped as well. Didn't eat it, didn't have 71 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: the courage, but they cropped, so so. 72 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: Han she got she she asked you to urinate on 73 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: her banana trees for her. 74 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I think I think everyone kind of knew it was 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: the dune thing. It was. It was not really talked about, 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: but everyone kind of nodded their heads and knew that 77 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: is the way to get way forward. 78 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: It's extraordinary. But if she if she went for a 79 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: walk through her gardens, which obviously she would do when 80 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: she's walking the corgies and whatnot, was that just the 81 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: most nervous thing for you in your life to watch 82 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: her walking through the gardens, because you know, if she 83 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: if she hits an air and pothole or. 84 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Something in there and breaks her ankle, I mean that's 85 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: on you, as if there's. 86 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: A bit of a bump and she bashes her head 87 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: or or hell breaks out. No, I think you know what. 88 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Actually they are normal people. And I do remember a 89 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: couple of times just bumping into members the rule and 90 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: having absolutely no idea who they were. Have you see 91 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: them on TV in their suits and looking formal. But 92 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: when they get home, would you take the palace? Is 93 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: they kind of you go out in the jim jams 94 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and the pajamas and walk around and they just I 95 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: had no idea, and a couple of times that they 96 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: get myself into a bit of trouble with with people 97 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: going actually you need to be respectful because that was 98 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: somewhat important. 99 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: You're in the middle of pissing on a banana tree, 100 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: Queen Walls, Pat Ben, thanks so much for joining us. 101 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: It's really nice to get some texture on the person 102 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: and the house that was there, of people living, people 103 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: in the ben there the former Royal Gardener or Buckingham Palace. 104 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Now you're done with that, why not check out more 105 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: from Will and Woody on the Full Show podcast