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Speaker 1: Yesterday the Northern Territory Government made this announcement for the

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Speaker 1: summer plan in Alice Springs. They say fifty police officers

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Speaker 1: are going to be rostered on. You would have heard

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Speaker 1: the Police Minister Brent Potter talking about this a little

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Speaker 1: earlier this morning. He said that some of those officers

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Speaker 1: are going to be from the Central Australia Desert Region.

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Speaker 1: Found other officers from other areas of policing pulled into

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Speaker 1: Operation Drena, and he said there is enough officers in

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Speaker 1: Central Australia to stand up Operation Drena, additional officers who

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Speaker 1: will further supplement from graduating constable courses. But look to me,

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Speaker 1: it did sound like it was a bit of a redeployment,

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Speaker 1: I guess you'd say, and people not going on leave

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Speaker 1: over the Christmas break to make sure that they could

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Speaker 1: manage things. But joining me in the studio right now,

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Speaker 1: the Opposition or the CORP member for Barkley, Steve Edgington,

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, and good morning to all the.

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Speaker 1: Listeners and in the studio this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great to be Katie and good to be here

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Speaker 2: face to face and talking about the issues that matter.

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Speaker 2: Most in the Barklay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well this is the thing. As we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the situation yesterday with Central Australia and the issues in Alice,

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Speaker 1: we actually had people texting I'm assuming from Tenant Creek.

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Speaker 1: So Katie, don't forget about Tenant Creek. We've got issues

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Speaker 1: here as well.

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Speaker 2: It's a big issue, Coady. And as I always say,

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Speaker 2: even in Palm I call out so many times, what

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Speaker 2: about the Berkley and what about Tenant Creek? And here

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Speaker 2: we are. I looked at the media release coming out

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Speaker 2: yesterday about their announcement for a summer plan in Allie.

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Speaker 2: Not one mention of Tenant Creek, not one mention of

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Speaker 2: the Berkley. And this is really disappointing because my Electric

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Speaker 2: goes all the way down to Aileron the government's even

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Speaker 2: announcing they're running programs in communities. Yet my Electric there's

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Speaker 2: many communities that Alice Springs is their service center.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're being political with this?

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt. There's no doubt, Katie, this is political.

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Speaker 2: This is pork barreling when you look at all of

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Speaker 2: the communities that they're going to be running programs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there's some in the Namajerra Electric but realistically, north of

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Speaker 2: Alice Springs all of the communities that mentioned in the

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Speaker 2: Electorate of Guaja. Now, when I talk about my communities,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about places like Tea Tree Aileron our Ewan community. There,

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Speaker 2: I've got sixteen outstations up the sand Over Highway. I've

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Speaker 2: got the community of Oprah and Blood of which all

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Speaker 2: of those communities go into Alla Springs. Yet in this media,

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Speaker 2: at least they name twenty communities, not one of those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I hadn't thought of it in that way,

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Speaker 1: but it does seem surprising because you think to yourself,

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Speaker 1: we've got to make sure if you're looking after several

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Speaker 1: of these communities and trying to keep kids busy, well

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Speaker 1: what about the others, Particularly if you've then got people

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Speaker 1: going into a service town like Alice.

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Speaker 2: This raises many concerns for me, Katie. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: talking about a plan for summer, but I've looked at

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Speaker 2: this plan and that's completely flawed. To start with, there's

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Speaker 2: nothing new in there. This is back to basics policing.

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to communities, the amount of people

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Speaker 2: that go in there from different to communities around Central Australia.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, they've excluded communities from the barking. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is an indicator that they haven't put much thought

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Speaker 2: Here we are on the cusp of school holidays. We've

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Speaker 2: seen high crime rates all year, and all of a

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Speaker 2: already been suffering. There's victims out there that have been

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Speaker 1: How are things going in Tenant Creek at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty bad, Katie. And this is what frustrates

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Speaker 2: me when I hear these things about plans. Let's just

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Speaker 2: go through some of the statistics LIEU Tenant Creek and

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Speaker 2: I always go, you know, I don't mind talking about

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Speaker 2: the last twelve months, but Intenant Creek, for example, house

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Speaker 2: breakings just over the last twelve months are up forty percent,

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Speaker 2: related to assaults are up thirty percent. But let's have

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Speaker 2: a look at this. Over the last seven years under

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Speaker 2: what I'm getting at Intenant Creek for example. Look, I've

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking five break ins at the high school,

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Speaker 2: know that the kiosk at the swimming center has been

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Speaker 2: There's been over eighty five thousand dollars damage caused to

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Speaker 2: but recently there was two vehicles stolen from Catholic Care.

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Speaker 2: were armed with the grinders a hammer. Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: This is what's going on?

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Speaker 2: This was probably about two weeks ago. I put a

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Speaker 2: The day patrol vehicle from Jolacar has been knocked off.

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, what do you think the government needs

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Speaker 1: think they need a plan for the Barkly.

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Speaker 2: Region, Katie. I've been calling for a plan for forever.

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Speaker 2: I can remember when I was the mayor, I was

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Speaker 2: calling for a plan and I'm still waiting to see it.

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Speaker 2: I can still recall writing to the former Chief Minister,

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Speaker 2: Michael Gunner back in October November of twenty seventeen, calling

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Speaker 1: And I interviewed you at the time.

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Speaker 2: I ended up having a two year old sexually assaulted

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Speaker 2: within months. Now, somebody is going to be killed in

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Speaker 2: tackle these issues immediately. I've been calling for this for

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Speaker 2: Two one in March, one in April. The outcomes of

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Speaker 2: over to the Chief Minister's office in Tenant Creek. Here

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Speaker 2: we are, two and a half years later, there's still

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Speaker 2: no plan to tackle crime in Tenant Creek.

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Speaker 1: Steve, do you think that they're ignoring Tenant Creek because

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Speaker 1: they do not have they done? You know that you're

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure that it's me because this has

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Speaker 2: been going on for years Katie and even the previous

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Speaker 2: any headway. Tenant Creek and the Berkley has become the

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Speaker 2: forgotten part of the Northern Territory. It's high time the

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Speaker 2: thirteenth of April twenty nineteen. The most important initiative in

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Speaker 2: and review of existing services in Tenant creekways. It's never

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Speaker 2: been done. We wrote to the Prime Minister in February

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Speaker 2: this year to ask for a full order and review

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Speaker 2: and the Berkley zilch absolutely nothing. Now this is critical

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Speaker 2: because when you talk about services, all of these services,

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Speaker 2: do a job. Clearly, when you look at the crime

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Speaker 2: be a forardit and review.

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Speaker 1: Steve look, I think that call for a full audit

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Speaker 1: and review is fair enough and while they're at it,

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Speaker 1: not just Tenant Creek, but I think there still needs

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Speaker 1: to be that audit and review of some of the

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Speaker 1: services in Central Australia as well. If people are receiving funding,

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Speaker 1: to be some KPIs that are met and if they're

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Speaker 2: Well, there needs to be accountability, Katie. There needs to

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Speaker 2: be a full I always say a whole of government,

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Speaker 2: whole of community crime prevention plan or crime reduction plan

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Speaker 2: that needs to set out clear strategies to reduce crime

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Speaker 2: in Central Australia and the Barkley. But it needs to

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Speaker 2: have clear time frames and allocate tasks to all of

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Speaker 2: talking about the nonngatherment sector as well, all of those

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Speaker 2: funded providers. Everybody has a role when it comes to

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Speaker 2: are lit up. Every department, every agency has a role,

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Speaker 2: but there's no clear plan on what each other's responsibilities

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Speaker 2: are and there is certainly no accountability.

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Speaker 1: Now, Steve, before I let you go this morning, I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask. I know that yourself and Lea

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Speaker 1: Fanocciio tried to go and visit the Tenant Creek police station.

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Speaker 1: We asked Brent Potter, the Minister for Police, about this

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Speaker 1: this morning. He said, Katie, two days notice is not enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy enough to allow them to go and visit

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Speaker 1: he says he is giving. Is that fair enough?

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Speaker 2: No, Look, it's not fair enough at all. Tenant Creek

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Speaker 2: is a small place. I don't know whether he contacted

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Speaker 2: followed on from where the last police minister left off.

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Speaker 2: Because this is nothing new. Leah was refused entry in

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Speaker 2: to borrow Lulla by Kate Warden. So what we have

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Speaker 2: as a minister now that can't think for himself. He

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Speaker 2: done is taken the same line as the previous minister.

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Speaker 1: I mean to look at it from the other perspective, though,

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it is a bit much to

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Speaker 1: ask those police officers to drop what they're doing to

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Speaker 1: show politicians, whether it's you guys, or whether it's the

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Speaker 1: Labor Party through the police station.

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Speaker 2: No. Look, the importance of visiting police stations is to

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Speaker 2: hear full and frank advice around what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory. Look, the people that we represent expect

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Speaker 2: that we're going to have access to police stations, access

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Speaker 2: open and transparent about what's going on. They can't gag

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Speaker 2: police officers, they can't gag public servants. Everybody has a

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Speaker 2: right to say because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: we all need to be pushing in the same direction,

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Speaker 2: and that's to make a better place for territorians, make

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Speaker 2: territorians safer, have a stronger economy. Without access to all

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Speaker 2: of these different departments, we're really going backwards rather than forwards.

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Speaker 1: Well, Steve Edgington, the Member for Barkley. I appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks so much for joining us in

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Speaker 1: the studio.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Kati, and thanks for having me. Good

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Speaker 2: morning to all the listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.